European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:53pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
Englishisamust: Maradona over messi . This thread should be ban pls. Have seen enough. How I won rate maradona with Messi. Is it by freekick, goals, assists, dribble, awards, trophy. Nawooo Lol, I don even tire. Apart from dribbling, Messi beats him in everything. Agenda must agend |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:22pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
Best ratings.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:20pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
EPL best.
Halland 88? too low
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:05pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
Englishisamust: Bruno Vs dvd rating is a big disrespect to dvd fans His unsuccessful loan spell @ Everton caused it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:02pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
FIFA 23 Best Passers
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:59pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
FIFA 23 ratings.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 2:51pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Seriously did you watch him play? Maradona won the world cup in 1986 and also got to the final in 1990, dominating both tournament. Maradona joined Napoli and turned them into a powerhouse of Italian Football, winning a European cup in the process too. On no planet would anybody rate a one club wonder/system player Messi to Maradona, can Messi win a World Cup completely dominating the tournament the way Maradona did in 1986? Abi na USA 94 chubby Maradona you dey compare to Messi? If you really think Maradona is better than Messi or achieved more than LM10, then I don't know what to tell you again bro.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:52pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: You didn't watch Maradona play bro.... Lol, ok if you say so. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:49pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: Except for Italy and France, the rest is spot on... Maradona over Messi? Lmao |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 12:16pm On Sep 23, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:14am On Sep 23, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: what do you expect from papa portable Wanyama stan calling Busquets useless  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:11am On Sep 23, 2022 |
airmark: Add these people below too, so that you can go and remove your useless eyes that can't detect a useless and spineless DM.  Yeah, reactions from a situation. Should I share screenshots of Barcelona fans abusing Messi? Abi Messi is also useless  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:08am On Sep 23, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: who are we to talk when George cbk has spoken   Using screenshots from junkies to judge a player who's undroppable for club and country @ 34. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:05am On Sep 23, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:48am On Sep 23, 2022 |
BlaqFaze: george cbk, FIFA renowned football coach and analyst The useless Busquet changed Masherano's position from DM to CB and made one of the best DM in EPL (Rodri) to warm Spain's NT bench  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 10:32am On Sep 23, 2022 |
airmark: Barca will be happy to have Jorginho. Busquets exposing Barca's defence since time immemorial. George CBK  Yet no player/DM can bench him for club & country since that 2012. Imagine the rubbish post : he doesn't pass better than Mascherano. Lol |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 8:57am On Sep 23, 2022 |
Jodera: Brain teasers guys!!!
My own guess  1 .. Messi 2.. C.Ronaldo 5... Ibrahimovic 6... Halaand. 10... Martinelli Martinelli how? Nobody will use Martinelli for brain teasers/puzzles.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:42pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: I have proven Payet is better. The only reason we are still on this topic is because your bruised ego is refusing to lie down.
How many direct free kicks has Payet taken? You don’t know. You don’t know how many direct free kicks Eriksen has taken but you want to compare career stats?
If you can find a credible sports site that can tell how many direct FKs that was attempted by Payet to the ratio of how many scored, then we can have an argument but I am not even sure that argument would have a leg to stand on cos you have said before now that Ligue 1 is a farmer’s league.
I have provided the PL stats of both players in the same season and you quickly made a U-turn that it was Eriksen’s worst season. Is it Payet’s fault that Eriksen had a terrible season or you think a witch doctor told Payet to quickly go to West Ham in 2015 because it was going to be Eriksen’s worst performance? Payet is 5 years older than Eriksen. Payet is the undisputed FK taker in all his clubs. When Payet started playing FKs, Eriksen was still playing academy football. Payet has played almost 200 games more than Eriksen. But Illimitable thinks Eriksen has played more.  You have proven Payet is better in FK, but statistics showed Eriksen has scored more despite playing in the best leagues in Europe.  Take your LLL, it won't kill you  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 8:14pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: The games don’t determine the number of free kicks attempted.
This is a fraudulent way of looking at stats. Eriksen played 38 games in 14/15 and he didn’t take a single direct free kick.
Now an amateur like you would might say how can a player play 38 games without scoring a free kick but he must take one before he can score one.
We don’t know how many FKs Payet attempted in those 595 games. Unless you do, it’s a flawed way of looking at their ability as a set piece taker.
I bet you know this already but the stats have conspired so much against you that you are just throwing everything in the air. The last one was the funniest, pressure from team mates.  An expert like you want to use freekick played in the same league and year as if it was played in the same condition ( distance from goal, players in the wall, etc...).lolGame-winning You haven't answered my question - who do you think played more free kicks so far? 35 year old undisputed FK taker or 30 year old Eriksen that shared the duty with other free kick experts. So far you haven't proved in any way that Payet is better than Eriksen in freekick. Your L- diversion tactics can't work on me. With my statistics, Payet has played more free kicks and scored less despite facing farmers all through his career. Games Played - Payet Free kick played - Payet
Free kick goals - Eriksen Game winning free kick goals - Eriksen. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:53pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: Payet had more FK goals than him in the PL(the best and toughest league in Europe).
We don’t know how Eriksen would have thrived in Ligue 1 until he plays there. Many thought Messi would score 500 PL goals in one season at PSG, he scored only 6 league goals.
Therefore, the only accurate comparative stats can only be in the PL when both players faced the same officiating, same league, same opponents, same environment.
And when we compared their stats in that period, Eriksen ate grass, Payet strolled into the PFA team of the season with a mid table team like West Ham.
#Levels.  Ok Sir. Eriksen scored free kicks in Holland, Denmark, Italy and England but he won't score in France.  35-year-old Undisputed FK taker = 14 free kicks goals in 595 games 30 -year-old FK taker = 20 free kicks goals in 399 games.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:41pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:22pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:19pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: They play FKs in France but we don’t know the ratio of how many direct FK shots to how many direct FK scored. We are talking about their FK accuracy not the longevity of their careers.
In statistics, you need to be accurate. You just don’t throw numbers together. I have presented an empirical evidence that shows Eriksen took 46 FK shots and scored only 2 goals from it in the PL while Payet was in England.
The number of appearances or number of minutes do not predict the number of direct FK shots taken. Age does not also accurately determine the number of direct FK shots taken.
You have to be specific instead of throwing every shït in the air and hoping one would stick. If you have the accurate number of direct FKs taken by both Eriksen and Payet throughout their careers, then we can explore that option.
For now…..Payet >>>>>> Eriksen. Search the internet, you will see his Ligue 1 FK stats. Your statistics didn't consider - the age ( giving him edge as per experience and no taken) -no of games played -strength of opposition -strength of league -teammates who can play freekick thereby putting pressure on him Oga rest, Eriksen >>>>>> Payet  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:09pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:00pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: We don’t care about career statistics.
Your narrative started with Payet always played in Ligue 1(farmer’s league) barring 18 months in the toughest league in Europe.
While he was in the PL, he scored more from direct FK goals from fewer shots than Eriksen. There’s nothing more to add since we have been able to establish that.
Someone said the best way to compare the two is the actual number of free kicks they had taken when they were together in the same league and I agree with that theory.
It’s illogical to look at career stats when we don’t know how many FK shots were taken in those years by each player. We know the stats in the PL and those stats say Payet is more accurate at scoring from direct FKs than Eriksen.
QED!!!! Ok, they don't play free-kicks in France. Lol Your amala-logic won't work, with all available stats covering their career, Eriksen is the better free-kick taker. 30-year-old Eriksen scored 20. 35-year-old Payet scored 16. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:42pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: Older Healthier Farmers No competition More games.
None of these disproves why Eriksen scored way less from direct free kicks than Payet when both were in the PL.
Payet spent only 18 months in the PL and scored way more against PL opponents. He went back to France in the second half of 16/17 and still didn’t miss a step.
I so much love statistics.  Ok, so show us their career statistics  Who scored more free-kicks? Who played more games? Who played against better team's/GKs?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:15pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: Ronaldo is better than Bruno and Cristiano is the better taker. In the two games Bruno got the ball, the manager(Ten Hag) wanted it so to help Bruno’s poor form as at then. Bruno played PK while CR7 was on the field AND CR7 did same while Bruno was on the field. Messi allowed Suarez, Neymar and even Sanches take some freekick. In summary, it was shared with other freekick expert not just anybody. Your cognitive dissonance is what is being brought to question here. After lying for 3 days that Eriksen shared his free kick duties with 40 different players, statistics have actually revealed he took more direct FK shots than Payet but scored way less than Payet.  Kane, Modric, Bale etc all played and scored Freekick at Tottenham. He shared it with them. In 15/16 & 16/17, Eriksen scored 2 miserable direct FKs from 46 direct FK shots in the PL. Payet scored 3 direct FKs from 34 direct FK in the PL.
You are about the only football fan who thinks 2/46 is a higher rate and a higher accuracy than 3/34.
Choke who with stats?  AGE ====== Payet 35 Eriksen 30 Club Games =========== Payet 569 Eriksen 399 Game-winning freekick =================== Payet 3 Eriksen 5 Take your L in peace  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:47pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: Like I don’t have things to do outside this godforsaken place?
You have been parroting this lie that Eriksen shared free kicks with other players but that’s not true.
There are two problems with that theory. The first one is if he’s so good at it, he wouldn’t need to share and again, it depends on which side of the pitch the free kick is situated viz-a-viz his weak foot.
I like how the facts always manage to conspire against you and destroy your narrative.
See for yourself.  Bruno is one of the best PK taker in the world but he shares the duties with CR7....oya explain  Payet is older, healthier, played 97% of his career against farmers, had no competition, and played more games. Eriksen is the better free kick taker. EOD. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:00pm On Sep 21, 2022 |
Illimitable: But in those 18 months in England, Payet scored free kicks against Man Utd and Liverpool(two top teams).
Eriksen in close to 8 seasons in England has never scored a free kick against a top 6 side.
As for international free kick goals scored, Eriksen has played 8,700+ minutes for Denmark with 4 direct free kick goals scored. He scored in friendlies against low ranked teams like Scotland and Georgia & Poland. The only free kick goal he scored in a proper football game was against 92nd ranked Armenia.
Payet has played 2100+ minutes for France with 2 direct free kick goals against Russia and Cameroon. Payet’s persistent injuries has kept him away from his national side that is way more talented than Eriksen’s Denmark. We aren’t even sure Eriksen would make the French squad in his prime.
In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal in every 2,200 minutes for Denmark
Payet scored a direct free kick goal in every 1050 minutes for France.
As for club football in England(non farmer’s league)
Payet has scored 6 direct free kick goals in 4,981 mins in England.
Eriksen has 11 direct free kick goals in 25,713 mins in England.
In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal every 2,338 minutes in England.
Payet scored a direct free kick goal every 830 minutes in England.
I hereby rest my case.  You used 3+ days to come up with these points that are weaker than a penis that just ejaculated.  30 year old Eriksen has 20 Freekicks goals playing in the best leagues alongside great set pieces takers while 35 year old Payet played 98% of his football in farmers league as the only set piece taker for his clubs. Eriksen >>>>>> Payet |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:30am On Sep 20, 2022 |
hensben: 18 appearance when most were sub. lol. Just rest. So you are not allowed to score or assist as a sub? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:23am On Sep 20, 2022 |
hopefulLandlord: I'm a Madrid fan so I know you have no idea whatchu talking 'bout when you mention Bale. a player that his last injuries took almost all of his pace and made him useless in the last 3 years he spent with us Okay Hopeful Tenant, but Bale scored 81 goals in 176 apps despite injuries and issues with fans/managers/board. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Expert17: 11:20am On Sep 20, 2022 |
airmark: The Ancelotti's response wasn't directed at Hazard's Madrid's stint unlike Kroos'. Kroos was explicit and put to bed the stupid quality talk that you and others hammered on. It's only a biased, ignorant or mischievous minds, would fault his declaration.
Below was Ancelotti talking about why he benched Hazard and he also talked about injuries. Vinicius will bench all the wingers in Arsenal, Man utd, Bayern, Chelsea, so it was a no-brainer that he was preferred to Hazard, until he reaches the level expected of him.
Bye. Were you expecting Kroos to trash talk his team mate by calling him flop, burger man, lazy, etc God abeg  |