TAO11: Regarding your claim that Oduduwa is Oranmiyan's father there is no unanimity among historians as to whether Oranmiyan is Oduduwa's son. Some other accounts note that Oranmiyan is his grandson, while others have speculated an even farther link between them. But one thing which all these views agree on is that Oranmiyan descended (immediately or distantly) from Oduduwa.
Is Oduduwa a Benin prince?
There are innumerable historical facts as well as logical deductions which establishes beyond a shadow of doubt that this Benin-centric claim that Oduduwa is a Benin prince is the farthest thing from truth. I will educate you about some here, and I kind of trust that you will accept facts even if you don't like what the facts say:
(1.) The idea that a certain prince Ekaladerhan of Igodomigodo (later known as Benin kingdom) had to leave Igodomigodo [and then change his name to Imadoduwa when he arrived at Uhe (Ife)] was first published in 1995 by Chief D. N. Orosanye, and later popularized by Dr. Nowamagbe Omoigui.
(2.) Some other later Benin writers have written that the name which this prince Ekaladerhan changed to when he arrived at Uhe (Ife) is not Imadoduwa but Izoduwa.
The desperation to make their Ekaladerhan to become one and the same person as our Oduduwa is gradually becoming very obvious considering the contradiction in the Benin's own account regarding the name he changed to. Is it Imadoduwa or Izoduwa or Oduduwa ?
(3.) However, the earliest and most prolific historian of Benin extraction, Chief Jacob U. Egharevba (whose closeness to the family of Oba Akenzua allowed him access to senior informants with vast knowledge of Benin's oral history) makes no mention of this Ekaladerhan and Oduduwa equation in any of his numerous publications since 1933.
(4.) The Ekaladerhan and Oduduwa equation is a modern twist by the above-named later Benin writers, because it is never found anywhere in the earliest indigenous publications on Benin's history by Egharevba. Moreover, the Ekaladerhan and Oduduwa equation does nat have any external corroboration, not even among Benin's closest neighbors.
The name Ekaladerhan itself (not even its equation with Oduduwa) exists in very little (if at all it exists) of the oral traditions of any of the Binis neighbors. In fact, there has been no relevant oral traditions among any of the circumjacent peoples that can recognize Ekaladerhan or identify him as Oduduwa.
(5.) It is logically impossible that Igodomigodo (or Benin) is the place Oduduwa came to Ile-Ife from, because he (Oduduwa) played a very significant role in the transformation of Ile-Ife civilization when he came to Ife, yet the Ife people many years later had to be the one to civilize the Benin people into the art and science of metal casting during the reign of Oba Oguala; as well as many other exposures the Ifes brought to the Binis (e.g. the introduction of horses according to the historian Paula Ben-Amos).
(6.) The burial site of the heads of many deceased Obas of Benin is a place known as "Orun Oba 'Do" in Ile-Ife. This fact is acknowledged even by Chief Jacob U. Egharevba in his writings. Also, R. E. Bradbury documents an 1888 instance of such practice which is famed to be the last occasion of this tradition.
If Oduduwa had been a Benin prince ruling over Ife, this tradition would have been practiced the other way round; that is, the monarchs of Ile-Ife would have had their final resting place in Benin (their supposed ancestral origin).
(7.) The official language in the court of the Oba of Benin up until 1934 was Yoruba (but there was no time Edo language was spoken anywhere in Ile-Ife). This can be corroborated by the fact that Omo N'Oba Eradiauwa wrote in his May 2004 publication: "The Benin-Ife Connection" that:
Eweka (who was born and raised in Benin) was born dumb, but talked for the very first time when "he exclaimed in his father's tongue 'OWOMIKA' " after defeating an opponent in a game.
How could Eweka have opened his mouth to speak Yoruba (the very first time he will speak) if Yoruba wasn't the language he had listened to all his life in the palace?
(8.) Each time an Oba is crowned in Benin, he has to make lease payment to the Ogiso dynasty for renewal of the lease of their palace to a foreign dynasty (i.e. the Oba dynasty). There would not have been any tradition as this if Oduduwa was originally from Benin.
There are many more proofs, but the above facts and logical deductions are sufficient proof that Oduduwa is certainly not from Igodomigodo (or Benin).
see epistle.. The fact remains oduduwa was a banished prince when he got to a minor Yoruba land, the first thing he spoke was Ile Ife( I run into wealth) and when the people ask him where he was from he said ogieiso(king of the sky)..
So they took him in, his prowess make him king and united all other Yoruba speaking tribe into a great empire.
The Bini wanted their king back and he sent one of his junior sons oramiyan, the son found out There was always trouble their and he called the place Ile ibenu.
The reason why heads of oba is buried in Ile Ife is to mark that the original king of Benin was the ruler, can you tell me other oba or kings head that is buried there?.
You've basically provided no reason, proof, or evidence to substantiate your claim that the Oba of Benin is greater; so it is as good as you didn't say anything at all. It's called empty claims that doesn't hold water.
However, listen to the confession of the present Oba of Benin during his two days visit to Osun State earlier this year, where he also paid homage at the "Orun Oba 'Do" shrine (where many Benin kings were buried) in Ile Ife.
He stated that Oranmiyan from Ife became the first Oba of Benin. This clearly means that the KINGDOM known today as BENIN was founded by an Ife man.
See video link below from time 13:22 to time 13:41 for evidence:
Furthermore, the European chroniclers who stayed in and around Benin for about 500 years (from generation to generation) documented based on Benin traditions that:
The Oba of Benin regards the Ooni of Ife as his "spiritual overlord".
Hence, according to Benin traditions documented by these Europeans (Portugese particularly), not only does the Oba of Benin consider the Ooni of Ife to be superior, he actually considers the Ooni to be a god for him.
These ancient accounts of the Europeans does actually indicate that, to compare any monarch in ancient times (in sub-Saharan Africa at least) with the Ooni is actually considered sacrilegious even according to Benin traditions.
Guess what! The word "Oghene" used for "God" today in some languages of Southern Nigeria is actually based on a Portugese rendering of the royal title of the monarchs of Ife "Oghne" (from: "Ooni" ).
This is not to say that I consider any Ooni of Ife to be God almighty, no. It is only to indicate the high reverence that the Ooni's throne is accorded by other monarchs in this region of the world in ancient times.
This information can be found in the account of these Europeans (most notably the 15th century Portugese seafarer Joao Afonso de Aveiro) documenting the Benin traditions
and who was oramiyan father? Isn't he oduduwa? A Benin crown prince banished?
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Culture › Re: Is The Oba Of Benin Actually Greater Than Yoruba Kings? by Donmedrac: 5:22pm On Nov 12, 2018
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