₦airaland Forum

Ngorbungor:
Why is it that everybody envy us? Benins just wish they are Igbos, they want to be like us!!!

Igbo Amaka

I have not seem or heard in any angle of the world where a lion will wish to become a tiny goat.

please tell me if you have heard or seen

ezenwajosh:
Where is the problem....for instance you great great grandfather told your father something about their history and someone asked you where when did he give the narrative....so you obviously didn't think its when he was alive?

Or because its not written likes zikes who happen to be a politician he must be lying?

Oga your arguments are baseless

Bkayyy:
You are the ones that have beautiful history. So through some light on Ogiamien Royal family from your rich and abundant history

don't move from the obvious topic which is about ezechime


Oga prove yourself abi u nor b man ?


shame on ibolites.

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ezenwajosh:
Igodomigodo is A KEY THATS UNLOCKS THE KEY (IGODO IS KEY IN IGBO LANGUAGE)

NOW DID YOU KNOW IGODOMIGODO HAVE FOUR MARKET DAYS AS THE IGBOS DO(EKE, ORIE,AFOR, NKWOR)

am just laughing at you

so sad igbos have nothing to prove in raw African history


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ezenwajosh:
Amai supposed to know when he did?

this is the problem with igbos am talking about

Bkayyy:
Please tell us who the Ogiamien royal family are

I will also give you the same answer I gave the guy asking me for the connection of owerri and olu which is


that the topic focus on Onitsha and I have nothing to say until you are able to give the ezechime nri source and defend it that ezechime was not from Benin.

are you not ashamed of arguing without been able to prove?


anyway am not surprise because Igbo just like your ancestors didn't make any history but were affected by it courtesy of Benin


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Yujin:
A Benin king with an Igbo name? Does it add up?
The Eben is rightly a Benin symbol of authority but we all know it can be copied and it indeed was copied.
One question for you... did Onitsha ever pay tribute to Benin?

it clearly show you don't know what is culture.

it mean for a king to copy another man culture without having connection he is not a right custodian


don't you think ?

EasternActivist:
You will continue to remain in perpetual silent until your life journey comes to an end because you have nothing meaningful to say anymore, bro Igbos are above you, they founded you and their history predates your progenitor and ancestors.

Work with it

ME: Ezechime is from Benin


IGBOS : no he is not


ME: why do you say so?


IGBOS: because he is from nri .


ME: but zik and other from Onitsha say they are from Benin


IGBOS: zik is not old enough to tell the history because we have someone older


ME : who is that and what did he say?


IGBOS: Pa Jude ikeotuonye akpakoba but we don't have what he said


ME: then give me ezechime source to prove he is not from Benin?


IGBOS : no he is not.


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I repeat

Igbos offered nothing to ancient history of Nigeria in pre_colonial era and these fellow arguing have nothing to offer to history

Igbo were affected by history and they never made any history .

Bkayyy:
Bini is actually the newest ethnic group in the southern Nigeria formed after the dissolution of Idu during the war with the Ife yorubas. So I don't understand how a new entity will still be claiming what they are not when we all know them.
They managed to concort moonlight tales and wrote some down due to the fact that they were one of the first people to meet and be subdued by the colonialists. Bini was actually capture in a day (less than 6 hours to be precise)

you Just like your ancestors have nothing to offer when talking about history my friend

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Yujin:
It's so funny how some people wish to perpetuate this Benin origin for a lot of communities in Anioma. I was watching a video of the Issele Ukwu people and how one grown up man was saying they're the first community found by a Benin Prince and he pointed towards a supposed burial site of the kings that ruled Issele Ukwu. I looked towards the burial site and behold, one of the names written there was 'Alumona'. I laughed because I could connect some dots. Nsukka peope should be familar with that name.
I discovered the fallacy of this Benin touted origin and the damage it has caused. I've now seen the problem... in the course of intra-ethnic superiority, elites of these communities sought to present themselves as being greater/more influential than the rest by claiming they have blood links with the Oba of Benin. This is why those names don't add up. One European explorer commented similar thing when he said that some of these communities claimed to be from Benin but today (as at the time he met them 19th century) they were all Igbo speaking. The Eshans who were the actual first brothers of the Bini people have Emovies and their names and language is similar to that of Benin but our 'poor' Anioma communities have no proofs to convince anyone.
Back to the topic, Bini has no links with Onitsha save for the migration that happened by Igbo people who initially resided closer to the capital of the Benin Empire fleeing deep into Igbo hinterland. The Igalas operated along the River Niger just like other Igbos did too. Saying it was just the Igalas that helped them cross the River Niger is far from the truth. That area was already a full Igbo territory with other Igbo fishermen. The Igalas came there for fishing and trading purposes too. One can't just say it was the Igalas as though the Igbos didn't know how to paddle canoes.
Conclusively, everyone should learn about the danger of falsifying history for selfish reasons. All these Anioma communities were Igbo communities hence they speak a variant of the Igbo language. Other ethnic groups settled among them just like some Igbos settled among their neighbouring communities. Let the elders learn to say the truth.

then is it a crime for the issele uku people telling you where their king came from?

2) the Eben sword used by the obi of Onitsha is not an igala product nor igbos.

then tell me how the obi came be using that sword when it's not in Igbo tradition

SLAP44:
My summary?

You're just another northerner trying to sow seeds of discord between southern tribes and peoples so as to frustrate the obvious disintegration of Nigeria.

Open another thread to spread your lies, this one has failed.

I have about four persons arguing with me but none could give prove to ezechime origin

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SLAP44:
My summary?

You're just another northerner trying to sow seeds of discord between southern tribes and peoples so as to frustrate the obvious disintegration of Nigeria.

Open another thread to spread your lies, this one has failed.

I have about four persons arguing with me but none could give prove to ezechime origin

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Bkayyy:
A reasonable person doesn't argue with a thief over his property just like the mother and King Solomon

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go learn history then come back and prove yourself in history

Bkayyy:
My brother you people shouldn't be concerned about Ndigbo that are free people but yourselves that still have an imposed Oba from Ife.
Remind me the name of the real Bini family that is still claiming the throne. The one that was arrested by the Oba

I have nothing to say until you guys start giving prove

Bkayyy:
How many times would the people of Onitsha give their own side of the story?
Mr Bini man answer me this questions to prove that you know the onitsha you are talking about.
How many clans make up onitsha?
Two clans from onitsha still insist that they are from the igala stock, can you tell me their names?

like I said I will not say anything again until you guys start giving your own prove of ezechime origin

SLAP44:
Its the final we all know, minority voices like you can sometimes come and amuse us all with historical inconsistencies which are very laughable.

ok zik is a minority now? because the last I check ibos worship him

SLAP44:
Which history links Owerri or Orlu people to Nri?

Tell us biko?

Mr man owerri is not my concern, am talking about onitsha but if you have no history to prove ezechime origin, then I have nothing to say to you

Bkayyy:
You people no dey tire?
Welcome to nairaland where yoruba and Hausa history revisionists will tell you that Igbo lands was founded by someone tracing his matrineal lineage as if Ndigbo practice matriarchy.
Please which west African ethnic group practice matriarchy?

nothing like matriarchy the king is 75% not Igbo origin but if you think otherwise then prove


all of you arguing rubbish keep on talking without giving your own side of origin

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Nbotee:
I dont have to tell U anything.. If U want to believe Nri is made up, den there's absolutely no point

it's obvious you know nothing that concern history

although am not surprise because ibos have nothing when talking about history and they were affected by history thereby not been able to affect history by worth of might and if you think ibos did please prove their worth of might

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Benin to you may seem small but the history of Nigeria cannot be told without Benin

Pass11:
What was ezechime bini name? Or do you mean that an Edo man can name his child Igbo name without any native Bini name

I clearly told you that mother was an ibo woman

the name ezechime came to fame when he became king in the land of his mother tongue.

ezechime may have had an Edo name but the kingship name supersedes others


but if you think am wrong, please provide the history that link him to nri with both mother and father

EasternActivist:
Sorry not so fast, you are entitled to your opinion but not entitled to your fact please provide the name of the father and the name of the mother osiso

I ask a question earlier that

since you think ezechime is from nri, then provide how he came to be from nri with both father and mother included

SLAP44:
Actually, the story of Nri is the only one that makes sense to any rational history student. How can we not realize the uniqueness of the Igbo cultures and traditions as distinct from all the others around it.

All Igbo spread from Nri, that's final.

the fact that you said it doesn't make it final especially when there is an opposing records evens from fellow ibolites not to talk about foreigner

Hellraiser77:
loool!!! See tales by moonlight

It must suck being such a tiny tribe like bini

if you have your cooked up history from nri, then tell me where ezechime came from

Nbotee:
So U mean to say all the archeological discoveries were also made up right? Are some of U too lazy to even research?

please research yourself and tell me where it was located and the kings that ruled it and when

Hellraiser77:
What is the Edo meaning of Eze chima the man that led Onitsha to their current locale?

it is so obvious that the name is not an edo name but the fact is that ezechime was a product of Benin begotten by an ibo mother during oba esigie reign.


ezechime fled Benin after a conflict between his mother portion and Oba esigie thereby taking along most things that relate to Benin

ezenwajosh:
Pa Jude ikeotuonye akpakoba

when did he give his narrative?

ezenwajosh:
That's not true

please tell me the right answer since you understand edo language very well
avanukhun iso o khian gbua u ma na setin rie wanmwen yo mwen re.

ezenwajosh:
zik is older than I am but no sure about his wisdoms but the story zik is telling according to the poster is difference from someone's else's older than zik

please tell me the person older than zik

Eastlink:
Trash! Go tell the Benin expansionist that we now understand their landgrabbing tactics. A people of 5 LGA cannot found an ethnic group of over 40m. Benin should look for their brothers in Urhobo, Isoko, Eshan! Any foolish movement towards east of the Orhionwon river would be met with brutal resistance. Maybe it’s time we begin to cure some madness.

Rather it was the Ibos who founded Idu before the coming of the Oba who brought war. Ibos were the founders of Idu and the Ogido dynasty starting from Igodo had Ibo origin.

please prove that the ibos founded Igodomigodo

ezenwajosh:
I know my history and someone put it out there for people asking questions to read


For the fact that google told you 1+1=2 and someone put it out there in google does it make a wrong answer

History books was written by someone

Histories on google was written by someone

How do you know history of things that happened when you were not born....for the sake of arguing blindly....you read the book SOMEONE POSTED ON GOOGLE OR HISTORY BOOKS

I really appreciate the fact that you realize that someone post it there

that is that same way the Op of this thread post his

that was how Zik his own

or you are now wiser or older than Azikiwe ?

to have known the history of onitcha better ?

ezenwajosh:
What is igodomigodo in english please

king begot kings

SLAP44:
Another fictitious story fit only for the trash bin.

All Igbo spread from Nri

the story of Nri is a cooked one to suit the likes of Igodomigodo and other African Empire of old.
Igbo were the laziest in ancient history who didn't affect history but history affected them.

ezenwajosh:
Just google the oldest tribe in Nigeria

And google agha idu na oba

google only give you what you post.