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Havertz10:
you believe in god? Do you know his name? What if the bible identifier is wrong and god means nothing, maybe if we didn't use it to mean god, it would have been used to mean homosexuality

Who is god? Does he come from somewhere or he appeared out of thin air?

Where is the begining of the beginning, I have had all these questions and I have gotten answers, not all are perfect but I keep adjusting the more I learn but I can tell you with complete confidence, that god is the biggest and most convenient ponzi scheme in the history of humanity

I believe in God, I don’t care to know his name, I don’t care to know his relationship status, I don’t care to know his tribe, what he looks like and how he talks, I just believe in his existence with faith and by birth.

My choice.

handelex:
And how can you be a Christian?

Because it’s not impossible for me to be.

handelex:
Do you believe the story of God being born of a virgin and later crucified to save your soul?

How can a virgin give birth?

handelex:
No shame at all

But seriously with your antecedents so far, one can't help but surmise that you're just wearing the Christianity cloak to push an agenda. You know what I mean.

Guy hwfr nh? Answer my question and stop changing topic.

DissTroy:
Context. Context.

Again on your stand, do you have proof that God exists?

And why do you think God is a 'He' when even the Bible states that we are all made in the image of God. Who then do females look like?

What’s my stand?

Havertz10:
you no longer believe in god, once you start doubting and seeing flaws in the bible, it can only lead one way

Bible na book, Na story, it was filtered, some things were pulled out, it’s confusing, no reasonable person will believe everything in the Bible, even the pastors don’t use some verses, they use the ones that favors them.

I’m a Christian, I believe in God, I don’t believe everything the Bible says.

afrodoc2:
This is quite true. If Salah and KDB had stayed JM would have killed their careers prematurely.

True, Mata was lucky he didn’t meet Mou when he first came to Chelsea.

DissTroy:
Do you have prove that God doesn't exist? The onus is on you to prove the non-existence of a supreme being since you are the one(s) disbelieving its existence.

I can’t remember disbelieving God’s existence, I believe he exist, try follow up discussions before involving yourself.

The reason I asked that was because he said I assume to make my point, reason I want to know how he believed God’s existence without assumption.

Emmynator:
Without the bible how do you form Christian belief?

If you don't believe in the bible, just become an athiest, instead of asking a Christian to give you an answer without referring to the Bible, is no different from asking an athiest. The point is Christianity is built on the Bible, to deny the Bible is to deny Christianity itself.

Athiestism is there, Agnosticism is there, you fit in better with either of these than calling yourself Christian and disagreeing with every core belief of Christianity. There are irreligious people that believe in God but don't hold unto any religion, these are alternatives for you, dont kill yourself with confusion on this Christianity hill.

“I DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE BIBLE SAYS”

What’s difficult to understand here?

handelex:
Ah but you're not a Bible believing Christian are you?

See wetin you dey do yourself.

Shame no dey catch you?

Jodera:
Did you know how long he stayed in Eden to think he's not productive enough?
Did he felt he' was lacking anything for him to be creative)? After all it's said that necessity is the mother of innovations

If he's not lacking anything in Garden of Eden, what is there to be creative about

How is sex really an Eye-opener? Is it that it makes our mind alert or "know things we initially don't know before"
I'll love to know about this sha. Just few talk if you can oblige me

He couldn’t even impregnate Eve in the Garden, very unproductive man.

Sex is an eye-opener...

It exposes you to lots of evil knowledge.

handelex:
Tell me your camp first

Christian Camp

handelex:
It matters alot bro, it will save us all whole of time

Do you have proof that God exist?

popizaino:
This is just one of the few of his numerous brilliant moments at Chelsea that most who underrated him never took note. Nigerian Micheal carrick that was unfortunate with his first manager in Europe.
Anyway, he is by Far the best player to ever put on the green white green Jersey. I will choose him one million times over Jorginho.

You are right. Mou I think, messed his game up.

handelex:
Since you believe by faith, you don't need to judge those who seem to be operating on a higher level of faith. Where your faith stops another's faith starts or continues.

All faith Na faith.

handelex:
Are you asking as a Christian or an atheist

Does it matter?

Just answer the simple question.

Jodera:
Lol... You see say you don hook.

If I tell you were they Fvcked now, you'll refer me back to the bible of how they ate fruit.

If I refer you back to the bible of how they had intercourse (and Eve got pregnant) you'll say let's leave Bible.

I see you as someone who take Adam as one Dundee who's like a robot until he ate that fruit.

I don't know why we need rack our brains in order to solve issues, instead of just having sex and be smart, since according to you, na sex be Eye-opener

He was actually a Dundee, no creativity or productivity throughout his stay in the Garden of Eden.

Sex is an eye opener, any spiritual person will agree to this. I never said sex makes one smart or technology guru.

handelex:
I said nothing of such so far, I'm rather following your line of argument.

Do you have proof that God exist?

handelex:
Yet you believe in him... that's not very logical or scientific of you now is it?

It's safe to say then you believe his existence by faith, so you have faith in God you can't prove his existence. Nice to know bro.

I earlier said I believe God by faith, nothing new.

Nobody alive can prove the existence of God, no Christian can prove that, Na just faith everybody take believe am, no dey act different.

Jodera:
Did the bible record they had no knowledge of intercourse before the disobedience?

Let’s leave what the Bible recorded and judge with results, that will benefit us both.

In the Garden of Eden, they had no child, they fvcked, God chased them out and they now birthed.

If they had sex knowledge prior to the “Disobedient”, why didn’t they birth in the Garden of Eden?

Jodera:
From what I know, I've being the one answering your questions steadily, but you've not done justice to mine.

Well, where Adam and Eve went to is other places not named Garden of Eden. The Garden of Eden was place God designed for man (Adam to stay), after the creation of the universe. It's like you building a house and dedicating a special room to your taste. If you go out of that room, that doesn't mean the other parts of the house is useless and nonsense.

God has created the lands, seas fishes and animals, but he planted Man in Garden of Eden where it's specially created and everything was there for him.

If after he left Garden of Eden, Man will still meet lands, water, animals and all sort, not in Garden of Eden. So you asking where Cain went to shouldn't be a problem cos he'll have gone to any land in the earth

Lmao!

Story with direct answer. Again I’ll ask, who were the parent in-law of Cain.

The land he ran to, weren’t people living there? How did they start existing? All these needs direct answers, not well packaged stories from the Bible.

handelex:
So it's not really in the Bible like you're making it to be, it's safe to say you're assuming and assumption they say it's the lowest cader of knowledge.

Well I don't know about opening/clearing of eyes after sex but I for one my eyes didn't clear after the first time.

You assume that God exist, you have no proof.

Is it safe to say you are using the lowest cader of Knowledge?

Jodera:
but you still haven't answered my Question I asked you at first. Lemme repeat

When God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply (which happened before the disobedience), what way were they to be fruitful and multiply if not intercourse?
If you know any other way, do tell me

Did they multiply before the disobedience?

handelex:
Well you and I know that you can't separate Christianity from the Bible, they're inseparable. Infact one of the core fundamentals of Christianity is the belief that the Holy book is divinely inspired and has the final authority over every matter.

But since you believe God exists and you do believe in him, why is that? How do you come to that conclusion? Do you have any proof as to how this God exists since you claim to know more about Christianity?

I don’t have any proof that God exit, there’s no proof, nobody can prove it.

Nobody alive can prove the existence of God.

I just believe he exist, that has been my orientation since birth.

Jodera:
it's never a sin in the beginning of time to marry your female sibling.

The mistake you made was that you think that Adam and Eve gave birth to ONLY Cain and Abel. Meanwhile the bible said otherwise.


Anyways we're digressing. My previous post just proved to you that the fruit they ate was literal and not some coded words for intercourse that you're making us to believe

When did it become a sin to marry your siblings? What changed? Where did Cain run to? Who and who made up the land? You sure you wanna continue this?

You didn’t prove anything to me, so far I've been making realistic point more than you, you’ve just been running around a particular verse.

Jodera:
Genesis 4:1
Then Adam had intercourse with his wife, and she became pregnant.

The above answer happened outside Eden and the bible was explicit about it(by Adam having intercourse with Eve which resulted in pregnancy).

So there goes your answer.

Why didn’t it happen in the garden of Eden?

They had short time in the garden of Eden, got exposed to sex, realized how naked they were, e pain God, e chase them comot, they left and continued fvckin which led to pregnancy.

handelex:
Them talk this one foe Bible too? Please can you refer to the passage I want to learn too.

Forbidden fruit dey middle of the garden.

What was the first reaction after eating the forbidden fruit? Didn’t they realized how naked they were? That’s what the knowledge of evil[Sex] does, even till date. E dey clear eyes.

Sex was the fall of Adam.

Bombblacks:
K

Hallelujah members.

Na them.

Jodera:
Cain and Abel weren't the only Children of Adam and Eve.

They had many other children (including Seth whom Jesus Christ descended from)

Since you said lemme don't bobo you with Bible, meaning that you don't believe in Bible then...
So no need discussing further cos Bible is our main reference book as Christians.
If you don't believe in it, where do you want us to get our reference from? Ababio abi Ugo C Ugo

This is the problem.

Be like me, A Christian who doesn’t believe everything the Bible says.

Till date, we are yet to know the parent in-law of Cain.

Jodera:
Before the disobedience, God proclaimed to Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. Was there any other way aside sex where one can be fruitful and multiply?? If yes, do tell me.

2ndly, when God punished Adam, he told him that he'll till the soil before he'll see food to eat. Isn't that a good punishment(consequence) as opposed the free foods and fruits that he got easily at the garden of Eden?

When were Cain and Abel birthed?

In the Garden or after they disobeyed God?

Bombblacks:
K

You see, you couldn’t even answer that.

This is why Atheists easily rubbish and outsmart most Christians during discussions or arguments.

Most of you only read the Bible based on Pastor recommendation, verses wey go help them make una gullible.

handelex:
Lolz no dey disguise bro. You're too bold for your liking to be disguising like this.

You claim you believe the God of the Bible who according to the Bible is Omniscient and now you're asking this question?

Just wear your atheist badge with pride

I actually want to learn. I’m fully ready to learn from a good Christian who knows better.

When I ask some questions, it’s not me trolling or trying to dispute the fact that God exist, it’s just me checking if I’ll see any Christian who can boldly answer some questions without over referring to the Bible, maybe use some things that happens in reality to make a point.