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triplechoice:
I haven't presented my own version of intelligent design, but described what's observed in nature using words in English.

Are your bodily systems operating intelligently as if created by humans?

Answer yes or no and you know why I have used the phrase

I cannot be arguing for and against evolution which I subscribe to.

There are non creationist scientist who have also like me mentioned the intelligence in natural occuring phenomenon. It doesn't mean they're arguing for what you think.

Sam2310:
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triplechoice:
I can't continue to repeat myself. I already gave examples of what you're asking. Your bodily systems operate intelligently. If you think they don't , forget it.

I'm not arguing for creationism,but highlighting evolutionary marvels that appears purposefully engineered in nature. But creationist are saying they are created by God in a matter of days. I haven't said, so why for God sake you won't allow me to use everyday language , intelligent and design, to describe what's obvious in nature.


I asked you to limit your search to what operate intelligently in nature if you can't do that then get help from chatbot.

This is the last time I will reply you on this matter.

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FreeIgboho:
What don't you understand? He's asking you to justify Yaweh

MaxInDHouse:
Just imagine!

Making God's word a laughing stock due to your presumptuousness.

How can God predestine people and at the end punish them for playing their roles according to the script given them?

FreeIgboho:
You really think there is a chance God would leave such a monumental and momentous part of his plan to the whims of the fickle mind of a man?

FreeIgboho:
Not that. Here's what is being refered to:

triplechoice:
Oga, I'm not arguing for an intelligent designer like creationist, and that's why you have been searching for what doesn't concern me.

If it's difficult for you to get what I specify: examples of naturally occurring phenomenon that operate intelligently or have intelligent design not designer, use Chatbot to help you get them.

The meaning of a word is determined by the context it's used. If creationist are using the phrase, intelligent design ,to argue for an intelligent designer for all things and you disagree, please face them not me.

Thank you

FreeIgboho:
Simple: we know Judas probably tossed and turned all night b4 finally deciding to betray Jesus.
Free will is: could he have chosen not to betray Jesus?

FreeIgboho:
I know the answer but I want

FreeIgboho:
So what is your own take? Do we have free will?
Let's also hear the take of our other discussants:

triplechoice:
You are struggling to understand me. Google for examples of intelligent design in nature and show your results here please.

You have searched for intelligent design argument, what it's, instead of intelligent design

triplechoice:
NO. Provide the source of where you got it from that everything that's labeled intelligent design must have an intelligent designer separate from it
It's not a working but a descriptive term which refers to something which I have explained. So I haven't redefined it. You probably think so because of the people you have listening to.
I didn't say they didn't come about through natural process. I said they operate intelligently
You didn't complete it. "requires an intelligent designer (GOD) outside of it" That's what the people you have been listening to have educated you with.

But I said it's possible the intelligent designer is something that's an inseparable part of the natural process which resulted in those systems seen in nature.
Bodily systems which I described are exactly that. I didn't mention anything manmade.
Are you even aware that some of the systems which operates in manmade objects were copied from naturally occurring phenomenon?

If the copies are intelligent design to you, why not the original?
wrong. The natural processes which I earlier described operate intelligently, and I have explained how. If you're blind to the intelligence in those systems, sorry I can no longer continue the discussion with you.

Thank you

triplechoice:
Who tells you that everything described as intelligent design is designed by a separate or external intelligent designer?

Design sometimes refers to the inherent nature of something, and If , for instance, that something can operate independently on its own, we say it has intelligence., like your bodily systems which operate independently and intelligently on their own.

For instance, if your body requires food, it starts to flash images of it on the screen of your mind so you're forced to go looking for it. If it's sex, oh! you will struggle to resist its command as it will continually flash the images of that big breasted girl in your neighborhood you fancy across the screen of mind to excite you sexually so you're forced to go looking for a her or any one who could give it to you or na soapie go end ham o, if not no peace for you o

If it's ill, you know what it does now, it sends you signal so you act before it becomes too late.

For a start, read your biology textbooks, but mind you, science says it doesn't know everything yet. So who am I to tell you how intelligent design in nature came about?

triplechoice:
You have misinterpreted me.
Intelligent design is not the same as intelligent designer. Re-read me again. Thank you

triplechoice:
All of the atheist who think intelligent design is for idiots have been miseducate about it by religious people who often use it as proof for their gods. Those are the people they have been listening to, and so don't know it themselves.

Once you mention intelligent design, the immediate and unthinking response is , "who created the designer? LOL

Everyday247:
The concept of intelligent design contradicts itself.
It's States that the world is too complex to exist naturally, and then invokes intelligent designers who themselves are also too complex to exist naturally.

triplechoice:
If you know it very well, what's stopping you from explaining it yourself. I think you also have the problem you have accused him of having, but want to lie to yourself that you know it better.

triplechoice:
What do you even know about intelligent design other the misconstrue version used by religious people to miseducate people like you who don't bother to investigate things themselves?

Unlike others ,I don't accept there's a separate designer existing somewhere in an invisible plane.

For me, the designer is in the designed object. It's inseparable from it. Science calls it the force of nature, certain religion have personified it as God. They are both saying the same thing but expressing it differently.

plaetton:
Lol.
Imagine the false twist to the Wright Brothers story.
In fact the story of the Wright Brothers vindicates my position.
The Wright Brothers did not attach feathers to their backs to defying conventional understanding of physics.
Rather, they scientifically ( yes, scientifically) demonstrated in the most practical way how the laws of aerodynamics acts upon objects in the air.

triplechoice:
You didn't get it. They used science to dispute science, but from the way you sounded , it's certain if you lived during their time you would have also joined other scientist to mock their first attempt to fly as foolish and impossible since their invention was going to run contrary to established scientific fact as at that period.

You looking for excuse and just want to argue that only trained scientist can debate and question scientific theories while the others wait to be spoon-fed.

I'm sure you think you know more than top scientist from different parts of the world who have consistently adviced people consulting with medical personnel to always ask question about the kind of treatment they are getting so they know better. Have they said if one isn't a scientist one can't question a medical doctor who's trained scientist?

Answer me, Mr "you can only question science with science."

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triplechoice:
The bolded is incorrect. It's similar to the usual excuse used by incompetent teachers to dissuade their students from questioning them about a topic they can't explain very well. Religious people also use the same tactics when they say one must have the holy spirit to understand biblical text
There's no where it's stated in the sciences that " You question science with science. You just invented that yourself.
What it takes to question science is an inquiry mind and the ability to ask the right question concerning any scientific theory that one find inconsistent with the evidences that support it.
The Wright brothers were ordinary bicycle repairers who aren't supposed to question science according you, but through their project to invent something new, they question the prevailing scientific theory of their time which stated that nothing heavier than air can float in the sky ,and the result was the airplane.
Well, you already answered the op without realising it. You can't explain it and so waiting for other scientist who know better to come up with an answer so you can re-echo it.

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DeepSight:
I don't think it's an unfounded claim to say that something cannot come from nothing. Your querying that in particular is what makes me think any discussion will be futile. As I said, unless you provide a strong reason for that query.