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cool4ny:
[center][/center]"This morning, a white man just became Muslim. I saw him with my own eyes"

What does this statement got to do with what is going in the world? do you know how many Muslims are converting everyday? My mum was a Muslim from a BIG Muslim family.

Can you answer the following questions?

1. Why is it a Muslim law to kill a converter? am
2. Why are Muslims happy when people(including Muslim) died on 9/11 and 7/7
3. Why must you spread your religion with sword.
4. A girl was killed by members of her family(her dad and brothers) in UK because she wanted to marry a non Muslim.
5.Why are women treated like slaves( i saw it in Sudan)
6. Why would a Muslim go to heaven for killing a non-Muslim( a preacher of hate said this in UK, we saw it life on TV)
I can go on but i not against any religion but i don't understand why Islam is full of hatred.

@cool4ny,

You've said it all! How can a religion that lays claim to peace be full of violence, hatred and irrationality

why is it that you cannot have a debate with its practitioners without them trying to disapprove of another religion (esp. christianity) without answering the question

and how long are people going to turn a blind eye to what is blatantly before them

Let's call a spade, a spade.

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jaybaby:
Charlize Theron Is The Best African Actress

i wan ask oooooooooooooo

she don act 4 any AFRICAN MOVIE before?

She's Pretty but she looks like Jessica ALBA

@ UCHE

u wan fflw am go d WEDDING?

@ ENUGU

share I.V ooooooooo make this GOOD thing of life Reach 'em life 22222222222

abeg @jaybaby, no mind dem jare! not to worry,when that good thing comes, we will make jolly-jolly

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Uche2nna:
@enugu I don tire for ka anyi na ele anya levels!I want ugbua ugbua levels(now now levels)! jst jking
But seriously wey the pix of the cake nawwwwwwwww

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@Uche2nna

Onye ndidi n'eli az'ukpo Marriage no be rush-rush affair. I willi get dia!

Seriously, I lost one of the films,think I forgot it at the reception venue so you'll wait just a little longer, biko nwanna.

_{and Charlize is still not African!}

Drusilla:
God ordered that men marry women they had raped in the bible.

Tamar the sister of one of Davids son, after he raped her, said that the sending her away was worse than the rape of her.

The duty of the person was far more important than the love factor.

Your free to believe what you want about God and love but I just go by the bible.

@Drusilla,
with all due respect and i mean this in the best possible of ways, but are you married to someone you don't love. Because you sound as if you are and if you had to do it, then the rest of us must!!

I sincerely hope you're not thinking that the idea of love we're talking about here is simply that of feelings; no, it's far much more than that.
However, it's certainly not duty either.Yuck!!! God is certainly not going to drag you by the ear and force you to marry someone .
And just for the record, can you justify your Old testament quotation with some from the New because there must be an agreement between the old and the new, I believe.

My sister, I don't know how you see it o! but I know that love is[b] important[/b] to prevent the resentment and frustration that will come[and it will come] in a loveless marriage. I also know that if God gives us without sorrow - that good job, admission into school, an affordable accomodation,e.t.c. then a life-partner shouldn't be the one thing we want from him that will come with sorrow.

peace

ps. @rotbog,
Unfortunately, it's not me. Nice of you to ask though.

Uche2nna:
@enugu Wishing your sis happy married life.I am Impatiently waiting for the cake even if na for pix and I am also Patiently waiting for your own wedding cake!I hope say that one no go be for pix!

@Uche2nna,

nwannem, thanks Will pass on your good wishes. As for mine , k'anyi n'en'e anya (make we dey look eye)

@ebonymanUK,

Your best bet will be amazon.co.uk. that's where I bought mine

Expose him, expose him, expose him!!!! For how long will we continue to bury our heads in the sand Nigeria has not moved on because of this mentality. If we indeed want to make a change then let's do all we can and that includes exposing any ole, ony'oshi and barawo in our midst.

like others have said an anonymous tip-off to EFCC should do the job. Ribadu is more than ready to cart them all of to where they belong - the dungeons!!!!!!

Emad:
I wonder who fooled Amechi Moonaagu that he could act? he is such a bad actor, one never gets to hear what he says when he is shouting, and something needs to be done about his stomach, ( whatever is in there)

@Emad,
lol
abeg i like Amechi Muonagor; I think he's a good actor but I agree with you that he needs to be slapped to reduce the volume of his tirades and to empty his  stomach before it bursts on us and reveals the contents

Topic: Can God Lead You To Someone You Don't Love In Marriage?

Answer - A resounding No!

God is not an author of confusion; He is a God of Love. What am I even saying, GOD is Love and His blessings maketh rich and addeth no sorrow.(Prov.10:22)

Have you ever seen a choir member who hates singing or a keyboardist who postitively hates what he/she is doing. sure sometimes when God is 'leading' us into something, we might be reluctant at first but we eventually, with much prayer and waiting on Him, (not on Pastors, neighbours and friends, ) will be at peace with His leading. And that is the operative word, peace. HE will not lead you where His grace cannot keep you; like a loveless marriage for instance.

This is a true story:
He was led by God to marry this woman who he didn't love; even as a deacon in church, he was having flings because he hated his wife and wanted to be free of her. he fell in love with another woman and it was this love that put an end to his infidelities. According to him 'I couldn't imagine myself with another woman' (his wife included).

Fortunately/unfortunately, (depending on how you see it) his wife died and now he is (happily) married to his true love.

Moral of this story - God will Not lead you to marry someone you don't love because He knows that marriage is hard enough without you getting into it with low expectations/no love (which is the most essential ingredient).

While the man in the above may be blamed for his misfortunes, let's take heed. Most men I spoke with told me that when a man has all he needs at home i.e. in his wife, he doesn't see the need to 'go out'. Fine, that may not be the case for all men. But think about  it - if you don't love this person, how are you going to *****, eat, drink and share a 'till- death-do-us-part' life with them. Quite frankly, even as I'm typing it now, I'm getting the shivers. It doesn't bear thinking about!

So to cap it all -Can God Lead You To Someone You Don't Love In Marriage?

[b]NO!
Mba!
Otio!
Nyet!
Nien!
Ah-Ah![/b]etc

to all the muslims on this forum, I just want to know why violence always follows any perceived criticism(s) to Islam. Why must there be violent reactions to words spoken against Islam.

I've asked this question on another thread but all I kept getting was comparisons between Islam and Christianity, and so on. While not claiming that christians are perfect, I would like to know what the peaceful muslims have to say about their fellow 'un-peaceful' brethren.

So please can someone, say, Olabowale or Brownsuga, give me an answer/explanation?

much obliged

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Uche2nna:
Lol .You are one hell of a funny lady.But I am still keeping an open mind over the issue.In as much as I know and believe the historical hue of all this I would not want to base my ostracization of Chalize(or wetin be her name sef) on what her ancestors did in the past.It is like saying that all the children of thieves are all thieves and they should be shot!As for skin color,when they say as long as you are black then you are African I really wonder if a Jamaican(who is obviously black) is more african than the sister of my friend who is an Albino!
Honestly,I do really like to separate the sheep from the goats but I can not seem to find an all encompassing parameter.Your parameter of history and skin color are enticing but under closer scrutiny they might not hold enough water.
Y u no tell us say u don dey get married?Abi u no want make we chop cake

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@Uche2nna, nwannem,
Like I said earlier -in my own opinion What else can I say Darkman is still determined to zero me off. and with ethnicity, it's always this way;who is what, and what is who?

Anyway, the wedding was my sister's, the cake is available (virtually) will send you a picture when i can figure out my scanner. the real thing, well k'anyi n'en'anya (make we dey look)

And as for my keyboard, I've changed it so

and @Darkmanzero,


So I've tripped myself up in your own summation, so what You obviously don't suffer from such weaknesses. If I don't see her as African, I don't ! Cikena! If you see her as African, then you do!

So take a chill pill! You see me as racist; good luck to you! Am glad someone sees the lighter side of all this. At the end of the day, it's all about what one thinks. You think what you think; I think what I think and that's all there is to it. So long as my 'thinking' does not include any evil intentions to the said person, then

it's obvious you didn't read the first few lines of my reply to Uche2nna otherwise you would have seen the word mischief[/b]! and therefore read between the lines. But hey, like i said before [b]you think what you think

And, I'm still laughing actually, I just have a smile on my face.

Just curious, what is Darkmanzero? sounds like the title of an action film and no I'm not trying to be friendly, I'm just curious. The winner of this argument is the least of my worries. In Bleep DMZ, You win!!!!

There, now can I be relieved of your oh-so-serious replies. The woman is there, me am here arguing about nothing. abeg!!!

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Uche2nna:
@enugu In your opinion who is an African?Just curious

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@Uche2nna,

Mmmm,  the plot thickens. Why? You must have thought about your  own notion of Africannes? Anyway, don't mind me I have a wedding tomorrow, can't sleep and in a mischievious mood. For some reason, defining one's ethnic  group/leaning, always puts me in a mischievious mood because there's usually  no end to the arguments. Okay, I know, enough of the rigmarole.

An African is one who can be identified as one. Just like a European is one wh o can  be identified as one as  well Asians. Nobody  ev er  mistakes  S aima  my  co ll eag   u e for an African even though part of her ancestry is Kenyan ; she's always identified as Asian but oluo na n k'an yi, people that stole from us, oppressed us and took over  will begin to c laim some bogus African ancestry. How many  Eng li  s h people who's grandparents where in  I  nd i a     in  the past c  enturies   lay claim  t o being Indian They don't  b e  cause,they know they are not.


so you are African as Peter Tosh described us 'where you co me from as long as y o   u  'r e  a black man, yu're an African.

None of those of African heritage (i.e. those with a d arker skin hue) living/having lived in the West all  their lives/their ancestors lives are described as anything else.

I  know that these points can be shot down in one fell s    woo p as to why  they[b] may[/b] not hold water but that is what this 'Lander thinks and has to contend with

Ka Chineke mezie okw u       

_{please  exc   use the jagajaga t  y    pi ng            .  my keyboard is obviously not ha ppy at t his t opic}

You know what U che 2nna, I'll h ave t o c on tin ue this after the wedding. My keyboard is giving me wahala and my brain has also joined in and I doubt that I 'm making much sense. But seriously, no one eve r calls Indians or Pakistanis by any other name/description, no matte how long they've been in Africa. The Oyin b o' s over here do not identify us as one of them so i find it wh en th ey begin to claim. And another thing, how come none of these oyinob africans ever come from N aija

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Uche2nna:
@ Darkman zero and Enugu.I can not understand you guys argument.Are you talking about an actress who is African or are u talking about an African who is an actress

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@Uche2nna

Me sef, I think i've lost the plot! I just disagreed with the description of Charlize Theron as an 'African' and that was it! Darkman wanted to zero me off!

Anyway, long and short of it- the topic =Charlize Theron Is The Best African Actress

My reply- maybe a good actress, in some people's opinion, but definitely not an African actress. That was it o!

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jaybaby:
Enugu what Film plzzzz

Cuz it's only Ramsy av seen-when given a village Role he interprets it like MAD.

IF it's Ramsey Nouah forget it he gives u what u want- dnt even go there @ all!

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@jaybaby,

i can't remember the title but he was some kind of village warrior who fell in love with Georgina Onuoha. the film was quite interesting but the main put off was Ramsey; how can a village champion, I mean warrior be speaking 'supree, supree'

I will go there again, Jaybaby with all due respect. He is an excellent actor, that I do not dispute but he should dispense with this fake foreign (only God-knows-what) accent and then you will see the real Ramsey!

_{hope that has put me in your good books!}

@ Darkman zero,

Sorry to disappoint you, I wasn't being friendly at the end of my post.; I was just laughing all the way through typing it because I  just knew the type of response I would get and guess what, you didn't disappoint me!

I can just imagine you typing away, gnashing your teeth at my 'blasphemy', fire blazing in your eyes and smoke pouring through your nostrils, all the while muttering-'shes african, she's african, she's african, simply because I poked you where it appeared to hurt.

You can take my response in what sense you will, call me racist or colourist or whatever but like Madira stated, it is amazing how someone can say that any resulting ill feeling is sour grapes.

Be that as it may, you're more than entitled to your own opinion and as for 'lashing out' at me,
                         

And I'm still laughing, honest. 

@Backslider,

To be honest, I find it extremely hard to follow your logic; maybe it's just the way you write. I think you should try backing up what you are saying with scriptures so it makes for an easier read.

And another thing, don't assume that I don't read the Word simply because, I don't write long, rambling statements like you do. You haven't even quoted the words of Christ! All you have succeeded in doing, is trying to use your human wisdom, coupled with a few holy-sounding ideas to put your ideas forward.

Don't get me wrong, I do not doubt your sincerity of heart; I just think that you would do better if you let the Word of God speak for itself/Himself; it/He is more efficacious, trust me.

If you ask me, you're the one who's not getting it nor are you giving it to anybody

Hello peeps, we r different peeps, well some want to meet their old pals while some never want to meet them again. I guess I want to meet mine, if u were in
Atara primary school, Aguda 1981- 1984
Mayflower Junior School between 1984 -1989, shakirat olomo,the oguntimilehins, chief (sport master),
F.G.C, Malali, Kaduna between 1990 - 1995 adaobi ngumezi,
Science,Unilag 1997 -2002


holla me if u were in any of these places at about these times.
take care

@akinnaija,

was in FGCK as well but left  before you. However, have a sister that was there about that time, so will ask if she knows.

cheers

Quote from: dakmanzero on June 02, 2006, 10:44 AM

if you are racist, you have no right to complain about racism done unto you

I'm glad you used the word 'if'. So what if I'm not?

As such, I don't need to convince you of anything. You are racist, I am not. different points of view- we are both entitled to. I simply will not listen to you when you complain.


So one minute, it is if I'm racist the next, you've made up your mind that I am. You agree that we are entitled to different points of view and yet you describe my point of view as a complaint

For the record, I have not only experienced racial prejudice, I was born into a prejudiced society and grew up there. My father eventually relocated from the UK to Nigeria almost squarely on grounds of racism and the 'glass ceiling effect'. We lived in an almost exclusively white environment, considering the nature of my fathers profession at that time, and frequently came in contact with less-privileged and envious white families.

It might or might not surprise you that your experience is pretty common for those whose parents studied/worked abroad especially in the 60 's-early 80's. So I don't see how that has anything to do with disagreeing with Charlize Theron's supposed 'Africaness'

As such, if I can choose not to be racist despite all this, it should tell you something.

Again, disagreeing with Charlize Theron's 'Africaness', is definitely not racism! It is simply disagreeing with Charlize Theron's 'Africaness'!!! My brother, where do you get off and why are you seeing my point of view through racist eyes? Perhaps  your experience left you more scarred than you care to admit. Not to worry, we all have our secret/hidden traumas.

Again, from my point of view, she ain't African.  Cikena. Just like there ain't no Black English people. Just British!!!. Now if you still want to see that as racist, then you sure do have racist issues!!

Take am easy bro . Life's too short She ain't African, She ain't African, and SHE AIN'T AFRICAN

Test every spirit/ Test all things; hold fast to what is good (ref: 1Thess.5:21)

ABeg make una no butcher the author of the thread. If he wants to know about MFM, just enlighten him and not begin to read meanings into his questions. What if he is interested in the church and wants to know if it's the right one for him

Some people are already beginning to subtly threaten with 'ekpe' thinly disguised as scriptural injuctions. So we should just jump on the bandwagon abi? because some MFMites are here. Have you forgotten that Pastor- King something or the other who set fire to his members Perhaps if people had made enquires first, they wouldn't have fallen into such hands.

Even our Lord Jesus said to His disciples that those who are NOT against him, are FOR Him. So, fellow christians, let us take care. God is more than able to fight for Himself. What of people who have cursed HIm and later repented? Abeg una take am easy. Let those who know the answer to the question, give it without, threats, curses, and all other innuendoes of doom and gloom

Cheers

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Backslider:
Jesus said he does not condemn any man but those that don't do his will. I did not backslide from deeper life I did back slide from God. And i am trailing my route back home To God.

Why do the youths live Deeperlife? All men run away from a great light when Darkness is in their hearts. The fact is That deeperlife addresses the truth and every ministry that is from God has it is mission. You know That if it were my own will I would do more things even wilder (holier).

You cannot over emphsize Holiness The deeper lifers have it. "But not all Isreal are Isreal" The bible says holiness without which no man shall see God.

1) Clothing

When a man or woman wear a clothes he must potray Jesus but to Sinners and Beleivers Be he has been given the power To manufacture Holy Thoughts and picture by Jesus. the clothing of this people are filled with contentment. i know what I am talking about. I have worn designer clothing either bought for me or i bought myself there is great burden. I have seen Great men in great countries that are overly simple. The fact is that we are trying to overemulate our So called Colonial master when it is just a thought that will need the desire to dress for jesus to destroy this.

Tell me will the boy or men dress like women if that is what pertains to everyone ? The Children are deceivers and The man watch on.

2) Jewelry.

The matter of jewelry is The most Bizzare. and Earth men tend to justify what is Male Jewelry And Female Jewelry. But You see that all men can where any type of jewelry, Infact The kids are now wearing jewelry all over their body Not just the ear! Can you go and preach to them to say it is not right to where rings any where in my body. I know many things and God has shown me many things. There women that put rings on their private part what do you call That? can you argue against her for her? can you Judge her ? What will you use to Judge her action (GODS WORDS OF COURSE). In America where all our fashion comes from The Negroid Spends Money on Jewelry To the tune of thousands of dollars. People are complaining That Kids in the project ( slum) Got nothing, I singer gets money and then gets alot platinum and wears it and starts boasting of the wealth he has. Putting Jewelry on your body is deceitful and the Youths That are sinful will not stay in a church that preaches Piety and holiness unto Jesus.

3) Fornication

Because of fornication almost not present the children will not like a place where Sexual exuberance will be displayed The principles of courtship and marriage are very rigid In deeper life and this does not mean all members Adhere. Some have fallen and are still in the church I can not here condemnation and remain There. I can not allow my conscience to continue to condemn me so I needed to leave. I have since desired to get back may be not to deeper but to a holiness life ever more deeper than that of my mentor in the flesh Brother Kumuyi Most DIVINE.


4) Perming of Hair.

Youths of the world like flashy things Especially with the Black youths. One of the sins of the Black race is Materialism and That is why we don't know who we are any more we have sold our brothers to slavery we have sold our country for food clothing cars our richmen can't sit in Molue (so that the Molue can be upgraded better seats Aircondition) with us the desire to aquire material things supersedes all. before the women were puting wigs on now they are stiching wigs to their heads. If there is a technology to grow white hair the black people with do all to get it done. what will you say about people adding silicon to their body They call it plastic surgery ? You have not seen nothing yet Evil is coming The true Church will be persecuted by the church!!!! Santan will enter the sanctuary and defile it. He will make mince meat of some so called Holy men and Even deeper lifers ! Only they that know the lord will do exploits for Jesus. forget You have not seen Sin yet ! And you will see holiness stand out Have you forgotten when the angel came to tell Lot ? THE PEOPLE WANTED TO SLEEP WITH THE HOLY ANGEL OF THE LORD. YOU WILL SOON SEE THAT GAY PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SLEEP WITH HOLY PASTORS OF THE LORD BUT HOLINES WILL STAND PEPPLE WILL GIVE TESTIMONY OF SIN AND PEOPLE WILL CLAP AT THIS It is Coming!!!!!!!!!!!! prosperity messages can not do anything about what is coming. none of our mothers look african any more. Yes the outside is meaningless But can you drink water from a dirty cup? out of the heart the mouth speaketh there is nothing you desire on your body that it did not come from your heart!
we are not Materialistic? Why is that we have so much and still beg?

I have said little I know Jesus will recall me in the last assault on the devil i will be purified and I will war by Jesus Only.

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@backslider,

This is the problem with some people, you ask them a simple question and they begin to quote an epistle for you! What has all you 'preached' now got to do with why youths run away from DLBC? Okay so some don't want to hear the'Holiness' message but what of those that want to, but still leave? Has it not occured to you that Christianity is a well-rounded way of life? What about those who are 'Holy' but do not have love (and I mean the agape love) what happens to them. I left DBLC because they were most concerned about the outward man to the detriment of the inward man and your gospel seems to be doing the same. You appear to be more concerned  about the way people look than who they are on the inside. Let me tell you from experience, if you are one with God on the inside, then it will automatically show on the outside, you cannot give what you don't have!!!
So let's focus on why youths run away from DLBC and then and only then, might we able to find the answer(s) and then proffer solutions.

Cheers

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Panache:
The main problem is our love for trying to sound foreign when I can hear the thick wazobia accent in the background. If I need to hear akata talk, I rather take a drive downtown than waste money on fakes. Anyday I will stick to a Mainframe movie, at least I will be delighted that I'm watching a through Naija movie. My Jamaican colleague keep wondering who does the sub-titling in the Yoruba movies. God dey

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@Panache

My fellow Nairalander, please tell them ooo! Their attempt at a pseudo-British/American/Canadian/Australian/God knows what accent is pathetic to say the least.

Not just Mainframe but some and I repeat, some 'village' movies don't do too badly except for some where you see people like Ramsey Nouah speaking 'fonee' in the village!!! How annoying

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dakmanzero:
African-american is a term only used when it is neccesary to distinguish americans based on skin-colour, just like chinese-americans and so on. At the end of the day, they are AMERICANS.

White africans deserve no less. Skin colour should not determine a person's heritage. she was born and raised by peopple who wereborn and raised in Africa, so she is African. She has an African passport, and she swears allegiance to an African Nation. If war were to break out, she would be conscripted to and African army. She is African in every sense of the word. She ceases to be African when she decides to accept citizenship of another country, and denounce her African citizenship.

Do unto others. I'm sure if there was an isreal-palestine debate over here many of those calling for theron's head would be on the side of the Isrealis. If you can support them, why not support white Africans?

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For your information, darkmanzero, skin does determine a person's heritage! Whether we like it or not!

We can argue from here to kingdom but at the end of the day, if Charlize and I were to walk into a village in some

far-flung European country, I would be stared at and ignored, amongst other things; while Charlize would be

welcomed and feted. It has happened. Meanwhile both persons were 'Africans'.

So Charlize Theron, best 'African' Actress I don't know about that.

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alheri:
@reba, whats getting you upset? No one here is speaking rubbish!
Shes not South-African, shes caucasian- South-African! She can never be a real South-African or African for that
matter, whether her greatest grandest father claims to be South-African!And it does matter whether you're Black or white in case you don't know, thats why blacks are refered to as African-americans and so on in the Americas and Europe!

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@alheri,
Na u tok true bo!! Which greatest grandfather No be them tief de land If we go dem place, dem go agree say we be English . Abeg no mind these apologists bo! Anytime dem see white person, dem go begin meskaform

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dakmanzero:
White south Africans are Africans.

Resenting them because of Apartheid is just sour grapes. The fact is that her ancestors have lived here too long to call anywhere else home. skin colour is a moot point. or will u say that all the yellow yellow boys and girls that u all drool over are not african, afterall they are yellow, not black

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@darkmanzero,

I take it you are either a 'colonial mentalist', or you have never experienced the abject

prejudice that comes from having a darker skin colour or that you have no understanding of the history of South

Africa and how the caucasians came to be living there. I don't suppose you know that the present South African

government has begun to return the farmlands stolen by the white farmers (probably Charlize's g'father) back to the

original owners- the INDIGENOUS South Africans. If, based on your argument, that the length of time they've lived

there qualifies them to be South Africans, then why does the govt see fit to take the land and return it to the rightful

owners

My bros, wake up and smell the palmwine!!! She might have won the Oscars- good on her- but she is CERTAINLY NO AFRICAN!!!!!

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Backslider:
I have a very different view I am a backslider from the faith and I have known somethings that you don't have to be a deeper lifer to know. The matter of dressing and hair is one of the greatest divide of black holy christian. It is a problem for even black non christian this is the Issue of Imagery. It is sad that it will take deeper life to correct this anormaly.

I will give you a little insight of black people. Our hair is not like that of the white people and the white people will never want there hair like us. I regard that if we allow perm of hair we should allow yellow fever. The origin of perming is from america and we as black people never thought ourselves different until we were enslaved for about 400 years. Did you know that the blacks wanted to blend in that is why they went into this senseless cosmetism.

The black people WANTED TO BE LIKE THE WHITE so that they could be accepted and that is why they went into this evil mutation. The agent of this Was a woman. The Imagery of the NEGROID people was dark evil and they must conform to image of their master the white man. There is another thought that the Negroid at that time needed to look like the white men so that it gives the a sense of superiority over there follow Negroid. This imagery conflict was heightened by hollywood and if you want to know The richest Billionaire ( I think she was first the billionaire in US of America) made her money of the desire to Change the image of the negroid people.

Imagine how much is spent on hair perming so girls are promiscuos because they want their hair permed. Look at our women leaders they are not praying about this. It is not enough that we talk about it. WHY SHOULD PEOPLE GO TO HEL BECAUSE THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEIR LOOKS. We can talk and write books about this there is a need for prayer for those that are children of God. As for me and the condemned some of us have seen reason not to perm our hair.

I used to attend deeperlife and I fell away because I was not grounded and I have God speaking to me everyday and explaining to me and learnt alot and I am sad that I have tried with all my strength to Return To Salvation Sanctification and a spirit filled life. I will wait for God's power to sweep me I don't trust no man only God.

Deeper Life is a good church i know there are weak ones and this is the responsibility of the strong ones to devote time to prayer. I know there will another church with 105 % because No Holiness No heaven. Note one sad but yet truth not all the people in deeper life will go to heaven so it is DEEPER LIFE + SINLIFE= HELL
DEEPERLIFE + HOLINESS UNTO GOD = HEAVEN

I am tired of Differentiation Give me HOLINESS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT I WILL WN THE WORLD FOR JESUS MY GOD

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@Backslider,

So after all said and done, what is the answer to the question? The issue of permed hair or no permed hair is

the least of our worries as christians. You may have natural hair and still be a demon in suit!.

You fell away because according to you, 'because I was not grounded'. Is this the fault

DLBC or just

So tell us, Why Do Youths Run Away From Deeper Life Bible Church and why specifically did you?

Save the lecture of permed hair for another thread, where it will be more appropriate.

Cheers

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YinkaGal:
Whats Up With This Bleaching Phenemeon , I mean i have some friends and the way their trying to hide from being black it's unbelivable , one in particular loves to wear Blonde weave , and loves to bleach "everytime i ask her what she rubbing on her skin" she's like "I want my body to be bright and fresh" and i'm thinking in my head clean your body then, whats up with that i mean why do some african/carrabien women like to bleach whats the point the body becomes uneven ,and peeling urggghh,

Some Famous sellouts/bleacher
-Micheal Jackson (maybe infact all  the jackson)
 
Black is beautifull? is this true now ?

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@YinkaGal


Thank you, thank you and thank you once again for posting this thread. I've been dying to do the same myself but since I'm new to NairaLand, fear no gree me but I'm glad that you've had the courage to do so.

I use the word courage because you need it to confront people who bleach. It makes it worse if you don't bleach and your skin is a shade lighter than their's; then they feel you're trying to be funny about it and then they get all defensive and agressive.

My sister, to answer your topic, black people or people of African heritage bleach because they've been made to feel that the lighter your skin, the finer you are and they have refused to re-educate themselves so they continue to look for means and ways to look light or even white.

You want a list of famous sellouts? My sister, it's longer than my arm

*Awilo Logomba

*Almost all the female actors in African-American sit-coms/soaps

*Eucharia Anunobi

*Clarion Chukwura

*Rita Dominic

*Omotola Jalade-Ekeinde (hers is one leg in and one leg out)

*Patti Labelle (go and look at her pictures when she was younger)

The list is long, unfortunately

So as you can see, my sister, they will continue because even the role models are doing it. In fact in some cases, your chances at success are based on you skin colour; sad but true. In some other cases, you are (if you allow it) judged by your skin colour. Unfortunately, we have done nothing to change such attitudes and perceptions and so it continues. Even girls as young as 16 are getting into the act.

So black people who have allowed this mentality to be their guiding force, have bought into this myth and are harming themselves daily by frying their epidermis and dermis into crisp proportions; thereby turning themselves into the equivalent of 'boli' (aka roast plantain) in the process.

In some cases, they remind you of meat that has gone rotten i.e. fanta face and coca-cola legs/knuckles

So until there's some form of agressive re-education and information on the dangers and long-term harmful effects of bleaching, your question will continue to be asked.


However, to answer your last question, Black is beautifull? is this true now ?

The answer is yes!!!!! Look at

*Genevieve Nnaji

*Stephanie Okereke

*Lauryn Hill

*Kelly Rowland

*Caroline Chikezie

*Angela Basset

*Oluchi Onwuagba

*Naomi Campbell

*Nike Oshinowo

Fortunately, this list is also longer than my arm ;

Psalm 20 has become the Bible passage; also Nahum 1 vs. 9. It used to be Heb.2vs 14-15 but I guess with time and circumstance, they change.

Is there anything like spiritual attack?

A resounding yes!!!. However, the word spiritual suggests that it is not open to the physical eye so if your spiritual eyes are not open(ed) there's everything possibility that you won't see it.

That's not to say that everything evil that happens is a spiritual attack but trust me, in this journey to life eternal, there is no demilitarized zone; so if you're not on the Lord's side, then you're on the devil's side. With the constant battle between good and evil (sceptics, even blockbuster movies reflect this), you will be attacked, whether you see or not, and whether you believe it or not.

Africans, we are more attuned to the spiritual side of things, 'specially since there's still a lot of development going on in our societies. That is not to say that the Western world does not acknowledge spirituality but not just as much as we do; I suppose that's why when we see a fly at night, it automatically is seen as a witch or something similar because ordinarily flies are not seen at night.

Once again, is there anything like spiritual attack? Yep!

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Some people think it is the Spiritually immanture that walk in the freedom of christ. But that is not the case.

The spiritual man knows that in christ nether circumcision or uncircumcision means anything, headties or no headties, earings or no earings; but faith which works by love.

But i know there are some who are weak in faith and the mere sight of a girl i trousers will cause them to sin. There are also those who never feel the prsence of the Spirit if their hair is uncovered. My advice to you in the name of God is REMAIN THERE O! -in deper life or Assemblies of God (or where ever) so that you do not come into condemnaton for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Stay there and be taught God's Word until you become mature enough able to handle the Word of truth in the liberty of Christ.

I will never forget my experience with one of the leaders of a deeper life church in Calabar. By mere contact with Him, i could experience the love of Christ and the joy of the Holy ghost which he so lavishly expressed. The man coming out of his car was bubbling with life, smiling and responding to every greeting with a happy God bless you, stopping to chat and leave a word of exhortaiton from time to time with those he met on his way to his office as i followed him.

He was a lecturer and I came to meet him to borrow a projector which my group in church needed for evangelism. I felt as though i was with a member of Christ Embassy.

He attended to me so warmly even though i think i was dressed in a T-shirt, combats and boots, and of course, i told him i was from Christ Embassy.

We later drove out to his church where we saw some bretheren in the premises who looked at me as though i was just comming from a pub with a bottle of gin in my hands.

I remember attempting to say hi to a sister who looked rather sad, down and out (as was the normal look for a [i]'holy' woman) as we climbed unto the front of a block of offices; oh the way she ignored me, shrinking away as though she was saying: may i never be seen in any way with with you.

Well, at the end i was told that the projector was in use and boy! , was i glad to be out of the premises.

That explained the difference between the babe and the Spiritually mature.


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@Donnie,


I totally agree with you. There should be a balance. For one thing, God looks on the heart not the appearance; on the other hand, the Bible also speaks on 'precept upon precept', 'line upon line', here a little, 'there a little'

My first experience as a newly born-again christian was horrendous to say the least. it was all about what I wore, how I looked, even how I spoke. No-one cared to know how I felt and how I was coping as a babe in Christ and sadly Deeper Life was one of the churches that treated me that way. However, the bible says that JESUS is THE Way, Truth and Life and for me that is It!!!

If you're determined to follow Jesus, then rules and regulations should not deter you. For me, I attributed their over-emphasis on appearance as ignorance of some. It was the least of my worries. I was more concerned about how to live the life of Christ that was why I stopped attending DL as a youth. That is not to say that I started perming my hair or wearing earrings, No. but I needed to be fed with the Word and I Just Wasn't Getting it there. The next church I started attending was more of a student's fellowship and I was even the odd one out with my 'SU' dressing but the brethren there were most interested in my growth as a child of God than the way I looked and I tell you fellow 'Landers, that was the turning point in my christian life.

So as to why youths run away from DLBC, well some of us did not feel accepted even when we dressed according to their doctrine. As a youth worker now, I've learnt that all youths want is to be loved and accepted the way they are, then and only then can change be imminent.

This is not casting aspersions on DLBC because they are not the only churches that are guilty of this; it's just answering the question-why youths run away from DLBC

Sound of Music - tops

The King and I

Khabi Khabi (Bollywood)

Live and Let Die

I know the question was favourite movie, not movies but it's difficult to choose just one

Just watched it two nights ago and just doesn't even begin to describe it. I don't usually go for the gory stuff but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, Sin City was worth all the gore

My attempt at reviewing this film will surely fail so I won't even bother. (Reviewing is not exactly my forte) However, I'll give it a 5 star rating. It was goooooooooood!

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mo money:
hey enugu if i'm harsh 4give me, i didn't knw it wasn't for me. hope we ar in peace? cheese sis.

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@mo money,

No sweat, no sweat at all!

[i]@enugu
I might have missed out your questions, nevertheless, you shouldnt jump into conclusion and assume that I intentionally missed it, I was following the pattern of the thread to answer questions. Nevertheless, your question would be, sorry I couldnt find it? [/i]

@Logical, precisely my point


[i]@logical,please do not answer them ,they are bunch of fools whose aim is to discredit islam,there is nothing on earth you will say that will satisfy them.We all kept quiet because we realise they have no meaningful contribution to the thread but to confuse and deceive people,and their sole mission is to discredit islam at all cost ( no matter how convince your argument might be ).silence is the best answer for fools like them.[/i]


@ayinla2005
I agree, you're too 'wise' for the rest of us. So i'll leave it at that. Quid pro quo