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Evercurious:
PLS SHUT THE HEL UP WITH THAT YOUR DEVILISH MANIFESTO YOU BROUGHT UP FROM THE PIT OF HELL. SEE AS YOU LIE FORGET YOURSELF OR AS USUAL YOU GUYS BEHAVE LIKE APC ALWAYS FORGING ONE DOCUMENT OR ANOTHER JUST TO MISLEAD THE PEOPLE. DEVILISH LOTS.. AND FOR TOUR INFO JW HAS NEVER BEEN PART OF CAN .. DEVILISH CRIMINAL

PervertProphet:
They respectfully wrote a letter on the lies and insulting words that you people go about telling Ignorant people about Jesus. Mostly people who are half educated or probably illiterates and you say that CAN is harassing you people.

You no well oh

middlebelter:
With people like you in Government, Kwara state is already on fire. You are talking as if you area dictator.Your comment is not only provocative it is completely immature for a publics space of this nature.

I doubt if the document you are talking about on killing of muslims exist, and if it does, the probability it was cooked by muslims to blackmail the christians is very high. Everyone in this country knows and with due respect to my muslim friends that the members of muslims organizations are more prone to violence like you are suggesting than christians. Imagine you saying christian organization should be routed out of Kwara state.Can you stand a reverse of such comment from a christian without resulting into violence. The unfortunate thing is if Kwara should burst into violence, only Mr Governor will be blamed and bad advisers like you will escape.
What exactly is the Muslim vs Christians Population in Kwara state that a Governor will be giving appointments as if the Christians does not exist.

Your mindset is and understanding of politics is dangerous for democracy.

Maximus69:
There's no silly question here Sir!

I said spirits do communicate with people and declare they're sent by God.

You said it's impossible.

I asked if Muhammad lied about having to deal with Gabriel (spirit).

So i asked you what makes you think he was a prophet?

PervertProphet:
To show your post is a fabrication. You included JW. Even though, JW too are another false organization that are always secretive. Always hiding their Child Abuse Cases, not giving it top priority in their new secret book, Shepherd the Flock, etc. Despite all these. Shey! JW be member of CAN?

As usual with all your post. You don't know your facts plus you insult other peoples' figures just like Muhammad usually did and feign offense when Muhammad's pervasive lifestyle is protrayed as recorded by the very first set of Muslims. The Companions of Muhammad.

Don't you know that it is one of the biggest mockery and insult to Jesus to call him just a "Prophet"?

sagenaija:
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Empiree, If you took time to understand my post, you would have seen that what I focused on was FACTS AND EVIDENCE and how your EMOTIONS gets in the way of your being able to provide FACTS and EVIDENCE to any of your arguments.

That's what I was communicating. Nothing else. Every other thing was to see if you got it and were going to be able to use the instances
to provide FACTS and EVIDENCE for your position.

Unfortunately you failed on all counts. You again allowed your EMOTIONS to run amok.

Maximus69:
©She fed me from infancy even though i never knew when she was breastfeeding me!

©She also kept pictures from time to time until i grew up to know her!

©She also gave birth to my siblings and i could remember vividly how some of them were brought home after delivery and how she breastfed them!

©There is sharp resemblance between me, my siblings and my mother!

©She tried all within her capability to see to it that all her children are united as one big and happy family!

©When we were little she made sure we attended school and gave my dad all her support to see that all of us went to school!

© During festivities she makes sure that all her children are well dressed like other kids and makes sure we enjoy the best of festive seasons!

Hmmmmmmmm how can i forget her?

She did so much for me!


So now can you please answer my own question?

What convinced you that a sixth century Arabian was a prophet when you never saw him?

Simeonjoe1:
Baba remove jw from that post post we never deal with CAN or politics of the land we reside, we are neutral and view God's kingdom as the permanent solution to mankind's problems hence just like Jesus we ARE NO PART OF THE WORLD

mondbest:
No proper treatment have been outline to make sure the citizens don't go hungry yet they are bringing out warning, useless bunch of clown leaders

Evercurious:
You don mad before?

Evercurious:
Abeg go.check your head..

Maximus69:
What makes him a prophet?

What convinced you that he's a prophet?

eni4real:
Stop being a Muslim more than Muhammed!!
Muhammed did not teach you to be attacking Christian organization like this!!

Stop spreading your hate Propagandist!!!

Fake Muslim!!!

eni4real:
Muhammed did not teach you this!!
Stop this madness now!!!
Fake Muslim!!!

eni4real:
Is Muhammed not your Prophet again..
He should be ashamed of you!!

Did he teach you to hate Christian or any Christian organization like this??
Fake Muslim!!!

PervertProphet:
You don't say anything meaningful that they can address. All what you do is abuse others and when they do same to Muhammad. You start getting worked up. What is it you asked that it should be address.

I want to address it.

PervertProphet:
This is the trash you wrote that you asked the other guy to address. What's reasonable here to address?

You want us to go into the history of how even in Universities. Muslims were responsible for many violence.

iwaeda:
Injustice breed calamity

eni4real:
You are talking "in the rubbish"!!
Muhammed should be ashamed of you!!!

eni4real:
After you have abused the Christian organization??
Stop being a hypocrite!!!
Muhammed was not a Hypocrite!!!
You are not a Muslim!!!

Hadsty23:
Just some kind cooked up shit... Is deputy Gov not a Christian and so many like that

eni4real:
This is madness!!! Muhammed will be ashamed of you!!!!

Maximus69:
So Muhammad must have lied that Gabriel (spirit) appeared to him and delivered some messages to him!

Geeman23:
what are the modalities for this debate on Islam between and you. I am actually now interested. I am not a novice in Islam. I schooled in it's knowledge from age 3-4 till I entered the university when the holy ghost took hold of my life. my childhood memoir which I am still writing has a whole chapter on Islam and my growing up experience, my madrasat days and the heavy Islamic influence in my family. I respect Islam a lot( a thing some Christian Brothers often use to say as me still beign attached to the religion).

I still follow a lot of Islamic scholars both the Sunni( where I belonged till I left the faith) and the the traditional suffis. see when I keep silent on issues on conversation most times it is my personal attempt at not putting Islam to ridicule just because I am no longer an adherent.

The Lord the holy spirit aught me a lot about Islam. Islam in itself is not bad ( i.e the act of ibadah doing salat, zakat, fasting, hajj, piousness etc. The problem with Islam is the ground Norm i.e the Revelation on which the faith developed. The Revelation of the Quran is actually not from the God of heaven. Some spirits of unrighteous masquerading as God actually we're responsible for the Revelation of the Quran and subsequent supernatural intervention that made the faith grow rapidly. see I hate to say these things but that is the truth. You don't get to know the weakness of Islam until you encounter the True living God who with knowledge of would set a man free from the strong appeal of the quran.

The test is any spirit that is from God must proclaim God's kingdom, acknowledge the sacrifice if Jesus as key to restore man to God.

The fantastic crafting of the Quran by the spirit behind it ( its appeal to scientific order of nature , religious history, rhythm, logic and the supernatural means it came) is the biggest tool which even forced the holy prophet muhammad to believe is from God. see brother, Islam is a world. it is just like beign in Nigeria. If you don't gain access either accidentally or by self will to countries like Canada or USA either directly ( by immigration) or indirectly through exposure of life their via the Internet you can never fathom what you are loosing by beign in Nigeria and sticking ignorantly to Nigeria. My journey into God's kingdom was accidental but I have had the opportunity to understand better on the message of Islam which an average can never know until the veil is lifted of his eyes. I used to have those veils before. I was a zealous Muslim, all through my madrasat days I was active. Salat is something that my parent has planted into us from childhood.

Christians and Christianity were a No No.
but brother the reality to round this up is what we have learnt from experience and the Lord is leading many of us to reach to our brothers still in darkness and bondage of religion we were born is that, Jesus is the way. The veil made people like us deny this truth before. but we have seen it after we left Islam. we know God. we are not jus bowing to him believing we are pleasing him. God talks to us. we talk to him. This morning when I woke up, the Lord asked me to grab my pen and book and begin to write a Revelation on a wisdom I had demand From him since. I wrote about five pages of a sixty leaves note.

brother this is the life God intend for man, the eternal life of mutual fellowship by the holy spirit which the faith of Christ came to restore. I[b]slam although strongly appealing in moral righteousness is another plan of the devil to cut of a lot of people from the enjoyment of this life through a religion he started in Arabia to gain influence over the world.[/b]

I look forward to hearing more from you. brother. don't insult me oh. don't call me kiriyo.

Maximus69:
Ète k'éte kún inú ayé!

But i just want you to know that there are spirits appearing to people, possessing them as well as speaking through them!

The spirit of God will not speak to anyone to tell anyone anything now!

You will know the truth (when you come in contact with it) and the truth will set you free! John 8:32

So
©How will you know the truth?
©Could it just be without vivid changes?
©Will some spirits appear to some?
©Will it just be through studying books?
© Could it be by forcing others with guns?

NO!

It's by noticing the changes in the lives of those who have accepted the truth. Matthew 7:16-18

There are thousands of religions on this planet, each adherent is pointing to the religion handed to him by his parents but just only one group is making the changes in people around you today!

The Prince of ~
Peace(English)
Salem(Hebrew)
Salam(Arabic) is making people to drop weapons and embrace PEACE globally today! Isaiah 2:2-4

That is the one and only sign God intend to give us all, failure to acknowledge this simply means you're not a friend of PEACE. So the greeting "Salam aleikum" "Peace into the house holder" means nothing to God if you're not interested in his Peace making group!

sagenaija:
It is very interesting that you, Emp.iree, are making this statement.

See what true2god stated sometime ago:
"To be a good muslim, you must learn how to ignore facts and evidence." - true2god

Do you walk by FACTS?
Do you provide EVIDENCE when you answer questions?
When you ignore facts and evidence where does that leave you? Emotions!

Where is the evidence that it was angel Gabriel that appeared to Mohamed to tell him he was a prophet of Allah?

Where is the evidence that Mohamed performed any miracle?

Is it not a FACT that Mohamed said (contrary to all hygiene rules) that: 'Water is not made impure by anything.' Do you drink any water you come across, Empiree?

Is it not a FACT that Mohamed acknowledged the Torah and the Gospels which Moslems today deny?

In reality you disregard the FACTS and run your  religious life even when there is no clear EVIDENCE to support some of your claims.

You claim that 'Religion is not based on emotion but fact and evidence' yet you run away from FACTS and EVIDENCE and actually go by your EMOTIONS.

A clear example of this is your engagement of Christians here on Nairaland. You do it not to look at FACTS or EVIDENCE but because of a REACTION to your childhood experience. That is EMOTION. So, you set out, ab initio, not seek FACTS and EVIDENCE but to "get back" at your perceived antagonists. That is you religion Em.piree - emotion.

shadeyinka:
Don't forget that your claim is that the Christian body "sponsors" these conversion stories and that they are LIES.
Geeman23 has volunteered to present his conversion experience for you as a case study. Why are you afraid!

No!
It isn't emotion speaking. It is certainty. You will see that he hasn't argued with you on this. This is because he doesn't want an argument.

Asking and Answering questions isn't argument!
"Interview me" is no argument!
"Verify my claims" is no argument!

In all the above, he gave you the leverage of dictating the mode, tempo, depth...of your discussion. What are you afraid of? Debunk my lies is what he is saying

You are afraid of meeting Christ through his testimony! But don't, because the truth sets free

shadeyinka:
Here it is:


I have highlighted in red his position: not for any argument. He has given you the ropes with which to hang him if you consider his experience as untrue. One of my pastors had about the same experience too. His name: Rev Amos Ibitoye Muftau Raheem. Such experiences are not uncommon as you want to believe.

So, I present to you brother Geeman23.

Asàlam aleikum

MuttleyLaff:
The three Musketeers blind guides Mallam Yusuf Adepoju, Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa and Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem leading a blind host of our beloved dear Muslim brothers and sisters astray. Smh. O ma se ooo.

Anyway, soja go, soja come. Barracks still remain. Na so Abuzola too was here doing fee-fi-foo-fum gra-gra upandan like as if someone stole his biscuit. Where he now?

Everything changes, except change itself, lol. Turn by turn. This is life Empiree. Life is about turn by turn. GOD help you and have mercy on your soul, if Jesus is not in the equation of your Life, lol.

LadunaI:
You better leave those dunce alone lol �

MuttleyLaff:
Stop it. Stop it already

When and where did you and I discuss "Jesus is Lord and Savior" and it ended up unable proved? Hmm? You and that your blind guide, the vain braggart Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem. are cut from the same cloth

"Sọrọ now". Tell where Show when. Paste the evidence. The proof. The link. You cant talk "Ẹnu ẹ, wọ iho ni?' Cat got your tongue?

"Jẹka tun dalẹ, ka tun sa nah. Bosi gbangba, ti o ba ara ẹ, loju. Ma fi ori ẹ ati ori oga ẹ alfa Ridwanullah Abolore Ibraheem gbalu ara wọn"