MuttleyLaff: He volunteered the info already that he was a staunch Muslim for up to 20 years before converting after hearing and wholeheartedly receiving the Gospel of our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide word Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ, that in a way, will be "injeel" for you and your understanding E.mpiree, lol
PS: I am waiting for you send an invite to your blind guide, the vain braggart Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem.
I know his type. That isnt new. I forgot he said he was muslim. If them born him well he can challenge me here but he disappeared. We know his type.
MuttleyLaff: Is that how to respond to the post, lol. Smh, you no well at all, at all. Oo gbadun. Office adin dundun ati akara, lowa gbe sori bi ede, abi? Hmmm?. Mtcheeew
Bcus there is nothing to reply to. Apart from the fact that it is long which i didnt mind, I read everthing but I realized it is repetetion of what we already discussed for the most part. For instance "Jesus is Lord and Savior". You were unable to prove it when we discussed it. So why waste my precious time?
[img]https://s3.gifyu .com/images/3xsmhp.gif[/img] You no get shame at all, at all
Oh this, that one doesnt know whats up. Besides, he didnt reply my post. So I won't be bothered. I only talk nice with reasonable christians. He didnt identify which religion he practices. I need that answer first. Also, did he not see how kiriyo interact?. I don't need his advice.
First and foremost, there is no command to or command not to celebrate our Lord and Saviour of the whole world wide Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ. This is the beauty of law of grace, lol. We'll leave this for one side, maybe come back to it later, lol
This is all where Empiree, you, the blind guide misjiving in the above Facebook link, lol and my other beloved dear Muslim brother AntiChristian.
For example, the blind guide in the above Facebook link, just made the same mistakes made by my dear Muslim brother AntiChristian where he freely made ignorant and snide remarks about Jesus concerning Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 and thinking he has gone scot free unchallenged by me, lol. He also, lol, just like the above Facebook link blind guide yarning ignorant bullshit, thinks that our Lord and Saviour of the whole world wide Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ died on Friday.
"But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When He was hung on the cross, He took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree.”" - Galatians 3:13
Empiree, lol, please forward the above Bible Galatians 3:13 verse to the blind guide in the above Facebook link Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem. "Je ki o jere ninu", lol, loosely translated means "Let him read it and then shamefully weep because of his ignorance"
Now if, my dear Muslim brother AntiChristian, has understood what "... lama Sabachthani..." means in Galilean Aramaic and/or Mishnaic Hebrew and even the blind guide in the above Facebook link Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, then my dear Muslim brother AntiChristian would have made his ignorant and snide remarks about Jesus concerning Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32, nor would the blind guide in the above Facebook link Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem say that our Lord and Saviour of the whole world wide Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ didnt die on the cross at Calvary, smh
The blind guide in the above Facebook link Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, shut the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo up jor Who told you, with that your wack attempt of doing a yankey accent at the 23 minute mark of the video, that the our Lord and Saviour of the whole world wide Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ is not the Truth, the Way and the Light. Smh.
"17Then the LORD said to me, ‘What they have said is right. 18I will raise up a Prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites. I will put my words in His mouth, and He will tell the people everything I command him. 19I will personally deal with anyone who will not listen to the messages the Prophet proclaims on my behalf. 20But any prophet who falsely claims to speak in my name or who speaks in the name of another god must die." - Deuteronomy 18:17-20
Also Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, have you forgotten that Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 above said, hmm? Look at verse 20, to see the fate that lies ahead for you, blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, for Empiree, for AntiChristian, for my other loving Muslim brothers and sisters, and for "prophet" Muhammad pbuh. Repent each one of you, when there is still time and before it is late. I helped you. Look, now is the acceptable time. Listen, now is the day of salvation!
Another thing blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem and this about the issue of addressing or calling God, Father, by Jesus and us believers is this. Historically, the Israelites, couldnt embrace the concept of saying God's name, talkless callng God, Father. Even to write ordinarily God, they wont they instead would write G_d. This among many other reasons, I wont go into, except this one, is because they imagined, if they write God on a piece of paper and it ends up in a waste paper bin, then it means they have profaned the name of God and hence violated the 3rd commandment in Exodus 20:7 "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain etcetera" Anyway, fast forward, when the disciples asked Jesus to teach them a model on how to pray. Jesus in Matthew 6:9-13, revolutionarily made them to start the prayer with "Our Father" (i.e. "This, then, is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name, Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven" - Matthew 6:9-10) God is a loving God.
We are God's children and so God wants us all, to see Him as our Heavenly Father. We even progress as to endearingly call God, ABBA too. Praise God Alleluia It was the Father who sent the Son to carry out the redemplan plan for that salvation of you, I and the rest of the whole wide world.
For the blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem to come out and say that our Lord and Saviour of the whole world wide Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ didnt die and that He didnt die for anyone, is testament that the blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem is one of the so many antichrists out there, flexing their muscles, smh.
Blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, you asked at the 27 minute mark, that where in the Bible, does/did Yahshua Ha Maschiach aka Jesus Christ say He came to die for our sins, lol, I lol in Arabic, lol. Ask my dear Muslim brother AntiChristian to help you go research properly what truly and exactly was said in Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32. In there you'll find the answer to your request Mr blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, lol. "You arent illiterate nau, you go school nah, shebi o kawe, shebi o mọ iwe ka," so since you've been within the four walls of a school's classroom, then you should be able and capable to successfully do the home work on Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32 and both get back to us on what was said in there. Empiree, please help the two brothers Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem and AntiChristian, out on this with a helping hand, lol
Blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, you said you make noises. Well I couldnt have agreed more with you that its all noises that you make. You are nothing other than an empty barrel vain braggart. About that Malachi 2:3 "Behold, I will rebuke your descendants,a and I will spread dung on your faces, the waste from your feasts, and you will be carried off with it" asides from not going to pull you up and school you on anthropomorphism and God, please tell where in that Malachi 2:3, according to you, does it say the faeces mentioned in Malachi 2:3, are coming from God, hmm?
Empiree, you better stop going to drink in the dirty trough of this blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem leading you and my other Muslim brothers and sisters astray
Empiree send the blind guide Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem here to this thread and post. Sebi he is asking for a challenge ni, erhn?. OK then, send him this post and thread, just as he's asked when ranting and raving on that Facebook live broadcast he made. "Je ko wa fara gba ota, lol" loosely translated means "Invite here, show him this threa, and let him step to come face the firing squad, so he be bullets riddled, lol"
Nobi fight oo. Nobi say insulting oo, calling you blind guide, brother Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem, na word bring word out ooo, there is nothing personal here, just only that truth prevail and the good news that Jesus died for the sins of the world and to reconcile man back with God. We look forward to seeing you grace this thread
shadeyinka: Dear Emp.iree, I haven't come here for you but to take you back to the door leading to where you seem afraid to thread. If you have any regard for the truth, you should have interviewed @Geeman23 .
He specifically called you out to interview him. He doesn't want to argue with anybody hence his quiet stance (It could even be in private just between the two of you).
The truth obviously has power to set people free.
As salaam aleikum!
I have no idea what you are talking about.. who's Geeman23 and which thread?. I don't keep memory of unusual moniker. And I surely don't spend my entire life on NL. So you might need to post his link.
sagenaija: Did you see the comments on the Facebook guy's message?
When you can't answer questions you always turn to personal attacks. Have you noticed that?
The time you spend copying and pasting could have simply been used to answer BUT we know you don't have the answers.
The ones I answered no reach you?
Imagine silly question. "God pray to Muhammad". Even christian evangelists dont use that argument against us. So why do you think i should waste my time?. Translation is so clear. If you can not understand simple english i can not help you, bro.
Also the lady asked "why I put 'God' in parenthesis if Allah is God"?. You think I should waste my time on this nonsense?.
Anas09: Empir.ee and Ril.wane, come and tell me who allah is praying to here.
From the start, I have maintained that allah is a demon under satan, Muslims cry everytime insay that. Who will a god be praying to if does not have a superior?
Allah (God) and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect. - Q33:56
You don't have sense. Bcuz the book says what you wanted to hear, does that make it true?. I showed you a thread that we have already talked about it but you turned blind eye.
You are so lazy
Edyice: Bro abeg leave uncle empiree alone . The guy is not trying , he just want to argue .. he didn't listen to this confession, he has read THE PEOPLE VS MOHAMMED. Uncle wants to agree all day .. my hands are off his matter.
At the End, People that want to get save will actually be , this has been happening since the beginning of time , some will doubts , others won't show concern only the small few..
Lord have mercy. Chai . I am sorry. I thought you are intelligent that much. It is my fault and it is also my fault for saying "linguistic analysis" in arabic. Yes, the english translation is correct. Even at that, you still dont get it. I gave example of "say" which is indication that words of Allah were dictated to the prophet(S) directly. Sura Fatiah is teaching Muhammad(s) and by extension, muslims how to supplicate. Is that too difficult to swallow?. We seen similar case in "Thy Lord's prayer" and one of your brothers tried to refute me on that. I also gave example that there are other verses like that, that speak in the same tone.
You know what?. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Go and sleep and return and read over again tomorrow.
sagenaija: [size=6pt][/size] Empi.ree, Have you ever seen a STOOL without legs?
You cannot just come to a conclusion without building up your arguments properly.
What I quoted was in English not Arabic so talking about "linguistic analysis of the use of Arabic language and the tone of the sura Fatiha" is irrelevant. If the translators couldn't bring all these into the English then it's none of my business.
Remember, the question was simple: who is Allah worshipping in chapter 1 verse 5? Allah says: "It is You we worship and You we ask for help"
So: 1. How does the fact that the "phrase 'In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful' / bism-il-lah-ir-rahman-ir-rahim / is, in fact, mentioned both at the onset of the Qur'an and at the beginning of every Surah, except Surah 9" answer the question? All you've done is to state what appear at the beginning of the chapters of the Koran. How does that answer the question?
2. Your words:
Are we missing something here? Assuming something is different from providing clear proof.
Where in that verse did it state that the "words are uttered on behalf of the servants"? I can't find it there. Can you show us where you saw this phrase in that verse?
3. You said:
Which means we should take it as it is stated. You therefore have no right to add to or assume what is not CLEARLY stated by Allah in that verse.
4. You said:
There is no 'say' in that verse so how did you come about your EXACTNESS that that is what the verse is about? Are you trying to make us see what is not there?
If, as you claim, the Koran is word for word the words of Allah then you must take it as it is stated. You have no right to add to it or remove from it. Therefore, if Allah in Koran chapter 1 verse 5 says "It is You we worship and You we ask for help" it means that Allah is making SUPPLICATION and PETITION to another person or being. If this is the case then Allah is not supreme. Any other explanation is simply a SPECULATION.
You can see how the very first chapter of the Koran shows how messed up it is.
TimmyA: Instead of appreciating what they have, provide all needed medical facilities and employ more medical professionals. They rushed and started importing fake chinco personnel who are the source and manufacturers of the disease.
It is a shame. Africa has big problems. Big one. All these old fools, yes, fools with analog brain need to retire from public offices. They dont know shit. Won mo ju ki won ma da agbada kiri bi alubosa. I never openly condemned Buhari but with the way things are going and his silent on serious national issues called for concern. Awi tan, one silly minister said "Mr. president doesn't like to address the public". The Bleep he is president for?. Cases are under 300 now. If cases surge suddenly you all should know whats up but i hope not. Some said that these chinese doctors came for chinese expatriates in nigeria. Fine, China should send its plane to pick them up. Nigeria only has under 300 cases by official counts. Average Nigerians seem to be smarter than their leaders.
Black people dont have brain to govern a nation. There is no pandemic in nigeria. Why is all this attention?. Cases in Nigeria is under 300. Why dont they go to Spain, UK and other EU countries.
Again, Black people are brainless scumbags. If you are Black and you have brain my post doesn't concern you. Nigerian govt is a disgrace. I know some people are gonna tell me I don't understand the need to have foreign "medical experts". What happened to thousands of medical doctors and nurses in nigeria?.
Edyice: ( it is sure you dont know your Bible. Jacob seen God face to face and his life was spared. Read Genesis 32:30 )
Empiree is right studying the word of God I pray God use you or chose you as one his evangelist , you will go places , save lives and teach the truth....
Now to share more light on that because it very broad
{God can do all he want to do -- exodus 4:11 and besides he Jacob was chosen for his work , that why he changed his name to ISRAEL . For as a prince he have the power of God and men ..... Genesis 33: 28
And for the record God came to him in human flesh.. yes man ... Genesis 33: 24 not as God the MOST HIGH .. for the most high commet with bright light .....
Uncle empiree... Any other thing
What is all the jagbajagba you just said?. You obviously cant not refute this obvious contradictions in your bible. Another bible verse reiterated in John 5:37
And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form,
Where is your evidence that chosen person like Jacob can see God?. Being chosen by God is one thing. Seeing God is another entirely. Jesus himself did not see God. Moses was chosen by God yet he did not see God. God emphatically said no one can see him Exodus 33:20
But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."
See highlighted is emphatic. It is called fil mudhari "continuous tense". W=So when Moses tried to see God he collapsed. Was Moses not chosen?
sagenaija: Empiree, I can see that you're not man enough to take up my challenge.
Readers of these posts will see that for themselves.
You're ATTEMPTING to PROJECT your INSECURITY in your religion - Islam - on Christianity. It doesn't work.
It is not the Bible that is messed up. It can NEVER be messed up.
It is the Koran that is in a totally bad shape.
Take this for example: You believe that the Koran contain the DIRECT words of Allah. So, who is Allah worshipping in chapter 1 verse 5? Allah says: "It is You we worship and You we ask for help".
NOW, don't run away or try to deflect the question by saying that you answered it 5 years ago. Give us your answer here. If you are HONEST and SINCERE tell us how this singular verse does not show that the Koran is messed up.
Yes, this is old and age long criticism but i dont mind saying one or two things here to please you. Your problem is linguistic analysis of the use of Arabic language and the tone of the sura Fatiha. Although, if i reply you with "Allah is teaching the prophet how tp supplicate", this is enough answer but I should provide a little more details. If this phrase is your problem, "It is You we worship and You we ask for help" then you have more of it to worry about.
In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful
The Holy phrase 'In The Name of Allah, The Beneficent, The Merciful' / bism-il-lah-ir-rahman-ir-rahim / is, in fact, mentioned both at the onset of the Qur'an and at the beginning of every Surah, except Surah 9, (Surah Taubah -Repentance). And, since the purpose of Allah's Word, i.e. the whole Qur'an, is to guide people; as Surah Al-Maidah, No. 5, verses 15-16 say:
"...Indeed, there has come to you a light and a clear Book from Allah", "With it Allah guideth him who follows His pleasure to the ways of peace and safety..."; therefore, this guidance, being a grant and a fundamental principle, begins with Allah's Holy Name. This Surah, among all Suras of the Qur'an: has an extraordinary; radiance which originates from the following merits:
1. The Tone of the Surah
This Surah, The Opening, in comparison with other Suras of the Qur'an regarding its tone and melody, has a particular style which is, clearly different and extraordinary. The other Suras contain instructions from Allah, Who gives commands and admonishments to His servants, but, in this Surah, His words are uttered on behalf of the servants. In other words, in this Surah, Allah has taught His servants how to supplicate and speak to Him, simply and without a mediator.
2. Al-Fatihah, the Basis of the Qur'an
It is narrated that the holy Prophet (S) has said:
"By the One, in Whose hand is my soul, Allah has not sent down a similar Surah to this Surah (Al-Fatihah), neither in the Turah, nor in the Gospel, nor in the Psalms, nor even in the Qur'an and it is Umm-ul-Kitab"; 1 which means that it is the basis and origin of all excellence.
note: dont misunderstand "Gospel" mentioned this prophetic saying with Gospel or Bible you have today. Gospel is mentioned the in the hadith for folks like you to understand it is talking about revelation to Jesus. Bible/gospel has nothing to do with Jesus.
3. Al-Fatihah, Magnificent Honour of the Prophet (SAW)
Surah Al-Fatihah, more so than the other Suras in the Holy Qur'an, was revealed to the holy Prophet (S) as a great bounty. It stands on a par with the whole Qur'an. The seven verses in the Surah sum up the whole Qur'an:
"And We have bestowed upon thee the Seven Oft-repeated (verses) and the Grand Qur'an",. Sura Fatiha contains 7 verses.
This meaning is also referred to in a narration from Amir-ul-Mu'mineen Ali (as) quoting the Prophet's (S) tradition who said:
"Verily, Allah, the Exalted, has bestowed (His) favours on me particularly for 'The Opening' (Al- Fatihah) and has positioned it on a par with the whole Grand Qur'an, and surely Fatihat.-ul-Kitab (the Opening of the Qur'an) is the dearest (item) in the treasures of the 'Arsh, (Throne of Heaven)".
There are more details but i think this should be enough for now. But let me add this really quickly. Quran is word for word , word of Allah. You get to read in the Quran, 'say', 'say'. That's exactly what Surah Fatiha is about. For instance, Sura 112 begins with "Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. et'al
Edyice: I have done my research My brother has done his research
Oyibo Christians has done there research
Even when Jesus Christ come to earth he did not fly to heaven in human flesh and come back Alive .. he knows he can't do it .. he has to transform to been HOLY upon HOLY to talk to the angles that came to the earth when he went to pray in the mountain with two of his disciples ...
In a nutshell , am saying nobody see God or the angles eye balls to eye ball you will die instantly .....--- exodus 33:20
It is sure you dont know your Bible. Jacob seen God face to face and his life was spared. Read Genesis 32:30
"So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared."
YourBible is your tsunami
But Mohammed didn't only see God but he came back LIVING because he was SUPERMAN or CAPTAIN MARVEL .(. yessss ALIVE ) that not funny at all
You should rather worry about your Biblical contradictions. Here is another one in the Book of Amos 9:1
I saw the Lord standing by the altar, and he said: "Strike the tops of the pillars so that the thresholds shake. Bring them down on the heads of all the people; those who are left I will kill with the sword. Not one will get away, none will escape.
See eeeh that's why I said your should read the Bible
If you read the verses before this you will understand better what Jesus was teaching. He was simply saying ( THIS IS HOW TO PRAY ). Uncle empiree ( if you say all this as a New believer , you will be at peace)
JESUS was only teaching us how to pray on a daily basis ..
Daily Bread and forgive us from those who trespassers
What is the meaning of trespass ( look your dictionary me I can't tell you that )
As we forgive those who trespasses against us ...
Lead us no into temptation and deliver us from evil
Those are simple terms in English language ...
JESUS is only teaching us how to pray and survive daily treat from evil doers and how to pray for guardians...
Uncle empiree Any other things .....
Oh I see. You could open your mouth to say "Jesus was teaching how to pray" but you didnt think before you criticize open chapter of Quran, abi?. Sura Fathia also teaches how to pray.
Edyice: Uncle Empiree the beginning of your prayer says ( Allah show me / us the way ... ) it means Allah don't know the way When the JESUS clearly says am I the way , the truth and LIFE..... No man go to God but through me...
But Jesus who supposedly the Way is also asking for his daily bread and forgiveness. This is your christian prayer
Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses , As we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil.For thine is the kingdom, The power, and the glory, For ever and ever. Amen.
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