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They are so shamelezz, how many solution did Tinubu proffer to

1. Obasanjo
2. jonathan
3. Buhari

at one point in time, Tinubu have criticized all these leaders ....what solution did he proffer to Jonathan on fuel subsidy what did he turn around to do now

what is pain Tinubu supporters is that Peter Obi did not give dem something to pounce on

It is not as if they want Peter obi solution, what they want is hear it n give 1million reasons he is wrong, and rubbish

all the solution analyst give every day on Tv ..which one Tinubu don take

They think we are kids, Tinubu look like person wey dey listen or take advice

sycophancy pro max, So we have gotten to the point were sycophant now want to force " On your mandate " on God 🤣

Did Peter obi or seyi makinde prophesy Tinubu won't reach 2031 ... Abi weytin be this eye service Prayer now

[quote author=CharlesCNG post=139753974]

My brother, your problem is that you have mistaken criticism of methods for indifference to victims

Omg! You are full of surprises, So now your problem they didnt match your template for a protest, therefore the protest is ingenuine.

If you can't show me what they did in the protest that depict politic endorsement or violence the smeared the protest Bro you objection is invalid.

How did we protest in ojota for chibok gurlz, how did we protest in lekki toll gate and what exactly makes this one unaccepted, Oga you are angry that seyi makinde connected with the youths, thats not even the 1st time.
let your daddy Tinubu learn Emotional intelligence with that fake pastor wife tew

Nobody is asking anyone not to feel emotion. We are talking about kidnapped children for goodness' sake. Only a monster would not be moved.

But emotion is not exempt from scrutiny.

If you are not political, why does it bother you, did you see the way Davido wear bring them hope on world cup ... and Tinubu zombies are saying he is bad marketing us internationally .. I can't just fathom you Tinubu supporters/sycophants Does america not have embassy here you think they are blind, have trump not always issued statement on Nigeria, are we not even suppose to be calling for foreign support, are we at the top of the crisis

My question is much simpler: must every tragedy become a stage for influencers, content creators and politicians seeking relevance?

If Govt are pro active and do the needful on time, will influencers even have something to feed on, think man
When we have a Govt that won't sit up unless the people hit them up ... Why do you see us as the problem, atleast be sincere to admit you are Tinubu loyalist you stink of it, you reason n talk like them

You are so bothered with people that protest, Buh nothing depict you are worried with the incompetence always coming from the Govt




You say you are struggling to understand my point. That is because you are arguing against things I never said.

I said children should be the centre of the story, not VDM.

If people like you feel too big to step out and someone like VDM decides to use his influence to spearhead a protest how is he centre of the story Did you not see. Placard and hear there demands, Someone as to lead nd coordinate to avoid chaos
Like i said before, nothing wey this protest wan give VDM wey he never get ... He haa a reputation thats why he can command followership if e easy try work ojota for 2hrs under hot sun, c'mon

said families need results, not reels.

If you are the father of any victim, will you be against VDM protest ! Will your concern be VDM is getting likes & shares.
I can't just make sense of your diss with VDM, i am reading you n i am like is this guy even serious ..Davido own nko another Tinubu supporter discredit it he is tarnishing the country, A country bandit killed a general on live video 😄

I said a rescue operation involving children used as human shields requires wisdom, not social media theatrics.

Gud ! So how does the recent protest jeopardise the rescue mission. I want to know
If you were being objective, You should know the reactions nd active response of SW to the incoming Bandit crisis is a leverage to Put Govt on alert here, we won't accept bandits as our prodigal sons don't bring that nunsense here

And I find it ironic that in your entire essay, you have spent more time defending VDM than discussing the children themselves.

I don't have to defend the children, Someone that has influence is doing it nd you are trying to shoot him down, my primary target is You .. Cos in our team work if i tackle you out VDM will go unhindered.
The children is our collective goal, not individual push thats the logic,

Which, incidentally, was my point from the beginning.

You are so full of insincerity, 1st you questioned our " emotional" i reminded you we are talkin about children here, human lives, attaching emotion is very valid, i mentioned the age of the children in forest then you turn around now saying i am all about VDM i didnt talk about the children

Disagreement is not insanity

VDM have contributed his SR, whether you accept it or not. IF you love this children more than theatrics please show workings, Uncle what have you done ?? How is your arguement here helping the children chances to get out, i don't see you rant at the incompetence the govt , i don't see you call out the govt

Your arguement is strangely funny, smh

CharlesCNG:
What strikes me most about your response is that you have carefully avoided addressing the substance of my argument.

Instead, you have given us stories about your lawyer friend, his wife shaking her head, my supposed sycophancy, and an emotional appeal to shame.

Interesting.

Tell me, how exactly do these anecdotes refute the point I made?

You say I "sound educated." Thank you. Education teaches one to attack arguments, not personalities.

The irony is that while accusing me of emotional blindness, your entire response is built on emotion, ridicule and second-hand stories.

You ask why I reduce myself so low.

I ask: why reduce debate to gossip?

You are free to disagree with me. But disagreement is not evidence of sycophancy. If supporting a position with arguments is sycophancy, then opposing it with insults is hardly intellectualism.

Perhaps your lawyer friend deserves sympathy.

But I prefer arguments to anecdotes and facts to feelings.

After all, a man who cannot answer a point often settles for attacking the person making it.

That may impress a crowd. It does not win a debate.

Bro ! You can't gaslight me with "its All emotion" ... We are talking about children here we are talking 2yrs, under age kids living & sleeping in an open forest .. The imagination alone triggers " Emotion" except you are a beeast

When you raised point to discredit the agitation and protest by saying people are doing theatre/content, we suppose question your mental state

i am struggling to see any valid point you raise to debate you on,
OYO is not chibok , thats an empirical fact,
you feel the protest is " content/theatrics becos it all over the internet or becos the Governor stood in the midst of protesters unarmed to address their worries and reassure them

Which one are you angry about exactly !

Was Endsars also content to you, we posted online, and in ibadan then Seyi makinde also came out to show solidarity with the youths on the street ... So nothing you see now that we have not seen before both on Seyi and VDM side

Why you think it is for content creation is what i can't fathom, how did we do chibok gurlz protest in ojota nd how this one take look political or fake

I am struggling to make sense of your accusations, its not just adding up

CharlesCNG:

VDM has every right to speak, protest and demand action. [b]But when grief becomes content and tragedy becomes stagecraft, we must ask hard questions.

It mindboggling when an average citizens is reasoning like this, lets take d question one by one

Is the goal rescue, or relevance?

What relevance can possibly come out of this to (a) Seyi makinde or (b) that they don't have already.
What possible gain can Seyi makinde get from a protest in his state, Politically ?

a man that can't secure OYo want to promise Nigeria security in a debate ? who buys that

Is the aim pressure, or performance?

This one does even make sense, You apc zombies always shout hold the governors accountable ... Why is this not looking like holding Seyi accountable to apc zombies, critical questions were asked, what are you doing ? Why cant we plan for collateral damages n get rid of the animals once n for All

Because abducted children are not campaign material.

how can someone use children in captive to campaign he is better, when feasibility of rescue agencies are in the hands of opposed, is that not own goal if Tinubu rescue them. Will apc not take the glory as they now boast, kidnappes school children we always get them back ...who is campaigning ??

Makinde too must be careful. Saying “Oyo is not Chibok” may sound bold, but families do not need slogans. They need results, coordination, intelligence, rescue and communication.

Careful about what, OYo is not chibok, in yoruba we praise Oyo kin se bii baba ení kan,
Since the incident, the oyo govt have being engaging the public, they've maintain communication and restore assurances, go to oyo today the security are on red alert ! Travel round
But as Seyi rightfully said the bucks stil falls on the peesident table ..cos he Tinubu decides for security agencies method of rescue, Seyi can only be useful in " ransom"

Not activists.

Not politicians.

Not media influencers.

The facts are painful: armed men attacked schools in Oriire LGA on May 15, and reports say dozens of pupils, students and teachers were abducted. ICIR reported 46 victims; Vanguard reported Makinde’s vow that Oyo would not become Chibok.

So let us be the clear.

Hold government accountable.

Demand urgent rescue.

Question security failures.

But stop converting abducted children into political currency.

Don't just insinuate, show us how this particular incident have elevate seyi where he can't call shots

In borno, recently over 300 victims rescued did any glory go to the Governors, can you read what military & FG release as statement out

Nigeria needs sober action, not emotional choreography.

🤣 Big shame, you sound educated buh look what sycophancy as reduced you to, protest from military HQ, across states to Governor office is emotional choreography

I have a friend he is a lawyer, Apc card carrying member, in the desperation to always defend Tinubu all time, even his wife na look at him n shake head

Graduated with 2'1 in law, buh when is defending Tinubu i feel like crying for him ...why reduce yourself so low mentally

fernandez1:
Hmm hopefully oo.....the thing is now looking like a political gig

There are many kidnap incidents , You can focus on the one that look like Academic gig or entertainment gig

no shame, they we sha see something to say

Is that not pocohantas village people, and she will feigning educated here you will think oxford uni. dey Abia

OMG ! 🤣 thank god i graduate o, see reasoning, are you a joke

Very lame example how is "come late" or fail to come to work" interchangeable

OR is used where you are giving options one must be picked, among atternates, A abi B you can't abstain from both options.

As for your wrong instance,the office rule don't need any conjunction, both rules stand independent
I. Any staff that fails to cum to work wil recieve query
2. Any staff that come late will recieve query

Conjunctions or disjunctions are immaterial here, 0lodo

I don't think i have to address other things you said, cos i see 1st you must understand how " OR" is used thats your problem

Babangidapikin:
Na wa oh in as much as I don't support terrorism financing or aiding , what if he acted out of ignorance or he was under threat... except you prove beyond reasonable doubts that he was a co conspirator, Nigeria Law should be calming down for the struggling man .

even if he acted knowing why should he get 20yrs sentence, and boko haram that killed & terrorizing the country enjoy free pardon and reintegration scheme by govt

Sey we can now see Tinubu and Judiciary combo are very mard people ... You can't make sense of anything that happen under this uselezz govt

kpankpangolo:
You sure she was mentally okay? I know Africans believe chaining a mentally ill person is a temporary solution. If the symptoms don’t go, at least the person will remain hidden to avoid disgracing his/her lineage.

C'mon stop these nunsense talk, dont you people no when to be serious, everything na cruise

If your daughter or son has mental issue, you will lock dem up in one room for years that is the Treatment abi

Which nunsense africa believe in chain, even if you handcuff the mental patient it is just to take dem to where they get treatment nd proper care

please only people with sense we need on NL,

quote author=immaculatesense post=139731912]
What this means is that:

1. A political party cannot contest for the next Presidential election if he fails to win 25% in at least one state of the federation. It may contest for other elections but the presidential election.

Professor Amupitan calm down ...thats not what the law says ... Its ALL option .. If you can meet All fine Buh @least meet one ...this law are not knew, Nigeria did not start under Tinubu so dont insult our intelligence & experiences

2. A political party cannot contest a governorship election if he failed to win at least 25% in at least one local government of that state.

Na you write that law, not in our constitution.

The summary of this shows us that some political parties may be qualified to contest house of representatives elections but may not be allowed to contest for Presidential election or governorship elections in some states where it failed to meet the minimum requirements.

I must ask how did you come up with these wack reasoning, lemme guess you love Tinubu.
Ok backup what you just said with a reference since 2017 the law was enacted, Sowore party [AAC] never met any of this requirement nd til date he as not being deregistered.

Tell me why ACC qualify and ADC did not 🤣 Tinubu is really biting more

QUESTIONS TO ANSWER:

1. Can Justice Lifu disregard the stay of proceedings as instructed by Appeal Court (a higher court)?

yes, becos the appeal judgement explicitly outlined the case file before justice lifu nd gave a ruling

2. Should Justice Life have asked INEC to remove ADC and other parties involved from participating in SPECIFIC elections rather than outrightly deregistering them across the board.

by rank of appellate court, what justice lifu should have done is stall nd let the appeal court decide since it the order was "stay" , later judgement wil tell if FHC stil have decision to make or not

I will give a reference, in case of Bala Gombe n ADC, the appeal court re introduce FHC to decide, go back to FHC court, if the order was " maintain statuo quo" till appeal court decide, FHC position stays on " judi'o'pause"

The appeal court was directed explicitly on the file before justice lifu pre - hearing ..no excuse .. These is contempt

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nairalanda1:
Okay, I didn't expect you to agreement with me

I guess you support the usual borrowing to fund the budget then. It's your opinion, no disrespect. The problem is, it will worsen the debt and lead to the probelms you fear

And as I said, we should fight corruptioon at the same time, before you start.

Thanks. and good evening.

Where is these coming from, if not that you just like being mischievous

Have you seen any sane Nigerian support Tinubu reckless Borrowing ..no be apc urchins, sycophants and politicians they defend Tinubu borrowing

The things we borrowing for, in the next 10years have no ROI to contribute ...sey you see Tinubu & his team are very sick

[quote author=nairalanda1 post=139733402]

To subsidise fuel to N197, the government would need to take half of the money in the budget to pay for the subsidy.

you reponse to me base on what i wrote, i didnt ask for subsidy, i said Govt should the needful, build a refinery & maximize crude production .... Is that feasible 100

Probably more, because cost of production and maintenance has no respect for whatever price government sets.

Cost of production is subjective to inner factor, than external factor, what to i mean
for instance, if Nigeria owns it refinery & we can sufficient supply crude local ... Cost of production will be minimal and prices of fuel won't be dictated by int"l price, meaning pump price will be lower than what int'l benchmark dictate

And how would the government replace the money ? More loans. Or salaries, wages, and pensions will not get paid for most people.

your questions are highly irrelevant, solutions i proffer have nothing to do with " subsidy"

Also, stop all this oil rich nation things. We produce 1.3 million barrels for over 230 million people. If we had only ten million people, it would make a lot of sense to sell fuel even at N40 because money dey boku...but we are not an oil rich naiton because our oil revenue

you & who is WE, unde GEJ we recorded 2m barrels, if we are doing less today it only means the Govt & minister of petroleum are highly incompetent.

The question is do we have capacity to maximize above 1.3m or not ??

I hate this excuse of we are 230m, indian & chain are over 1 billion check there ratings. Qhich oil indian get to there population infact they rank top oil consumers in the word

1 billion to 230m Nigerians, nd you think you have excuse ..

, even if there was no stealing and waste, is still not enough, and if ya think it is, na magical thinking you dey do

Ogbeni mechonu jare ! No revenue is ever enough thats why we always clamour we " diversify" Nigeria is blessed with other resources buh govt is fixated crude .. If we dont have enough money it is still the fault of those at elms of affair, t

If we want to be rich, we should use our raw materials to make manufactured goods for export.

What is the govt you can die for, doing that depict we are on state of productivity emergency

Thats how oil rich nations like the USA and Norway actually became rich. If oil runs out tomorrow, dem go still stand, unlike Saudi that is oil rich and makes nothing of global value.

You guyz have being on oil wil dry for how many decades now, even though i believe in diversified economy, i also strongly believe in using your highiest potential to get what you need.

Dogalmighty17:
This has been APC's plan all along. What they didn't factor in what the Obi will decamp to another party. Watch as the agents of the APC will look for the slightest reason to table a similar matter before the courts to get INEC to deregister the party.

To further show you conclusive proof that the APC planned this all along, in the next few weeks, Jonathan will fully come out and assume candidacy under the PDP. Mind you, the party has already declared him their candidate but he hasn't accepted or claims not to have.

you get, even if they know Peter Obi can defect, they felt he can't go to LP, sdp , accord party are appendages of Tinubu apc, Obi can't go to Sowore party

What Tinubu camp did not factor is NDC emerging nd na court even save that one

If Obi had not left ADC, Tinubu would have Captured All of them with dimensional court cases lined up

yarimo:
Bolaji Abdullahi You must be also arrested as well for appointing yourself as spoke man in a party you were never a member

Mechonu ! Did Apc appoint you abi won gbe ise fun é .. Everyday of your life you wake up to defend APC crap ... uncle Show your appointment letter

favor914:
Forever wailing helplessly from pillar to post.

you can call him wailing now, shebi your fathers in govt were once on the road crying like bush babies.

Do you know how many years Tinubu wailed for, we will see his end apc will fall they will hear in heaven shebi Tinubu lé gboju lé,

Cyberterror:
Unless he is saying the Appeal court restrained the FHC from delivering judgement, which is not legally possible, as a court cannot restrain another court, then Bolaji Abdullahi is talking nonsense.

ADC thought they were wiser than the honourable court which has now thrown them into the dustbin of history

What you just know quietly keep quiet, When a matter is before a higher appellate court of jurisduction, no court lower as locus standi to entertain & adjudicate on such matter

Common sense should tell you, the Appeal court as set date to decide on the matter .. the case can only ascend to supreme its an abberation for a FHC judgement to subjugate Appeal court pre-decision.

I find it disturbing that people like you exist, all because you love APC, Tinubu is your surrogate father ..i don't get it Nigeria didnt start under Tinubu naw

favor914:
Abdulahi go & arrest him, what or who are you waiting for?

For Abdulahi focus on the message ... Show us what he said is not true, unfortunate apc supporter

Read the appeal court judgement nd tell us it is not "contempt" of court.

The ADC secured a sit in the last last 2023 election. Whether the member defect 2yrs after don't count

The section 205 A works on post screening assessment after an election, you have to wait till 2027 before you can apply that section 205 again

Politicstoday:
With the US-Iran deal signed & the Strait of Hormuz reopening, global crude prices WILL fall. Dangote Refinery has no excuse — gantry price should drop to ≈₦900/litre.

Nigerians deserve pump prices of ₦950–₦1,050/litre. NOT ₦1,300+.

The Hormuz crisis inflated prices. The crisis is ending. The savings must flow to the people. 🇳🇬

#NigeriaFuelPrice #HormuzDeal #DangoteRefinery #PMS

That assertion of yours is not " Tenable" ... I say Nigerians deserve better as an oil producing nation.

on the bases of Reality or Feasibility .. If govt do what they are suppose to do, own a refinery + maximize crude production ... Nigerians we buy @ lesser price than you speculated

We are not short memories, before strait of hormuz crisis .. Nigerians were buying fuel at exorbitant prices, we jumped from 197 to #875 before us/iran war began ...thats not acceptable we are oil producing nation it should mean "something"

[quote author=nairalanda1 post=139715770]

Okay, I didn't expect you to agreement with me

This is not about agreeing, dis is about prescribing "cut off the head" becos of headache ... I am saying you & IMF are completely wrong postulating the way forward for Nigeria is incessant " Taxation"

You can tax a flourishing economy not a Mal nourish economic, thats why people don't see impact despite the increased revenue
What nourishes the economy to reflect impact is " maximize productivity & high GDP" ... Tax can never prosper a nation

I guess you support the usual borrowing to fund the budget then. It's your opinion, no disrespect. The problem is, it will worsen the debt and lead to the probelms you fear

bro don't speak for, infact many Nigerians and myself are against Tinubu excessive " Borrowing" ... the govt are just " Lazy headed" ... Since Tinubu became president what production have we scaled up .. Is it crude, is power, even gas we have not maximize & explores natural resources God given to us up to 60% nd we are crying low Revenue ... very funny

Govt just want quick easy money ..so we see loan, Tax, and levies as fast express ignoring the ripple effects n setbacks

And as I said, we should fight corruptioon at the same time, before you start.

I can be idealist but i am more of a realist, forget any fight to end corruption, lets face whats feasible ... we need to that seeing Our natural resources as a way Out, we need to start acting like we know we blessed with resources

As develop as Turkey is they among all there neibors dont have crude, and they don't even hide there pain they don't have crude, Buh look at Nigeria we get crude yet we are at the mercy of external forces ,..abeggi jare

[quote author=nairalanda1 post=139714830]

Tinubu should listen to the IMF and do it, and if he doesn't , whoever is taking over should listen to the IMF and do it, alongside fighting corruption

I know people will abuse me, and will call me names for my opinion, so let me drop some facts.

Our budget this year is: 68 trillion naira

Actual revenue available to fund this budget is : 33 trillion naira

Its of no use insulting since you know how Naive you sound, we are talking about Revenue isnt it laughable that IMF + TInubu + Nairalanda want to force us to believe our only option to generate Revenue is Tax & VAT increment whereas we have many resources yet we are a " Under producing Nation" .. Turkeye dont have the resources Nigeria has

The question to Nairalanda .. Have we explore 70% of our resources ? Why are not looking into maximizing utilization of resources and industralization

World fact as it No nation can Tax itself to prosperity, So why is IMF presenting Tax as an option to Growth & development

People like to abuse me on this site and call me agbadoe, but if it was Peter Obi, or Atiku in charge, based on what I know, I would give them the same advice. We all shout that we want government to stop borrowing, but when it comes to measures to stop borrowing, we suddenly become allergic to good advice

Stop being delusional, maybe you need to check yourself, you aint making sense .....You are so fixated on budget deficit, 4geting the main reason our budget deficit is widen is cos of excessive loan interest we must
The problem is not your salary, if you are obsessed with loan sharks, no amount wil be enough expect you join kidnappers. Solution is cut down on loan 1st, 2nd step throw a national agenda that facilitate " productivity drive" .. Very crucial

Look at our oil production, we are not meeting opec quota, thats is revenue loss
The last time we hit 2m per barrel was under GEJ .. meaning we are not exploring enough


Tinubu is a bad leader, and I am not voting for him next year, by the way.

Nigeria has had this deficit problem for decades.

omg ! You keep hammering on deficit, buh have you bother to check rate of budget implementation in the last 20yrs and most of allocated fund end up looted .... With all that " More revenue won't change a thing where their is no accountability & transparency

And the 68 trillion naira is not enough for a nation of 230 million people. You can abuse me, but we are too big for the budget. And that budget is the money available before stealing and looting happens.

No amount of water taps connected will ever fill a basket .. You can try it

Either we start listening to the IMF and fighting corruption, as well as improving taxation, or else, even if we vote Obi tomorrow, as i hope we all do, or Atiku tomorrow, or even Sowore, I guarantee that our debt would be 800 trillion naira in eight years time.

look around, All the nations that are to economical better, which one followed IMF playbook
Is it Turkeye, china, indian or Dubai that IMF made them who the are today. Check all the countries following IMF like stooge they have one thing in common, under developed
i will say it again Taxation is not road path to sustainable growth n developed, over 63millio Nigerians are below poverty line ... What exactly do you wan Tax except compound hardship nd the ripple effect is more SMEs will fold up

Taxing a low productivity economic, stretched with hyper inflation and high umemployment will only will amount to know impact, what drives economic is "industralization/productivity " nd we have not explored that option even up to 50%

I dont think there is any ideal period or duration, what is ideal is to 1st give yourself time to heal and be sure you are heal before going into another r/ship

you don't want problem buh you must also be able not to give problem to the next person

Hamzaay:
Rich get richer others get poorer

Its not fair to say that, The rich here is getting rich Before of relentless effort and risk taken

dangote sleep less more than we poor people, i am stil on bed, whereas Dangote is already out for a meeting

So don't just say the rich are getting richer, can you put in Dangote effort

I have always Knew Babajide is an APC loyalist

When i use to support apc, i convenient align with Babajide views on journalist hangout .. Unconscious

But late since i made a U-turn, it just dawn on me i can't even listen to him 5min i am already agitated

To me what changed, he is on a side in

seunmsg:
They are all APC members protesting over the recent party primaries in the state.

Its good to know @least these ones are not like you, they see bad they say it.

helinues:
When they are tired, they will return back home

When you pay attention to the likes of VDM and Geh Geh, the money part of the content creation have made them to stop making sense. What's the business of a relationship tutor with politics

I think its high time you find another lifepath, that you can even put VDM & Geh Geh in same bracket show you.a confuse human being

Talking of sense, what does a Town hall meeting in different from bulabalu... even mean you love that man

buh the one that is saying Govt must do the needful is the one that does make sense .. you need spiritual help