₦airaland Forum

Adeoba10:
Nice one....

Sorry for bring this here, please how did u solve the relocation issue of printing your relocation letter.. My younger brother is having issues with it.. Tnks

Will there be regular power supply?

mikeapollo:
Who told you that Lagos is 21million? It is all exaggerated estimates. The last census put Lagos and Kano at 8million plus

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/lagos-population&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi4qPiCpLvXAhUFCuwKHRfhCoYQFjAQegQIFxAA&usg=AOvVaw1Dt2NzEkuT8Ehig1qtev4H


Google is your friend

PHILipu1:
Ghana is just a small village compare to Nigeria and don't expect things that work easily in Ghana to work in Nigeria.
What is their total population?

population of Ghana 28million, population of Lagos 21 million...

Our problem is bigger

ashjay001:
Unfortunately, I was born into xtianity n had a good memory with a love for reading!?

I dont believe in ur Jesus!? I dnt believe in ur heaven or hell!? I'm just using d language u understand to talk back at u!?


I was made in his image!? I have d divine consciousness in me. I dnt need ur jesus to access it.


I do d little I can do for those that are in my orbit n dont really care what my neighbour does, as long as he doesnt intrude into my personal space.

Once in a while, I state my opinions. He who has ears, let him hear!? And, if he no hear, how e take concern me!

Live n let live.

I was worst than you are in criticizing things like this... So I understand ur plight!

felixomor:
How many Dangote do you have in Africa?
How many bill gates do u havein the world?
How much do you pay as offering since u were born?

A while ago,
I thought you implied these things are easy.....

You should build one too, lets follow your footsteps
Since its no big deal

talk is cheap! It's easy to criticize! Everyone has an opinion! Sadly!

MrMcJay:
On which worthless scale?

Which Nigerian Church or Pastor has given half of what Dangote has given?

Which Nigerian Church has given 1/10 of what MTN foundation has given?

Which Nigerian Church has given 1/200 of what Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has given?

Go to the various hospitals and see members of various churches unable to pay their bills and waiting for divine intervention while their Pastors are building mega churches and flying jets around the world.

you just quote world billionaires! How many have you given from the one you have?!

Chiboyz40:
@EMEKA1MILLION pls ignore d fools trying to justify themselves, forming they know something when actually, there brain is a replica of their foolish being. God bless you for trying your best to let them know of what an asset we have in Papa. Private jet is even small sef.

Well! It's painful when people just post things they know nothing about.
I have benefited alot from the church far more than I have even given.. They really don't understand

adetayo234:
If oyedepo and adeboye decide to show you what they do in secret, you will agree that this man hasn't done anything.

True to that!

cashreport:
lies



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a member

you are not! If u are really a member, I will like to meet you.

Willie2015:
I always ask myself why Christ the owner of the world keep walking about preaching the gospel when he could get a private jet or command Angels to carry him all throughout his ministries. Think deeply !

read what you wrote and make sense out of it! U think shallow

SnowJay92:
While I don't usually criticize people which does not affect me directly, don't you think it might be worth it to share with us some of the things he does, what is it that made you turn, once you got into his church, who knows a poor sinner like me might benefit. Please share details. ..

visit the church website for a live stream every Sunday and Thursdays!

In his words!

If you are in this church and still poor after 3 years, please u can leave...


His teachings are based on salvation, prosperity, healing etc...


He will not just pray for your to be rich or prosperous, he will teach you how to make wealth!

Like I said! I learnt a lot!
My testimony is too big to share on a public forum like this!

ashjay001:
I'm not defending myself or my pedigree!? Just trying to show u d fallacy of ur unnecessary argument!? Cos, I'm quite sure dey informed him b4 getting d jet n he would be well aware n prepared for d possible backlash!?


Stop trying to defend d indefensible!?

Since your kobo is not in the cost of the jet.... You should keep ur opinions to yourself.

So he should say No because of people like you?

If you where called now by your uncle that he will be sending you a car, will you reject because people in your street will talk?

Backlash from who exactly?

BluntBoy:
Are pastors the only workmen in the Church? What about the singers, the instrumentalists, the ushers, the guards, e.t.c.? Are they not also workmen? Why do only pastors get paid?

hehehehe! Even your bank manager is not collecting the salary of an instrumentalist in salvation ministries! Quote Me anywhere!

ashjay001:
I have already read where d jet came from!?

The same way we wished pmb sold some of his presidential jets to reduce costs, is d same way ur pastor should dispose of it n use d recovered cash to extend d reach of his charity!?


Givers never stop giving, esp when dey base their ministry on such n are acclaimed men of God!?


The rich man was told to go n give away all his wealth n come follow Jesus, after he claimed to av kept all d commandments!? Has ur pastor given away all his wealth yet!

how about you practice what you preached above! You are also a child of God! Aren't you? How many life's have u touched?

ashjay001:
Are u trying to make it worse! Do u realise how many more of all these, d cash for d private jet would make possible?!


Is there a point whereby ur good works are sufficient?

scroll up to see where I mentioned where the jet came from...

Desyner:
You are missing it by a wide margin man.
Even if you list times 10 of what you presented as his charities, it doesn't justify the jet. The use of the jet justifies the jet and not charities.

are u aware that a few individuals came together to buy that jet? Will u reject an iPhone 8 at your level now cos billions of people are hungry? You still don't have a case!

BluntBoy:
You are the foolish one. Serving God and pastor because of material gains. When would that time come when men will worship God in spirit and in truth? You all worship God because of earthly blessings and the fear of hell.

bro! GOD is a wealthy God! He created everything for you and I to enjoy. We where not brought to earth to suffer so we can enjoy in heaven. Everything material, spiritual is for us.
Don't let the devil make u reason like a poor man.
If u are poor as a Christian, you are not serving right brother!

CaptainJeffry:
Oga Sir, I don't have a foundation but I touch lives daily with my hard earned salary and small investments here and there. When I mean hard earned salary, I mean the one I earn through saving people's lives and putting mine on the line. I don't need no foundation to do that bro. Most foundations are scam.

well! I was worst than you when it's about criticizing churches! You need to visit to understand. May God touch your heart.

Desyner:
My point is Ibiyeome isn't breaking the rules himself don't break it on his behalf.

you have no point sir! Adios

Wolexyoshi:
All I know is that all these are not up to what TB Joshua is doing yet members did not buy him private jet.

I guess there is one rich drug dealer/ritualist/polithieftian/419 who is behind this.

Tb Joshua deals on healing! David Ibiyeomie preaches prosperity and healing! Big difference sir!

When you prosper you serve!

Desyner:
I am not one of them. It was a wrong move to start listing charity. There are men who have - by estimate - given out hundreds of billion of $ in charity but you hardly here of cos they keep it they way Jesus commands.

so out of all the posts? You singled out the charity? Talk about negativity!

VcStunner:
I read what u put up there, and with all due respect you are still not using your head. Tell me of the Ibiyiomie business duly registered and properly taxed by the Nigerian state that generated all the profits thru which all these was actualized?
Pastoring is a 100% selfless service. Quietly gehrarahere mehn

so what is your point exactly?

Lotechi:
he is not to be praised because the money was actually donated to him.... Jesus said if you want to follow me as a disciple, sell all your properties and give the proceeds to the poor. Note: he said all.

where is the tax money you paid to the government? Why is it not returned to you?

CaptainJeffry:
It will even be better some pastors join politics so we can easily identify them as thieves and scammers instead of hiding behind the pulpit.

did u feed anyone today? Outside your family circle?
Did u see a hungry child down the street and invite him to come and eat? Do your own service too and God will reward you.

Stop the negativity

creamyzone:
My brother you dont need to proove any thing to the bunch of myopic people on social media. They are too blinded by a poverty mindset and this backward environment we all live in called Nigeria. They pity poor pastors yet they still envy rich pastor...

many kind hearted pastors are doing great charity works without making any noise about it. David ibiyiome was a former winners pastor and moulded and ordained by bishop david oyedepo so this is the beginning of better things to come for this great MOG

A private jet will boost his evangelism ministry around the world. Tell me whats wrong in church members donating to acquire a product that will hasten their pastor's global tours. a renowned pastor keneth copeland has given out over 26 jets as far back as year 2009 as gifts to different pastors.


This man is a very humble and still attends the annual shiloh program at canaanland as to get more wisdom and as respect for his spiritual father. So my dear OP, haters will always talk and its better to just ignore them.

PS:
If you pity poor pastors then dont hate rich pastors. its better to be envied that to be pitied in life. Poverty is not holiness. Infact poverty is the root of most evil in our society. May God give you the wisdom to renew your mind...

Great one sir!

Desyner:
In an attempt to silence the critics you broke God's word where it says let not even thy right hand know what goes on in your left hand.

but your Kings men where crying that it's offering money and tithe. Why are you all so negative?

People are crazy sha! Politicians loot this country dry and they are celebrated...
Someone out of his selflessness is doing good works for humanity and y'all are crying fowl...

If the tax payers money is returned to you just the way he is returning to the people, I believe our life's will be far better than this.

CaptainJeffry:
The pastor did all that "through his foundation" and you said "he did" Are you daft to know that foundation's monies come from donations probably by his members. How much donation did his foundation collect and how much was channelled to all these?

Most conmen float foundations to take their yahoo biz international and also make a wider reach.

Mr man, no provoke me this afternoon.

but your politicians loot you dry and u are no complaining! Misplaced priorities

chemystery:
Simply because you have nothing to prove, period!
They must have dashed you small money in the church that is why you came out to defend your pastopreneur

Well! You are right! #gracias!

BluntBoy:
So, your pastor's offering can buy them?

Calm down and listen to me. Stop glorifying a man like you. Other people contributed to those bags and you want to give all the credits to your pastor. If he is so generous, why didn't he ask that the jet be sold and the money given to the poor.

Would Jesus or any of the Apostles or Early Church leaders have accepted such an expensive gift when billions are suffering all over the world? You want us to see the good works of your pastor as if only his money went into it. I am even sure that he didn't even contribute one kobo to the purchase of those bags.

you are seeing all this for the first time cos I posted it here... No one is making noise about anything. Why don't you sell your fone and use it to feed a fraction of the poor billion?

BluntBoy:
That is the problem with Churches who have human beings as the central figure. Everything the Church does is credited to the figure instead of to God.

Any Church where a man is the central figure and the identity of the Church is not of God. Jesus has been uprooted from that Church.

Any pastor who preaches tithing under the Law of Moses is a thief, a parasite, a wolf, a viper.

Now, before you credit your pastor for that generosity, can you tell me what he does for a living?

don't criticize what you don't understand. Can your offering of one year buy a bag of rice? If No! Den I have nothing to tell you.

He has never been the central figure of the church! God uses him to do his work so he deserves the plaudits coming his way.