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 Christianity Etc › The Trouble With Richard Dawkins by F00028(op): 10:49pm On Aug 20, 2013 |
[img]http://1.bp..com/-Tx6Gz9dmDTw/Ug-fxPLFNrI/AAAAAAAAAR8/sA8_Jn7cOB4/s280/dawkins.jpg[/img] Richard Dawkins speaks like a colonial relic resurrected from the past, and naturally he is out of touch with the current society; he speaks pejoratively about Muslims that seems to be coloured by his obsession with Darwin’s race-centric evolution theory. His recent jibe on tweeter about the less evolved Muslims having less Nobel Prize than Trinity College went viral, and it is part of his catalogue of smears against the voiceless Muslim community. For years, believers from all sections of society have tolerated his unrestrained arrogance in propagating atheist dogmas, as if he had witnessed the creation of the universe. Why is the man so impatient? Nobody in this world is contesting the certainty of death. And soon Dawkins will have his answer regarding afterlife, which in turn will answer the questions about the creation and purpose of life on earth. I pray that it is sooner for his sake - he seems unsettled, and from the believers’ perspective, this is expected, because atheists do not really have full conviction that life is a coincidence, a product of evolution, and it simply ends here. Our intelligence has propelled us to ask why we exist, and our observation of life and the universe clearly tells us nothing happens by chance, for example leaving building materials in a field will not result in the creation of a building by chance. Hence, there is always a lingering doubt in the back of the atheist’s mind; otherwise, they would exhibit more serenity than believers, who are agitated by the notions of accountability in the hereafter. It is this deep uncertainty that drives the likes of Dawkins to knock on our door and push to debate the issues, because it is fundamentally about his insecurity. The more we learn about the universe, the more we should acknowledge the magnitude of our ignorance; instead an arrogant position is taken, as if these atheists can recreate the universe. Their uncertainty could be laid to rest, if some atheists came back from the dead to verify the answers to the meaning of life and if death is the final destination. In contrast, our Imams and learned scholars are not behaving in the same way, because their conviction actually satisfies their mind and the heart. At most they will gently invite non-believers to embrace Islam, not get fanatical about this process, and constantly seek confrontation. The same applies to devout Jews and Christians; let us ignore the exceptions, there will always be exceptions like the crazy preachers and missionaries on TV. Richard Dawkins as one of the leaders of the Atheist trend is trying to emulate a Prophet, and guide humanity to his way of thinking, and so far he has only manage to conjure up a handful of followers. Fanatical atheists like Dawkins need to realise, despite all their envious jibes, it is the followers of Muhammad that have passed the test of time and continue to grow, whilst minions like Dawkins will vanish like dusts with his handful of followers. As an academic one would expect him to rise above bigotry, yet he seems to have jumped into bed with the low level racist hooligans of the far right, joining the anti-Muslim tirades. His pejorative description of the Muslim women’s dress code as a bin liner, puts him in bar with the likes of Tommy Robinson, Pam Gellar and Melanie Phillips. He ironically describes Islam using the religious term evil. What is evil in the book of atheists? Like the superficial racist far-right, Dawkins implicitly makes parallels between Mein Kampf and the Quran (a book he has not read and studied), what an irony, because it is the far right takes inspiration from Hitler. Dawkins also endorses the works of another far right anti Muslim bigot, Geert Wilders - I see the parallels between Dawkins and the likes of racist colonialists like Cecil Rhodes. His mindset seems to reflect the ideas and values of that time. It was during the colonial times of Cecil Rhodes that European nations grew wealthy through a combination of piracy, slavery and theft (imperialism), coupled with intellectual and scientific advancements (Industrial revolution), all used to subjugate the conquered nations; this position intoxicated the ruling class so much, they produced academic ‘theories’ that put the white men at the apex of the human chain, they called it ‘evolution’. One cannot deny the terrible consequence from such theories which gave rise to corollary ideas of racial purity and eugenics to justify systematic genocide. The fate was terrible for much of the indigenous peoples, the Aboriginals in Australia, the blacks in Africa, Indians in Asia were considered inferior human race, lower in the evolution chain, terms like savage races, and advanced animals were used to describe them. Even today they cite the book of Darwin “The Origins of Species” but not its full title “The Origin of Species or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life”. Britain has moved from a colonial nation to a multicultural society; it accommodates people of various religious and racial background; Mo Farah, Amir Khan, Syeeda Warsi, Andy Murray, Sadiq Khan, David Cameron are all part of the same British Rainbow. It seems Richard Dawkins and his far right companions and allies are struggling to fit in. Yamin Zakaria ( yamin@radicalviews.org ) Published 17/08/2013 London, UK www.radicalviews.org http://yaminzakaria..com 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Some Muslim Questions About The Bible by F00028: 2:05pm On Aug 19, 2013 |
Musa Shehu: How can 2 kings 19 and Isaiah 37 be identical word for word? they written by different by people many many years apart. and remember according to christian teaching they were "inspired" not dictated to. |
| Romance › Re: 10 Things Men Hate About Women by F00028: 1:25pm On Aug 19, 2013 |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 6:33am On Aug 19, 2013 |
@italo anyone calm enough to look past your foul hot air sees you really got nothing. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 6:30am On Aug 19, 2013 |
thorpido: ...I hope u will let Him lead you to where He is.He said,where I go,you(unbelievers) cannot come'.then you have a problem here. you better start looking at the bible more closely for the actual teachings of Jesus Chris himself and not the invented doctrines of other men. for your salvation depends upon it. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 8:39pm On Aug 18, 2013 |
thorpido: It's obvious you just want to twist scriptures and give it your own meanings when those scriptures are plainly referring to Jesus.Stay with what Muhammad taught you if that satisfies you.The bible says all things shall be revealed at the end.its obvious you are in denial. word of advice: if you can't take the heat stay outta the kitchen.  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 4:56pm On Aug 18, 2013 |
italo: Isaiah 9:6Jesus, really? - A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). - A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8 ), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28). - He does not ask or need to be save by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). - He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self- contradiction. -He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 3:26pm On Aug 18, 2013 |
italo: 1 million places.for starters: this is disappointing have you actually ever read Isaiah 53? Isaiah 53 speaks of a man who was despised by mankind, had “no form nor comeliness”; who was wounded for our transgressions; who said not a word; and was buried with the wicked and the rich… etc But…according to your bible Jesus had followers who loved him (to this day there are 1.5 billion of us muslims who love him not despise him); -you claim Jesus was not merely wounded for our transgressions he was killed; -Jesus did speak-he spoke to the jews, to pilate and on the cross; and - he not was buried and even f you can call it that, he was alone! Isaiah 53 also says God will prolong his life and he will live to even see his offspring: Did the biblical Jesus have a wife (s) and kids?  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 1:47pm On Aug 18, 2013 |
italo: Countless places.quit stalling. it's a simple question: F00028: where in the old testament is "Jesus" spoken of? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 11:13am On Aug 18, 2013 |
thorpido: This scripture you quoted is from the quoran and they are the words of muhammed.You said Jesus had injeel and His words are not the one in the bible.How can you believe one is sent from God without his words?Does that not show a deep hollow in what you believe?where in the old testament is "Jesus" spoken of? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 12:35pm On Aug 17, 2013 |
Samunique: Musilms believe the bible has been altered and corrupted.the roman catholic's has 73 BOOKS, protestant's has 66 BOOKS, the ethiopian orthodox's has 81BOOKS. what is one supposed to think?  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 12:26pm On Aug 17, 2013 |
italo: The Bible at the time of Mohammed is the same we have now.liar, liar, pants on fire!!! tell ne which "bible" was available at the Prophet's (pbuh) time? the roman catholic's with 73 BOOKS? protestant's with 66 BOOKS? or the ethiopian orthodox's with 81 BOOKS? mtcheeew...this is something you tell yourselves in private not in open forum where any lay person like with access to the internet can easily expose your fraud. italo: Mohammed said it was the word of God...sigh...can't a christian ever hold up his end of a religious dialogue without making false claims? show me where the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said the "bible" was the word of God. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 9:16am On Aug 17, 2013 |
thorpido: so which 'injeel'then do you accept since as you say none was written when Jesus was here on the earth.Don't you think it's unreasonable to believe what you don't even know?by saying I believe, I mean I accept that Jesus Christ was truly sent by God, and all he actually preached to the lost sheep of the house of israel was from God (injeel). that I believe. eg: Jesus said, "O Children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord...(Quran 5:72) now I know that is a valid piece of the injeel, the gospel of Jesus Christ. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 8:21am On Aug 17, 2013 |
italo: The book Mohammed said God told him to believe...which you are ashamed to mention.we, like our prophet (pbuh) believe in all the previous scriptures God gave to his prophets (pbut) before him. eg: -taurat/torah to Moses (pbuh), and -injeel to Jesus (pbuh) BUT those scriptures, unlike the Quran, have not been preserved in their pristine purity! e.g if you know your bible history you know Jesus Christ never wtote down a word, never asked anyone to write down a word, and while he was around nit a single word was written down. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Muslim by F00028: 10:39pm On Aug 16, 2013 |
 F00028: Luke 6:40 (KJV): |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 7:10pm On Aug 16, 2013 |
italo: Gratitude for lies that led to a religion that teaches that we Christians and other infidels should be killed?liar italo: Then we owe Shekau en eternal debt of gratitude too, dont we?na you sabi dat one. wetin you owe shekau no be my concern. italo: What is Christian supposed to call a liar?first, how does a christian identify a liar? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 12:12pm On Aug 16, 2013 |
@thorpido the Prophet Muhammad (saw) never had a copy. and what original are you on about? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 12:09pm On Aug 16, 2013 |
italo: @ lilbakar,you and people like you owe the Prophet Muhammad (saw) an eternal debt off gratitude. you get to take cheap shots like this and Muslims cant respond in kind about your Jesus. must make you feel very very christian I imagine |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by F00028: 9:46am On Aug 15, 2013 |
mazaje: I noticed that you do not want to touch the last part, the Koran claims that embryo develops bones that is later covered in flesh . . .whats the use? with you it'll just be another exercise in futility vedaxcool:it's a crying shame, vedaxcool 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by F00028: 5:44am On Aug 15, 2013 |
and btw Dr. Keith L. Moore PhD, DSc, FIAC, FRSM, FAAA is a professor emeritus in the division of anatomy , in the Faculty of Surgery, at the University of Toronto , Ontario, Canada. Moore is associate dean for Basic Medical Sciences in the university's Faculty of Medicine , and was Chair of Anatomy from 1976 to 1984. He is a founding member of the American Association of Clinical Anatomists (AACA)... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by F00028: 12:40am On Aug 15, 2013 |
mazaje: What does Alaqah mean if not cloth of blood?. . Tell me, what does Alaqah mean in Arabic?. . .sigh! pay attention 'cos am tired of going over this. Alaqah: carries various meanings including: to hang, to be suspended, to be dangled, to stick, to cling, to cleave and to adhere. It can also mean to catch, to get caught, to be affixed or subjoined. Other connotations of the word ?alaqah include a leech-like substance having the resemblance of a worm; or being of a ‘creeping’ disposition inclined to the sucking of blood. Finally, its meaning includes clay that clings to the hand, blood in a general sense and thick, clotted blood - because of its clinging together. - Hans Wehr, page 634. - An Arabic-English Lexicon. Librairie Du Liban. 1968. Vol. 5, page 2134. [img]http://islampapers.files./2012/04/leech-like.png?w=529[/img] 1 Like |
| Jokes Etc › Re: A Question For The House To Solve by F00028: 9:13am On Aug 14, 2013 |
ask pastor chris he performed such a "healing" |
| Jokes Etc › Re: A Question For The House To Solve by F00028: 9:13am On Aug 14, 2013 |
ask pastor chris |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 6:49pm On Aug 13, 2013 |
Rexyl: The Bible is a divine book written by people inspired by the Spirit of God...if that is so how can 2 kings 19 and Isaiah 37 be identical word for word? they written by different by people many many years apart. and remember according to christian teaching they were "inspired" not dictated to. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 6:40pm On Aug 13, 2013 |
italo: Muhammed said "the book"...your bible is a collection of 73 BOOKS yet you christians still call it A BOOK. so who's the dumb one, you or .....you? quit playing word games. you got a point to make, get to it. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 8:16pm On Aug 12, 2013 |
italo: Jonah (Yunus) 10:94, Late Meccan."If you (Muhammad) are in doubt regarding that which We have revealed to thee, ASK those who READ the book from before you..."the "taurat" and the "injeel" |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 9:52pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
lilbakar: YES, BECAUSE A MUSLIM IS NOT A MUSLIM UNTIL HE BELIEVES IN JESUS (PBUH) AND HIS BOOK....Jesus Christ, yes. the bible, no. Jesus Christ never wrote a word, he didn't ask anyone else to write and while he was around not a single word was written. you should research the history of the bible. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Can Someone Explain These Verses? by F00028: 9:47pm On Aug 11, 2013 |
italo: Does the Quran encourage you to believe the Bible?NO |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by F00028: 8:48pm On Aug 10, 2013*. Modified: 7:55am On Aug 14, 2013 |
easy there! you seem to be losing it. mazaje: The part in the Koran muslims quote saysif you still dont get it I can't help you. mazaje: You are clearly a dishonest person, what does Alaqah mean of not cloth of blood?. . .Are you kidding me?. . .Muslims have been interpreting it as a cloth of blood which is actually what it MEANS suddenly after science has shown that it is wrong , then the excuse is that muslim scholars are wrong in their interpretation, eh?. . .is this a joke or what?. . . you are clearly out of your depth.and your wild accusations only mask your deficiencies in your imagination. but hey, if it makes you feel better... mazaje: The embryo does not resemble a leech in any-Carl Sagan, Parade magazine, April 22, 1990. And the book Billions & Billions: Thoughts on Life and Death at the Brink of the Millennium, Ballantine Books, New York: “It [the embryo] sucks blood from capillaries. It bathes itself in maternal blood, from which it extracts oxygen and nutrients. It establishes itself as a kind of parasite on the walls of the uterus… “By the third week, around the time of the first missed menstrual period, the forming embryo is about 2 millimeters long and is developing various body parts. Only at this stage does it begin to be dependent on a rudimentary placenta. It looks a little like a segmented worm.” pix1: A scanning electron microscope of the embryo (dorsal view). About 25 days. http://php.med.unsw.edu.au pix2: Left, shows an embryo of about 22 days Right, A leech’s (rear) sucker http://static.scanpix.se/ lennart_nilsson_video/video22.html http://www.sciencephoto.com/ media/366747/enlarge 1 Like
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| Nairaland General › Re: Seun Only Listens To Numbers So Sign This Petition Against Maclatunji! by F00028: 8:13pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
dam.n, logic when you hold a grudge...you hold a grudge. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by F00028: 8:02pm On Aug 10, 2013 |
mazaje: Historical fact how?. . .Hope you know that every thing that we know about Mohammed came from his alleged followers with their very biased views. . .listen, all these lamentations from you on how you don't trust our sources is not helpful. if you have EVIDENCE to the contrary just bring it and let's get on with it. skepticism on its own disproves nothing. mazaje: All Most of the prophets also appear in the bible but where changed because they wanted to create a new religion out of the existing religions of the Jews and Christians. . . f00028: give me an example of a COPIED story. mazaje: Just a claim, the koran as we know it did not exist during the time of the prophet. . .It came after him. . .Tradition says it was written on leaves, bones etc. ..But the one we have now came after him. . .Some other people wrote it down. .. f00028: the Qur'an was written down during his lifetime. every word. not only that it was committed to memory in its entirety by many. it was only compiled as a single volume after his death mazaje: The koran neglects the role of the ovum...“Sulalah” in Arabic means gentle extraction from fluid. Its meaning in the context used in Qur’an is clear from the following: “Then He made his progeny gently extracted “Sulalah Min Ma’a” from lowly fluid”. (Surah As-Sajdah, Ayah 8 ) The fluid refers to both male and female germinal fluids containing gametes and it is now a known scientific fact that both ovum and sperm are gently extracted from their environments. The ovum is extracted in a long stream of follicular fluid. Similarly one sperm out of millions is drawn out from the seminal fluid. Further, it is now common knowledge to embryologists that usually only one sperm and one ovum are involved in the normal process of fertilisation. This fact was stated by Prophet Mohammad in the Hadith below: “Not from all the fluid is the offspring created”. (Sahih Muslim, Kitab Al-Nekah, Bab Al-Azl) mazaje: secondly at no point is the embryo a cloth of blood as the koran says...the Quran doesnt actually say "clot of blood" "When the Qur’an says: “He created man of `Alaqah” , it was interpreted by Muslim scholars to imply “a clot of blood”. This was not because the word meant “a clot of blood” as we have already discussed, but because the Muslim scholars felt that in this verse it implied “a clot of blood”. If, due to the widening of human knowledge, today we are in a position to know that a child is never “a clot of blood”, all that has happened is that we can now safely say that the interpretation of the Muslim scholars was not accurate. If the Qur’an was not available in its original language, the Muslims would have had no option but to submit that the Qur’an does have a “scientific error” in it. The case of the Qur’an, however, is very different from other so-called “revealed” books, as it is still in its’ original language. mazaje: ...and at no point does the embryo resemble a leech..."The word ‘Alaqah can also be translated as ‘leech like structure’. The leech is an elongated pear shaped creature which thrives on blood sucking. At this stage of development the embryo from top view does bear a resemblance to a leech. This resemblance is even more marked if the 24 day old embryo is seen from the side. It is also interesting to note that the embryo is now dependent on the maternal blood for its nutrition and behaves very much like a leech! " mazaje: If you want to show that the koran is correct then present scientific journals not the writings of muslims apologist that don't even know what they are saying. . .--Moore, KL. ‘A scientists interpretation of references to embryology in the Qur’an.’ Journal of the Islamic Medical Association of US and Canada, 1986, 18:15, --Moore, KL. and Azzindani, AMA.: “The Developing Human, Clinically Orientated Embryology, With Islamic Additions”. 3rd Ed., Dar Al-Qiblah and WB Saunders mazaje: Present the verse from the Koran lets have a look at it. . .“Blessed is He Who made Constellations in the skies, And placed therein a Lamp And a Moon giving light.” [Al-Qur’aan 25:61] "The Arabic word for the sun in the Qur’aan, is shams. It is referred to as siraaj, which means a ‘torch’ or as wahhaaj which means ‘a blazing lamp’ or as diya which means ‘shining glory’. All three descriptions are appropriate to the sun, since it generates intense heat and light by its internal combustion. The Arabic word for the moon is qamar and it is described in the Qur’aan as muneer, which is a body that gives nur i.e. light. Again, the Qur’aanic description matches perfectly with the true nature of the moon, which does not give off light itself and is an inert body that reflects the light of the sun. Not once in the Qur’aan, is the moon mentioned as siraaj, wahhaaj or diya or the sun as nur or muneer. " here's another thing: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Reasons People Convert From Christianity To Islam by F00028: 1:44am On Aug 10, 2013 |
Pastor Kun: Don't mind the deluded clown, apart from a fact that it is a lie that Allah is the aramaic name for God, as of the time of Jesus allah was only one of over three hundren pagan gods worshipped by the arabs. It wasn't till the time of mohammed that he decided to promote his god by impersonating him with borrowed scriptures in the bible/torah that allah began to gain prominence as a god. are you even a real pastor?type in the word "God" in this Aramaic dictionary to find out what Jesus Christ used to call God: http://www.peshitta.org/lexicon/ and see: http://www.learnassyrian.com/aramaic/church/church.html |
