MangekyoAlt:

The sad truth is that Ukraine would never remain the same again after this war.
Coupled with the massive debt that would take generation upon generations to completely pay off, we don't know how far the russians would go before calling it a day.
But something tells me that with the price russia has paid, Putin would be sure to make sure he takes enough, like extremely ridiculous chunks of land to make up for it. If somehow Ukraine gets landlocked which isn't impossible, they're doomed! All their oil and gas reserves are in Donbas, lugansk and the south. All their farms and industries are there too. They wouldn't be able to export goods like wheat even if they manage to bounce back with production, except they'll start paying russia for access to black sea.

Russia will definitely forgive Ukraine and even take them back in. But I don't russia trusting them easily anymore. They've been going back on all the deals they signed with Russia whenever the west tells them to do so so it would be stupid to trust them.
Zelensky would have to be removed and even exiled for Russia to even consider. They man is too gullible, docile and daft. He lacks common sense. He had been feeling like godzilla before the past few weeks because he thought russia retreated from kyiv because of his successes.
He even went on to pause negotiations, claiming that he is ready to fight the battle and win even if it takes ten years. I'm afraid the damage would already be done and a huge irrevocable blow to Ukraine before he pleads with Putin

Lugasnsk is almost liberated. Russian planes are flying all over LNR right now. Once done, Khakov, Odessa will be taken. They will take all the access to the Black Sea all the way to Transnistria. Russia wants that Neon in Odessa.

Ukraine is never getting out of this. Russia with all its wealth paid off its Lend/Lease loans in 2006 while UK just paid hers off recently. Their generation is doomed.

MangekyoAlt:


I thought they would give Ukraine the $40billion in hand. Imagine giving someone money and dictating for them how to use it.
So the weapons theyve been giving to Ukraine to defend democracy, isnt free and is apparently going to be paid with the money they've raised to aid Ukraine clowns.
Ukraine would be getting $10billion at max.
Mind you they've lost more than $80billion worth of assets and infrastructure with their economy in tatters ATM. poor Ukraine

I tell you, when Ukrainians know how much debts Zelensky has plunged their country into, they will assassinate him. That is, if the US/UK don't first.
The funny thing is, after this war. If they beg Russia, Russia will still forgive them and help them.

A quick breakdown of the $40 billion reveals $8.7 billion will go to replenish the US weapons stockpile (thus not going to Ukraine at all); $3.9 billion for USEUCOM (the ‘office’ that dictates military tactics to Kiev); $5 billion for a fuzzy, unspecified “global food supply chain”; $6 billion for actual weapons and “training” to Ukraine; $9 billion in “economic assistance” (which will disappear into selected pockets); and $0.9 billion for refugees.”

CC Svlla.

yyba:
Na lie Ukrainians are winning the war but on media hehehe

Kuleba and Arestovich were moaning today that Donbas is almost lost and it is going to be a very tough month for them. Ukraine ko, Mykraine ni.

Reports coming in that Russian Air Force above Luganks in huge numbers. LPR reports that he sees this for the first time, a lot of combat aircraft and helicopters have just swept over the city. They went in several waves. Soon, deafening explosions thundered in the distance, windows and even the walls of houses trembled.
At this time, air raid sirens are roaring in Ukraine.


The Russian army launched 3 missile attacks on industrial facilities in Krivoy Rog

"Serious damage. We are clarifying information on the victims," ​​Reznichenko, head of the Dnepropetrovsk regional military administration, said.

He added that the night in the Dnepropetrovsk region "was a continuous air raid.

Reports coming in that Russian Air Force above Luganks in huge numbers. LPR reports that he sees this for the first time, a lot of combat aircraft and helicopters have just swept over the city. They went in several waves. Soon, deafening explosions thundered in the distance, windows and even the walls of houses trembled.
At this time, air raid sirens are roaring in Ukraine.

Svlla:
Svetlodarsk is taken

Cc Drenimarcus Drenimarcus222

Taken without a fight . Russia is just artillerying everything right now and Ukrops are in a panic.

Their leaders are even jailing deserters. Ukraine is a mess.

Svlla:


so after everything it's the EU that will be cashing out of that $40b

I did not see the breakdown oo pls can you share it here

I honestly cannot remember where I saw it. I think on moon of Alabama dot org.

This guy na werey .

Zelensky is again ready to meet with Putin (before the defeat in the Donbass he was not ready) - "to end the war":

"I do not perceive any meeting with anyone from the Russian Federation, except for the President of the Russian Federation, even if there is one question - ending the war“

Zele na one were guy

There's no record of anyone named Boris Bondarev being employed by Russia's MFA. The diplomat he supposedly worked for, Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov, does exist, but all references to him end in 2018. Also, while I was doing my search at the MFA's English page, I was suddenly denied access, which is highly unusual, while nothing occurred at the Russian language page. Given AP is aka All Propaganda, and the content of the letter is so wrong, I'd say it's 100% Fake News. Plus, there's nada at MFA.

Lavrov recently stated "there are no traitors within Russia's MFA." Lavrov's diplomatic content is very consistent from one public appearance to the next and is nothing as described; indeed, it's the opposite. I know because I follow all his events.

Aha!! I just found the roster of Russia's Deputy Foreign Ministers and one Gennady Gatilov isn't one of the eleven posted. So, I'm 100% confident the AP item is 100% Fake News.

I am so in for the Porochenko and Zelensky fight. I know Zelensky won't last long before he is killed.

Svlla:


Counterattack ko

The joke is on them. Let them pray that tye Russians take a 'rest' because at this rate their army is going to break soon

Rest kee, when the Bear smells blood and is going in for the killing. Did you see the breakdown of the $40B? Ukraine only get $10B and $30B goes to US and the EU. That country is finished.

Svlla:


The comedian was talking trash as usual

Liman is complete chaos

There's chaos everwhere

I went on the Ukrainians telegram groups, they kept talking about counters. Those guys are on a massive copium. Chaos everywhere.

Svlla:


In Donesk it's getting hot at Svetlodarsk. The force concentration at Marinka-Avdiivka is about to come into the cauldron

It is finished! Meanwhile, Zelensky doesn't give a shit about Ukrainians. He was on Davos today.

Svlla:


I got similar treatment yesterday and that was the 3rd ban in recent days

500 surrendered in Lyman is a huge one....they are raining Artillery on them

I probably will be using my alt now. I have lost count of bans I have received.

Lyman gone will kill all the morale left of Ukrainians.

adeprof18:


Eventhough i don't support the special military operation cuz it is killing innocent civilian, yet i refused to be fooled by the media. Ukraine stands no chance against russia. Worst case scenario if russia feels defeated, they destroy everything if it means sending high precision missile to kyiv with nuclear war head.

The best for Ukraine is to negotiate until it is too late. Begging for weapon that you don't have will not win them war. Russia is a super power cuz they have what Ukraine lack.

Me too! honestly, I think if Ukraine knew that US/NATO won't put boots on ground, they won't have ventured into this war. Russia is still calling it a military operation not war. Ukraine is in panic right now, even America is saying only Ukraine can decide its fate. Imagine! I hope they surrender so all this can end.

adeprof18:
Who noticed nobody is talking about putin has cancer again after they saw him healthy on May 9 victory day celebration

Imagine its Ukraine telling us the number of dead Russians and destroyed vehicles when russia keep driving them out of captured territory. Are they counting those losses as they were being chased cuz russia keep gaining more territories every day and you won't see that on the biased media that claim azoz fighter were evacuated instead of surrendered when they had to choose btw to die in their rat hole or surrendered to live.

You are smart! Now, it is Ukrainian intelligence saying that Putin survived assassination . Putin who has been having meetings here and there. Another 500-600 just surrendered in Liman few moments ago. Russia prison is bursting with these "evacuations"

Svlla:
Interesting news on the Rouble Zone

Russian ministry of Economic development to stop strengthening of the Ruble

Says the Ruble has reached its peak

Currently the Ruble to dollar is 57 and to Euro is 59

Cc Drenimarcus

Saw your mention, I have been banned

Someone is pissy They need to.

Just reading now that another 500 surrendered in Lyman.