Christianity Etc › Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 5:44pm On Jul 20, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker: Ok let me address another one Unknown language is a language like hearing an Ogoja man speaking his language. But gibberish s wobbled speech that may be a language or a speech created by the talker. What if someone speaks gibberish and tells you it's ogoja language how will you know if what his saying is true? That which is Good or Bad is one which is Dictated and set by the Owner/Ruler of the Land/House in which the people who are in it have to obey.
I like to always reply this with "when you tell your children and nephew and nieces to be in your house by 9pm", does that Law apply to you? Are you under that law? If that's the case, does it mean that the owner of the house can for example, murder or rape anybody that's in their house because they make the rule? Are you saying that morality is just a temporary rule made by those in power? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 11:00am On Jul 20, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 10:46am On Jul 20, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker: Thank God a multitude, multitude saw Him before was Murdered, and so it is in perfect order that a few saw Him. And of course it is supposed to be a few since He has already completed His mission of visiting the world. I no get power for all this long long argument you are trying to use to attack her just because she has threaten your beliefs Many saw him before he was killed but afterwards very few. OP said that many witnessed the resurrection. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 10:44am On Jul 20, 2025 |
PulsingPurple: No one's really asking for a debate or willing to counter your views. Even if you claim you wanted to counter these YouTuber's point, your opening speech and tone suggests otherwise. I'd rather not indulge. Really? I made the assumption due to your choice of words such as "An invitation to critical reasoning". You should ignore the reply then. PulsingPurple: In all my days of argument and till now, I keep marveling at the possibility of atheism. Like fr fr, you just don't see any reason to believe in the existence of a God? Mehnn!
I found some YouTube videos and copied their transcripts. They're long, but it's something I think Christians and atheists might want to read when they have a lot of free time. Might spark some thoughts. My reply are thoughts that was "sparked" while reading your post. Have a nice day. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 8:19am On Jul 20, 2025 |
Why does this post seem like AI generated slop? Is it just now that you're encountering the redeemed zoomer? I hope you know that that dude believes that the earth is billions of years old instead of the ten thousand years creationists believe  Anyways.......... PulsingPurple: [color=#006400]Evidentialism:[/color] Tries to argue for God by giving evidence of supernatural events. For example, many Christians believe the [color=#2E8B57]resurrection of Christ[/color] can be historically proven because: – There were many eyewitnesses Who were these eyewitnesses? Didn't the Bible claim that very few people saw Jesus after his resurrection? Why did Thomas doubt? Also, bigfoot, Santa Claus, unicorns, flying spaghetti monster and every other gods also have many witnesses too. So it's nothing new. 🤭 – They died for their faith – And generally, people [color=#8B0000]don’t die for something they know is false[/color] Terrorists die for their faith, Nazis died for their ideology, ancient Roman soldiers died for their empires etc the concept of dying for an ideology is not uncommon. Fanatics are known to die for their ideologies. Sometimes, people also cite: – [color=#00008B]Demonic possessions[/color], where people speak unknown languages What's the difference between a demonic possessed person and a mentally ill person? What's the difference between unknown languages and gibberish? – [color=#2F4F4F]Near-death experiences[/color], where people see things they shouldn't be able to Like…? [color=#006400]The Moral Argument:[/color] Objective morality is only real if God is real. But [color=#00008B]objective morality is real[/color] →Therefore, God is real. [color=#2F4F4F]Example:[/color] Is cannibalism good or bad? A: “I think it’s good.” B: “I think it’s bad.” So... which one is [color=#8B0000]actually[/color] correct? B can only be right if there’s a [color=#00008B]supreme authority[/color] that says cannibalism is bad. That authority is what we would call God. Define morality. What are the criterias makes something good or bad? Another question is that are gods above morality laws or are they subject to it? If they are above morality, it means that they can for example command their followers to kill babies or sacrifice their children to them, and it will be considered ‘good’ because they are the one who made moral laws. But if they are also subject to moral laws it means that morality is above them. So there's something greater that even gods must submit to. [color=#006400]The Cosmological Argument:[/color] Everything that happens has a cause. That cause has a cause. And so on. But [color=#8B0000]this chain can’t go on forever[/color]. Eventually, there must be: – A first cause – An unmoved mover – An uncaused causer – An unchanged changer This being must be: – [color=#2E8B57]Eternal[/color] (can’t start or stop existing) – [color=#00008B]Outside the universe[/color] (everything inside is caused) – All-powerful (can move anything but cannot be moved) This, we call God. The statement “Everything that happens has a cause” contradicts the first cause argument because the ‘first cause’ is also part of “everything”. The statement only makes sense if you say “everything except the first first cause”. But then this raises questions: How did you know that there's a first cause? What makes you claim that everything can't go forever (no beginning and no end)? Why can't the universe(or multiverse) itself be its own first cause? [color=#006400]Act and Potency Argument:[/color] Everything is a mix of: – Act: What it is – Potency: What it could become Example: – A baby is alive → It could become an adult – An apple is red → It could be eaten – You have the potency to be strong, but maybe not yet When something changes, a potency is being actualized. But this can’t go back forever. So, we need an unactualized actualizer—a being who is [color=#00008B]pure act[/color]. This being has no potential, only actuality. That means: – [color=#2E8B57]Eternal[/color] (no potential to not exist) – All-powerful (nothing else can affect Him) – Unchanging This is the most complex argument. Originally from Aristotle, developed by Thomas Aquinas in Summa Contra Gentiles. This is just another variation of the first cause argument [color=#006400]Pascal’s Wager:[/color] A thought experiment, not a proof. – If you're an atheist and [color=#8B0000]atheism is true[/color]: You gain/lose nothing – If you're an atheist and God is real: You could [color=#8B0000]lose everything[/color] – If you believe in God and [color=#8B0000]atheism is true[/color]: Still neutral – If you believe in God and God is real: You could gain everything So, [color=#00008B]it's a safer bet to believe in God[/color].
[/b] This argument doesn't make sense because there are many gods to choose from. The action that will please one god might displease another god Also, this could be interpreted as: you believe in the gods because there's a gun pointed at your head. [color=#006400]Teleological Argument (Design):[/color]Nature seems to have [b]purpose, like a machine → implies a [color=#00008B]designer[/color] Examples: – [color=#2E8B57]Human cells[/color] – [color=#2E8B57]The ecosystem[/color] What is this purpose that nature seems to have? What is the purpose of the designer's existence? Darwinian evolution explains some complexity, but not all. Like: – The four physical constants: Gravitational constant Electron charge Strong nuclear force Weak nuclear force If any of these were even [color=#8B0000]slightly different[/color], the universe would collapse. [Like if gravity was slightly stronger or weaker, or the force holding atomic particle together was even 2% stronger or weaker. Among the billions of galaxies allegedly out there, the chances of everything happening just right is 1 in 10 duotrigintillion, that's to say you have a better chance at winning the lottery 10 billion billion billion billion times IN A ROW.] This is a typical god of gaps argument. If we can't explain something, therefore god. We currently do not know what happens inside a black hole so therefore gods live inside black holes. The god of gaps argument is an argument from ignorance, that uses gods to fill in currently unknown phenomena there by preventing further research and inquiry. If we do not know or understand something, we should do more research to learn more about it rather than just throwing our hands up and saying “the gods did it”. [color=#006400]Ontological Argument:[/color] God = That than which nothing greater can be conceived Therefore, God must be: – All-powerful – All-knowing – All-good – Existing (because existing is better than not). Question: "But you can’t just think something into existence. If a pizza has all these qualities, do we then call it God?" Actually, you can’t do that with pizza, because: – Pizza has [color=#8B0000]limitations[/color] (size, perishability) – A pizza that’s indestructible and infinite wouldn’t be pizza anymore – It would be [color=#00008B]God[/color] The concept of “greatest” exists in our minds. The concept of infinity invalidates the concept of greatest. The greatest means a maximum, and infinity means endless. If there's no start or end, no highest or lowest, no smallest or biggest, no maximum and minimum, then there's no greatest or least great (whatever it's called). [color=#006400]Argument from Personal Experience:[/color] Not convincing to others, but very convincing to oneself. – Supernatural events – Answered prayers – Unlikely coincidences another god of gaps argument. You experience something that you can't explain, therefore gods. [color=#006400]Transcendental Argument:[/color] Without God, nothing makes sense. We assume: – Logic – Consistency in nature – Truth But we [color=#8B0000]can’t scientifically prove[/color] any of those assumptions. They only make sense if grounded in the mind of God. Without God → [color=#8B0000]no foundation for knowledge[/color] This argument is basically saying that without gods nothing makes sense. But here's a quote I read online: “the universe is not under any obligation to make sense to human beings”. [color=#006400]Argument from Consciousness:[/color] Consciousness cannot be explained by material means. – Machines can be reduced to parts – Brains can be studied – But experience (like “seeing yellow”) can’t be dissected You can’t know: – If we all see the same colors – If you’re the only conscious being Consciousness seems to require something immaterial → a [color=#00008B]soul[/color] Another god of gaps argument. We currently do not understand how consciousness works, therefore gods. According to you guys, all scientific research regarding consciousness should stop, because you believe the gods did it. [color=#006400]Argument from Mathematics:[/color] Math points to an infinite, immaterial reality. – Simple math = real-world – Advanced math = abstract, yet it still works Important numbers: – 1, 0, i, e, π – All come together in [color=#00008B]Euler’s Identity[/color] → an elegant, beautiful equation Leonhard Euler, who discovered it, saw this as proof that God designed math. He was also a [color=#2F4F4F]devout Calvinist[/color]. Also: The Mandelbrot Set – Generated by a simple formula – Infinitely complex – Not found anywhere in the universe → Therefore, its creator must be [color=#00008B]infinite and beyond our universe[/color] This is just the delusions of a theist who did not understand a mathematics problem and then decided to fill in gods in things that he did not understand. [color=#8B0000]And finally… the best argument of all:[/color] Trust me, bro. This isn't the best argument, it's the entire argument for theism. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Another Invitation To Critical Reasoning by Everyday247: 6:16am On Jul 20, 2025 |
budaatum: I not only read your op, I went and read other threads you have begun here and found nothing to engage me, but this thread had you mention critical reasoning, and is the only thing of interest to me in it and hence my addition to your thread.
Now, as an atheist, I not only see no reason to believe in the existence of gods, I have sufficient knowledge to know its like believing you have a million pounds in your bank account at this very moment. But I am not that concerned, since you are not telling me to believe what you believe. Na wa oh! I thought you were Buddhist  |
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