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RuuDie:
Actually blame SAF... he should have just offloaded Rooney on his last day in office!

chrisley024:
Yeah, the reason why you rate O'Shea higher than Ronaldo and Messi

chrisley024:
Same way Rooney also squanders, no player has a 100% conversion rate.

chrisley024:
How many does he even create per game to start with when he prefers to always hoof it to Valencia.

chrisley024:
Rooney creates for Valencia not RvP.

chrisley024:
^^

You've got nothing else to say.

Dadehmola:

Danhumprey:
My friend,stop using Rooney's weekly wage as a point to debate. It's pure childishness. What a players earns is never a full description of his skills,workrate,football intelligence,etc.

Rooney earning that astronomical wage is quite baffling. I blame Moyes for this. He sanctioned that mammoth salary increase in a bid to tie Rooney to the club when he shoulda let him go. No player is bigger than the club!

chrisley024:
When RvP is not scoring he is assisting.
6 games with 0 goal and assist even against wee teams for the most intelligent footballer in the world .

raumdeuter:
Yes it is by medal because Muller wins a lot of individual awards in addition to team awards. How many Top scorer has Rooney won? How many best young player has Rooney won?

Muller has scored 7 league goals and has 7 assists in 1379 minutes, Rooney has 8 goals 4 assists in 1666mins (300minutes more) despite being the main dead ball taker in his team. Rooney is the definition of failure

Muller ended 5th in Ballon d or just 2 months ago, Where was Rooney?? he didnt make top 5,000

If Muller should retire today, He has already achieved more than Rooney

World cup top scorers, Klose, Ronaldo, Gerd Muller, Fontaine, Pele, Klinsmann, Thomas Muller is somewhere there

Where is Wayne Rooney? struggling with the likes of Aghahowa, Yakubu and co on 1 world cup goal

chrisley024:
What has Rooney done this time.







Well, I saw this: 'Rooney has 0 goal and 0 assist in the last 6 games'

ChristineC:
Wayne Rooney burst onto the scenes guns-blazing as a teenager, but recently, that your comment is laughable.
Wayne Rooney has declined a lot, even his hard-smash one-time volleys that was pure genius has gone extinct. It's sad!

raumdeuter:
How is Rooney better than Muller.

At 25 Muller has already achieved what Rooney would never do in his career.

Best young player at a world cup, Top scorer at world cup CL winners medal, world cup trophy

Rooney has nothing to show for over a decade of football. If Rooney were to be from another country he would be playing in Turkey

Zidane won a world cup, Champions league Serie A, La Liga and was best player of his genration

Rooney is not even best player in Europe, England, Manchester, Man United not even the best player in Man Utd attack. In his own nuclear family I doubt he is the best

raumdeuter:
You mean you dont have any basis to compare Rooney and Muller? Well Ronald scores more than Muller and he is rightfully higher rated

Unlike Rooney. No one even considers Rooney a footballer.

This is intellectual laziness at its peak

Ashley Young earns more than Iniesta, means he is better.

raumdeuter:
Maybe you should ask that apart from scoring goals what does Ronaldo do??

This statement has foolishness written all over it. A player has 10 world cup goals and 6 world cup assist at age 25 is just lucky

Lets go to CHampions league

Muller 4,300 minutes 24 goals, Rooney 6,600 minutes 29 goals

Taking into consideration that Muller has never been top striker for his club and Rooney played as top striker in his most productive season

RuuDie:
elampiro2

I am not interested in charts, stats, who played where or what and throwing verbal darts... here, I quote myself again; read what I have wrote, understand it and streamline your responses to it!

coogar:
big lie.
ronaldo was the man between 06/07 & 08/09. that was why he was 2nd, 1st and 2nd respectively in FIFA player of the year in those seasons.

roon-wetin?

coogar:
and he was räped each time on the goals/assists charts. be deceiving yourself!

coogar:
that is a monstrous lie.
provide a link where rooney's absence has given us more losses than ronaldo's absence.

coogar:
this is why he's got no golden boot or topped assist charts. what has being the captain gotta do with anything? gerrard is a captain of his club and country at a point - there were plenty of players in his club that were consistently better than him.

stats are facts & stats have proven rooney is a mediocre in scoring or assisting.

RuuDie:
Look, if Rooney or indeed any other player has to to be benched or sold just so we can bring the glory days back to UTD, then so be it!

My argument has been and will always remain, so much has changed about UTD in the last 3 seasons but Rooney has been the one constant. Maybe he is what needs to be changed for us to see some progress!
In my opinion, Moyes and LVG (initially) both a common error - making Rooney an 'unmovable' object in what should be 'transitioning' sides. Now LVG is trying to 'manage' this by trying Rooney in different positions across the field.
Chelsea has shipped out Lampard, Liverpool will soon ship out Gerrard... we may actually be better off not building the team so much around Rooney or worse still, letting him go!

coogar:
rooney played as a lead striker in at least 2 seasons at united. he didn't win the golden boot in any of the 11 seasons.



zidane is an EU-citizen.
at 25, he was already plying his trade in juventus and gracing the semis of champions league. yekini at that age was at asec mimosa.




how did i agree best players always win it. if beckham isn't even the best player in his club, how can he be the best player in the league?

logic has failed you again.




bale - 7 goals & 1 assist is better than nani that notched a total of 19 assists? you dunno your football.

dani alves is a right back....

10 league assists in 09/10
15 league assists in 10/11
11 league assists in 11/12

leighton baines is a left back....

8 league assists in 09/10
11 league assists in 10/11
8 league assists last season.

you always have an excuse for failure. kolarov, zabaleta, etc are all fullbacks and they always manage to get assists.

what's your excuse?

coogar:
ronaldo, o'shea, evra, neville, VDS all had better stats when they tabulated their presence or absence in the team.

your statistics prove nothing until you can show us the same stats of other players in the team. to prove a player is great, you have to do comparison of player to player.

coogar:
ronaldo, o'shea, evra, neville, VDS all had better stats when they tabulated their presence or absence in the team.

your statistics prove nothing until you can show us the same stats of other players in the team. to prove a player is great, you have to do comparison of player to player.




but we are adding goals and assists.
if rooney is better than RVP, his assists should compensate for his lack of goals in his support role.

if RVP got 26 goals & 10 assists, rooney should be getting 17 goals & 20 assists. that's the way it works. rooney is mediocre in scoring and even poorer in assisting.



rooney is a servant....

nani had 19 assists from the wing.....cesc fabregas has 17 assists this season already in the central midfield. rooney has no excuse. a player can assist goals anywhere on the pitch.




rooney has had 11 seasons at man utd.

he's never won the golden boot
he's never topped the assists chart.
he's never topped goals + assists chart.

rooney is a master of nothing!

coogar:
after 11 seasons of playing for man utd that has won the league 5 times in that period.....it's a disgrace rooney hasn't broken the record yet. ruud scored 150 goals for united in 5 seasons.



that was his passport age!
he was born in 1960. any 3SC fan would confirm that for you. even at 27(his fake age) as a striker, he was already past his prime. no big team would dash a non-EU player a 5-year contract at 27.

coogar:
beckham has never even been the best player in united & scholes is too camera-shy.

coogar:
nani destroyed every team that year.....
a news reporter even wrote an article about it. whoscored gave it to nani as per statistical evidence but nani isn't british so no one cared.



21 open play goals in 2200 minutes says otherwise. a premier league record.

coogar:
if you do the same for oshea, van der sar, evra, ruud, etc, you would get even better results. stop showing us what rooney did while neglecting the stats of others.

coogar:
the last time we won the league, this happened.....

coogar:
RVP rapëd rooney again. can you now see the consistency?

coogar:
no golden boot, no top assists tell me rooney is average. in rooney's best season to date, he was still bested by aguero & van persie even when we added goals to assists.

coogar:
he was at least 30 years by then.
.

coogar:
it's a popularity contest.
there's no single statistical evidence used to vote FIFA's best player. if every voter decided to say bebe is the best player, bebe would become the best player. it's that farcical!

coogar:
21 open play goals in 2200 league minutes!
it's a record in the premier league.



PFA player?
another popularity contest - the same PFA that chose bale ahead of nani in 10/11. the same PFA that chose giggs in 08/09? please - talk another thing.

coogar:
invite dayokanu to come & do what?
you and dayo are my regular lunch here. i have bludgeoned you guys more times than the ALUU-4



and di maria has done this for 9 seasons?



kagawa did this for 9 seasons?



of course, let's pretend rooney hasn't played as a striker at all this season. it makes a good argument.

clueless man!



falcao & RVP have played as a striker in all the games they have played this season. di maria was a CM last season at madrid. mata has played other positions for chelsea - it still does not excuse rooney's mediocrity for 11 seasons.



occasion warranted nada!
SAF knew rooney wasn't as good as his peers in the other teams. he even left him out against madrid - the biggest game in SAF's final season.




........at everton!

coogar:
no golden boot, no top assists tell me rooney is average. in rooney's best season to date, he was still bested by aguero & van persie even when we added goals to assists.


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he was at least 30 years by then.



it's a popularity contest.
there's no single statistical evidence used to vote FIFA's best player. if every voter decided to say bebe is the best player, bebe would become the best player. it's that farcical!



21 open play goals in 2200 league minutes!
it's a record in the premier league.



PFA player?
another popularity contest - the same PFA that chose bale ahead of nani in 10/11. the same PFA that chose giggs in 08/09? please - talk another thing.