₦airaland Forum

nairalanda1:
Okay, I didn't expect you to agreement with me

I guess you support the usual borrowing to fund the budget then. It's your opinion, no disrespect. The problem is, it will worsen the debt and lead to the probelms you fear

And as I said, we should fight corruptioon at the same time, before you start.

Thanks. and good evening.

Where is these coming from, if not that you just like being mischievous

Have you seen any sane Nigerian support Tinubu reckless Borrowing ..no be apc urchins, sycophants and politicians they defend Tinubu borrowing

The things we borrowing for, in the next 10years have no ROI to contribute ...sey you see Tinubu & his team are very sick

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To subsidise fuel to N197, the government would need to take half of the money in the budget to pay for the subsidy.

you reponse to me base on what i wrote, i didnt ask for subsidy, i said Govt should the needful, build a refinery & maximize crude production .... Is that feasible 100

Probably more, because cost of production and maintenance has no respect for whatever price government sets.

Cost of production is subjective to inner factor, than external factor, what to i mean
for instance, if Nigeria owns it refinery & we can sufficient supply crude local ... Cost of production will be minimal and prices of fuel won't be dictated by int"l price, meaning pump price will be lower than what int'l benchmark dictate

And how would the government replace the money ? More loans. Or salaries, wages, and pensions will not get paid for most people.

your questions are highly irrelevant, solutions i proffer have nothing to do with " subsidy"

Also, stop all this oil rich nation things. We produce 1.3 million barrels for over 230 million people. If we had only ten million people, it would make a lot of sense to sell fuel even at N40 because money dey boku...but we are not an oil rich naiton because our oil revenue

you & who is WE, unde GEJ we recorded 2m barrels, if we are doing less today it only means the Govt & minister of petroleum are highly incompetent.

The question is do we have capacity to maximize above 1.3m or not ??

I hate this excuse of we are 230m, indian & chain are over 1 billion check there ratings. Qhich oil indian get to there population infact they rank top oil consumers in the word

1 billion to 230m Nigerians, nd you think you have excuse ..

, even if there was no stealing and waste, is still not enough, and if ya think it is, na magical thinking you dey do

Ogbeni mechonu jare ! No revenue is ever enough thats why we always clamour we " diversify" Nigeria is blessed with other resources buh govt is fixated crude .. If we dont have enough money it is still the fault of those at elms of affair, t

If we want to be rich, we should use our raw materials to make manufactured goods for export.

What is the govt you can die for, doing that depict we are on state of productivity emergency

Thats how oil rich nations like the USA and Norway actually became rich. If oil runs out tomorrow, dem go still stand, unlike Saudi that is oil rich and makes nothing of global value.

You guyz have being on oil wil dry for how many decades now, even though i believe in diversified economy, i also strongly believe in using your highiest potential to get what you need.

Dogalmighty17:
This has been APC's plan all along. What they didn't factor in what the Obi will decamp to another party. Watch as the agents of the APC will look for the slightest reason to table a similar matter before the courts to get INEC to deregister the party.

To further show you conclusive proof that the APC planned this all along, in the next few weeks, Jonathan will fully come out and assume candidacy under the PDP. Mind you, the party has already declared him their candidate but he hasn't accepted or claims not to have.

you get, even if they know Peter Obi can defect, they felt he can't go to LP, sdp , accord party are appendages of Tinubu apc, Obi can't go to Sowore party

What Tinubu camp did not factor is NDC emerging nd na court even save that one

If Obi had not left ADC, Tinubu would have Captured All of them with dimensional court cases lined up

yarimo:
Bolaji Abdullahi You must be also arrested as well for appointing yourself as spoke man in a party you were never a member

Mechonu ! Did Apc appoint you abi won gbe ise fun é .. Everyday of your life you wake up to defend APC crap ... uncle Show your appointment letter

favor914:
Forever wailing helplessly from pillar to post.

you can call him wailing now, shebi your fathers in govt were once on the road crying like bush babies.

Do you know how many years Tinubu wailed for, we will see his end apc will fall they will hear in heaven shebi Tinubu lé gboju lé,

Cyberterror:
Unless he is saying the Appeal court restrained the FHC from delivering judgement, which is not legally possible, as a court cannot restrain another court, then Bolaji Abdullahi is talking nonsense.

ADC thought they were wiser than the honourable court which has now thrown them into the dustbin of history

What you just know quietly keep quiet, When a matter is before a higher appellate court of jurisduction, no court lower as locus standi to entertain & adjudicate on such matter

Common sense should tell you, the Appeal court as set date to decide on the matter .. the case can only ascend to supreme its an abberation for a FHC judgement to subjugate Appeal court pre-decision.

I find it disturbing that people like you exist, all because you love APC, Tinubu is your surrogate father ..i don't get it Nigeria didnt start under Tinubu naw

favor914:
Abdulahi go & arrest him, what or who are you waiting for?

For Abdulahi focus on the message ... Show us what he said is not true, unfortunate apc supporter

Read the appeal court judgement nd tell us it is not "contempt" of court.

The ADC secured a sit in the last last 2023 election. Whether the member defect 2yrs after don't count

The section 205 A works on post screening assessment after an election, you have to wait till 2027 before you can apply that section 205 again

Politicstoday:
With the US-Iran deal signed & the Strait of Hormuz reopening, global crude prices WILL fall. Dangote Refinery has no excuse — gantry price should drop to ≈₦900/litre.

Nigerians deserve pump prices of ₦950–₦1,050/litre. NOT ₦1,300+.

The Hormuz crisis inflated prices. The crisis is ending. The savings must flow to the people. 🇳🇬

#NigeriaFuelPrice #HormuzDeal #DangoteRefinery #PMS

That assertion of yours is not " Tenable" ... I say Nigerians deserve better as an oil producing nation.

on the bases of Reality or Feasibility .. If govt do what they are suppose to do, own a refinery + maximize crude production ... Nigerians we buy @ lesser price than you speculated

We are not short memories, before strait of hormuz crisis .. Nigerians were buying fuel at exorbitant prices, we jumped from 197 to #875 before us/iran war began ...thats not acceptable we are oil producing nation it should mean "something"

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Okay, I didn't expect you to agreement with me

This is not about agreeing, dis is about prescribing "cut off the head" becos of headache ... I am saying you & IMF are completely wrong postulating the way forward for Nigeria is incessant " Taxation"

You can tax a flourishing economy not a Mal nourish economic, thats why people don't see impact despite the increased revenue
What nourishes the economy to reflect impact is " maximize productivity & high GDP" ... Tax can never prosper a nation

I guess you support the usual borrowing to fund the budget then. It's your opinion, no disrespect. The problem is, it will worsen the debt and lead to the probelms you fear

bro don't speak for, infact many Nigerians and myself are against Tinubu excessive " Borrowing" ... the govt are just " Lazy headed" ... Since Tinubu became president what production have we scaled up .. Is it crude, is power, even gas we have not maximize & explores natural resources God given to us up to 60% nd we are crying low Revenue ... very funny

Govt just want quick easy money ..so we see loan, Tax, and levies as fast express ignoring the ripple effects n setbacks

And as I said, we should fight corruptioon at the same time, before you start.

I can be idealist but i am more of a realist, forget any fight to end corruption, lets face whats feasible ... we need to that seeing Our natural resources as a way Out, we need to start acting like we know we blessed with resources

As develop as Turkey is they among all there neibors dont have crude, and they don't even hide there pain they don't have crude, Buh look at Nigeria we get crude yet we are at the mercy of external forces ,..abeggi jare

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Tinubu should listen to the IMF and do it, and if he doesn't , whoever is taking over should listen to the IMF and do it, alongside fighting corruption

I know people will abuse me, and will call me names for my opinion, so let me drop some facts.

Our budget this year is: 68 trillion naira

Actual revenue available to fund this budget is : 33 trillion naira

Its of no use insulting since you know how Naive you sound, we are talking about Revenue isnt it laughable that IMF + TInubu + Nairalanda want to force us to believe our only option to generate Revenue is Tax & VAT increment whereas we have many resources yet we are a " Under producing Nation" .. Turkeye dont have the resources Nigeria has

The question to Nairalanda .. Have we explore 70% of our resources ? Why are not looking into maximizing utilization of resources and industralization

World fact as it No nation can Tax itself to prosperity, So why is IMF presenting Tax as an option to Growth & development

People like to abuse me on this site and call me agbadoe, but if it was Peter Obi, or Atiku in charge, based on what I know, I would give them the same advice. We all shout that we want government to stop borrowing, but when it comes to measures to stop borrowing, we suddenly become allergic to good advice

Stop being delusional, maybe you need to check yourself, you aint making sense .....You are so fixated on budget deficit, 4geting the main reason our budget deficit is widen is cos of excessive loan interest we must
The problem is not your salary, if you are obsessed with loan sharks, no amount wil be enough expect you join kidnappers. Solution is cut down on loan 1st, 2nd step throw a national agenda that facilitate " productivity drive" .. Very crucial

Look at our oil production, we are not meeting opec quota, thats is revenue loss
The last time we hit 2m per barrel was under GEJ .. meaning we are not exploring enough


Tinubu is a bad leader, and I am not voting for him next year, by the way.

Nigeria has had this deficit problem for decades.

omg ! You keep hammering on deficit, buh have you bother to check rate of budget implementation in the last 20yrs and most of allocated fund end up looted .... With all that " More revenue won't change a thing where their is no accountability & transparency

And the 68 trillion naira is not enough for a nation of 230 million people. You can abuse me, but we are too big for the budget. And that budget is the money available before stealing and looting happens.

No amount of water taps connected will ever fill a basket .. You can try it

Either we start listening to the IMF and fighting corruption, as well as improving taxation, or else, even if we vote Obi tomorrow, as i hope we all do, or Atiku tomorrow, or even Sowore, I guarantee that our debt would be 800 trillion naira in eight years time.

look around, All the nations that are to economical better, which one followed IMF playbook
Is it Turkeye, china, indian or Dubai that IMF made them who the are today. Check all the countries following IMF like stooge they have one thing in common, under developed
i will say it again Taxation is not road path to sustainable growth n developed, over 63millio Nigerians are below poverty line ... What exactly do you wan Tax except compound hardship nd the ripple effect is more SMEs will fold up

Taxing a low productivity economic, stretched with hyper inflation and high umemployment will only will amount to know impact, what drives economic is "industralization/productivity " nd we have not explored that option even up to 50%

I dont think there is any ideal period or duration, what is ideal is to 1st give yourself time to heal and be sure you are heal before going into another r/ship

you don't want problem buh you must also be able not to give problem to the next person

Hamzaay:
Rich get richer others get poorer

Its not fair to say that, The rich here is getting rich Before of relentless effort and risk taken

dangote sleep less more than we poor people, i am stil on bed, whereas Dangote is already out for a meeting

So don't just say the rich are getting richer, can you put in Dangote effort

I have always Knew Babajide is an APC loyalist

When i use to support apc, i convenient align with Babajide views on journalist hangout .. Unconscious

But late since i made a U-turn, it just dawn on me i can't even listen to him 5min i am already agitated

To me what changed, he is on a side in

seunmsg:
They are all APC members protesting over the recent party primaries in the state.

Its good to know @least these ones are not like you, they see bad they say it.

helinues:
When they are tired, they will return back home

When you pay attention to the likes of VDM and Geh Geh, the money part of the content creation have made them to stop making sense. What's the business of a relationship tutor with politics

I think its high time you find another lifepath, that you can even put VDM & Geh Geh in same bracket show you.a confuse human being

Talking of sense, what does a Town hall meeting in different from bulabalu... even mean you love that man

buh the one that is saying Govt must do the needful is the one that does make sense .. you need spiritual help

prinsam30:
Exactly what I was saying na, make them bring that small boy wetin be him name sef

I think they just brought in the boy you are asking of abdullahi

prinsam30:
Our main problem for this first half na our forwards, they are not playing a team game at all, na this kind thing dey osimeh

Is it just the attack you are seeing, our defence nkor, akpan just dey leak on his side n they are focusing on that side

Eriokanmi:
This is worser than division 3 of the Brazilian national team. Glad we didn't go to the world cup

You probably dont know what you are saying ...

Look at what portugal fielded .. They are not our mate at ALL in rating, i am surprised We could even equalize that fast

Bro .. Man pass Man .. nigeria try base on 1st half so far

yarimo:
Did APC announced their forms is free ? Simple question you are still leaving the road to bush path. Did APC instruct chief priest to pay certain amount of money apart from nomination fee and also directed him to sign a document that he won't sue APC like they did to this NDC aspiran? Isn't that simple question?

Some question no need answer, what you hold on to as point are still "allegations" .. and the accused have threatened to sue

Pray Kenneth don't withdraw his statement, when they get to court then you might find answer

your questions are baseless cos they are still allegations

DomPerignon:
Lolz.

Why no obidient get nomination from Dickson supreme selection committee?

Why were all Obidients including Aisha denied even primaries?

You go explain tire.

Which one is why ?? Why ?? did Peter Obi force any of them to follow him to NDC

Do you know the agreement Peter obi n NDC have, do you think NDC dont have have there own people in mind

Anyone with sense would have notice by now that Peter Obi as distance himself from Aisha yusuf, kenneth nd other cloutchasers that using him to make fame & money, when you listen kenneth all you see is " Pained" they need peter obi, But Peter obi as seen them for who they are ..cloutchasers

explain weytin .. You guyz have tried everything to tarnish Peter obi as corrupt ko wole 🤪 try another mole

yarimo:
Did APC told chief priest to pay a certain amount apart from nomination form fee , and he must sign a document not to sue APC for that certain amount? You can now see who is leaving road to find bush path

The Fact according to Chief priest himself and what we all know is APC form is not Free

All that talk, they signed agreement is baseless and irrelevant, Court wont just throw them out, dem fit pay fine

Weyrey said he has Reciept, On the Fidelity app naa Peter obi recieve 10m, naa Obi get NDC

they want to ride on Peter obi name to contest, so when they win they decamp into apc n spend their money their.

Kenneth just put himself out as being stewpid, i can't even believe a lawyer we stake himself on the chat he posted ...smh

My

DomPerignon:
NDC don hammer.

They told you to sign a document agreeing to waive your right to sue the party and you foolishly agreed.

Well, the law does not recognize civil agreements between two parties if the intention of one of the parties is to commit an act of crime.

You can't drag a minor into your room and then demand she signs an agreement that she agreed or consented to be raped by you.

As long as she is a minor, she can't enter any agreement and secondly, civil agreements do not apply when the law is being broken or used as a means to absolve criminality.

Why una like to dey leave Road, dey find bush path ... ALL this allegation we are hearing is it New, is it only in NDC pay to buy form

Did chief priest not buy form in APC nd a consensus candidate was picked over him ... so why is it like party asking for payment naa Romance scam under NDC

Imagine someone bought presidential form of APC against Tinubu ... now that one tew will cry fowl

I Believe they ALL had choice, when you knew it was wrong to pay for NDC form .. Why did you guyz pay

Sowore party dey there, go there presidential form is free, buh you guyz think you are smart you want to ride on Peter obi influence in NDC enter house nd decamp to APC singing Tinubu on your mandate. A party like NDC where they wan see money to Run formidable opposition if they dont generate income

chopnaira:
Everywhere scatter. Those 10million naira pained a lot of people.

If e pain dem and they think its criminality, they have choice ...go to PDP or SDP or ADC where Ticket is free for All

Speaking Generally, how do they expect a newly formed party to function, organise events and campaign without Generating Money

For certain things, Requisite must be set just to limit applicant that why in university for instance, medicine you see high cut off mark ..

what is paramount is the Law position, Did NDC break any law ... we can now hold dem from there

all this ranting from kenneth is to what end, a man left ADC then suddenly you start attacking him, saying as his spokeperson you have all his crimes in 2023

Which crime Obi wan commit in 2023 .. e kill aspirants or he hacked inec portal or Peter obi is the one sponsoring Fulani herdsmen under Buhari ...very funny lots

FSBoperator:
Una sure say. Giringori no go drop his Presidential ambition .

If with the Level of insecurity & uproar from Nigerians against Tinubu ... Bola no drop his presidential re election

So naa obi go Drop ... because of hollywood actor, Wike say the most angry Nigerian 🤣

When you look at All this people throwin accusations & alledging about peter Obi ... They are people that even gain recognition bcoz of Peter Obi

Kenneth, Abure, Datti ... What is there public acceptance

seunmsg:
BREAKING: INEC has removed the names of Ahmed Yayari and Daniel Woyengikuro from its portal as PDP National Treasurer and National Financial Secretary, respectively, replacing both names with Odeyemi Mackson Oladiran and Eyim Donatus Henry as the new executives.

Ahmed and Daniel are part of the Makinde-backed Turaki faction while Odeyemi and Eyim are members of the FCT Minister Nyesom Wike's faction, which is also the recognised faction of the PDP.

INEC had earlier recognised the FCT Minister's faction by putting the names of Abdulrahman Mohammed as the National Chairman and Samuel Anyanwu as the National Secretary, but had left the names of Ahmed Yayari and Daniel as part of the executives, a situation which created confusion.

With the recent update on its portal, all executives of the PDP on INEC's portal are now aligned with FCT Minister Nyesom Wike.

Source

Posting INEC portal to me, thats No evidence .. our arguement is appeal court verdict.

What i want is the last Appeal court judgement that validated your Stand i.e anyamwu is recognised nd all they did is valid. Post the appeal court judgement transcript that upheld FHC judgement 🤣 ... So arisetv reuben abati twisted a court judgement on national Tv ..nd no consequences yet.

Did you listen to the arisetv program i posted at All

seunmsg:

So, what order did the court gave that you want INEC to obey?

Let me help you a bit, stop following the narrative or interpretation of a partisan and paid media. The court of appeal never set aside the judgement of the Ibadan High Court. In fact, the appeal filed by Turaki’s group was dismissed. So, when an appeal is dismissed and the court refused to set aside the judgement of the trial court, that’s a big loss for the appellant and not a victory.

Again, even if the court had dissolved the NWC, the Turaki group cannot be the beneficiary except the court expressly gave such an order and which wasn’t the case. The Turaki group died after the Supreme Court judgement. The BOT has no power to bring them back. Even if there is a vacancy, it is only the NEC that can appoint an interim NWC and not an expired BOT led by Wabara.

Let me 1st come in here, Even the seyi fraction has acceted turaki leadership that stems from the ibadan convention can't is null & void that why the currently they reverted to the WAbara BOT that was lastly constituted in accordance with the Party rule at anytime the party leadership can't be empty
Fortunately the legal Wabara BOT are on Turaki fraction nd thats where wike lost out.

As at today, Wike is the most senior NEC member and he’s the only one that can mobilize majority of NEC members to meet and appoint an interim NWC in case of any vacancy.

If the supreme court upheld the suspension of Ajibade, Anyamwu & likes ... there is no way the Abuja convention that produced Wike is valid..
Anything that comes from Anyanwu as secretary after suspension is null & void thats the court position.

So, what orders did you guys want INEC to obey when the court dismissed the appeal and never gave any order?

So at these level ... inec should open contact with PDP wabara BoT until they converge n produce a " Leader " & NEC ..thats the appropriate move for inec But if they chose to go ahead with WiKe fine ! Court is waiting for Amupitan inec

Sebi " statuo anti bello" prof . Amupitan did his Wish, supreme court embrassed him, 2nd one is loading

osumyke:
It's better to stay alive divorced than die in a marriage that is fruitless

Ose motivational speakers, an average Nigerian life is full of problem even as single ... We dont tell ourselves to commit suicide

life throw all kinds all shiit at single, we motivate ourselves and say Na whu give up fvckup BUT the moment we mention marriage .. Our modern people believe Divorces is the solution, any inconvenience they prescribe Divorce

If its not life threaten or domestic violence gone norm ...i don't support Divorce

some of you, alone your life is full of shit ..do you divorce yourself

seunmsg:
Can you bring out the court judgement that says INEC should de-recognize the Abdulrahman led NWC and recognize the Turaki group that was disbanded by the Supreme Court?

I am not the type to go round arguing blindly, i couldnt lay my hands on the appeal CTC, you can discredit me if you have your own judgement

BUT Here are evidences i find reliable, lets hope you have a counter evidence likewise, listen to the


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63tRreBH2gE&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D

More.

seunmsg:
Why? Because a faceless group issued an irrelevant statement? Who takes this kind of sponsored rubbish seriously? Every sensible person knows who the recognized leasers of PDP are. They are in Wadata plaza conducting the business of the party daily. The online faction can keep making noise online, nobody cares. Their candidates (if they have any) will contest their election online as usual.

I don't know why a suppose human being will think and talk like a program computer village robot

Even with the recent Appeal court judgement in circulation ... don't you know when to just shut up

Is Pdp Wike inheritance abi iyalaya Wike lo ko owo si le to form PDP in '99

even Atiku, who financed pdp in '99 is not holding unto PDP like is family inheritance, who the hell is Wike in '99 when they formed that party.

SO which court Judgement validly puts Wike fraction in Pdp plaza

What a joke, can you just imagine

What was LP state before Obi joined the party. .. who were they nd what was LP position on national scale

To assert i spoiled your car ... Is the car in good condition before you gave it to me

shebi Peter Obi has left them now, why is LP not " trending" .. If anybody will talk should it be Abure that is imposing himself on the party despite court judgement he is still fighting tooth & nail

How many people can because of Abure vote LP