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logica:
i clearly said there were MINOR releases for 1.0 and you said there was only one. A lot of important fixes were made to arrive at 1.0.0.3 RC1 and a lot of people who downloaded the first release - 1.0 had messed up a lot of phones. I had simply mentioned that 1.0.0.3 doesn't have all those problems. simple.

and winpwn is going 2.0 as well. just check out the website.

lets not make mountains out of molehills, dear logica. what purpose will be served by going on about version numbers? my last word is that no matter the upgrades, winpwn IS STILL A RELEASE CANDIDATE SOFTWARE, AND I ONLY APPLY FINISHED, COMPLETE, STABLE, FULLY TESTED AND GOLD RELEASED SOFTWARE TO UNLOCK MY IPHONES.

THIS HAS BEEN MY POINT ALL ALONG. PWNAGE IS NOT RC1, ITS A COMPLETE RELEASE.

forgive the upercase, im not shouting, just letting you appreciate the import of my stance.

in any case, thanks for pointing out the winpwn update.

@gamine

people who like crusty jokes on male Instruments will adore the noinsense that love guru is.

i dont like CARS much. the characters are fine (especially Mater) biut the idea of talking cars as people didnt work for me.

talking toys, bugs, fish, and robots work.

logica:
Ex Inferis:

You are wrong. There have been 2 minor releases for winpwn version 1.0. The versions are:

1.0 RC1
1.0.0.2 RC1
1.0.0.3 RC1

The minor versions of course were for bug fixes.

The last is of course the latest and that's the one I use.

you misunderstood me, logica, what i mean is the only upgrade from 0.99 to 1.0.x is still a Release Candidate irrespective of minor upgrade levels. 0.99 was alpha, RC1 qualifies as beta. so far no release is even gamma to qualify as RC2 yet talk more of a stable 1.0 release.

whereas pnwage is going 2.0, winpwn is still locked in a testing stage. we can blame cmw's decision to use qemu for that (even though we must give him credit for the daunting task.)

or maybe windows is the culprit. linux should have no problem as it shares the same root as os x.

in any case, im not comfortable enough yet with winpwn to give to my anorak buddies.

here's a toss up: the worst movie this year

1. meet dave

2. love guru

3. the happening

let the nominations began

eddie murphy obviously doesnt realize he just isnt funny anmore, and i thought the fallout from Norbit would make him pause.

same thing is beginning to happen to mike myers, resuscitating the same jokes from Austin powers franchise (bullocks, nuts, weiners and getting struck by stuff in the head or nether regions. not to mention its a bit insulting to hindus).


as for me, i love wall-e, it reinstated pixar back in my books and though it wont rank alongside the incredibles, its a heckuva movie enough to make me emote. wall-e's eyes (binoculars, really) are the best part of him and i love his voice.

the visuals, oh the visuals! ive forgiven lasseter and the whole pixar team for the dreadful CARS.

thieves are a kobo a dozen in nairaland, it seems.

n97 *chuckle*

im sure the above is a true life drama for a lot of you, hardly a day goes by when you dont want to throw your phone out the window.

here is a confession: i use my iphone for videos and music as an ipod.

my sim resides in a nokia 3410.

why?

because i the 3410 can take punishment.

i cant toss the iphone in frustration.

glue keeps the 3410 in place.



and to make it worse, when the NCC asks MTN to compensate us, their turn it into an Ad campaign and make it seem they were being generous.

i expected to get an apology alongside that meagre 175 naira, somethinhg like: "guy, sorry we have being assh0es these past six years and we know we have caused you no end of frustration and many phones tossed out the window. however here is 175 to calm you down while we sort ourselves out. cos we are assh0les".

now, if only they can get NEPA to compensate as well.

texazzpete:
if the App store gets cracked, that may be bad news for all. For now developers see it as an awesome opportunity to make money, but piracy may chage all that.

you can bet tomorrows sunshine the App store will fall to piracy. since when have DRM'd music being strip bare of their copy protection? since before DVD Jon. sometimes its a good thing, some of these apps are overpriced (not as expensive as ngage games though, honest) and the free stuff are mostly dog turd.

mark my words, soon we shall start heading off to demonoid or mininova to fill 'er up.

texazzpete:
Can't wait to see what id software comes up with. Even EA and THQ are showing off iPhone apps at E3.

or ubisoft



UPDATE: im going to brave cydia.

goodbye BSD Subsystem (simport, appflow and other gear are off too since they need BSD utilities which cydia replaces. but from my unix experience i feel cydia gives a better implementation of shell tools, just like the coders assert.)

i have succeeded in bricking 2 iphones already-all mine, thankfully, and im willing to sacrifice this 8gigs (my sister's, but she wont mind too much. she loves LG prada and is wrapped u now having fun) and see what cydia has to offer.

its the same phone im giving over to 2.0

the 16gigs will be 1.1.4 for now until zibri or the devteam liberate it.

wish me luck !!

@arsenal4eva (really? not manU4eva then. go manU, yay!)


no, you just need to have a US billing address and number to register for an account in the US store.

@tezz

bible app is freebie. DRM is one of the easiest things to strip off, so keep your fingers crossed and wait a couple more weeks. we can thank nokia's yeye "symbian signed" for influencing apple to drm their apps.

by the way, ipod games bought on an itunes account are easily synced to other ipods, besides your purchases are linked to your account, not the particular ituines you used to buy stuff. at least thats what i think.

cry not, fair elven child. though harsh be mine words, let not their tempest break thy bones.

pax, i say, pax vobiscum.

we be friends now, and i recognize you as an elf.

ok, have just got about everything they have out there even though itunes store kept going off. must be traffic! and me on broadband.

current pwnage isnt unlocking 2.0, haveta wait wait wait.

its killing me.

@samir101ng

although your questiion was directed at bigbrovar, let me attempt to assist.

jailbreaking is an unauthorized opening up of the iphone/ipod touch filesystem in order to allow the installation of community (i.e non-apple) native (i.e non web-based) applications and modifications. the filesystem by default is locked down, thus "jailbreaking" means setting it free. its this process that allows the installation of Installer and applications. jailbreaking usually utilizes a known bug in the firmware: the TIFF buffer overflow.( there are other loopholes as well)

however subsequent firmware updates re-lock the filesystem, and it became a cat-and-mouse game between Apple and hackers.

as of recent, the new 2.0 firmware cannot be jailbroken-YET. but its a question of time, as already there are claims by some that it has been both unlocked and jailbroken.


iphone is available in a number of good phone dealers in Naija, and most of them are unlocked and jailbroken already. just look around.

as for fun programs, it depends on your taste: Installer and Cydia (a rival app) are full of community created applications that stemmed from reverse engineering genuine iphone apps. there are IM clients, a few underpowered games, dictionaries, Quran, Bible, blogging apps, themes, customizing apps, utilities etc. some are good, others are dreadful. but almost all are free and quite easy to install (via WiFi or gprs).

however the new 2.0 firmware introduces the APP Store where you can download OFFICIAL, Apple-vetted apps and games. because they are official, they are stable and quite good but not all are free. currently only about 25% of the appstore goodies are free and you need an Itunes store account to get them. for the itunes acount setup you need a valid major credit card or a paypal account.

its true that most iphones are locked to one official carrier in the country supported (in the US its AT&T), meaning you can't use any other sim but the one in the phone package and the data plans. if you want pay-as-you-go and other carriers you will have to have your phone unlocked to use any sim.

if you don't need the phone aspect but want the overall iphone coolness, get an Ipod touch. however, whereas firmware updates are free on the iphone, they cost over $10 on the ipod.

nigeria may have 3G, or some semblance of it, but our networks do not have  comprehensive data plans to cover the iphone usage, and they didnt actively seek for endorsement from Apple. you know, nigeria's reputation doesnt really sit well with foreign bodies.

nonetheless, that is not to say your unlocked 3G iphone wont work on Naija's 3G networks.


UPDATE: 2.0 is indeed jailbroken and unlocked. however there is as yet no software unlock for the 3G iphone, just jailbreak. meanwhile firmware 2.0.1 is out while 2.1 is being prepared for release soon.

ok, got itunes 7.7 last night, just installed and im browsing the App store now. not bad, but i still think installer has nothing much to fear-for now.

im holding off updating yet because i don't have an itunes store account- will remedy that by monday-and i don't want to lose installer. you need an itunes account to get even the free stuff, and so far im not blown away by what i see here.

still hanging on to 1.1.4 until monday.

UPDATE: couldnt wait until monday, so went ahead and got my itunes store account already. downloading the free apps now.

still holding off upgrading the iphone, i hear some are getting bricked already with no way to revert since ziphone wont downgrade BL



UPDATE: my apps collection so far. still downloading. will zip them up and upload them on megaupload or skydrive .

@gamine

heretic!
you are smeared with tact and wit so dismal it lends a damned light to your dread and ominous purpose.

black is your heart but you shall not unsettle me with your taunts, for i stood mightier swords than the mere words of a fickle goblin child. i am the unsilent cathedral and you are the gaunt raven sent by the tempter, and doomed is your enterprise.

@logica

theres only one 1.0, and its 1.0RC, meaning Release Candidate, meaning its not evn stable enough yet to be gold.
dont wory, pwnage works fine on my mac, just want a windows version for some buddies.

im done downloading 2.0 its 225.1 mb

@chikeze

tezz has given a link already

amen, brovar

downloading 2.0 update right now. heres the link.

http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPhone/061-4955.20080710.bgt53/iPhone1,2_2.0_5A347_Restore.ipsw

@logica
no, i tried with version 1 which is more stable than the alpha but still not quite stable enough. the trouble is when building custom .ipsw, it crashes midway. thought it was vista so i tried on xp. still the same.

pwnage works well for me though. and the beta that was cracked in march will have been patched by now.

need itunes account to download apps from appstore

@bigrovar

me cousin! yes bro, im part of the movement now. happy feet!!

ive tried vixta, linspire, freespire, pclinuxOS2007 and 2008, kubuntu hardy, gentoo, xandros, and tons of distros

but i kept coming back to ubuntu

tried iceWm, enlightenment, kde, but i kept coming back to gnome.

and im here to stay, just baptized another heathen just an hour ago! he saw my desktop, fell on his knees and in tears accepted the Holy Penguin. i then gave him a copy of the Wiley Linux Bible 2008 in PDF and blessed his saved soul.

@oyb

any vista evangelist is nothing short of a self-styled Televangelist in the pay of M$. i just read somewhere )probably pcworld) that when vista came out even M$ execs dissed it.

soon, you will see the light.

wackness is yer average coming-of-age crowd wower about stoners and stoning. its enteratining mostly, and ben kingsley did well, as did famke janssen but the best stoner acting was by Mary-Kate Olsen.

its message is sublime, hidden in that smoky haze that always wafts around stoners.

its a bit like Trainspotting meets Goodwill Hunting in some ways.

army of darkness-the point where evil dead franchise finally accepted its nonsensical roots and embraced allout comedy. great larfs all around, Ash in his best outing. wish there was a sequel to let us how how he fared in the future he unwittingly found himself in.

yah i have books on other creatures:

How Elves Are Related To Goblins  

Nigerians love making a big deal out of being abroad

finished watching the strangers.

creepy. not much story ( how many of these sort do?) but, yeah, the chill factor was amped up real high. liv tyler did good. earlier on grappled with the wackness, love guru and the incredibly unnecessary sex and the city. looking around for wall-e.

i goaded you.

you struck me as perfectly the kind of person who'd love caspian

must be the purple fonts.

who's RR, Roger Ramjet? hehe.

red sonja (walking down memory lane)hmm. ah. that Arnie Schwarnie flick-flick sword movie? wow, im amazed you can remember that. all that flashes in my mind are leather loin clothes, steroidal muscles, broadswords and yes brigitte.

i have this terrific book: The Zombie Survival Guide. you have never read something sicker or funnier.

linux is good this time of year

besides tons of linux apps i have the following windows apps working perfectly (others less so, but working nonetheless)

1. realplayer
2. office 2003 (outlook 2003 doesnt work, but then i have thunderbird and evolution)
3. itunes 7.5
4. video convert master
5. imtoo ipod computer transfer
6. winamp
7. halo (a few visual glitches, must be direct x)
8. notepad



linux stuff i got

1. full compiz-fusion
2. songbird
3. audacious
4. audacity
5. rhythmbox
6. brasserio cd burner
7. nero linux
8. picasa 2
9. opera
10. avant window navigator
11. abiword
12. scribus
13. blender
14. mplayer
15. totem video player
16. all relevant audio and video codecs (flac, lame, xvid, divx, avi,mpeg2, mpeg4, mov, etc)]
17. lmms
18. devede

tons of stuff.



and then theres leopard where i have ilife 08, iwork 08, bootcamp, office 2008, final cut, and oethr stuff.


im windows free!

seen prince caspian? i have never been a fan of the narnia series. why? cos the fantasy world felt cobbled together from various cliches and tacked on to a thin story. it has nice visuals and rather spectacular vistas but theres this fantasy ingredient missing (properly nailed in willow and the lord of the rings series). its too much wandering around doing precious little.

i hope it dies a natural death.

as i pray same for harry potter

kids books? any dr seuss in there *giggles* or enyd blighton? pray god no harry potter.

or narnia ugh!

anything with zombies and decapitation is a good kids book in my say

haha, steve carell (rhymes with will ferell) the perennial douchebag who can't make me larf-except as the mayor in Horton Hears a Who (you really ought to watch that skit)

get smart was so funny in places but i think he did a better job in the daily show lean years. is it me or does he try too hard (like his rhyming bud will ferrell. cant see him as holmes though)?

now sherlock. hmm, enough "elementary, my dear watson" even though Holmes never said that in any of the books.

speaking of books, my cupboard is bare, as it were, so recommend me someting.

you are mixing up your fantasy creatures. you are a goblin who thinks she is an elf and fancies the swamp thing, but her true love is an orc who wants to gobble her. she ran to the hulk to save her but turns out he is in cahoots with the swamp thing who also wants to gobble her up.

so you ran into my arms and i kept you safe in the place no one can touch you-

HELL.

@femzy

yes, 3g is a special feature. it was not in the first iphone because the 1st gen iphone was essentially early-adopter technology hence its high price.
3g radio and gps would have added to the price and bulk, not to mention zapping precious battery power.

now that technical expertise is honed and production costs have droped (it costs like $175 to build one now) apple can afford to revamp the phone with 3g and gps radios embedded and still sell at $199. and still achive high battery charge levels.

look, every manufacturer can cram the latest gizmo in their gadgets, but note that every extra component costs money and adds to the cost which is then transferred to you, the end user. do you think many people could afford to pay $5000 for a phone that has gps, hsdpa, 8megapixel cam, xenon flashlight, accelerometer, infrared, carl-zeiss optics, 80gig memory, 3D chips, DNA decoder etc etc?

be sensible.

do you think the manufacturers own and invented every single component? NO! they pay royalties for hardware and software they didnt invent or hold patents to as used in the phone. for instance i beleive qualcomm owns the patent to most 3g chips so they get paid royalty.

it makes sense for companies to slim down their devices feature-wise as most cost effective as possible to make a profit. consider games consoles: ps3 and xbox360 cost more than their selling price to build so the manufacturers have to sell them at a loss and hope to recoup their investment from royalty imposed on the software sold for the machines. the wii cut down lots of snazzy features to sell dirt cheap. xbox360 arcade doesnt come with HDD or hdmi port, cheaper ps3 do away with features found on the costlier versions.

a typical gaming pc costs over 10 times the price of a ps3.

besides, that was apple's first foray into the cellphone biz.

in summary, too many tech gear make the gear too expensive unless economies of scale come into focus.

oh, and you got the price wrong:

the 16gig 3g is $299, whiole the 8gig 3g is $199

just back from zibri's blog. take a peek (www.ziphone.org for the virgins)

see what he says about DFU? i know the dude is on to something right form the 2.0beta days. now i know your opinion of him, tezz, but check it, he was first with some code zingers in the 2.0 firmware that pointed to a lot of things.

he correctly predicted the renaming of .Mac to something else (MobileMe), and the Sgold 3g/gps code. i don't know, but i have some faith in this dude.

afterall he made it a little easier for us all to free our phones (him and fredrik grevstad of ziphone GUI fame).

heres hoping he lays off that iphonesimfree baseband patch method of unlock and embrace the devteams bootloader hijacking method. i want unlocks to be permanent and not broken by updates, such as pwntool gives with the beta.

speaking of which, i hope pwnage works with 2.0. crossing my fingers because winpwn is rubbish and wrecked one iphone already.

@ tezz

guy, long time, no? seen how far this thread has gone, marvelous job. you really the man helping other folks.

apple says there are around 500 apps in the appstore now so heres waiting!

i must confess, im really gonna miss apptapp installer.

tried pwnage with 2.0 first beta and it worked, had trouble reverting to 1.1.4 when it wenk PSoD on me. however im quite confident zibi has something in the works. pwnage and winpwn and all that bootneuter stuff is dangerous and im sure apple has closed the loopholes on 2.0 by now.

hey did you try cydia yet? i havent but someone says there are more stuff there than in installer and you dont need BSD Subsys anyway. bother is that it cant sit side by side with apptapp.

tried igopher for non-wifi app installation via pc. it does get the apps but seems there is a usb driver problem and it cant upload to the phone. try it, its on google code or someplace. it might work for you.

thanks for the ebooks link.

@chikeze

always ready to help, dude.

@oyb

when you say certain drives are readyboost CAPABLE, does it ot imply that certain conditions must exist? if those conditions do not exist then the drive is not capable.

requirements are thus:

1. an access time of 1ms or less

2. The device must be capable of 2.5 MB/s read speeds for 4 KB random reads spread uniformly across the entire device and 1.75 MB/s write speeds for 512 KB random writes spread uniformly across the device


now how many average thumb drives have those speed? only a certain class, the high end ones.

the good ones.

i have a ton of average drives up to 4gigs and most of them fail vista's readyboost test, except the lexar i have.

as for the harddrives, my bad. platter systems only aid superfetch as cache, not readyboost. however all NAND flash SSD's support readyboost in an ide/sata to usb configuration.

hope that cleared the air.

oh, and whats the point of installing a service pack only to end up using a third party copy program?

forgive me, but even microsoft knows vista isnt all that it was claimed to be, hence the rush to release windows 7.

hey, even jim allchin says he is buying a mac.

@iice

RDJ IS ironman! can you picture anyone nailing that role as perfectly as he did? guy just got his breakaway role and im happy for him. its funn, but the Marvel franchise has a habit of reviving comatose careers. maybe eddie murphy needs to get to play one marv hero and save his near-dead career!

seen meet dave? i thought pluto nash was his lowest outing.

it was a prelease copy i got, you know for critics screening with the warning not to copy crawling at the bottom. its coming out today so go see it.

ryan phillipe ought to call stan lee too.

guy ritchie is doing sherlock holmes? bugger! expect mockney and tons of "self-servicer" to figure hugely. hey, didnt they say he was splitting from madonna?