European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 9:28pm On Jan 24, 2017 |
Spy360: I agree with most of what you mentioned. But not all...
Sweeper keeper is a variation of the GK position. Just as wingback is a variation of the fullback position. That's the difference between Hart and Bravo.
Central midfield is split into attacking and defensive.
When teams played 4-4-2, they employ just one CDM and one CAM. Current formations (4-3-3 and 4-5-1) employ either two CDM or two CAM. In most cases it is the former where one of the CDM is the runner or box to box as some prefer to call it.
So invariably, a box to box is still a DM per se. While the holding DM waits to break up play, the box to box guy hassles the opponent, some times chasing the ball to the GK.
As for Pogba, I have seen him play all CM positions for United. Recently, he has been deployed more as a CAM referred to as a 10. Typical as Ramsey, he plays holding DM or box DM, he can even play as an AM as he does for Wales.
So there is a 10 in a 4-3-3.
............................. De Gea ......................... Valencia ... Jones .. Rojo .. Darmian .................. Carrick .. Herrera ................. ............................ Pogba ........................... Mkhi .................... Ibra ............. Martial Ogbeni, the GK position has no variation, abi you don see DGK and AGK before  "Sweeper keeper" as you call it is rather a player attribute or style not a GK position e.g as found in Neuer, "comedy keeper" is the same too e.g Bravo when you deploy a 4-4-2 not a variant as in "diamond" you'd be fielding at least two CMs and zero 10. Ogbeni in a 4-3-3, you are primarily playing a DM and two CMs (RCM and LCM) no CAM. The formation you depicted below is 4-2-1-3 a variation, not 4-3-3 itself. Hope you understand? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 5:34pm On Jan 24, 2017 |
Spy360: In a few years time,
Rooney would be coach of Man United.
Gerrard, coach of Liverpool.
Lampard, coach of Chelsea.
Who would be coach of Arsenal? Gilberto Silva (my best Assenal midfielder ). |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 5:33pm On Jan 24, 2017 |
Spy360: A 10 is a central attacking midfielder.
From what I see United play, Pogba plays as a 10 most times.
For example, I saw the game against Liverpool, Pogba started as the CAM. When Rooney came in, he dropped into CDM to pair with Herrera.
Sometimes, a manager may even play a double 10.
Midfield Positions:
Central Defensive- holding, box to box.
Central Attacking- playmaker
Wing Attacking- wingers of which there are different types nowadays.
Most recently we now have Deep Lying Playmakers as made popular by Pirlo.
Football is evolving and new formations and positions are introduced. Some are even confusing and a mixture. For example, Wingbacks and Sweeper Keepers (popularised by Neuer).
So just keep yourself abreast and follow the trend. Bro, in a 4-3-3 which Mou deploys most times there is no 10 for Pogba to man,except occasionally when he goes with a 4-2-3-1. Deep Lying Playmaker, Sweeper keeper, are not positions per se buh rather playing attributes or styles of either a DM,CM and GK respectively. Formations have become dynamic that you can have 2 Players at the base of a team's midfield in the pre match lineup as DMs, buh in reality only one functions as the DM while the other is a CM (in this case a b2b ). I guess that was what eph12 was tryna explain to KokaneNobody. Same way you have Poachers in attack , Sweepers, instigators in Defence ,midfield dynamos,maestros and conductors in MF. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:45pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 8:41pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Spy360: So what does he play He plays as a RCM or LCM alongside Herrera,with Carrick as the pivot; there's no 10 in a 4-3-3 bro. Interchanging positions during play doesn't mean he plays 10. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 8:34pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 4:50pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
eph12: Olodo. Truly u no know ball
I no sabi highlight but i hope you see the part about the possibility of having a CM in a 4231 formation. Just imagine you saying United played 2 DM against hull. Dem be barca? You get time sef |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 4:49pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
In Mou's 4-3-3, which has been our most played formation , Pogba doesn't play as a DM nor a 10. All this ppl sef ...  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 10:15pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Spy360: Ghen ghen
Mou vs Pep
keky, sod09, kokaneprodigy, edoyad, fkhalifa, Elrony, raumdeuter, nihilists, trendlona, contedicted, lana1, kagawa10... No arguments here!!! Sai Mourinho! !!!!!  Till Pep wins a league and UCL with Lyon  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:39pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:28pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
Which kind Epl season be this?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:26pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
codedguy1: Exactly what am thinking. And e be like say the boy na sharp man. Lol true o... Hèsus na bad guy. Kc no see bench today sef... He should work harder IMHO |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:15pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
Epl has turned pep to a Muslim, the guy dey do Allahu akbar, dey nack head for ground  Apari Mujahdeen Fraudiola  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:14pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
Kelechi needs to fast for one week!!!... I don't trust Pep and this Gabriel  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:10pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
Anyways a mother's Son just equalised  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:09pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
Sterling Ode! !!.... why didn't he fall?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:48pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:47pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
kokaneprodigy: Deluded manager with dysfunctional fans. What a cretinous vagabond you are!!! Useless Assnal fan! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:44pm On Jan 21, 2017 |
Lloris  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by elrony(m): 7:27am On Jan 21, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 6:52am On Jan 21, 2017 |
AdisaOwala: Griezmann is the kinda player that thrives mainly on space (to utilize his technique) & supply - starve him and he becomes uber useless...
We need players who wouldn't be easily rendered anonymous in tight matches......especially when they would cost a lot of money. AdiscoutOwala, any targets yet?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 2:35pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by elrony(m): 11:24am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Fraudiola : till further notice!  |
Family › Re: ‘Family Cut Me Off Because I Married A Woman On Wheelchair’ by elrony(m): 12:28am On Jan 19, 2017 |
Arrow24: so being an Igbo person is a disability ? E be like you never jam some Nigerian Mothers.  Some sef ,if the son partner fine too much,na disability. If she's well educated,disability. Anything they don't like can be likened to disability. |
Family › Re: ‘Family Cut Me Off Because I Married A Woman On Wheelchair’ by elrony(m): 12:24am On Jan 19, 2017 |
I remember going to watch and vote her every Sunday at "Number 1 Singer" in school then. She did win sef Good to see she's happily Married. I wish their union to prosper more and more. One day I'll change my mindset and get married. |
Technology Market › Re: ♨Brand New SEALED Huawei GR5 SOLD♨ by elrony(m): 7:02pm On Jan 18, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:10am On Jan 18, 2017 |
Lol joeace2020 don bring him own  Ma nigguh, ma nigguh!  |
Education › Re: Type The Longest Word You Know And The Meaning by elrony(m): 7:17am On Jan 18, 2017 |
Iwillnotgiveadamnsmallfucktoday  so simple to understand. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by elrony(m): 12:39am On Jan 18, 2017 |
A40: I'm not married sha so nothing wey I wan talk go sound practicable but if I'm Yaya Toure na either she follow me go China or she go find another husband Osè, take am easy!!!!  |
Technology Market › Re: ♨Brand New SEALED Huawei GR5 SOLD♨ by elrony(m): 11:50pm On Jan 17, 2017 |
I was thinking GR5 was a 3 GB RAM phone, is it now different from 5X?
I'm interested , if you can verify if this is small as 5X.
I dey lagos. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria 'sends' Warship To The Gambia,Jhammeh Declares 90-day State Of Emergency by elrony(m): 9:13pm On Jan 17, 2017 |
Abagworo: Buhari has been winning all the elections but rigged out and he accepted. Buhari is the only clean politician in Nigeria. 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by elrony(m): 8:46pm On Jan 17, 2017 |
This Spy360 sef  |