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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 1:36pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
clueless man!
dayokanu stole raumdeuter name from müller. you don't even understand anything at all.
You were stylishly inviting him to come rescue you. grin

You know know wetin you enter today. cheesy Today is free day here to collect voter's card. So you know exactly what you are into now. Yori Yori.

coogar:
it's one thing to juggle the ball with skills, it's another thing to transform the skill into an end product. if those ball jugglers have any end product, they would be in barca, madrid or united.......not at the side-streets of surulere.
the only individual award for strikers who know where the net is. there's no politics in it like popularity contest. it doesn't need any judges or fraudulent polls. if you score the highest number of goals, you win the boot - period!
if rooney was a mercurial striker & an expert in his role, he wouldn't be removed from scoring to tackle opponents or be used as a bull. SAF knew rooney is average, that's why he bought RVP/chicha and rooney was reduced to a bull - doing a job known to players like alex song, tiote, toure, wanyama, etc
You don't know soccer. Why is Di Maria now striking for us? Has he ever been a prolific goal scorer? The best creator is now a striker.

Why was Kagawa played in the wing by SAF? You can never coach a team. I bet you.

Rooney is doing the job of Wayanma yet he has 8 goals and 4 Assists for us. RVP has only 9 goals playing one position.

coogar:
you mean you have seen VP & falcao playing as a central midfielder? stop watching your football from a calabash. grin
cup competitions are a farce!
not every team gets to play the same number of games. if ronaldo's team gets eliminated in the first round, that's it for him. your team has to go all the way to have a chance of claiming the golden boot in most cases.
the league is 38 games for everyone.
there's no excuse apart from injuries and rooney featured more times than berbatov at united. how come berba managed the feat and rooney never struck gold in 11 seasons? abeg - rooney is a master of nothing!
Tell me Falcao has ever played like this before. And RVP, Mata and Di Maria too. Occasion wanrranted Rooney to always rescue us in the middle of the park. First Kean was gone and we were left with soft Scholes and Carrick. Then Hargreaves left. So SAF needed someone to always keep an eye in the middle of the park.



Rooney is a legend.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 1:24pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
this is immaterial!
rooney is not an expert goalscorer or a goalmaker.



owen win ballon d'or.
henry was 2nd or 3rd for several seasons. so rooney came 5th in a popularity contest.
Rooney is an expert in goal scoring. He is the best number 10 in the history of EPL.

Fifa footballer of the year. Owen never made top three sef.

coogar:
who is in a better club has other factors ranging from age, injury history, etc. yekini was past his prime when he moved to europe. ikpeba was a young lad when he moved to europe. not anyone can score goals or make assists.

the only reason there has been a duopoly in ballon d'or awards is the sheer number of goals ronaldo & messi keep scoring season after season even when they don't win UCL or the world cup. this is why strikers are often chosen as best players in the world.
Yekini went to Europe in 1990. He had not even got to his prime.

On FIFA best player, it's about being a complete footballer. This is why hyena's like Inzaghi and Nistelrooy couldnt come up no matter how UCL and local goals they may have scored, when Figo, Cannavaro and Zidane could win it.


coogar:
he was never in the box.
berbatov was a target man. he receives passes with his back to goal, wait for the runners to fly past him and he makes a diagonal pass to the flank for valencia or nani to ping in a cross.

in a nutshell, rooney has never top the assist charts in 11 seasons at old trafford or top the scorer's charts. he's not a clinical striker abd he's not an excellent goalmaker. he's an average player in those 2 roles.

even if i add goals to assists, rooney still comes short of many top players in the premier league.



cup competitions like carling cup & club world cup cannot be considered. not every team gets to play the same number of games in such settings. in the league, all the teams get to play 38 games each and rooney has never won the golden boot in 11 seasons. no excuses!!!
Berbatov was always in the box. Just that he is lazy. grin

Golden boot is nothing. Rooney has won PFA player of the year. He is rated very high in the world. He is king. The only one who SAF refused to let go even when SAF hammered Beckham (English), Stam, Kean (English).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 1:09pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
müller is 5000 times more intelligent than rooney. that's why he's called raumdeuter. he's the master of time & space. a task rooney is clueless about.
Muller is just an opportunist. Same way Chicha was an opportunist in Man United. Everyone else work for them when they play. That was how Berba scored 20 league goals (then FA pitied him with one more).

If you like call raumdeuter, dayo won't call and rescue you today. grin

coogar:
this is you shooting yourself in the foot!
minus the statistics, rooney is even worse. be cannot pass, he cannot dribble & he has the first touch of clifford orji.
If you want to see people who can do first touch and all that, go to half time break at Surulere stadium, you will see ball jogglers. We are talking about footballers not ball jogglers. When Amokachie and Amuneke helped us to olympic gold medals, they were not ball jogglers or stats men.

coogar:
and yet he's never won the golden boot in 11 seasons at old trafford. specialist goal scorer my white bütt!
What is golden boot? He was always used to defend and play in the wing ans midfield. This is why those who know soccer voted him EPL player of the year, won the 5th best player in the world.


coogar:
that's exactly the point!
rooney can do everything but he's not special at any thing. would SAF ask silva or messi to mark a player? rooney gets all those roles because he's average at his primary role. someone else is always deemed better than him in any role he finds himself.
They are idomies. This is why you cannot be a coach. A coach look at the overall team and apportion responsibilities. You also look at your team shape. United shape required someone to be a bull for us over the years. Once Rooney stopped being a bull, we got exposed.

Now Falcao is required to mark and tackle. Something he has never don all his life. Same with Di Maria, Mata, etc. Even hyena RVP is now a tackler. Ukwu!

coogar:
the best strikers under SAF....

van nistelrooy
van persie.

the best number-10 under SAF...

paul scholes
Rooney is better than all of them in the number 9 and number 10. Which of them got selected as world 5th best? Which of them won UCL highest Assists? Which of them won world best player in the world club cup and highest goal scorer there? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:56pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
90% of the teams top strikers face are riff-raff teams. it's no excuse. even sometimes, riff-raff teams pose bigger problems than the so-called big teams. arsënal find it easier to kill spurs than stoke. every goal is weighted the same in the league.
ed rooney.
But Rooney scores against big teams both locally and in Europe.

coogar:
s rooney falls short against the best strikers in the league and he also falls short against the best goal makers in the league.
Rooney is the best in both. Tell me any EPL player who became 5th world best as a striker?

Anyone can score goals or Assists, but what you do before you score and assists is what makes you a great footballer. The reason Ikpeba was in a better club than Yekini. The reason Hazard and Robben are rated so highly. Football is not about figures in a computer.

coogar:
berbatov's passing route was to valencia that season. valencia f
rooney is an average goal maker and an average goal scorer. rooney is a jack of all trade, master of none. grin
Berbertov was always in the box sometimes playing higher than Rooney. Don't tell us Berba was playing diagonal passes. grin

Rooney is best! Chikena.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:44pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
with rooney's disgusting conversion rate, you cannot trust him to score one on one chances even if he wasn't brought down. rooney is jack of all trade, master of none.


when rooney scored 26 goals in 09/10, only 4 were penalties but it took him 2,700 mins to score 22 non-penalty goals. compare that rate to berbatov in 10/11 and rooney falls short yet again.

rooney - jack of all trade, master of nowt! grin
How many goal did Berba score in Europe where the competition is stiff. He is always a failure against big teams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:40pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
27-6 = 21(rooney) in 2830 mims
21-0 = 21(berbatov) in 2208 mins

so rooney had close to 630 league mins(7 full matches) on berbatov and still he couldn't outscore berbatov? grin

with rooney's disgusting conversion rate, you cannot trust him to score one on one chances even if he wasn't brought down. rooney is jack of all trade, master of none.
Goals he scored against riff rarf teams. If Rooner were to be the one getting more minutes with riff raff teams, he would score 32 league goals. And if Berba is given much time against big teams he would only score 12 goals.

When Berba scored these goals Rooney supported the process with 11 Assists that season. But when Rooney scored 26, Berba could only Assist with 5.

Lazy Berbatov.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:21pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
berbatov won a golden boot(no penalties)
when rooney scored 27 EPL goals, about 7 of his goals came from penalties & he spent more minutes on the pitch.

point proven again - rooney is a jack of all trade, master of nothing. grin
Rooney only scored 6 of the 27 goals from penalty. When he scored 26 goals, only 4 were from penalties.

I have also proven before that Rooney won many of those penalties. Meaning he would have scored them ordinarily if not brought down in the box
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:17pm On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
rooney is a poster boy for man utd & england. beckham earned more money at united and he wasn't even amongst the 5 best players at united. skills doesn't always translate to money - ashley young earns twice as much as tomas müller, young must be better than müller then.
* Apart from scoring goals, what does Muller do? He is only lucky to be in team that favour him. Someone would see Suarez at Barca and say, this guy shouldn't earn higher than Kane of Tottenham.

A player's overall play is what makes a footballer, not statistics. If it were stat, Yekini would have landed in England before Amokachie. Sasia and Ikpeba still played in a better club than Yekini. People who played football judge it differently from what it's in the computers and prints.

coogar:
they cannot score goals cos their speciality/expertise is goal-making.....which is exactly the point that brought us here. if we list rooney alongside specialist goal scorers too, he comes short.
Rooney is a specialist goal scorer when used as a striker. The only time he has been used consistently as a striker, he delivered both local and Europe even with in juries that plague him that season. He became the EPL player of the year and finished 5th in the world.

How many of those specialists have been used to carry out defensive duties while playing in the number 10 or wing? Even as 10, Rooney was asked to mark Essien. In UCL finals he was to do defensive even though he was a forward. Wetin! This is why he earns 250k+

coogar:
in a nutshell, rooney is an average goal maker and an average goal scorer. he's not an expert in any of the 2 parameters. which further reinforced my point that he's a jack of all trade, master of none. cheesy
Rooney is the best striker and best number 10 Man United has had during his time. SAF said he didn't always play him in striking role because of extra duty needed to do in the deep and because of his young age. The first time Rooney challenged SAF, he immediately became the best player in the EPL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:58am On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
yes, schalke & roma play in the premier league. so in 12 seasons at old trafford....playing alongside some of the most fearsome strikers in the world, your excuse for rooney is that he often gets substituted?

berbatov got substituted more than rooney in 10/11 and still won the golden boot. it's about being clinical in front of goal - not the excuse you are pulling out. rooney is neither a goal machine or a top goal-maker. he's the jack of all trade, master of none.
There are countless matches Rooney got rested in the EPL ahead of important matches.

Is Berbatov a footballer? Mteew. Has Berba scored 27 EPL goals? Has he won the EPL player of the year?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:55am On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
why should we put goals?
you said rooney is the best number-10 in the league. number-10s don't score too many goals, they make goals. look at the names on the list........cesc, mata, silva, gerrard, lampard. those are the generals. wayne rooney is an apprentice either in goalscoring or making goals.
Exactly why Rooney is rated higher than them and also earns higher. They cannot score. Rooney scores and makes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:27am On Feb 05, 2015
How does one win a golden boot when he is often rested in cheap games ahead of big and important games. Sometimes he get substituted when the deal is done early.

When we beat Schalke 04 two nil in Germany, Rooney was substituted once he had scored and provided an assist. He was rested in the return leg. Same happened vs Roma. There are countless like that in EPL.

Most plays who won golden boot do so mainly scoring against weak teams and alowed to completed 90mins even if it's 7-0 at half time. They mostly play one position and centrally.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2:
coogar:
premier league assists

07/08 assists
19 - fabregas
17 - ashley young
13 - rooney
11 - berbatov
11 - gerrard

08/09 assists
11 - van persie
10 - berbatov
10 - fabregas
10 - gerrard
10 - lampard

09/10 assists
17 - lampard
15 - fabregas
13 - drogba
12 - milner
10 - ashley young, nani, anelka, lennon

10/11 assists
18 - nani
15 - drogba
14 - fabregas
11 - rooney, ashley young, arshavin, baines
09 - david silva

11/12 assists
17 - david silva
14 - valencia
13 - mata
12 - adebayor
11 - bale, alex song

12/13 assists
13 - mata, hazard
12 - cazorla
11 - rooney, walcott
10 - van persie, podolski
09 - david silva, gerrard

13/14 assists
14 - gerrard
13 - suarez
10 - rooney, silva, lambert
09 - ozil, toure
08 - nasri.
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from the stats above, how can rooney lay claims as the best playmaker in the PL when he has been bested by all & sundry season by season. even out & out strikers like RVP topped assist charts & drogba/suarez/berbatov have all notched the second spot.
Put goals beside the assists and we sum the ground total.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:09am On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
because he's english & he's england's best player. not playing him will not help england and the endorsements.

however, when you consider the matters on the pitch, rooney is nowhere the best striker in the premier league or the best number-10 in the premier league.
Januzaj = Belgium
Zaha = English
* and you even claimed Zaha was better.

Neville = English
Rafael =Brazil
* Rafael benched Neville even when Neville was not. done yet.

How many more English players/Strikers have been rejected by clubs at expense of foreign players. Sturridge Lalana, Lambert were all benched by top clubs at expense of foreign players.



* Did Mouriho, PSG, Madrid and Barca also were interested in him because he is English? Ukwu!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2:
RuuDie:
It is funny you are only just realizing this now... I kept trying to point this out during the Moyes' tenure; that we should take advantage of Rooney's "versatility" so that we would be able to use Kagawa/Mata more as #10 - but of course, as usual, you saw it as "Rooney-hating"!

Well... na our elders talk am say, "wetin old man siddon ontop stool see... ... ..."
* I don't think you guys meant he needed to sacrifice for the benefit of the team. It was more like you guys saying Rooney is not even a number 10. Then I kept asking where he had played all these years that he has been so rated highly and won titles?

* Also,the difference now is that we have Di Maria and Falcao who are at their peak. Someone really need to sacrifice for them.

Generally, I noticed a criminally high level of ingratitude to a man who had served this club so well with dedication. This was what I noticed when I came here. I never was 50% a Rooney fan as this thread had propelled or instigated me to (as I his fan today). I liked him same way I like a number of players, but I knew Rooney was a special member of the team who gave opposition headache. That important member of the team who SAF rested in small matches ahead of big and important games. But I didn't think I was much his fan more than I was to Vidic and a few more players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 10:20am On Feb 05, 2015
coogar:
rooney is not better than nani or januzaj from the flanks. i would even choose di maria or mata ahead of rooney in that role as well.

rooney is a jack of all trade - master of none. as a top striker, no golden boot in 12 seasons. as a number-10, he's never topped assists in the league for 12 seasons.

that says it all!
How did he manage to get into first 11 all these years if he weren't a master of none? Masters of none are usually reduced to squad roles.

How did he win the EPL player of the year and world 5th best player?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2:
Zonal marking tactics told us that Rooney dropped into the midfield and occupied Essien when United were without the ball. There was a Carrick vs Lampard contest throughout the match while Giigs kept an eye on Ramires.

In the second half as Chelsea looked for equalizer, ZM has it that Rooney had more freedom to operate from counter attack and it was proving risky for Chelsea. Late in the game, Mikel came on and Essien went to the right back, Rooney moved to the left to occupy Essien while JS Park was moved to the middle.

Why I am bringing this. If it were now, people would write on this thread during the match that Rooney was dropping too deep and didnt understand the number 10 role. Whereas that was the coaches's tactics. And only Rooney could do such a job. And he got two balls inot the net on the night, only that one stood. The second was in after the ref whistle had gone.

Another thing I saw in that ZM analysis was that Valencia dropped to the number 2 position to replace Rafael who got injured as Nani came on. ZM said Valencia did a very good job there. E don tey Valencia.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 11:20pm On Feb 04, 2015
1. SAF also admitted that in 2007/2008, Rooney sacrificed himself so much for the team. "He was played wide and in other positions" SAF said.

2. SAF went on to also say in the UCL final in Moscow, Rooney was playing well but when Chelsea took over control, Man United went completely to three midfielders in the second half to stem Chelsea's threat, and that nullified Rooney's threat. SAF said that was hard for the lad.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 10:58pm On Feb 04, 2015
I wanted to provide the comprehensive interview where SAF spoke about Rooney's position. It was very detailed. But spambot banned me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:19am On Dec 26, 2014
dopeJemi:
Falcao gets bullied off the ball? That's a blatant lie, Falcao is stronger on the ball than van persie

Him being benched for wilson isn't because of poor performance

You just saw the stats
My guy, he gets bullied. If you want me record then here in matches, I can.

As for the stat. Abeg forget it. A player who comes in after we have won matches and oppositions have thrown defensive caution to the wind. Or when we needed to press badly in the last minutes to get a winning goal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:14am On Dec 26, 2014
Odunharry:
he wasnt benched cos he has been poor...it the fitness issue
It's not yet time to bring out Falcao stats. Time will come we compare him with Messi. But for now, na mgedefede appearance and play.

What you have done now is the mistake people used to make comparing Chicha's (usually a late substitute) stats to other forward players. Man United naturally open up opponents more in the last minutes of games.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 5:51pm On Dec 25, 2014
Few days ago, I saw some matches of 2008/9. Rooney had always been sacrificed for defensive roles when United needed to protect Evra (or midfield) and protect a lead.

Some For insance, in the second half of 2009 UCL knockout against Inter Milan at OT, Rooney was withdrawn from second striker role to the left wing, playing more like an overlapping semi left back. It was from this role Rooney gave an intelligent assist for CR7 to score the second goal. Ronaldo, Giggs and Berbaov became our advanced forward players in the second half.

But looking at stat in retrospect, one wouldn't understand what roles players played in the course of the season. Only the coach and team mates sometimes appreciate it for long time to come. The children just learning football will make wrong comparisons.

In 3 years to come, someone would compare Valencia's stats with Navas, Milner, William,Welbeck as wing players. Similar reason Val stat would be disadvantaged since 2011/12 season or even earlier.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 5:20pm On Dec 25, 2014
Odunharry:
Falcao is more effective than all our strikers when on the pitch..hmmm

Over the average of 90 minutes,
Rooney, Van Persie and Falcao could
barely be separated in terms of goal
scored. Rooney and Van Persie have
averaged 0.48 goals per 90mins,
while Falcao is pretty much level on 0.47.
The Colombian takes the lead in terms of Performance Score, though. He has averaged 43.23 every 90mins, with Rooney second on 33.1. Youngster James Wilson has actually averaged -9.91 which is not great, but does leave plenty of room for improvement

Falcao also leads in the key passes
column, too, averaging 1.4 passes per 90mins. And Rooney, who only trails Angel Di Maria in total, comes second behind Falcao’s high average with 1.28.

Again, Falcao leads in the assists department with an average of 0.47
per 90mins. Rooney again comes
second at 0.24.

In terms of off-the-ball work, James
Wilson stands out, and that is probably why he is being given so many chances by Van Gaal. Wilson has averaged the most successful tackles (1.05), aerial duels (1.41) and interceptions (1.05) out of any of the four strikers available to Van Gaal.
How is Rooney a striker for us?
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2: 10:43pm On Dec 23, 2014
prettyboi1989:
Guy u are contradicting yourself o, cos u are still saying the same thing which is supporting the okada man's action. u are sayn the man hitting the woman was right, u dnt wana look at the fact that the guy cheated the woman by first asking for money from takeoff point before getting to the destination and also not taking the woman to where she wanted.
How did I contradict myself?

Secondly, you only read the woman's account. What if she was the one who was wrong? Perhaps she didnt tell the okada man her true destination from the onset.

prettyboi1989:
Then the guy tried taking off that's when she pulled his cloth before finally holding him on his johns. Ya'll are supporting fraud. No wahala keep it up, don't cry when som1 dupes u ok and when you try and challenge d person u get slapped on the face don't cry too.
This does not justify what the woman did. What she did was an attempted murder. You can not want to kill your fellow human being for common naira and kobo. Would you support someone taking a machet against you at the slightest provocation?
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2:
prettyboi1989:
U are the biggest retarrd because if the okada man hadn't tried to play a fast one on the woman this wouldn't have occurred. Is common sense scarce these days or wat?
Its dumbazz niggas that will allow themselves to be cheated on and still stare without doing nothing.
1. How are you sure the woman is not telling lies against the okada man?

2. Let's reverse it. Would you be happy watching a boy dragging and pulling the bre.ast of a girl during fight even when the girl was wrong in a minor quarrel? Or you see a boy dipping hands under woman's skirt mutilating the v*ginal with his fingers and hands? Or to take the point home, you see a boy kicking repeatedly the belly of a girl? You don't go for sensitive parts and sex organs during fights. You ruin the other person by making him/her impotent. Or even death cold occur.

The above is nothing compared to what the pregnant woman did to the okada man. Forget about about disagreement they had. The woman should never have done that. So any slight disagreement you carry a sledge hammer to hit your rival?
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2: 11:12am On Dec 23, 2014
Elantracey:
I had to read the op again and that's not the case .
My sister, you read the account of the the pregnant woman who boarded okada (Feyisara) as narrated by Mama Bola who listened to her side of the story.

If you were a judge, you would give judgment or conclude based on a one sided story?

Elantracey:
Yea some things are really not worth it like just taking her to her destination instead of acting greedy .
I guess the okada is human, he would have taken her there if the woman were polite or friendly. Men are soft to women, particularly pregnant women. She could have seen another okada to take her there free sef, from where the other okada stopped. It depends on approach.

Elantracey:
Lol , I know that .



yes na cheesy
You see. So why did the woman rape the okada man? lol cheesy
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2: 10:52am On Dec 23, 2014
Elantracey:
In this case its different , she paid fully and he bluntly refused to take her to her destination , is that no breach of agreement?
She paid fully but she wanted to be taken farther than the place she initially described to the okada man.

Elantracey:
My dear it matters , there are moments when just 10# could mean a whole lot for example you want to get a 100# voucher and you have just 90# will you get o buy?
.
Then you think the best option is to attempt to murder for N10 or N100? And put your family in a great stress while you are at the mercy of the law? The unborn child would have to be nurtured in prison? Family members wailing.... meh some things are not worth it.

Elantracey:
The other woman acted plainly foolishly but in this case she just want to get to her destination and that's it , am not saying she did the right thing but it would be wrong to cast her off like that .
Since I wasn't there, I cant possibly conclude the okada man was wrong in their negotiation. Some women are really hard to deal with.

Another dimension to this issue is that, if it were the other way round, you women would be shouting rape, rape, assault, assault..... cheesy
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2: 10:42am On Dec 23, 2014
xtervaganza:
Some women need a shot of reality.



Why grab his weiner? She's one of those women who make life a hell for their hubby.


Perhaps she was trying to cheat the Okada man.



And people here talking crap about the Okada man like it's easy for the guy too, she could have caused him great pain if he didn't push her away like he did



Idiot!

People don't consider this possibility. It's even possible the Okada man had tried for her taking her beyond where she described before boarding. This kind of woman would be a naturally devilish woman. Sorry to say.
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2: 10:32am On Dec 23, 2014
dublinkmy6:
If the scriptures should be followed (deuteronomy 25:11) her hand should be missing by now.
Deuteronomy 25:11-12

If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.


grin
CrimeRe: Okada Rider Beats Pregnant Woman To Coma For Grabbing His Crotch by elampiro2: 10:29am On Dec 23, 2014
Elantracey:
No there wasn't but there was a bridge of agreement and what will call that ,
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How do you know there was a breach of an agreement? Where you there? The one that happened in Benin last December that the man died, the woman was at fault. She refused to pay the normal fair of N40, yet she killed the man in similar circumstance that is reported in this case. Many women are usually impossible and at same time seek sympathy.

Elantracey:
do you whether what 1 million means to you is what that money met to her ?
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It doesn't matter. This is a case of N100 or thereabout. N100 can never be N1m.

Elantracey:
Don't be so sure dear ,you've not met situations that you might not even have time to think before you act and I think she might not have known the implication of what she did.
Too bad then. We should learn to control our anger because it can lead one to the hang man. The woman that killed in such manner in Benin should be full of regret now for over a year.

Why should anyone attack another so dangerously when she was not attacked?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:50am On Nov 27, 2014
Let me rework and try posting, if spamboat hit elampiro2. Na im com know. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro2: 12:43am On Nov 27, 2014
Chelsea players, up to Costa, Fabrgas and Oscar have a high tackling record. Also a high clearance record. May be that's the main reason why they are difficult to break down.

In Man United, Mata has the worst tackling stat. His interception is the worst too.

Man United better in interception that Chelsea.

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