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PulsingPurple:
[color=#006400]Evidentialism:[/color]
Tries to argue for God by giving evidence of supernatural events.
For example, many Christians believe the [color=#2E8B57]resurrection of Christ[/color] can be historically proven because:
– There were many eyewitnesses

– They died for their faith
– And generally, people [color=#8B0000]don’t die for something they know is false[/color]

Sometimes, people also cite:
– [color=#00008B]Demonic possessions[/color], where people speak unknown languages

– [color=#2F4F4F]Near-death experiences[/color], where people see things they shouldn't be able to

[color=#006400]The Moral Argument:[/color]
Objective morality is only real if God is real. But [color=#00008B]objective morality is real[/color] →Therefore, God is real.
[color=#2F4F4F]Example:[/color]
Is cannibalism good or bad?
A: “I think it’s good.”
B: “I think it’s bad.”
So... which one is [color=#8B0000]actually[/color] correct?
B can only be right if there’s a [color=#00008B]supreme authority[/color] that says cannibalism is bad.
That authority is what we would call God.

[color=#006400]The Cosmological Argument:[/color]
Everything that happens has a cause.
That cause has a cause. And so on.
But [color=#8B0000]this chain can’t go on forever[/color].
Eventually, there must be:
– A first cause
– An unmoved mover
– An uncaused causer
– An unchanged changer
This being must be:
– [color=#2E8B57]Eternal[/color] (can’t start or stop existing)
– [color=#00008B]Outside the universe[/color] (everything inside is caused)
– All-powerful (can move anything but cannot be moved)
This, we call God.

[color=#006400]Act and Potency Argument:[/color]
Everything is a mix of:
– Act: What it is
– Potency: What it could become
Example:
– A baby is alive → It could become an adult
– An apple is red → It could be eaten
– You have the potency to be strong, but maybe not yet
When something changes, a potency is being actualized.
But this can’t go back forever.
So, we need an unactualized actualizer—a being who is [color=#00008B]pure act[/color].
This being has no potential, only actuality.
That means:
– [color=#2E8B57]Eternal[/color] (no potential to not exist)
– All-powerful (nothing else can affect Him)
– Unchanging
This is the most complex argument.
Originally from Aristotle, developed by Thomas Aquinas in Summa Contra Gentiles.

[color=#006400]Pascal’s Wager:[/color]
A thought experiment, not a proof.
– If you're an atheist and [color=#8B0000]atheism is true[/color]: You gain/lose nothing
– If you're an atheist and God is real: You could [color=#8B0000]lose everything[/color]
– If you believe in God and [color=#8B0000]atheism is true[/color]: Still neutral
– If you believe in God and God is real: You could gain everything
So, [color=#00008B]it's a safer bet to believe in God[/color].

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[color=#006400]Teleological Argument (Design):[/color]Nature seems to have [b]purpose, like a machine → implies a [color=#00008B]designer[/color]
Examples:
– [color=#2E8B57]Human cells[/color]
– [color=#2E8B57]The ecosystem[/color]

Darwinian evolution explains some complexity, but not all.
Like:
– The four physical constants:
Gravitational constant
Electron charge
Strong nuclear force
Weak nuclear force
If any of these were even [color=#8B0000]slightly different[/color], the universe would collapse.
[Like if gravity was slightly stronger or weaker, or the force holding atomic particle together was even 2% stronger or weaker. Among the billions of galaxies allegedly out there, the chances of everything happening just right is 1 in 10 duotrigintillion, that's to say you have a better chance at winning the lottery 10 billion billion billion billion times IN A ROW.]

[color=#006400]Ontological Argument:[/color]
God = That than which nothing greater can be conceived
Therefore, God must be:
– All-powerful
– All-knowing
– All-good
– Existing (because existing is better than not).
Question: "But you can’t just think something into existence. If a pizza has all these qualities, do we then call it God?"
Actually, you can’t do that with pizza, because:
– Pizza has [color=#8B0000]limitations[/color] (size, perishability)
– A pizza that’s indestructible and infinite wouldn’t be pizza anymore
– It would be [color=#00008B]God[/color]

[color=#006400]Argument from Personal Experience:[/color]
Not convincing to others, but very convincing to oneself.
– Supernatural events
– Answered prayers
– Unlikely coincidences

[color=#006400]Transcendental Argument:[/color]
Without God, nothing makes sense.
We assume:
– Logic
– Consistency in nature
– Truth
But we [color=#8B0000]can’t scientifically prove[/color] any of those assumptions.
They only make sense if grounded in the mind of God.
Without God → [color=#8B0000]no foundation for knowledge[/color]

[color=#006400]Argument from Consciousness:[/color]
Consciousness cannot be explained by material means.
– Machines can be reduced to parts
– Brains can be studied
– But experience (like “seeing yellow”) can’t be dissected
You can’t know:
– If we all see the same colors
– If you’re the only conscious being
Consciousness seems to require something immaterial → a [color=#00008B]soul[/color]

[color=#006400]Argument from Mathematics:[/color]
Math points to an infinite, immaterial reality.
– Simple math = real-world
– Advanced math = abstract, yet it still works
Important numbers:
– 1, 0, i, e, π
– All come together in [color=#00008B]Euler’s Identity[/color] → an elegant, beautiful equation
Leonhard Euler, who discovered it, saw this as proof that God designed math.
He was also a [color=#2F4F4F]devout Calvinist[/color].
Also: The Mandelbrot Set
– Generated by a simple formula
– Infinitely complex
– Not found anywhere in the universe
→ Therefore, its creator must be [color=#00008B]infinite and beyond our universe[/color]

[color=#8B0000]And finally… the best argument of all:[/color]
Trust me, bro.

budaatum:
I not only read your op, I went and read other threads you have begun here and found nothing to engage me, but this thread had you mention critical reasoning, and is the only thing of interest to me in it and hence my addition to your thread.

Now, as an atheist, I not only see no reason to believe in the existence of gods, I have sufficient knowledge to know its like believing you have a million pounds in your bank account at this very moment. But I am not that concerned, since you are not telling me to believe what you believe.

deltateam:
This EPL season will be lit. I am done testing my strategy.

My 20 odds is going well for now, 5 games cleared, 6 more to go.
Next week, more leagues will step in.

By September, 1000 odds weekly for 20 - 24 times.

Just 1 hit is okay but I'll aim for 5 hits.

JAOS:
I've not seen mine 🤧

RollinTNDA:
i have sent a compliant letter to national lottery council This is robbery. Bt⁹ja bonus is biggest scam

Reloadedisraelp:
The ban on my Monika is too much haba...

Puntingnoob:
that's how my bet9ja bonus is. I rollover the amount I was given 3 times then I redeem the amount i was given ×10.

Puntingnoob:

ispreloaded:
lol
...it could be a mistake

ispreloaded:

Samueltemi337:
Delt your last win in this thread was in November last year
That is exactly 7 months ago
So where is the lie in my post
It was 150odds which you claimed you staked 2k on
So your winnings is suppose to be 300k plus
Since then you have dropped a total of 103 tickets and you claimed you stake 2k per ticket which were all lost bets
So now do the maths
2000 X 103 = 206000
300000 - 206000 = 94000
So from your winnings you have 94k left that you will obviously give back to the bookies and even add more
So how exactly are you winning the bookies?

Everyday247:
Anybody have any comments on Fredrikstad vs Molde match today?

I played Molde asian handicap +1.5. 😔

ispreloaded:
👍🤣✔️

guobe:
All boys match against quilmes Atletico has draw written over it and it's worth a million naira stake.
Dropping it in all my platforms.
Star draw in Argentina primera national.

Reloadedisraelp:
Samuel 🙄

Reloadedisraelp:
Spot and then hit

BUGOFF:
Lol. Nor be Friday we dey?

BUGOFF:
Happy weekend 🌼


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heracles1:
na everybody u go call abba? i no even sabi the guy im new to nairaland and i came across the gambling thread and it remind me of the pepper i collect from alabi

heracles1:
una still dey bet chaiii

Jedtam:
You are a case, I swear.
Seems you have got something with 1xbet.

Anyway, anything like this for Sportybet apart from football

Sam2310:
cheif ambassador say they are stabilising....
Make i no talk again

triplechoice:
I haven't presented my own version of intelligent design, but described what's observed in nature using words in English.

Are your bodily systems operating intelligently as if created by humans?

Answer yes or no and you know why I have used the phrase

I cannot be arguing for and against evolution which I subscribe to.

There are non creationist scientist who have also like me mentioned the intelligence in natural occuring phenomenon. It doesn't mean they're arguing for what you think.

Sam2310:
for what reason?