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^^^ Jesus offered himself?!? do you even read the bible at all? |
Emusan: This is part of what I'm saying when I said Muhammed never had the full knowledge of the scriptures...Muhammad (pbuh) didn't write Jeremiah 8:8. and Jeremiah didn't say "lying tongues" he said "lying PENS" Emusan: When was the book of Jeremiah written?am I your bible studies teacher now? Emusan: ...some people later brought about 14 books called Apocalyphat which were claimed to been written about 350 BC of which the Jews themselves publicaly declared that no voice of a Prophet was heard in Isreal but some still went aheard to insert some of those book in their Bible. Emusan: You are right but look at those versions with their motive of removing those verses.if those verses were the word of God what gives them the right to delete? but if they discovered the verses were not, then you agree bible gas been corrupted. when are going to get back to fully addressing my initial query? |
Emusan: When was Isaiah said the scriptures are begin to corrupt? I mean the time it started to corrupt.-sorry, I meant Jeremiah. jer. 8:8- "How can you say, "We are wise because we have the word of the LORD," when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?" (New Living Translation) and from his day to the present there's no reason to believe the corruption has stopped. -today the roman catholic bible has 73 books while the protestants' has only 66 books! so did the catholics corrupt the bible by adding or have the protestants corrupted the bible by removing? -you also have various versions of the bible adding/removing verses here and there |
F00028: ^^^ |
^^^ it was a simple specific question about Jesus' status and mission but you gone into a tirade about Muhammad. can you not defend your claim beyond making vague references? and as for your Bible, the Prophet Isaiah says your scriptures are corrupt |
Emusan: If Jesus didn't make such claim how will He fulfil the prophecy of Old Testament?then first things first. let's have it. |
Emusan: He even revealed it thousand years ago before He was born through His holy prophets.my question was did he HIMSELF make the claim? but if your answer is 'no' and all you have are the words of other people, then let's have it. Emusan: I wonder what the word [size=14pt]GOSPEL[/size] is looking for in the Qur'an.the word in the Qur'an is "injeel" (translated: gospel) and it is specifically God's revelations to Jesus Christ i.e "the gospel of Jesus" and NOT the gospel ACCORDING to mathew or luke etc. Emusan: The funny part is that Muhammad never knows Bible before He composed his book.really? you know this how? |
udatso:an All Loving, All Powerful God can just easily forgive |
Macelliot: Jesus christ is GOD THE SON. He died for the sins of the whole world...is that what the man himself claimed or what you ascribe to him? |
Macelliot: I can't explain either. But what I know is that, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the father, except through him.if that's so, then where was Moses leading all those people? ![]() |
@op that's because muslims don't serve Muhammad (saw). they serve the One, True, Eternal, Absolute God. He does not beget, was not begotten and there's nothing like Him. |
[quote author=tpia@]Muslims'best example, was monogamous before he became polygaous though.[/quote]exactly! |
[quote author=tpia@]In nigeria especially, most imams are polygamous and this is seen as a requirement of their deen, anything else would look strange because polygamy is ingrained in the culture...[/quote]polygamy is not just ingrained in the culture, its ingrained in the religion. its enjoined by God. Muslims know because their best example (pbuh) was polygamous and so were his companions (r.a). right now I can only think of a couple of them that were monogamous. that stipulation in the ad was misguided. and following it up with " she must be pretty" only compounded the problem. what's "pretty" is a pretty subjective evaluation. and stipulating imams should only marry beautiful women will open a door to whole different kind of fitna. |
@op your answer is in: 1st Timothy Chapter 2 verse 12. "But I permit not a woman to teach. Nor to have authority over the man. But to be in silence." |
@sino it's not even compulsory to get married at all ...but if you are gonna marry then look to the life of your Prophet [pbuh] and his companions and see how they practiced that ayah. that's your best exegesis. |
you guys need to go read the verse again! marrying one wife is the exception, not the rule. an exception for those who are incapable if doing justice. so sticking to one wife for those who able is not really a good quality for an imam. |
[quote author=tpia@]turkey generally does not espouse polygamy.[/quote]16th century Turkey? you're sure? |
"He must be married with a maximum of one wife who must be very pretty and beautiful (to ensure he doesn't look at other women)." that's funny! if he only has one wife how's he gonna advise polygamous men on wives' issues? and how's the panel gonna know how "pretty and beautiful" she is? besides, a pretty woman isn't really what keeps a man from straying. |
golpen: They will never do it for the sake of other sects if they don't stand to gain. Not even when the implementation doesn't affect them in any way. An example is hijab. Imagine this same britain are planning to ban the use and want to benefit from the islamic business system.britain: don't like muslim dress, love muslim money. go figure |
Princephelar: I guess you skipped those three questions and pls correct me since that's not trueI dont need to skip anything. you made a false claim...unless of course you substantiate it. |
first of all, this is not true: Princephelar: ..If you take a statistics of single christian mothers in nigeria,almost 70% of them will share this story. |
vivian francis: good 4 men who love marrying infant as wife"underaged" girls are killers? ![]() |
vivian francis: good 4 men who love marrying infant as wife"underaged" girls are killers? ![]() |
@OP how do you reconcile all that with this: Deuteronomy 24:16 (International Standard Version): "Fathers must not be put to death on account of their children's sin; nor shall,children die,on account of their fathers' sin. Each person is to be put to death for his own sin." isn't Adam's "disobedience" justifiably his own to bear? |
italo: [quote author=italo]Oh! Thank God you believe Isaiah...I believe he says your scripture is corrupted. italo: Is. 9:6 For to us a child is born,A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8 ), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28). Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and,the Father; it is an obvious self- contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace. |
realtem: did you bother to read the one i posted up there in reply to your question. I think that really settles everythingI did. and I wonder how knowing what you know you still went ahead and posted that craftily structured misleading OP. |
realtem: He's just picking verses out of contextu expose yourself. here's your context: " Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20). It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist." source:http://www.gotquestions.org/war-Bible.html |
italo: Many places!now who's making excuses? ![]() if you dont have it just be honest and say so. and as for your original bible, the prophet Isaiah says the scriptures have long been corrupted so ask him where it is. |
@realtem and biblical Jesus' second coming is going to be bloodier and far more destructive. Jesus will “judge and wage war” (Rev. 19:11), his robe will be “dipped in blood” (19:13), and he will be accompanied by “armies” (19:14) with which he will “strike down the nations” (19:15), including “the Gentiles” in, general and “the nations that were opposed to him” in specific. This will result in the “utter destruction of all his enemies”. Furthermore: “in his second coming[,] he will complete their,destruction, when he shall put down all opposing rule, principality, and power.” Once he conquers the infidels, Jesus “will rule them with an iron rod” (19:15). |
italo: Please, stop comparing Jesus with Mohammed.where did Jesus Christ, the son of Mary ever claim to be God? ![]() |
Samboot: there's another thing common to the muslims, I don't know whether anyone else has noticed that, if U avn't, then start to take note frm today.. Wen U pple are talk'n abt trinnity the question they always ask is, ''TELL US WHERE JESUS SAID IN THE BIBLE THAT I AM GOD, WORSHIP ME'' have U noticed that too..that should be your concern as well. something as fundamental to your faith as the the "trinity", and Jesus Christ never taught it?! |
realtem: lack of knowledge destroys.as it is doing to you... |

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