European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 12:16pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
afrodoc: I have only seen clips of Hjulmand but from what I have seen Baleba is by far the better prospect.
Antony had also played in ETH’s system before. All that means nothing when you come across EPL level athletes and not the Mickey Mouse players that abound in Portuguese and Dutch leagues. "Mickey Mouse players"..are u mocking Gyokeres?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:20am On Aug 07, 2025 |
Ellexy: It's the current reality of the market, it is what it is. An average player nowadays is going around 50 mil. l think we should stop worrying ourselves with respect to money spent.life is a gamble. Also( like you said) players dnt come cheap again |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:11am On Aug 07, 2025 |
afrodoc2: If we add Sesko and Baleba Top 4 is achievable but we still might not get it as long as we have clowns in goal.
INEOS should do one last good thing after these Sesko and Baleba deals by signing a decent GK.
Right now, i am thinking we could come 5th. The teams that finished in the Top 4 last season are also buying players to improve their squad. We can make Top 4 if everything clicks but i will wait to see how things develop over the next few months first.
Anything lower than 5th would be a major disappointment. Hujmland( sporting) n Balena Who will u prefer we sign? Baleba is premier league proven but Hujmland has worked with Amorim b4 so can easily integrate him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 7:27am On Aug 07, 2025 |
afrodoc: Baleba is teammates with Onana and Mbeumo.
Baleba and Yoro were teammates.
We have too many agents for this deal to collapse. Yet people r saying we don't v the "pull power" again. From report also Baleba want his price cut down so he can come. If Amorim doesn't make top 4 he shud be arrested |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 1:42pm On Aug 06, 2025 |
Even if talk r still ongoing it seems Man utd v reach a 5yrs agreement with Sesko . ls a bad transfer widow for Newcastle. Every player just dey reject dem. They might not allow lsak go again. As for those saying we don't v pull in terms of attracting players l just laugh. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 7:07pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
patrickmuf: Rio that was signed from Chelsea academy and has been exposed to the limelight for sometime is who you want to compare with Kone? Abeg let us trust the coach for this one. If he is given a chance now and struggles, his confidence might be dealt a big blow. Y can't he expose kone to the limelight starting now then gradually ease him in lf he his gud enough. l rest my case |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 7:03pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
larride: Is Ria going to start in Liverpool midfield when the league starts? That will largely depends on assessment of slot. lf he is gud enough y not. Youngsters r playing for arsernal n other teams in Epl |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 6:06pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
patrickmuf: Please reveal your true identity. Are you in anyway related to Kone or by any chance, his agent? 😂😂😂 V watch 16yrs old Ria played for Liverpool in their preseason matches y nt give playing time to kone ? lf he is not good he can be drop |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 4:25pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
afrodoc: Strikers are overpriced these days because there are so few good ones so it is difficult.
It is not impossible but just difficult. Our scouting is not the best and our negotiation is even worse. Bad combo. Even if strikers are over price are u saying we can't get one for lesser price in Epl even lf nt too popular? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:59pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
larride: If we sell Hojlund and Garnacho, can we still get a solid midfielder? We v completely demarketed all our players . l dnt really understand the complain here |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:53pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
spillo1: Go for a cheap striker in Delap with premier league experience you guys complain,go for the expensive one from another league you still complain. I have come to the conclusion United fans can never be satisfied with anything. l taught Delap rejected us? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:12pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
patrickmuf: Where do you read excuses?
It will amount to telling yourself a lie if you look at our midfield and think we are good to go for the season. When I saw our lineup vs Everton, I hinted that we could do with a midfielder for the money we plan to spend on Sesko, that's how much I think of our midfield as the one area we need to fix... l took one some time off from work so l can relax but what am reading /seeing is increasing my blood pressure. R we going to v another bad season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:04pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
afrodoc2: If we get him, it had better work out. The difference between him and Rasmus is that he is not big and fast for nothing. He at least appears able to use his size and speed effectively.
The other crucial factor is that Mbeumo and Cunha will share the burden with him. Can't this money get us a midfielder/ striker lf our scouting team know what they r doing |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:02pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
We r paying huge money for an average player now that can easily flop( l hope not) Tommoro we will start complaining of being saddle with same average players with huge wage bill. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 1:50pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
patrickmuf: Safe for a few...I mean those who want Amorim to use a washed-up Casemiro, average Ugarte, injury-prone Mount, young Mainoo and inconsistent Bruno to finish in the top 4. Excuses, excuses... so indirectly ur already preparing for a bad season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 1:47pm On Aug 05, 2025 |
Leyqute: We just put in a bid for Sesko. 75m+10m Euros Hmmm |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 7:11am On Aug 05, 2025 |
ChristineC: I don't understand where these clubs generate such valuations from? 90m?? what tf has he achieved?? also if the club have anything near this as budget for a striker, why did we not get Osihmen again  l think Sesko n his agent are playing smart. They are using mind games to up his value. l liken it to Canciedo saga. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 7:38pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 5:37pm On Aug 04, 2025 |
dreamxhaser: Honestly, saying that Amorim is the problem is a bit too harsh. The players just aren't good enough. We've had different managers, but it's the same story—so is Amorim really the problem?
Who among the players in the midfield would make it into the starting eleven for teams like Chelsea, Manchester City, or Liverpool? We all know the answer is none.
The only thing these players know how to do is play counter-attacking football. I would prefer that we just play counter attacking long balls and skip the midfield, but it seems the club doesn't want that. So let's forget about it and focus on the pressing issues.
Let's be honest, Cunha and Mbuemo made our attack more effective than the days of Rashford and his teammates. For the first time in years, I can feel some level of hope whenever the ball is moving forward, unlike before, when I was 90% certain they would make stupid runs or just pass the ball backward.
That shows you how players can change the dynamic of a team. For now, we don't have the privilege of playing every player in the position we want. The only messed-up thing is that we're going for a striker instead of a midfielder. Coaches (since sir Alex left) have been buying their own players. LVG, MOU, ETH etc all bought their so prefer players but we are still not moving forward.l dnt like dwelling in the past.Amorim is on board now so let face him.He shud bring out the best in this team .That's y he was employed |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:41am On Aug 04, 2025 |
Goosethetruth: George Orwell stated that: "To see what is in front of ones nose needs a constant struggle. "
While every fan wants the best for Manchester United,our personal biases prevents us from seeing what is before our very own eyes. United played this tournament with fellow mid table teams like West Ham,Bournemouth and Everton and critically watching this team it is obvious that all is not well with the players in the system. Even the games that United won were struggles and it is very obvious that in the first 5-6 games when the Premier league begins this United team is going to struggle. I am not trying to be a messenger of doom but fans need to be realistic and admit this system is like a strait jacket on most of these players. A coach who stubbornly insists he has only one way of playing football without a different plan will always be exposed brutally in this Premier league. No leave him.. he thinks here is Portuguese league. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:20am On Aug 04, 2025 |
afrodoc2: Ugarte's shortcomings are not a surprise to me cos i predicted them. The hope now is that Amorim is good enough as a coacch to improve the players he met and that he and the management can add quality players.
Even 10% improvement across board will do wonders. We don't need any single player to suddenly improve by 50-100%. "The hope now is that Amorim is good enough as a coach to improve the players he met".. These r yr words. lt summarizes all I v been saying. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:14am On Aug 04, 2025 |
Canciedo everybody is praising now was he that good when he came to Chelsea? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:11am On Aug 04, 2025 |
Leyqute: Ugarte’s biggest disability is his intelligence on the ball. I don’t know what happened to him yesterday but he was all over the place in the second half.
When it comes to getting the ball from defenders and progressing it up the pitch, he falls flat on his face. His first touch is suspect and he doesn’t possess those tangible qualities like a half-turn, shoulder drop, etc, to beat his man, evade the press and get the ball forward. His passes are suspect as well.
I don’t know if it’s the pressure or what, he’s just very poor in those areas. Almost gave a goal away yesterday because of this.
That’s why we need a Baleba-mould signing pronto. Dnt be surprise lf Baleb finally comes he will also enter into default mode under this Amorim system. lnfact can u tell me one man utd player excelling well under his formation? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:05am On Aug 04, 2025 |
afrodoc2: What formation was ETH using? And in what light did it put the same players? Yr point sir? ETH is gone n shudnt be use as benchmark for Amorim tatics/ perfomance He was sacked for a reason. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:46am On Aug 04, 2025 |
ln civil engineering there are sometimes u overdesign a structure leading to waste of materials n energy whereas a simple design can solve same problem. Amorim is "overdesigning" this team in a stupid egoistic attempt to prove a point. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:39am On Aug 04, 2025 |
Trevor012: Some people are blind. Alot of them were struggling to play "almighty Amorim system" yesterday. This is a quality team that suppose make top 4 .Amorim need to understand his players n know what role fit. Most times they play out of position. Amad is a born attacker. Trying to change that will reduce his output. Defensive midfielders shud do their work so Bruno dnt mark much This will allow him that freedom in dictating that midfield |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 10:00am On Aug 04, 2025 |
We definitely need a defensive midfielder but I don't think Ugarte is that bad . ls Amorim formation that putting some of these players in bad light. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:36pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
Leyqute: Sesko has rejected Newcastle. Might be a Hojlund plus cash swap for Sesko. That he is problem. A simple Yes or No will stop all these drama. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 2:31pm On Aug 03, 2025 |
TrebleChamp: Me even want Watkins if Aston Villa does not over valuate him, Sesko is 22years and still raw for the crazy fee Leipzig is asking for... V been doing research n profiling on this sesko guy he is not worth that money. We should get Baleba . We v enough people upfront that can score. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 9:41am On Aug 03, 2025 |
Am getting of this Sesko drama. lf he is nt ready come we should move on. Their are still alot of players out there who will want to sign for us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 11:24am On Aug 02, 2025 |
hensben: Look elsewhere in Europe. Serie A clubs now struggle to sign players for more than €50 million. La Liga? Real Madrid, one of the richest clubs in history, is targeting free agents, while Barcelona signed Marcus Rashford on loan in 2025. This is the reality. Outside the Premier League, the market is shrinking.
Meanwhile, the Premier League continues to dominate financially and globally, thanks in large part to the aggressive vision clubs like Chelsea brought early on. Without that early disruption, the Premier League might still be stuck in the past, just another national league instead of a global phenomenon.
Instead of fans of Manchester United, Arsenal, and Liverpool saying “thank you” to Chelsea for revolutionizing the Premier League, not once, but twice, they continue to hate. Alongside pundits like Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville, who seem more emotional than analytical when it comes to Chelsea, they dismiss what the club has done, all while benefiting from the very system Chelsea helped build.
Chelsea helped build the modern Premier League. And under Boehly, they might just be saving its future. This will be better on Chelsea thread. |
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