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pls i want to have ur phone number
there is a cafe u have to help me set up
if possible this week b/w 27 and 31 of may 2013
u can reach me on 08033453810, 08129999293
pls call me since i dont have ur numbers.
regards
sunny e.o
for: elosok ventures

moscovite: @quest

Sorry I haven't been following this thread for quite sometime. I would have replied you promptly. Seems I have to come here often because of people like you.
Obviously you know little about the way the system works. I don't blame you because it took us over 6-8 years to work out the perfect network and configuration to drive these systems seemlessly in a cafe environment. 

Let me tell you THE TRUTH, since you have demanded it. I will tackle the questions you raised one after another and number them the same way you did.

1. Why should they jump into it. If you have been driving an S-Class all your life do you suddenly jump into piloting a plane. Abi what kind of statement is that. I have giving arguments why thin clients is far far better. I think it is the other persons responsibility to make sure he fully understands it well before delving into it. This is done on individual basis. Different people already know they don't need a Pentium 3  so they ask other questions. Am i suppose to already know all their questions and write on everything here. I am not God and your statement need not make me think i should be and write everything in the world about thin client. You could have chipped the "DONT USE Pentium 3" bit in yourself for the dumb ones who want to start piloting a plane after going to driving school. 
You also need not attack the person. Attack and counter the debate or message. 

2. You have not employed me to lecture everyone on thin client. If you are trying to get more on what you don't know you need not do it so negatively. Admit you don't know, call and let's talk. I have my own work. I am not going to start spending hours upon hours on Nairaland just because a Quest is trying to get information and going about it negatively. I can say there are a lot of timer out there. Do your research yourself quest. Do a little bit of work. I have laid down the principles why you HAVE to use thin clients in cybercafes now. I have 15 of them and have done for a lot more all over the country. As I am writing I have 6 deployments to do this week. So pls don't patronize or deceive others that in cafe business Pentium 4 systems is still the way to go.

3. Quest, if i unleash my experience here on this 3rd question you will definitely feel embarassed at the question. It will be obvious you are trying to score cheap. First and foremost, a sever suddenly shutting down is different from it going down(spoiling).

Case 1: COMPUTER SHUTDOWN.(Most times because of power):

 If it shuts down then everyone losses his/her work on the Ram but not saved ones on the hard drive. This is true for both normal cafe systems and thin client systems.
In this case thin client technology comes tops. Why? If you have a 20 PC system cafe, you will require 21 very good UPS to avoid such problem so that your customers will retain their RAM based work.(20system +Server)
In thin Client technology you need only 1(One) very good UPS to achieve this. 
Is there any comparison. 1 to 20.
The lesson this teaches, and which I tell my client always is "The Server is the only thing you have to watch over-JUST ONE COMPUTER" If you are so careless that you can't take very very good care of one computer then get out of the business. SHIKENAH!

CASE2: COMPUTER SPOIL

 When a computer goes bad it goes off. So in any case everyting on the RAM is lost.  In the case of thin clients everything not saved at that moment is lost.Same as normal PC. But, unless the hard drive is the cause of the sudden problem, everything saved on the drive remains. So UNLESS the Hard drive irretrievably crashes everyone can retrieve all their saved materials, be it in a thin client environment or normal system.
 If the hard drive crashes then no one can retrieve anything. But then, studying a cafe environment their are factors that makes it quite different from an office environment or a school one and still makes thin client comes top.

First and foremost, a cafe is a public place. Most people will not store their important or private files on the system. Equally, Anybody that stores files out there should expect not to meet it sometimes because Cafes do format their systems all the time. So really, from a policy point of view a customer is not expected to store very important files on the system. I havent heard of any cafe that sends sms out to its customers that they want to format system number 12 so everybody should come and remove their files from it. In actual fact most sensible cafes use deepfreeze which does not allow any storage unless you create a deepfreeze-free partition. So, really cafe goers bring their flash drive. That is why we make sure servers prepared by us for thin clients accept flash always. 
If you look at it from this policy point of view it really doesn't matter if the hard drive crashes in a cafe environment.

Experience have shown that hard drives don't spoil that easily. Some of my thin clients cafe have been running for 3-4 years without a HDD change. The minimal I know is 2 years.

In any case, since thin clients all depend on one Server, then have a standby replica of your thin client server tucked away in a corner. Ever heard of "Redundant Severs"?. 
So, Immediately one goes down, within three minutes you are up and running again. You can then go and change what went wrong in the first server and put it aside as redundant or change it back the next day. 

4.

I don't know what thin clients you use but I havent seen an antivirus that stops my thin clients from functioning properly and I have used so many different ones until i settled for the ones that suited me. I think you must definitely be doing something very very wrong. 
So I haven't seen. Maybe if you tell me about your case I could actually point out what you are doing wrong.
Let me also say, that if you are the type that runs all those CDs before your thin client can run on an XP or non-Server based windows then off course the anti-virus may see some files on those CDs as virus. I don't use those CDs. I tried the NComputing ones in the past and had to abandon it because of it's many wahala when it comes to cafe. Most Chinese ones are made likewise. 

Secondly, it is obvious you are a bloody novice in cafe or a non-progressive cafe owner. Since when has anti-virus been so important to a cafe. The experienced ones know that anti-virus is a decoration in Cafes and most experienced Cafes dont even use it. They are more a menace than a helper in the business.

I have anti virus in some of my Cafes because some of my attendants feel comfortable to have them. Some don't have because they delete people's important files on their flash. So, it depends. To me they are mere decoration. They are worthless. A lot of my experience cafe-owner customers tell me to remove them. 

5.Mr. Quest. Just because you don't know much about a technology doesn't mean you should disparage it. Take a cue from lessons of old where the Church and the Powers that be believed that you will fall off at the end of the earth and crucified scientists for saying the world was round. Today we know better.

yes bro it can handle a cafe of 28 systems and even more

can it handle a cafe of 28 computer systems?

this is the internet system i have been looking for

u need to see this
unwired has been the ISP of year since 2006

I will like to be your dealer. How do I go about it
Thanks

I think unwired internet system is the best as they claim because I have tested it and find that it is extra fast and to an extent reliable.
Just keep it up

holyprof:
Buy this modem at your own risk, have not enjoyed this service since the purchase last week monday, it keep rebooting itself and service keep fluctuating, the worse part is that the moment you buy the modem then nobody cares about you, i have spent over 2500 in airtime credit call their customer support for a period of 6 days,  but they will never come to you or rectify the problem, i finally paid 30k for swift today because it is far more reliable no fluctuations or rebooting of modem,  But if you feel like wasting or experimenting with 14,700 naira then Unwired 4g is the way to go.

I am always surprise when someone complains of this extra ordinary fast modem, this stuff has been working for me as mad, i mean click and go! pages opens as if i am flipping through a book.
Anyway i am not disputing you, it could be where you are staying. Did you bother to change the location of the rafter if you are using the the wireless type?

westerlab2:
Bros na Olat for Isashi,  Thanks for the Installation. You guys are the best in my Area. Thanks Unwired!!!!

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u are a man
and very big thanks to you bro

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