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PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 5:45pm On May 22, 2020
Supan:
Why are you crying all over the place then?

Have you ever seen a winner crying?
Lol.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 5:35pm On May 22, 2020
Supan:
You have fought and lost already here. What else grin

Abi you wan physical ni
Nope, I didn't lose.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 5:25pm On May 22, 2020
Supan:
Retreat haff begin... Na jus round 1 be this oo
If I am fighting with Aniomas, the first thing I will do is to use the divide and conquer tactics. Or you think I am not aware that there is no ethnic group called Anioma.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 5:21pm On May 22, 2020
darfay:
All this is not necessary at all, what have they done to develop Delta State, I mean the people y'all mentioned? Let's shun ethnicity
I didn't post that list for comparison. I just want to debunked the notion that Urhobo does not have enough human resources.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 4:45pm On May 22, 2020
[quote author=Theundertaker post=89842462][/quote]No, it is not for comparison. I saw lots of statement here about Urhobos not having human resources. The list is just to debunk that notion. There is more than enough human resources in Urhobo land.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 4:32pm On May 22, 2020
Some Prominent Urhobo Sons

Senator David Dafinone
First Nigerian Guiness World Record Holder for having the family with highest number of chartered accountant in the world.

Prof. Matthew Scott-Emakpor
First African to receive a P.HD in genetics. He pioneered the field of genetics in Nigeria.

Chief Rex Akpofure
First Nigerian principal of Kings College Lagos.

Prof. Amos Utuama
First Nigerian to have a P.hD in Planning law

Chief Gamaliel Onosode
First Nigerian to establish an indigenous stockbroking firm
Foundational president of the Nigerian Institute of Management (NIM)
Former chairman Cadbury Nigeria Plc
Former Chairman Dunlop Nigeria Plc

Wellington Jighere
First African to win the World Scrabble Championship

Edirin Okoloko
Recently appointed as judge in the United States

Justice Francis Ayo Irikefe
Former Chief Justice of Nigeria

Justice Victor Ovie-Whiskey
Head of the Federal Electoral Commision (FEDECO) in 1983
Former Chief Judge of Bendel State

Hon Justice J.O Akpovi
Former Chief Judge of Bendel State

Chief Michael Ibru
Patriach of the Ibru family

Okoloko Onajite
Chairman Midwestern Oil and Gas Ltd
Chairman Notore Chemical Industries
Chairman Eroton Exploration and Production Ltd
Chairman Ocean Oil and Gas Ltd

Cecilia Ibru
MD/CEO Oceanic Bank

Igho Sanomi
MD/CEO Taleveras Oil and Gas Group
Co-owner of the Portharcourt Electricity Distribution Company (PHED)

Chief Otega Emerhor
Chairman Standard Alliance Group
Former MD/CEO of First City Monument Bank
Chairman of Transcorp Hotels

Chief Alex Ibru
Publisher of the Guardian Newspapers

Eng Matthew Edevbie
MD/CEO Incomtrix Ltd, one of the owners of the Portharcourt Electricity Distribution Company (PHED)

Chief Godwin Agofure
MD/CEO of Agofure Motors

Olorogun Kenneth Gbagi
MD/CEO of GKO group of Companies, which own the Golden Tulip Hotels in Warri and Abuja.
Chairman Falcon Bay Energy Ltd
Former chairman of the Legal Aid Council of Nigeria

Albert Okumgaba
MD/CEO BGL Plc, an investment banking firm

Chief Goodie Ibru
Chairman Abuja Sheraton Hotel and Towers
President Lagos Chamber of Commerce and Industry

Major General David Ejoor (Rtd)
Former Chief of Army Staff (COAS)
Former Military Governor of the Midwestern Region

Brigadier General Oviemo Ovadje (Rtd)
Inventor of the life-saving EAT-SET used to purify blood lost by a patient and transfused the purified blood back into the patient during surgery or emergency.

Major General Patrick Aziza (Rtd)
First military governor of Kebbi State

Former minister of communication
Air Vice Marshall (AVM) Frank Ajobena (Rtd)

Former military governor of Abia State
Major General Orho Esiso Obada (Rtd)
Acting Chief of Air Staff (1970-71)

Brigadier General Harris Eghagha (Rtd)
Former Military Governor of Ogun State

Major General Felix Mujakperuo (Rtd)
Former Field Commander of ECOMOG Troops
Current Orodje of Okpe

Chief Samuel Jareton Marierie
First Governor of Midwestern region

Senator Ovie Omo-Agege
Deputy Senate president

Demas Akpofure
Deputy Governor of Bendel State

Chief Felix Ibru
First civilian governor of Delta State

Chief James Ibori
Former governor of Delta State

Grace Ekpihre
Former minister of Science and Technology
Stephen Oru
Former minister of Niger Delta Affairs

Macauley Ofurhie
Former MD Nigeria Petroleum Development Company Ltd (NPDC)
Former MD Nigeria Gas Company (NGC)

Peter Igho
Former DG Nigeria Lottery Commission

Emmanuel Aguavwariode
Former MD Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC)

Bernard Okumagba
Former MD Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC)

Prof Bruce Onobrakpeya
World-renowned sculptor and painter
Recipient of the UNESCO Human Living Treasure Award in 2006

Prof Isidore Okpewho
Author of The Last Duty, The Victims
Winner of the 1993 Commonwealth Writer’s Prize

Ben Okri
Famous Novelist and Poet
Youngest ever winner of the BBC Booker Prize
Winner of the 1987 Commonwealth Writer Prize for Africa

Blessing Okagbare
Olympic silver medalist in long jump

Wilson Oruma
Captain of the team that won the 1993 FIFA Under 17 World Cup

David Dejiro Defiagbon
Olympic silver medalist in boxing

Jonathan Akpoborie
Member of the 1985 flying eagles team that won the under 17 World Cup
Highest-scoring Nigerian to ever play in the German Budesliga

Prof Andrew Onakeraye
Former vice-chancellor University of Benin (UNIBEN)
Renowned professor of geography and town planning

Prof Phillip Kuale
Former vice-chancellor BENDEL State University (Now Edo state University)
Renowned Professor of Engineering

Prof John Etu-Efeotor
Former vice-chancellor Federal University of Petroleum Resources

Renowned Professor of Geology
Prof Akpofure Rim-Ruke
Current Vice-chancellor Federal University of Petroleum Resources

Professor John Enaohwo
Former vice-chancellor Delta State University
Former deputy vice-chancellor University of Portharcourt

Prof Akpofure Rim-Ruke
Current Vice-chancellor Federal University of Petroleum Resources

Prof S.W.E Ibodje
Former deputy vice-chancellor University of Port Harcourt
Renowned professor of public administration

Prof Andrew Evwaraye
Former deputy vice-chancellor University of PortHarcourt
Renowned professor of physics

Professor Sam Oyovbaire
Former Minister of Information
Renowned professor of political science
Prof Peter Ekeh
Renowned professor of sociology

Professor Onigu Otite
Renowned professor of sociology

Professor G.G Darah
Renowned professor of oral literature and folklore

Professor Hope Eghagha
Renowned professor of English Language

Movie/Comedy/Music Industry
Ali Baba
I go dye
I go Save
Richard Mofe-Damijo
Rachel Oniga
Justus Esiri
Nobert Young
Eku Edewor
Ejiro Mcdermott
Tosin Igho
Fathia Balogun
Erriga
Youngsix
Kefe
Sophie Okonedo
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 4:16pm On May 22, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=efe2real post=89841383]

You in Ogwa-shuku will be telling someone with a mum from Okpe the reality on ground abi. Me that grow up in the midst of Okpe people. Nothing I nor go hear for Nairaland shall. [/s] that is the reality Mister man
It is your own reality. The reality from Orodje palace is what everyone accepts.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 4:09pm On May 22, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
I am telling you the reality on ground Mister man
You in Ogwa-shuku will be telling someone with a mum from Okpe the reality on ground abi. Me that grow up in the midst of Okpe people. Nothing I nor go hear for Nairaland shall. Nor go face your bitter reality about how the South East Igbos dey call Anioma people fake Igbo.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 3:51pm On May 22, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=efe2real post=89840094]

The reality is the Orodje of Okpe and the Supreme Council of Okpe Kingdom has come out to state clearly that the Okpes kingdom is one of the Urhobo kingdoms. You should be worrying about how to convince the South East Igbos that Anioma is not a FAKE Igbo.[/s] your are inconsequential in affair of Okpe kingdom
The people that matter have cleared up the issue. This is a statement from them.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/on-okpe-are-not-urhobo/

If you disagree with them, you can go to the Orodje of Okpe palace to state your grieviance. They are waiting for you.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 3:37pm On May 22, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=efe2real post=89838721]

I am being very sincere with you. I know more about Okpe than you do as my mum is from there. This is a statement from the Orodje of Okpe palace here. Go through it.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/on-okpe-are-not-urhobo/[/s] Okpe kingdom is not Urhobo Mister man this is the reality on ground ovie
The reality is the Orodje of Okpe and the Supreme Council of Okpe Kingdom has come out to state clearly that the Okpes kingdom is one of the Urhobo kingdoms. You should be worrying about how to convince the South East Igbos that Anioma is not a FAKE Igbo.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 3:00pm On May 22, 2020
Nowenuse:
Hmm, I don't know if you are being sincere with what you are saying.

@Efewestern, darfay & Mystiquefia

I have met with so many Okpe people who clearly tell me that they are not Urhobos. I have also met with those who accept that they are Urhobos.

Read this below.

https://okpeunionamerica.org/message-to-urhobo-brothers/
I am being very sincere with you. I know more about Okpe than you do as my mum is from there. This is a statement from the Orodje of Okpe palace here. Go through it.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/on-okpe-are-not-urhobo/
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 5:16pm On May 21, 2020
Nowenuse:
Nice one.

Politically, Okpes are still together with the Urhobos, but mentally, most Okpes reject Urhobo identity. Why is this so?

Many of them vehemently assert their Okpe identity and get angry and even violent if you insist it is the same with Urhobo.
My mum is from Okpe, but my dad is Urhobo. So, I grow up in a setting mixed with Urhobo and Okpe. Never have I encounter any Okpe person all throughout my life that vehemently opposed the Urhobo tag. Saying a person is an Okpe person is just like saying another person is an Uvwie, Ughievwen, Udu, Agbarho, Olomu, Oghara, or Jesse person. I don't get where you got the impression that the Okpes reject the Urhobo tag. Abi, nor be the same Warri I still grow up too and even in the midst of people from Okpe kingdom.

These issues have long been settled. Okpe identifies as one of the 24 kingdoms in Urhobos. Isoko is not Urhobo.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 10:03pm On May 20, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=efe2real post=89777064]

She didn't counter with any fact. Let her show any document where the orodje of Okpe and the Supreme council of Okpe kingdom said that Okpe is not Urhobo.

I am glad you didn't counter my point about you Igbos reffering to the Aniomas as fake Igbos. She should worry about being a fake igbo.[/s] Which prove again? When okpe students in Delta state university do their meeting differently from urhobo Union
This should make things clear.
https://www.independent.ng/okpe-are-urhobo-people-say-leaders-of-thought/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/on-okpe-are-not-urhobo/

These are from Okpe people themselves making their position clear on the issue.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 10:00pm On May 20, 2020
Juliusmalema:
You are hearing meaning it has been existing.
Read again. I said this is the FIRST time I am hearing that okpe is fake Urhobo in my life
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 9:57pm On May 20, 2020
Juliusmalema:
By your argument, why dragging Okpe when you still see them as fake Urhobo.

LMAO.


Reverse argument is bad... Don't always employ such in midst of sane people.
Lol. Who said Okpe is fake Urhobo? Obviously, it will be someone in onitsha, of course. This is the first time I am hearing that Okpe is fake Urhobo.

https://www.independent.ng/okpe-are-urhobo-people-say-leaders-of-thought/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/on-okpe-are-not-urhobo/

That should make things clearer.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 9:49pm On May 20, 2020
Juliusmalema:
Reverse argument. You couldn't counter but introduce reverse tactics.

All these less than 8 local government in Nigeria and their hate filled campaigns.

Face her squarely , otherwise keep shut.
She didn't counter with any fact. Let her show any document where the orodje of Okpe and the Supreme council of Okpe kingdom said that Okpe is not Urhobo.

I am glad you didn't counter my point about you Igbos reffering to the Aniomas as fake Igbos. She should worry about being a fake igbo.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 9:40pm On May 20, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
[[s]quote author=efe2real post=89776216]

I disagree with you. Urhobo has many dialects. Some of them include ughiewvien, Udu, Uvwie, Ughelli, Olomu, Agbarho, Okpe, Agbarha, Jesse, Oghara, and Ewvreni. Okpe dialect is similar to Uvwie dialect. An Ughiewven man might have a hard time understanding an Uvwie and an Okpe man. The general Urhobo spoken is that of Agbarho.

Any of this dialect can choose to become a distinct ethnic group like the Isoko if they want. Likewise many choose to remain in the Urhobo nation just like the Okpes. The Isokos and Urhobos were jointly reffered to as the Sobos by the British during the colonial era. While the Isokos decided to forge an ethnic identity of theirs later, the other Urhobo dialects, including the Okpes, decided to stay within the Urhobo nation.

It is the same way an Anambra man might have a hard time understanding an Edda man from Ebonyi. But they are all Igbos.

The names and culture of the different dialects, plus Okpe, and even that of Isoko, are quite similar with minor differences here and there.

I just want to point out that there are different dialects among the Urhobos.

[/s] Okpe kingdom is not Urhobo land stop attaching by force angry
In fact, Urhobos are not even in Delta State. Are u satisfied? Oya go and worry about how your brothers accross River Niger will stop calling you fake Igbos.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m): 9:25pm On May 20, 2020
Liliantalks:
isoko is not urhobo n that’s fact ,, but urhobo and okpe is still debatable. But isoko no join , their language is totally different. Their names r different , their culture is also different
I disagree with you. Urhobo has many dialects. Some of them include ughiewvien, Udu, Uvwie, Ughelli, Olomu, Agbarho, Okpe, Agbarha, Jesse, Oghara, and Ewvreni. Okpe dialect is similar to Uvwie dialect. An Ughiewven man might have a hard time understanding an Uvwie and an Okpe man. The general Urhobo spoken is that of Agbarho.

Any of this dialect can choose to become a distinct ethnic group like the Isoko if they want. Likewise many choose to remain in the Urhobo nation just like the Okpes. The Isokos and Urhobos were jointly reffered to as the Sobos by the British during the colonial era. While the Isokos decided to forge an ethnic identity of theirs later, the other Urhobo dialects, including the Okpes, decided to stay within the Urhobo nation.

It is the same way an Anambra man might have a hard time understanding an Edda man from Ebonyi. But they are all Igbos.

The names and culture of the different dialects, plus Okpe, and even that of Isoko, are quite similar with minor differences here and there.

I just want to point out that there are different dialects among the Urhobos.
PoliticsRe: Thread Closed. Thanks for your submissions by efe2real(m):
Funny thread. The Urhobos are the largest ethnic group in Delta State. That is not even disputable.

In terms cities, the aniomas can only boast of Asaba which was developed by the resources of the whole state. Of course, Deltans need to have a capital they can be proud of. Oghara is more developed than Kwale, Ogwa-shuku. Maybe, Agbor and Oghara are on the same level. Let's not even compare any Aniomas towns to Effurun, Udu, Sapele, Ughelli, and Warri. There are 2 Urhobos kingdoms in Warri: Okere-Urhobo and Agbarha Kingdom, with their Kings respectively. So the Urhobos have a major stake in Warri.

One thing most people don't know is that many of the areas reffered to as Warri are not really in Warri. In fact the Warri refinery and PTI are in Ekpan and Effurun respectively in Uvwie local government, which is an Urhobo land. The areas surrounding Warri are Urhobo lands, but they are all lumped into Warri. But outsiders don't know the difference.

In terms of influence, most people are not aware that the first civilian governor of the Midwestern region is an Urhobos man: Jereton Marierie. Currently, the Godfather of Delta State politics is Ibori. Any observant mind would know that what is common between the last 2 governor's of the state is that they are Ibori boys. Both Okowa and Uduaghan. In fact, Uduaghan is even Ibori's cousin.

In terms of human resources, the Urhobos have that in abundance. My favorite of Brigadier General Oviemo Ovadje (rtd), the inventor of the emergency autotransfusion set (EAT-SET) used to purify and transfuse a patient's blood that would have otherwise been discarded into him/her during surgery or emergency. I Iaugh so hard when someone added a governorship aspirant to the list of notable aniomas sons.

For the record, Isoko is not Urhobo. Okpe is one of the kingdoms in Urhobos.
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m):
Armaggedon:
efe2real clown, and you want the world to believe that the same isoko people who hate to share a common senatorial district with you will share a utopian Niger delta republic with you?

Isoko not sharing a senatorial district with Urhobos is all about politics, not hatred. Politics is all about interests. But of course, everyone whose interests do not align with the Igbos hates them, according to IPOB. The Isokos have shared the Western region, Midwestern region, Bendel State, and Delta State with the Urhobos. I don't see any reason why they won't share Niger Delta Republic with the Urhobos if it align with their interests.

that is not the issue. the issue is are the tribes happy with you instead? do the tribes prefer you that is calling for Niger delta republic to Igbo's?

https://thenationonlineng.net/association-warns-deltans-biafra-agitators/amp

That's an Isoko group opinion about Biafra.



How can itshekiri and ijaw trust you when you are still fighting over warri.

The way you paint it somebody will think that Warri is worse than Borno State. Warri that has not witness any crises for over 10 years. I can tell you that Warri is even more peaceful than many communities in Ebonyi State. The Urhobos, Itsekiris, and Ijaws in Warri have been part of the Western region, Midwestern region, Bendel State, and Delta State together. Even an Ijaw man was president for 6 years and had an Ijaw Chief of Army Staff for sometime, yet there was no crises during his tenure in Warri city with the ijaw having so much federal might. That is a clue that the Urhobos, Ijaws, and Itsekiris can still live with each other in any other country.


Did one urhobo group not call for the creation of a new state for urhobos when their plan to dominate Delta failed. why did they resolve to have another state and run away from the same group they want to form a country with? clown!

There has always been agitation for the creation of other states from Delta State. Likewise, in many states in Nigeria. For example: the aniomas have been fighting for Anioma State, Urhobos for Urhobos State, Ijaw and Itsekiris for Coastal State. So an Urhobos group agitating for an Urhobos State is not news.

someone said anti Igbo sentiment formed the basis of your audio Niger delta republic.

The person that said that is Nowenuse. I was curious to know the reasons that made him to propose the theory that anti-igbo sentiments is the glue holding the tribes in South South? Unfortunately, he is yet to answer my question.

Anioma are the only people keeping delta stable. create anioma state and watch delta go up in flames, how much more a warri republic.

This is really laughable. U guys give yourself too much credit I swear. Aniomas is the stabilizing factor in Delta State! Nothing Efe nor go hear for this Nairaland.




clown. Igbo are minority yet you run around crying that the same minority Igbo wants to dominate you. Inferiority complex induced hate can even make you contradict yourself so far as you suits your hateful self.

Igbos who are IPOB members are behaving like people from minority tribes on this Biafra issue. You guys are clinging to the South South like the survival of Biafra depends on it.

Everyone knows that the more fragmented a group is the more difficult it is to have a common objective. Mutual mistrust defeats unity of purpose.
many people from the Niger delta ethnic groups also grumble out of frustration but their fragmented nature has made them helpless to protest their condition.

The tribes in the region are not cowards. They have been agitating for the interests of the region all by themselves. Where were the Igbos during the Niger Delta Struggles?



Naturally any agitation that has implication for the entire eastern region has to start from the Igbos because its size and homogeneity makes for faster and easy communication and mobilization.

The first agitation that was done in the Eastern region was done by the Ijaws and terminated by the Igbos when they were the ones in charge of the country. Before Biafra, there was a Niger Delta Republic.

http://newsroom247.com.ng/?p=15917

United kindom started with the kingdom of england, then wales, then Scotland and later ireland. The "neuclus" of the slavic soviet union was Russia. Every great nation has a dominant culture and other related but smaller culture therein.

The bolded reveals the true intention of IPOB Biafra: to advance the interests of the Igbos.


yes we are proud. that is why we don't want to continue living like animals. we want to build a new future for our Children. I should rather be asking you if you have shame because you accept the status quo and have no aspirations whatsoever. but rather jump on Biafra thread to seek attention.


I am a proud member of the readers association of Nairaland. I rarely comment on Nairaland. But the way u IPOB members go about telling bare-faced and shameless lies and uterly disrespect the minorities of the south south region forced me to start commenting Biafra issues here. Una too dey lie and nor get even the tiniest regard for the tribes in the South South region.



you don't get the point. All these are non of your failing business. Focus on your urhobo, focus on getting okpe to accept urhobo identity, focus on settling your crisis in warri and gaining the trust of minorities in warri before sticking your neck into how IPOB is doing.

But adding Urhobos lands to BIAFRA without even according us the minimum respect of consulting our leaders is IPOB's business. Have you seen a Berom man in Plateau warned IPOB to remove them from Biafra? Of course, no. Because he has no business with IPOB as they were not included in BIAFRA.

clown. you don't know the difference between boundary dispute and inter ethnic dispute. communities all over country have boundary disputes.

Even your urhobo had one which cost the lives of several persons barely two months ago. https://thenationonlineng.net/two-killed-one-hospitalized-over-land-dispute-in-delta/

Thank God say you know say communities always have boundary disputes everywhere in Nigeria. For your information, majority of the crises that happened between the Urhobos, Itsekiris, and Ijaws are boundary disputes too. In fact, the Aladja and Ogbe-Ijoh recent crises was actually a boundary dispute.


however, ethnic crises are sectarian in nature and portray specific threat to political stability.

Actually, many crises reffered to as ethnic crises are actually land dispute between two different tribes. They are resolved just the way crises between Ezza/Ezillo or Ikwo/Izzi crises will be resolved.

The Igbo has never had sectarian crisis with any of their neighbours which they want to be part of Biafra. But you fight with ijaw and itshekiri and still pretend to speak for them.

Ebonyi and cross river are always at war. Or is cross river state not part of IPOB Biafra Map?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/06/ebonyi-cross-river-crisis-7000-displaced-1500-houses-burnt-many-killed/amp/


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-east/194817-one-killed-in-ebonyi-cross-river-communal-conflict.html

Audio hate! whatever you think Ebonyi are called is absolutely immaterial provided they have everything due them. Their gov. leads the southeast govs. forum and Arthur eze from Anambra is the biggest donor in the state. Many people from Anambra live in Abakiliki and vice versa. Have you heard of Anambra and ebonyi fight and kill themselves the way you fools do over ogbe ijaw.? clown.

At least, you accept that other Igbos regard Ebonyi as inferior Igbos. Have u heard of crises between the Urhobos and the Efik too? Of course, no because they don't have a land boundary. Same applies to Anambra and Ebonyi too. They have no land boundary that is why they are not killing themselves over land too.

Ogbe-Ijoh and Aladja crises is because of land boundary. Just like Ezza/Ezillo and Aguleri/Umuleri crises.


like repob and tribop?

No.

I mean socio-cultural groups representing these tribes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sunnewsonline.com/itsekiri-youths-warn-ipob-massob-remove-itsekiri-land-from-biafra-map-else/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1113743-nnamdi-kanus-ipob-warned-by-efik-group-leave-biafra-shenanigans.html

http://saharareporters.com/2017/08/14/ijaw-youth-council-dissociates-itself-biafra-agitators



ijaw issues shouldn't be the business of an urhobo clown


http://saharareporters.com/2017/08/14/ijaw-youth-council-dissociates-itself-biafra-agitators

yes. you have no choice. Go write it down. When a referendum comes you can't stop it. The only way to stop it is to mobilize your people to vote "no".unfortunately you can't because you are alone in your opinion. If you can you wouldn't be in every Biafran thread clowning and following pro Biafrans like flies.

Lol. Urhobos land na IPOB business abi. I don't need to mobilize anybody when the group that represents the Urhobos has denounced IPOB and Biafra.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/urhobo-denounces-inclusion-in-map-of-biafra/amp/ undecided


Biafra is an audio country and you are worked up, running around restless like a headless chicken at the mention of it?

Utopian Biafra.

Clown. you have to first of all ask if anyone is scared. Everybody supports your utopian Niger delta republic provided you get a flag, provide a map, take to the street in peaceful protest, get the support of the EU, US, Israel and make your case to the UN. If you do that we will be first to support you. But then you can't. You only pop up like a notification each time Biafra is discussed to express your inferiority complex. You still wonder why we regard you as someone who doest know his left from right?

Not everyone thinks agitation for something as serious as a country is all about carnivals, photoshoots, comedy, and spreading of senseless lies. Many groups in the South South region have not expressed their intention to leave Nigeria. Because the Igbos are agitating for Biafra now does not mean other groups will do same too. After all, the first time an ijaw man agitated for his own country, you guys were the one that suppressed it. So you have no right to tell tribes in the South South when to start agitating.



Pazienza is now your love because you have brought him down to your level of perpetual confusion, indecision and self loathe. we are not all like him.

Lol. Is he not a saboeteur?
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m):
Nowenuse:
Efe2real, Efewestern, Blackking98, Mystiquefia, TheGodlessGod, Kinematics

Well, perhaps I might have been too intrusive into Nigerdeltan affairs and much of a prophet of doom.
Well this is because of 2 things. I am from the northern minorities part of Nigeria, and I spent most of my life and upbringing in the Southern minorities area. In addition to that, I have been a northern minorities activist for the last 10 years.
If not for this covid pandemic, I was supposed to be having a meeting I organized for the youth leaders of some of the largest minority groups in the north/middlebelt.

So, I am not just one who comes to rant unnecessarily online and have no relationship whatsoever with my online agitations in real life.

I don't think any of you have been involved in grassroot mobilization or the study of minorities as I have been. I don't mean to Bragg.

You guys should not just be online commentators who come out to defend Nigerdelta on nairaland without a concrete firsthand relationship of the lives, mentalities and relationships of minority groups, especially as pertain to seccession or nation building.

I don't know how well you guys have studied the Breakup of Yugoslavia? Pls if any of you have not done that, I strongly advice you do so.... Likewise the partition of India, breakup war of Bangladesh and subsequent seccesionist agitations of Balochistan, Sikhs & Tamils/Dravidians.

See, if you guys really love your Nigerdelta identity as you claim and you are not just acting as spoilers. I suggest that you guys begin real physical ground work on the feasibility of a Nigerdeltan union before it is too late. Nigeria is sitting on a ticking time bomb and when the explosion takes places, those who are not well prepared will be left gnashing their teeth.
I have seen this and that is why people like me and others have taken up the task of enlightening my own people in this regard.

I am currently writing a voluminous book which will help my own people (northern minorities) understand ourselves, our territory, unity and everything else if peradventure division comes knocking. These are a few among many other things we are doing in our own capacity at the moment.


Now, let me give you guys these 2 examples from the breakup of Yugoslavia and India.
The demography of these 2 countries may be different from what we have in Nigeria, however at least they can give a picture.

1) THOSE WHO DON'T PREPARE AHEAD GNASH THEIR TEETH.

Slovenes & Croatians begun the seccesionist agitations to counter Serbian aggression & expansion. Meanwhile, Bosnians & Kosovoans were watching, perhaps acting as SPOILERS at that time, who knows.

When Croats & Slovenes successfully left, repelled and cleansed Serbians from their territories and Serbians knew it was lost in both territories, they had no other option but to descend on the weaker and silent Bosnians & Kosovoans in a desperate attempt to gain more territory.
Till today, the world is still lamenting of Serbian atrocities and genocide against Bosnians & Kosovoans (ethnic Albanians).

This is what happens to people who are not ready when the shiit hits the fan!
If not for US-NATO timely intervention, Bosnians & Kosovan Albanians would have been completely destroyed by Serbs.

Had it been Bosnians & Kosovans were well prepared and actively behind Croats & Slovenes when the whole katakata begun, It would have been impossible for the Serbs to decimate them in the manner they did.
So you people should ask yourselves where the Nigerdeltans will fall in all of these.


2) DIVISION BRINGS MORE AND MORE DIVISIONS AS NATIONALISM IS A VIRUS

After the partition of India along religious lines, Bengalis (East Pakistan) clearly saw that they could not cope with West Pakistan and Bengalis lost 3 million people who were massacred by Pakistani soldiers. Perhaps, half of Begali population would have been killed if not for India's intervention and today we have Bangladesh.
Now Balochistan has started their own agitation to breakaway from Pakistan. All of these are inspite of the fact that everyone has his or her own region in Pakistan where they control their own rescources! So why are people still wanting out? Ethnic differences and ethnic nationalism. Simple!
Sikhs & Tamils have had their own seccesionist movements from India too.


Yugoslavians are one people who speak the same language, but religion was their only problem, yet they divided into 7 countries and still counting till today ... Why not just 3? Since Orthodoxy, Catholicism & Islam were the only 3 religious divisions in Yugoslavia.
That is the virus of nationalism! Montenegro still broke out of Serbia later on.
Pakistanis had one religion but ethnicity still divided the country. .

Imagine if countries that had strong uniting factors such as religion, ethnicity & language were dividing themselves, how much more a so called Nigerdeltan republic only united by Anti-Igbo sentiments and nothing else?


Some of you also make the mistake to think that the division of a country where strong nationalist sentiments come into play is the same as living in a one Nigeria peacefully under the might of the federal govt?
I laugh at such naivety grin

There must be a clear partition in places where ethnic nationalities meet each other!
A place like Warri cannot coexist with the 3 different tribes intertwined as a homeland, whether in a separate country or in the same new country with autonomous ethnic regions! It is impossible. But if you guys think it is possible, then I say Goodluck.

Ijaw autonomous region or Itsekiri autonomous region must have their own well defined maritime & land boundaries defining their own rescources! Cos this time around it will no longer be Delta state maritime boundaries or rescources controlled by the FG. It is every ethnic group to his rescources and everyone will want to fight to get the largesse of the auction when the auction period begins.
A look at South Sudan should give a clue.

There must be a form of partition.
Same with rural/urban Benin where Ijaw & Benin communities intertwine. Same with Ikwerre & Ijaws in PH.

For me, I have chosen not be the overtly optimistic and naive 'all is well' person cos history will always repeat itself, time and time over again.


For my own people for example, we have 3 problematic areas where there must be a partition!

1) The Hausa fulani Kanuri land boundary

This boundary will be very bloody and we have to be prepared for a war and religious partition in this boundary, cos the Hausa fulanis are unreasonable human beings who only speak the language of VIOLENCE, they don't believe in dialogue.
The religious partition has already begun gradually and it will blow up in the next few years. This I can promise.
Infact this could be the precipitate to the division of Nigeria.


2) The Tiv- Taraba/Nasarawa boundary.

Tivs & Jukuns (Taraba)/Alagos (Nasarawa) are all middlebelt people, but unlike you naive souls, I know that we cannot live together as a people cos our values are not the same, regardless of us being Christians.
Tivs are Bantu people and expansionists by nature.
The conflicts and bad blood in that area is endless.
There must be a partion!

And we will even have this partition before the breakup of Nigeria. By next year or at least 2022, all the Tiv & Taraba elders, traditional leaders must sit down and this issue settled forever.
All the Tivs in Taraba would have to relocate to Benue and all the Jukuns in Benue would have to relocate to Taraba, leaving their ancestral homelands.
Since Taraba has more lands and Tivs more number in Taraba, we may have to cede some more lands to the Tivs for peace to reign.


3) The Egbira-Bassa-Gbayi frontier

Bassas & Gbagyis have same mentality and orientation and can easily live together, but Egburas are another people entirely.

There are up to 4 LGAs in Kogi, Nasarawa & FCT where these 3 tribes intertwine. There have been conflicts and the bad blood is strong.
Without a clear-cut partition, the war in this area will not be a joke.
All Bassas & Gbagyis must peacefully leave their ancestral lands in Koton Karfe LGA and Abaji town, while Egburas must leave Abaji rural, Toto & Bassa LGAs.
Cos without this partition, there is no way in hell, you can define Egbura, Bassa & Gbagyi homelands distinctly without encroaching into the territories of the other ethnic groups.



So, those of you including me as a prophet of doom for your 'Utopia Nigerdeltan republic of harmony' should know that I am doing this just because I have a more practical understanding of these issues and not because I am pro-Igbo or just want you people to join BIAFRA.

I personally do not support minorities being in a BIAFRA if it will be a unitary nation!
If there must be a BIAFRA with minorities involved, it will be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or even the EU model and the minorities I picture in such a union are probably not even you Southern minorities but my own people (northern minorities).

Cos I don't think any reasonable united group of people should dream of forming a country with you Nigerdeltans, cos you people are a stacked pack of cards waiting to crumble after the only glue (anti-Igbo) that holds you together no longer exists.

I will never act as a spoiler to the Biafran cause because I know that if Nigeria must divide, the rest of us must work together to realize this, after which everybody will find his way.
And those who are not prepared will be likely visited by the atrocities of Bosnia & Kosovo.

So, just as an Igbo person here suggested, you Nigerdeltans should take your Nigerdeltan republic agitation to the forefront and let it be known, so that the Igbos/Ipobs can take you people as an equal partner in the struggle and no longer subsume you.

Cos by law standards, Igbos are not wrong in including you guys into Biafran agitation, especially the Ijaws & Akwa-cross people! You people were a part of the old Eastern region which the world and UN recognize as the historical territory/agitation of BIAFRA.

If the UN & Nigeria must bring a referendum to BIAFRA, it must be on the grounds of the territories of the defunct Biafran state. Delta/Edo people are safer cos they were not officially part of the old Eastern region internationally recognized as BIAFRA.


@Ix3as
I always emphasize the fact that I am not Igbo, cos nairaland has a narrowed lense of looking and labelling everything in the Yoruba/Igbo dichotomy. Everyone who talks in a certain way is either Afonja or Igbo and you know this.

I joined nairaland around 2012 when Tribalism & seccession vibes were at an all time low and people did not feel the need to create fake monikers for impersonation.
I never for once since that time claimed to be Igbo, but a middlebelter, so I wonder why your brain should think that I suddenly turned Igbo overnight.
Go and check the threads I created since 2012 and see what they are about.
Why do you think anti-igbo sentiments are the glue keeping the minority tribes in the South South region together? So you honestly believe what is stopping the Urhobos, Ijaws, and Itsekiris from killing themselve in Warri again is because they don't like an Mbaise man from Imo State?

Why do you think anyone from a minority tribe that is against the addition of his tribe to Biafra is a spoiler?

Your thoughts on these issues will be highly appreciated. At least, we are having an intelligent conversation.
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m):
[quote author=Dogogo1900 post=89322950][/quote][quote author=Armaggedon post=89319118]Every ethnic group has that minority at the periphery who don't identify strongly with rest of their kits and kind. But then Igbo must be different and must be talked about because they are special. Even the small urhobo has okpe and isoko who reject the urhobo tag. how much more if urhobo were to be the size of Igbo. The idoma/igede/agatu is there. ijaw/nembe/ogbia is there. Ibibio/annang/efik/ekoi , ogoni/eleme is there etc. These ones I mentioned reside in one state and manage to reject sharing identity with those they see daily. you can't compare them to Igbo's carved into several states. Even among some of those in Ika who deny their igboness none reject Biafra.


For your information, the isoko tribe has come to tell the world that they are not Urhobos. So the Urhobos respect their decision and do not go about claiming the Isokos. Okpe identifies as Urhobos.


The reason why nobody will take you serious is because of your unbelievable double standards. You claim Igbos want to annex you while including other ethnic groups that share nothing with you in your audio Niger delta republic. you claim Igbo's want to dominate you while stylishly adding some Igboland into your fantasy republic. You have learnt how to use your shout of Igbo domination as a camouflage to steal delta Igbo lands. Everyone knows how the Delta state creation movement of the old delta province included Urhobo/itshekiris/isoko and ijaw forcefully attempted to annex ukwuani into their Delta state. Itsay shagay even argued that Ukwuani were more "comfortable being with them" than their Anioma brothers. They needed ukwuani apparently because of land and natural resources while arguing that the other Igbo's should be kicked into Anambra or better still remain in Edo state who they share affinity with (as if it wasn't urhobos who share affinity with Edo)

Lol. This is really hilarious. If you know anything about Delta State, you will know that many of the tribes are not even happy that aniomas ended up in Delta State.


Most of you think that the fact that you are called minority gives you the right to deny members of majority groups their own right, thus you have weaponized your minority status.

The way you guys go about shouting minority on Nairaland. Let me give you a reality check: Igbos are majority on paper only; they are actually minority in Nigeria as things stand at the moment. An Igbo man has ruled Nigeria for only 6 months. But an Ijaw man (that you guys loved to tag minority) rule Nigeria for 6 years. Now, who is the minority in Nigeria? If your much acclaimed MAJORITY is as real as the Hausas/Fulani that has been ruling the country for years now, will you guys be agitating for Biafra?

Anyone who hears you mention of how Igbo's want to do this and that will think you have heaven and earth to offer but some of you need Igbo's more than Igbo's need you.

if the non-igbo speaking MINORITY tribes in the region need the Igbos more than oxygen as you want us to believe, then the MINORITIES are supposed to be the ones attaching themselves to the Igbos, not the other way round. Of course, you should know who originated SS/SE tag. In case you don't know, it is the Igbos. Despite being rejected severally by the different groups in the region, many Igbos still go about shouting SS/SE like their lives depended on it. I thought you guys are a proud people. Where has your pride gone?


I used to criticize KANU for adding none Igbo's into Biafra until I learnt one thing -a paradox where the one thing that can make the ethnic groups of the Niger delta to join Biafra is Igbo and the one thing that can make them not to join Biafra is Igbo. The vocal minority among the Niger delta tribes who have personal issues with some Igbo's and are therefore jealous and hateful, usually use the fear of Igbo dominance to scare other tribes against Igbo. But the silent majority among the Niger Delta ethnic groups know they don't get along as individual tribes in Niger delta rather the only thing that binds them together is the Igbo.

I won't be surprised if you have never step your foot in any major cities in the South South region. That's why you believe the propangadas IPOB is dishing out. The funny thing is that there are Igbos in these cities and still yet you guys are so ignorant about the opinions of the non-igbo tribes about Biafra. Go to Warri, Benin, Yenegoa, and Port Harcourt and sample indigenes their opinions about Biafra, then you know that you are even yet to meet the real vocal minority and the hostile majority. Your brother Pazenza has told you guys to do same too. Do Igbos get along with each other too? Nor be people just kill themselves for Anambra because of land. Of course, na Fulani kill them. The Igbo man is never at fault.


urhobo for instance is hated by all the tribes in Delta for their domineering attitude. Ijaw hates them, itshekiri hates them, they don't get along with anioma. Even the urhobo themselves complain about how ijaw try to expand/grab land in the region and how they regard Niger Delta struggle as ijaw struggle, leading to ijaw getting most amnesty programme slots.

The Ibibio efik are not different but I will not spend time on them.

Ezza/Ezzilo people dey kill each other because of land. Likewise, Ikwo and Izzi. Another land dispute in Anambra state just graced front page yesterday. Anambra man feels he is superior to all the other Igbos. Ebonyi People na rags other igbos feel say them be. But on Nairaland, Igbos are perfect people. They so much love themselves that Abia state dey sack imo indigenes from their civil service.

My point is that you vocal minority have mastered a way of bullying pro Biafrans silent majority among your people. you vocal minority know how to attack Igbo's using your minority status as a weapon of emotional blackmail against Igbo's on Biafran issue. You know quite well that silent majority of Niger delta want Biafra. That is why you lots shout down the idea of referendum. I have seen folks who tell me "we no wan talk now because Biafran agitation never get head". Two of the present senators from Bayelsa come from a family that fought on Biafra side during Biafra war. They won't show their support openly but when you hear the vocal minority talk you will think Biafra is abomination in these areas.

Lol. I know quite well that Silent Majority of Niger Delta wants Biafra. Nothing we not go hear for this Nairaland. The group that represents many of the tribes in the South South don't tell una tire to remove them from your so-called Biafra, but una say una must conduct referedum for people when don publicly reject una.
Make IPOB dey deceive una. Hope you are aware that Ijaw hero fought against Biafra? Hope you know there is a day set aside as 'Boro Day' in Bayelsa State? Make IPOB dey deceive una.


You have no choice. As far as the world is concerned only IPOB is agitating for referendum now. You either campaign for your urhobo tribe and urhobo alone to join Biafra/or reject Biafra. If you reject Biafra we let you go because we won't gain a single thing from you. trust me.Just leave other tribes to decide for themselves.

Lol. I have no choice. Really? The Urhobos have already rejected Biafra. Likewise many tribes in the region. The Urhobos progress union (UPU), that is the body authorized to speak for the Urhobos, has come out to denounce Biafra openly. Please discard anybody that claims to speak for the Urhobos; he wants to scam you guys o.

Everybody will regard you as a drunkard if all you do is to type about Niger delta republic when ever IPOB makes progress on Biafra. The world only count people who stand up to demand what they want not deluded folks who can't even talk on the street about what the claim they want. You have succeeded in Blackmailing emotionally weak folks like pazienza but tough people like us will always be here to cure your type of madness which involves dragging other ethnic groups who don't want you while accusing Igbo's of same.

For your information, Biafra is as audio as a Niger Delta republic at the moment. Both do not exist. Many people believe that the Igbos are using IPOB as a ploy to get the presidency. So, Nnamdi Kanu is just running a circus show, entertaining his audience very well. I won't be surprised if AY invites him to perform in his comedy show later in the year.

Niger Delta Republic is just one of the options that the non-igbo speaking tribes will explore if Nigeria ends up dividing. So, don't work yourself up over nothing. All the concerned parties will sit at a table and come to an agreement. My issue is why you guys are so scared of the MINORITIES unifying?

The Pazienza you are calling emotionally weak is one of the few pragmatic Biafra agitators I have seen here. I liked most of his posts actually. But greed has so blinded your eyes that you cannot see the salient points he is raising.
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m): 2:15pm On May 08, 2020
Very funny thread.

PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m): 12:56am On May 08, 2020
Nowenuse:
You see, Tivs, Igalas, Idomas, Ebiras & Nupes are part of the Middlebelt, but I as a Plateau man will never want to share a country with these people if Nigeria divides. Cos I know how these people reason.
They reason just like you SS tribes.

Larger ethnic groups tend to have a stronger form of nationalism.
You see these middlebelt tribes I listed above?, they have not even had very bloody conflicts with each other like you Urhobos, Ijaws, Itsekiris or Ogonis have had with each other, yet I do not need a soothsayer to tell me that Igalas, Idomas, Igedes, Tivs & Ebiras can never ever form a country together as one people in peace.

It will never work! Cos everyone is suspicious of each other and does not trust the other.
Will the capital of such country be in Tiv land? Idoma land? Igala land or Ebira land?

See, do not mistake intra-ethnic rivalry for inter-ethnic one, they are not the same thing!
Ebiras behead each other in their clan fights in Okene, but when it comes to politics, they readily keep that aside to unite against the Igalas.
Tivs fight each other, but when it comes to fight Jukuns and steal their lands, they are united.

People of the same ethnicity can always settle their differences and live together under one political union, but it is not always so for multi-ethnic places. Especially when these tribes are very large.
But when these tribes are smaller, unity is far better and easier, that is what I was telling Blackking98 when he was laughing at Ogoja people .....But he thinks I just want to attack his AkwaIbom-Efik people.
Ogoja people can always live together under one political union in love and peace cos they are dozens of ethnic groups and they all know that they cannot do without each other.

I am even happy that many Tivs, Idomas & Igalas know that they cannot share one country with each other hence they propose their own Takururu, Apa & Okura republics. grin

Urhobos, Esans, Binis, Etsakos and even Isokos have strong nationalistic tendencies. It's not as if you people even have one language that unites you people.... I share in your optimism, but you and I know that such a union will never work.
The average Esan man is still very bitter of the fact that Benin is his state capital.
Then u think he will still agree for Benin to be his new country's capital?
Can't you see how much your own Urhobo people are so so pained that Asaba is your state capital? And u think your people will allow Benin to be a state capital again?


The best thing for your people could be a very loosed Confederacy like the UK or everyone has his country and then you form something like the EU.
Nigerdeltan republic, Midwest republic, Akwa-cross republic can never see the daylight of unity and progress.
You guys should take this from me as someone who has been into 'minorities agitation & unity' for the last 10 years.

Before, I used to think that my people can form a progressive bond or nation with the Tivs, Idomas, Igalas & Ebiras as one Middlebelt republic, but God forbid.
We have nothing in common that unites us.

But when you say Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Southern Bauchi, Nasarawa, FCT, Taraba, Adamawa, Southern Gombe & Southern Borno. We are one people with same culture, same mentality, same orientation and over 150 tribes united by Hausa language/Christian values.


What will be the uniting factor for the Nigerdelta republics? Language? Oil? Geography?
I can't even say Religion cos you people do not take Christianity as a serious identity unlike those of us in the middlebelt.


@Efe2real,. I was born in Warri.

Who owns Okere? Pessu? Aladja? Ogbe-ijoh market in Warri urban?
How do you carve out and separate Okere, Okere-Urhobo, Agbassa, Ekurede-urhobo, Ekurede-Itsekiri, Ajamimogha, Ogunu e.t.c from each other into separate regions without a war?

Let us not even talk about the Itsekiri & Ijaw towns offshore where u find one Itsekiri town surrounded by Ijaw towns and vice versa.

Hmm, I just hope and pray that God gives your leaders extreme wisdom & tolerance to conduct your affairs if Nigeria divides, because ehn your region will be a pure battleground.
When last did you hear of ethnic crises in Warri? Is Warri not even a testimony that any union with the other tribes in the region will work. There are 3 tribes in Warri, yet they have not killed themselves. Apart from 1999 crises, has any major crises occur in Warri ? Hope you are aware that the cause of the 1999 Warri crises was caused because the headquarters of Warri south west was shifted from Ogbe-Ijoh to Ogidigben? It wasn't really a matter that started from Warri itself, but it spilled over to Warri. So it wasn't cause by a land dispute; politics was the actual cause, which will be discussed and agreements can be reached.

So Y will there be a war when everybody knows their boundary.

For Itsekiris and Ijaw towns offshore, they are living in peace in Nigeria, so I don't know why anything will change outside Nigeria?
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m):
Bobonnukwu:
Because I hate double standards, on one hand you accuse the entire IGBOS of trying to force non-Igbo speaking tribes from the Niger Delta into Biafra, despite resounding rebuttals from many Igbos who have made it clear that the few unintelligent IPOB members who do that don't speak for the entire Igbos. Yet you guys still find every way to insult the Igbos (like what can you minorities put together even boast of in all indices of achievements that the Igbos haven't achieved ten times more)?, if the reason for the arrogance is oil, there's a huge reserve of oil in many Igbo speaking parts of Rivers state, including Imo and Abia states. Now my point is, I find it hypocritical that you accuse the Igbos of forcing others to join Biafra when only a minority of them do that nonsense, yet I'm seeing way too many of you trying to create a Niger Delta nomenclature without even having the respect to consult and affirm if the other ethnic nationalities in the South South actually want to form a republic or stay on their own, get my point now?

My own be say make una no go make mistake include Anioma for una Niger Delta republic, except you want another Biafran war 2.0 in your so called republic.
The Urhobos progress union (UPU), the Ijaw Youth Congress (IYC), and other socio-cultural groups representing the different tribes in the region have warned IPOB to remove them from their phantom Biafra map, yet IPOB still insist on forcing a referedum down their throats. IPOB speaks for the Igbos when it comes to Biafra issues, so until they remove the lands of people that have rejected them from their phantom map, discussions like this will keep arising. As long as there are Igbos who still want to force us to their phantom Biafra, then expect members of the minorities to keep drumming it to your ears to remove them from your phantom countries.

As for the double standards, nobody is agitating for Niger Delta republic yet and no non-igbo speaking group has come out to reject it unlike Biafra. Timing is everything. My post is just informing prophets of doom that a country formed by the non-igbo speaking parts of the south south can thrive successfully.

It is an open secret that some parts of aniomas deny that they are Igbos. So they need to decide themselves where they want to be.

And by the way, what has the Igbos achieve that minorities should start trembling and prostrating when they see an Igbo man? Has the Igbo man transform his land to London and Dubai yet? Is the East not as underdeveloped as the other parts of the country. Has the Igbo man won a Nobel price? Has any Igbo man made it to Forbe's billionaires list? Is every Igbo man a billionaire? Please, come n tell me what an Igbo man has achieved that no one else has done? One thing you guys don't know is that most of us have stayed in the East, so you guys cannot come here and paint a different picture for us.
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m): 10:24pm On May 07, 2020
Bobonnukwu:
Form a republic exclusively for your own ethnic group, stop merging unwilling ethnic nationalities into your phantom Niger Delta Republic, until the other tribes in the Niger Delta decide in one accord and voice to merge together, you are in no position to force issues on anybody that hasn't given you the permission to. Speak for YOUR tribe only, and let the others decide.
Lol. Why are u guys scared of the non-igbo speaking parts in the South South unifying and forming a country of their own if at all they choose to leave Nigeria?
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m): 10:10pm On May 07, 2020
Nowenuse:
Edoid groups worked together with Itsekiris & Aniomas to break Yoruba domination of old Western region.
How united and loving have you guys been to each other post Bendel & Delta/Edo state? That is the question.

Make no mistake, I would love to see a united Edoid nation or Nigerdeltan nation, however, growing up with you people, I have understood the way you people reason and this would be very difficult.

Actually Binis will be the problem of an Edoid nation because they will insist that the capital must be in Benin which you Urhobos & Esans will fiercely reject.
Benin people have this strong sense of superiority over other Bendelites owing to their ancient Benin empire.

So let me ask you, if there is an Edo nation today, where will the capital be? And don't tell me Benin cos you and I know that Esans & Urhobos will never allow Benin control them.

Also, if Edoids have a country, what will be the fate of Itsekiris & Ijaws? Considering how intertwined Itsekiri & Ijaw communities are with Urhobo & Benin communities. How will Warri be divided?

Infact, nothing will stop you SS minorities from going to war with each other if Nigeria divides.
Smile. You are really funny. Why have the different tribes co-existing in the South South states not burn down the states since you want us to believe they hate each other so much? Do you know that there is a land dispute between Izzi and Ikwo in Ebonyi State as recent as last year that led to the loss of lives. Not to mention the many disputes between Ezza and Ezillo in the same Ebonyi State. These are so-called brothers o killing themselves because of land. When last did you hear of any crises of tribal origin that resulted in the loss of lives and properties in the South South? If the different tribes can exist peacefully in the so-called Lord Lugard forced union according to IPOBs, why can't they do so in a Niger Delta republic that they will willingly join on their own.

For the prophets of doom, making a country comprising of the tribes in the South South is challenging, but it is not impossible. A good start is to make the center weak, create states along ethnic lines, and give each state total control of their resources. Majority of the tribes will accept to be part of such a union. Is that not what true federalism/restructuring is about?

For the point you raised about Warri, if you have stayed in Warri, you will know there are areas that belong to the Urhobos and areas that belong to the Itsekiris and Ijaws in Warri. And everyone respects their boundaries.

For the choice of capital, that can be negotiated. But if the resources of my state is not controlled by the central government and shared at the capital, I don't think I will bother much about where the capital is because it is left to me to develop my state.

We have lived peacefully with other Edo brothers in Bendel State, so we can do that again in an Edo nation.
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m):
This thread is really hilarious. It shows Nairaland is different from reality. The question I keep asking myself is that how come a tribe that you can find in every nook and cranny in this country does not know other tribes opinion about them? Anybody that have stayed in Benin, Warri, Yenegoa, and Portharcourt will know that the non-igbo speaking tribes in these states do not want to have anything to do with Biafra. But one IPOB member in Abia thinks otherwise because he thinks life starts and ends on Nairaland. Even, most of the igbo-speaking are yet to accept that they are even Igbos.

The next card that IPOB is playing is that the tribes in the South South or Niger Delta are not united. Sadly, they are right, but everything is all about negotiation and compromise. Even the so-called Igbos are not even united. Of course, anyone that has stayed in Igbo land knows Ebonyi people are the rags used to clean the ground in the South East. Most even view them as inferior Igbos or denied them as Igbos. What about the Enugu (in particular Nsukka) igbos that are viewed as 'wawa' Igbos. Of course, an anambra man will view himself as a superior Igbo compared to others. Let's not forget about the aniomas that are referred to as fake Igbos already. Imagine an ugochukwu from Anambra is referring to an Ugochukwu from Delta State as fake Igbo. SMH. But, you will see Igbos in Nairaland painting themselves like they all love themselves like saimese twins. No one should deceive anyone on Nairaland that the Igbos are united and loved themselves so much. Most of us have stayed in the East before, so we know what's up over there.

One thing people should realise is the Igbos are not different from the Hausas and Yorubas. In fact, they are even worse because of their greediness and cunny way of life. As far as I am concerned, all this Biafra agitation is just a smokescreen to control the resources of the tribes in the South South region all by themselves. Biafra with the tribes of the Niger Delta will be Nigeria all over again, but this time the Igbos will be in exactly the position they have always dreamt of: the sole controller of the resources of the Niger Delta. Most of us can see through their deceits.

I don't have any issue with Biafra as long they go with their Igbo-speaking brothers (those that want to follow them anyway). The non-igbo speaking tribes in the region will decide their fate themselves (that is even if Nigeria should stop co-existing). And personally, I think Niger Delta republic is the best bet for the tribes in the region. There, the tribes can practice true federalism and state should be created along ethnic lines and be in total control of their resources and the center should be made weak. Then, l, as an Urhobo man, will know who to hold responsible when things go bad in my state. Of course, it will not be the president because I don't have business with him. Well it is just an opinion that can be fine-tuned and worked on. But Niger Delta as a country can thrive peacefully and successfully. Biafra is a no no. I believe nobody from the south south wants Nigeria Again Part 2 to happen in Biafra except the Igbos, of course.
PoliticsRe: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by efe2real(m):
YungMillionaire:
Then tell Kanu to STOP calling Itshekiris Biafrans. We are not Igbos. We are not Biafrans. Even the Yorubas that we are most related to (by blood) in Nigeria never (out of respect) call us Yorubas. They respect our independence. The Binis who are our cultural kins also respect our independence. Imagine some Igbo man from Abia state saying he will come to Warri and conduct a referendum to ask me and my families to decide if we are Biafrans. Is he madt? Is he stupid? What is there to decide? Is like asking a Japanese to decide if he is Chinese. What kind of fvckery is that?
This is the issue I always have with the Igbos: their superiority complex. They think they are superior than others. Well, IPOB agitation has revealed that they are a lot of illiterates among the Igbos that is why a clown like Nnamdi Kanu have lots of followers.
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