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Do or die politics of the southwest is spreading! 

Soon it will cross the river Niger!

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=494342.msg6547159#msg6547159 date=1281443188]Do u realize I dont know what the "Murder Capital" of Biafra is? Why? Cus I stayed in my damn home! Why cant Ibos stay in theirs? It seems to me like nobody (even in Nigeria) likes or trusts yall! Everyone complains. . . . Ibo this, Ibo that! You go upnorth, they behead you! You go out west, the Yorubas start hiding they kids (same thing they do in India, lest u decided to munch on the poor lil things), U come out here U sell drugs, kill your wives. . . etc! WHEN WILL IT END? WHEN WILL THE IBO MAN HAVE A MORAL CONSCIENCE?!?[/quote]Akata, I am talking about America.

Our moral conscious can be seen through Chinua Achebe who is known throughout the world for his literary work and morality. A true Igbo man. And you wouldn't dare mock that man or ALL of Africa would be at your head.

Old shut up you old hag Tpiah. You are probably one of those old women with those saggy in the Ekiti picture.

Ileke-Idi, biko come in here and explain that picture. Is that what you are going to look like when you are old?

Now the cleanest Yoruba people I hear are from Ekiti state. They are clean by Yoruba standards. 

bk.babe97y is such a confused Yoruba, I am starting to feel sorry for him. Being called an akata makes him angry, because he cannot fit in anywhere. Blacks in America do not accept him, Nigerians don't accept him. Where does he fit in?   

Learn your language [/b]and [b]culture [/b]then come back to Nairaland you [b]akata.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=494342.msg6544832#msg6544832 date=1281418980]No I cant! What I can comprehend tho is that wut u r inside is what u manifest outside! Like your brothers in Dallas. . . . Killers inside, Killas outside![/quote]And you as an akata is not? Black on black crime is horrendous in the states. U talking to someone who lives in the former murder capital of the U.S. Now it is Philly.

Tell your homeys in the hood to stop killing each other over a block they don't own. lol  

And show the real Owerri!

Even though I think it is a backwaters town, it is still cleaner than most Yoruba cities.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=494342.msg6544814#msg6544814 date=1281418680]At times I wonder if u got pebbles for brains! You said yall aint dirty, I showed u a very filthy Ibo town, now u showing me a clean one. . . . ? [/quote]You are so stoopid, it is not even funny anymore akata. Can you keep up? We are talking about people, not cities. And Igbo cities are far cleaner than any Yoruba city. Can you comprehend that?

Now let us take a look at Mushin!

Yorubas. . .

chyz:
Nice pic. Look how clean the street is even the people there are dressed to impress . The residents actually sweep the trash to the side unlike the filthy Yorubas.Thanx for proving we're clean.

Gbam! lol

If this was Yorubaland, the trash would be in the street!

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=494342.msg6544799#msg6544799 date=1281418384]Sorry, dude, thats Owerri, Eastern Nigeria! . I thot Ibos hate dirt. Looks to me like yall live in it![/quote]Well if Owerri was populated by Yorubas, it would be a lot worse. It doesn't surprise me that it is Owerri, because the city is overpopulated, but the people aren't dirty.

Now look another Igbo town. Enugu. . . Very clean!

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=494342.msg6544789#msg6544789 date=1281418193]I guess every Ibo man in this dilapidated town musta been working, then. . . .[/quote]That could have been any town in Nigeria. And the people in the picture look very clean.

Now go to sleep you akata. It is past your bed time.

We were not talking about towns, we were talking about the people. And everyone knows Igbos are village people while Yoruba are city dwellers who enjoy slums.

bk.babe97y,

As much as you try akata, the Igbo man has always been clean. Go to an impoverished village and the Igbo people will be clean. We hate dirt. Unless we are working, then we will get dirty, but other than that, the dirt is our enemy.

But Yorubas, the dirt is their. . .

[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=494307.msg6544131#msg6544131 date=1281399655][size=25pt][color=deeppink]Hang him already.[/color][/size][/quote]Why?

He committed no harm. 419 is simply playing on someones greed.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=494058.msg6544120#msg6544120 date=1281399471]Later, he'll call me a tribalist.[/quote]That is because you are a closet tribalist.

419 is played out.

We need get like the Mexicans in a more "lucrative" business.

sojjy:
I'm not surprise with the action of Ojukwu.He's is an Igbo man and Igbo man doesn't mind selling his birthright for money,all in the name of business.

Let me guess, you are a Yoruba. Figures. . . Backstabbing bastarrds

[quote author=Care-Taker link=topic=494058.msg6543875#msg6543875 date=1281395901]Ojukwu is not in control of the Igbo's votes. His is a political statement.

Its time out for him, i am Igbo, a stakeholder of the igbo interest for that matter,
Goodluck Ebele Jonathan is our Annoitted President [color=#770077][/color][/quote]Shut up! Goodluck Jonathan is not our man either. I prefer Pat Utomi. Anyone else comes secondary. Now hush. Nwa afor Igbo!

And this article discusses the dubious nature of the Yoruba.

This threads shows that the Yoruba views the Igbo as mortal enemies!

We Igbos never considered the Yorubas as rivals! People should read this interesting point of view.

10 reasons why Anioma State should be in the south-east geopolitical zone

by Ayo Akinfe


[1] It will be a predominantly Igbo-speaking state

[2] Even if the people do not consider themselves Igbo, there are enough cultural ties that bond them with other states in the south-east geo-political zone

3] Aniomans have always been treated as second class Igbos because they were part of the Western Region and Bendel States. If they are made part of the south-east, that will stop.

[4] Let us face it, the Urhobos, Itshekhiris and Ijaws in Delta State outnumber the Aniomas and would not allow them to achieve dominant positions within the state

[5] At the moment, the south-east is the one zone crying out for more states. Apart from Etiti State, there is not much room for the creation of others.

[6] There is nothing wrong with states in one zone being on different sides of the River Niger. Remember that Benue State is south of the river, as is Kwara State, yet they are in the north central zone.

[7] According to Cornelius Adebayo, the Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi States want to create Oya State and make it part of the south-west. If this happens, a precedence has been set.

[8] I know a lot of Aniomans have a deep afinity towards Benin and Edo but being part of the south-east does not mean this will end. The Yorubas of Ilorin do not stop celebrating the Oro festival just because they are in the north-central political zone.

[9] A lot of Aniomans have not been able to occupy positions their abilities deserve because they have been victims of not being clear cut members of ethnic groups. For instance Senator Patrick Osakwe of Asaba could not be put forward for senate president, despite the fact that he is probably the most qualified Igbo-speaking senator for the job. Being part of the sout-east will resolve this.

[10] Creating Anioma State and making it part of the south-east, should lead to an increased westward migration of Igbos. This is necessary because of the high population density in the region which is putting pressure on resources, leading to a host of social problems.

A Peaceful or Violent Revolution in Nigeria?
By Fred Igbeare

On the brink of revolutionary change in Nigeria, what is not clear is whether that change would be peaceful or violent. My preference is for the peaceful but events could turn out differently. So much really depends on whether the presidential elections are free and fair. If at the end of the exercises people feel they can dictate the direction of governance through the ballot, then there is a chance for peace. Otherwise, please prepare sadly for a bloodbath!

Not everyone seems to appreciate the severity of the situation. Someone like Senator Ike Ekweremadu appears to reflect how out of touch many in the ruling class are. According to reports, he considers the funds requested by INEC for genuine voter registration to be too much! Amazing! I guess it would be cheaper to let the country go ablaze? What has the senator and his clique done until now about the problem? Perhaps his aim is to aid those desperately seeking loopholes to rig the elections?

It is understandable that election riggers would now feel desperate as their options appear to be disappearing with the new INEC chairman. Attahiru Jega may not just be talking about conducting free and fair elections. He may actually be quite capable of doing the job. Good intentions and great speeches are not enough. Competence matters. If Jega can pull it off, then the peaceful route to revolution in Nigeria may prevail. Then people can get some relief from oppression by firing bad leaders and hiring good ones through the ballot. Read: regime change through the vote, which would normally be a more peaceful and less costly form of revolution.

Of course, there would still remain the task of ensuring that the appointment process for electoral arbiters only produces neutral ones. Jega won’t live forever, you know. On the whole, nevertheless, if meaningful elections continue to elude Nigerians and leadership continues to be this bad, then the violent option for revolution would become more attractive. That would truly be unfortunate.

Dramatic change has become necessary because, with limited exceptions, the mass of Nigerians have lacked the power to control their governments democratically. Instead, a crafty few have hijacked the system by force of arms for personal gain. The result has been a succession of bad governments unable to provide even basic amenities for citizens. A glaring example of this failure is the current state of insecurity where robbers, killers and kidnappers seem to function like alternate centers of power. A striking similarity here is that both armed groups, the bandits and the government, seem to be holding the people hostage.

Unhealthy for the country is a mindset of insecurity that has set in among Nigerians. Very close to the human need for food, water and shelter is the need for security. That includes security from the elements, from animals and from other humans with evil designs (including those in power). When people get abused or neglected for a long time by their own government, things can come to a boiling point. Nigeria has reached such a point. People  do  not  feel  secure. They don’t feel secure about their livelihood, about the government, about their neighbors (in many places) and about the future.

The lack of security can push people to extremities. For many in the younger generation, as an example, the career path has narrowed into kidnappings, robberies and other-unsavory-activities. Except for the few that manage to make legitimate incomes in impossible situations, the rest are pretty much left destitute. What a waste of gifts, talents and brainpower! What a potential for misdirected passions!

A huge draw for such misdirected passions has been into ‘government service’ where the looting is legalized and service is demonstrably to self. But the pot of gold in government is not everlasting, and with dwindling economic fortunes, there is not enough loot to go around. So those who rely on handouts from politicians have now found that tap of ‘goodies’ drying up fast. Consequently, as the narrative goes, some have been forced into banditry. And to add insult to injury, the politicians, who have no obligation to improve the condition of their communities, have actually made things worse by gross incompetence.

So here we find ourselves in a quandary. To go forward in the present situation is not tenable, but those that benefit from the mess are resistant to peaceful change. They don’t realize that people’s tolerance for incompetence is limited. Especially in such hard times! Especially with the stench of bad government rising in poor healthcare, severe human rights violations and a damaged educational sector! Include in this dismal picture the lack of adequate food, water and shelter!  Frustration is inevitable. Something has to give.

Change must come, preferably through peaceful means with people casting their votes. Otherwise, they may be pushed into casting other things. What the people cannot change peacefully, they may be forced to do violently out of a frenzied need to survive. It doesn’t have to end like that. If only more of those who can effect peaceful change would wake up and realize that the anxiety level has grown dangerously high.

Too many people are idle and unemployable, not just unemployed, for want of skills appropriate to the economy. Worth repeating here is the sad scenario where a great portion of national wealth-building consists largely of looting the treasury with little or no service to the people. And since tangible wealth-building hardly occurs, multitudes are left with low employment opportunities and poor access to necessities. Those exposed to such great deprivations are vulnerable to extreme ideas, heighted by access to illegal arms.

We can bring about the required change peacefully or violently. Either way, change must come. If violently, the outcome may leave more people dead and destitute than is already happening. It is a false hope for those stubbornly protecting a diseased system to think that they will survive the violence. It is time to relent.

Nigerian politicians are a bunch of buffoons.

seanet02:
THEN HOW DID OBJ IMPOSE YARADUA ON THE NORTH AGAINST THEIR WISHES? HOW WILL THEY STOP HIM FROM IMPOSING GJ ON YOU IBOS
WHEN WILL IBOS MOUNT NIGERIAN PRESIDENCY
150YEARS SAYS OBASANJO
GBAM GBAM GBAM!!

OBJ is just opportunistic as any Yoruba before him. You already burned that bridge with the Hausa who do not trust the Yorubas. Can't blame the Igbos since we are not in power. We just own your land!

So while your people are fighting over scraps with do or die politics, we Igbos will run the economy while the Hausa control the military. So where will the Yorubas be?

seanet02:
YET THE NORTH HAS THE HIGHEST RATE OF POVERTY, IGNORANCE, ABJECT POVERTY, ABJECT IGNORANCE, ABJECT ILLITERACY, POOR LEADERSHIP AND YET THE WORST PEOPLE CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY THE EAST hUM,MMMMMM

And Northern leaders still treat Yoruba politicians/leaders as house boys. Ha! And Yorubaland is filled with street urchins which you will never see in the East. Igbos don't beg unlike the Yoruba.

You are one big liar, because poverty rates are higher in the southwest than the southeast which per capita, the people are wealthier even though our region is neglected. That speaks volumes. And Lagos or Abuja would not be what it is if it was not for Igbo businessmen.

Awolowo ahead of who?

Ahmadu Bello, the man who was not as educated as both Awolowo and Zik outsmarted both of them. That man had common sense and you cannot learn that.

seanet02:
PRINCIPLED YET A GOVERNOR WAS KIDNAPPED IN BROAD DAY LIGHTDO OR DIE? YOU DISAPPOINTED YOUR CRETINS ALIKE IN ABA AS IGBOS ARE NOTED FOR MORE CASH AND CARRY POLITICS THAN YORUBAS. JUST USE KALU VS TINUBU AS EXAMPLE. JUST A THREE YEAR SCOLDING AND KALU RAN BACK TO PDP JUST BECAUSE HIS PURSE IS GOING LEANER EVERYDAY, TINUBU WAS ABLE TO DO WITHOUT FGS ALLOCATION TO HIS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS YET LAGOS SURVIVED AND TILL NOW TINUBU IS STILL IN ACTION CONGRESS!!!!
IBOS ARE MORE NOTED FOR SHOP AND CHOP POLITICS THAN ANY TRIBE IN THE WORLD

You are comparing Lagos, whose wealth is built off of Eastern oil from states like Abia. Lets see how Lagos would fare without Eastern oil. It will dry up like the slum filled city it is.

Do or die politics. No one has to lose their life in politics. At least Igbos no killing each other is a waste of money.

udezue,

It started before him my brother.

Definitely do or die politics that the Yoruba are known for.

To eat from the scraps of the north. Killing their own people. Shame.

Ileke-Idi,

I shall call a spade a spade. You are a tribalist. Enjoy. Just mind your own business and worry about your people killing each other and the do or die politics in the southwest.

At least with kidnapping, Easterners do not kill their target. They just want money. Simply business. Not saying that is right though.

Why are all your post dealing with tribal flash-points?