₦airaland Forum

koning:
You can give Fastshipping N3.5m to build an upper floor decking for you na... if him no chop half of that money, my name no be Koning. I will sure find very qualified structural engineers from the universities. I know my way.

cc: eghosajonny.

EgunMogaji:
Yes, only the foundation will have concrete. The rest would be various sizes in wood or steel studs. Obviously you are not going to pour a 2nd story concrete slab on top of wood pillars.

There's at least three such houses in Bodija, Ibadan.

Well, I got my plan from Florida and demanded my architect put it on paper as it appears but he refused. I asked him why, he told me the plan is not compatible with Nigerian way of drawing. He told me it won't be approved because my kitchen would have been too open and likely to kill an asthmatic patient if I fry something in the kitchen and got burnt. Secondly, he told me my plan called for treated wood beam and no one would have approved my plan with a wood beam. Third, it won't be approved based on the sun-roof design. Fourth, it won't be approved because two of the five bathrooms have no window. The list of why my plan won't be approved is a lot.

Fhemmmy:
That one made me roll on the floor and laughing so hard . . . .By the way, if you never mentioned you are Diasporan, no one would have known and i am sure FastShipping dont need your contract . . . Lol

See me see wahala o

koning:
Thank you my brother. That guy is just looking for Diaspora Nigerians that he rip off. That's why they back each other up here and drop outrageous quotations with the hope that someone will drop millions for them to construct a house. I am a Diaspora Nigerian too, but I come home regularly. And I know what's going on. Dem never born builder in Nigeria wey no go chop his client. The issue is how greedy are you and how much do you wan't to chop?

Can you show me where I solicited for work from you? Who is trying to rip you off? Me? Stop looking back when no one is chasing you. It is non of my business if you decide to spend 30,000 naira to do your decking. I don't need any work from you. I only gave you my take base on experience I have gathered. I have seen cost of decking here more than forty times and non is less than 2.5m naira.

By the way, the person you are praising didn't use same materials you intend to use.

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EgunMogaji:
It actually will get approve in Ibadan. Well, theoretically.

I bought my plots from a Director at Ministry of Land. I showed the plans for a 2 story plan to him and a Senior Town Planning official that was visiting in his office. The consensus is that they'll need a Nigerian structural engineer to do the calculations and stamp it. He actually gave me the contact of an architect in Ibadan that has done similar. When I contacted her, she wanted N250,000

That was the end of that

Approval with details saying on the plan that when you get to deck level you are going to use wood for beam and wood for decking??

EgunMogaji:
One of the reason that I didn't build a two story is exactly that. The normal tendency to just do the same old same old elevated slab thingie. I wasn't going to direct calculated resources at that.

Your house won't get approval if you try to do it the way we normally do things here.

The sole reason I didn't build house with upper-deck was same as yours. I just don't see myself living in a house with such heavy deck. Some people told me I was running from cost of decking and I told them I spent more on my roofing than it would have cost if I did concrete decking.

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EgunMogaji:
Some may say yes in the beginning and they waylay him in the middle

Pretty much...

koning:
You can be certain I will not be contacting you. 550k workmanship?, then you will employ A*boki boys and give them N700 a day. Price quotations depends on the quantity of each material you use. You will have to work out the exact quantity required for a light, but strong upper deck before quoting prices.

koning:
3.2 million naira ! Any builder that charges that much is either a thief or he is simply incompetent. Nigerian builders are fond of overloading a building. The building in question is fortified with extra columns. All I need is a surface that will serve as upper floor. The British used to build 3 story houses with wooden upper floors. There is absolutely no need to load an upper floor decking with steel rods.

It could be done with that amount. I just seek a builder with the same vision as me. You guys should learn to think outside the box. Avoid building collapse through unnecessary overloading.

You are looking at

Iron rods in the region of 650-700k alone.
Wood 300-350k
Granite 350k
Cement 500k
Sharp sand 150k
Piping (M&E) 400k
Water 40k
Mixer 20k

Workmanship 550k at least

Totaling about 3M naira+

That is the least you can get for a decking of 5 bedroom duplex. A 5 bedroom duplex in size is between 250 sq. mt - 400 sq. mt.

Good luck with your finding.

brabus:
It's possible! Just buy hardwood, construct the floor and you have a decking.

The poster didn't say anything about type of decking. Whether it is RCC, Steel floor or Wooding Decking.

Kayrich:
A nicely finished 2bedroom flat with 2toilet & 2bath is available to let @ oke eletu area via ijede road in ikorodu for N160k/annum and we seek for a year rent.
Good & tarred accesibililty from ogolonto junction towards ita-elewa-grammer school-itamaga road.
Facilities available are borehole water, good security, parking space, rooms wardrobed, all round tiles flooring, kitchen cabinet & other interior finishes.
Total package is N220k.

I have someone I showed and interested in this property. How does he contact you?

koning:
Can I deck a 5 bedroom duplex with N1.5m. The mid section of the upper deck will be void. I need very prudent builders to make it happen.
Drop your contacts here. I will get in touch with you. Location is Ikorodu, Lagos.

Interesting

If anyone promises to do it for you, he or she is lying to you. Prepare to spend in the region of 2.5m to 3.2 million naira.

brabus:
Beachfront | Pile Cap Reinforcement.

How much is 1 ton of 16mm, 1/2 ton of 12mm and 1/2 ton of 10mm?

Promhize:
Lies? Stop ranting and Calm your blood down. It's in the media doesn't mean it's true. Seems you all were just waiting for something to pounce on.

Politico Admits Fabricating A Hit Piece On Ben Carson -
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/06/politico-admits-fabricating-a-hit-piece-on-ben-carson/#.Vj0_0zQmMeo.twitter

No, Ben Carson Didn't Lie About West Point. It's Another Media Hit Job
http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapirono-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro

Those are right wing lying sites you have there. They peddle lies everyday. Go to politico and you won't find anything like that there.

brabus:
There's strength in collective bargaining. Let me speak with my client who's also in touch with Finland to see if you guys can work things out with them.

Okay.

brabus:
@ FastShipping,

Cheaper alternative by 3M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYdVK3BqPfk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96x2tO9Xuxw

I don't really like this 3M for the fact that it cracks easily. I will continue to talk to the guy in Finland.

Hammerglass doesn't cost much at $13,000+ but the shipping quote of $6,000 from Finland to Lagos and clearing cost is what is giving me a pause. I just want to avoid using burglary proof.

brabus:
It will shatter into pieces.

Then, no deal.

brabus:
Same guy. Checkout Clearguard Security Screen by Trellidor

http://www.trellidor.com/en/products/security-screen-clear-guard

I saw the Clearguard but can it brake or not if I shoot a .45 caliber at it or hit it with a sledge hammer?

Here is second quote I got from the guy after I negotiated with him on the phone:

brabus:


That's the reason we choose specific areas in the house.

Here is the contact for the guy in Finland:

Emmanuel Edwin Antwi
General manager
DE-Twilson Nig. Ltd
Korsholmanpusitikko 12 A6
65100 Vaasa - Finland
emmanuel.antwi@detwilson.com

brabus:
Send me to Finland now. You're the 3rd person who won't mind using it. The Atlantic View project owner is madly in love with it and dangling 2m on specific areas in the building. The rep here (in naija) is kinda lazy and not sharp but if you don't mind, I can forward you his details. I just believe you'll do better speaking directly with the guys abroad.

I spoke to the guy in Finland and he sent me a quote for my windows and doors as specified in my plan. The quote was $16,000+ and shipping to Nigeria for about $6,000.

I spoke to the lady in Lagos too but she sent me to another guy in Ghana. When I called Ghana, they never picked up calls there.

brabus:
Not sure but I'm sure of Hammerglass by Det-Wilson

The thing cost like no man's business. Already working on alternatives.

Is Hammerglass now available in Lagos? I don't mind spending 2M using it.

brabus:
Security Screen and Shutters that make sense

Does Trellidor make windows with unbreakable glass?

CSTR2:
This is no news. The russsian nuclear capability is frightening, same for America.
The US is ofcourse scared of a nuclear war with Russia, it doesn't mean they can't obliterate Russia in return.
America has much more to lose than backward Russia.

Exactly.

EgunMogaji:
Yeah it simply means no one has tried it yet.

Why don't you go and try it out with your money and if your truck doesn't get burned then we'll know.

How's that?

Why should I try something I know has zero chance of working in a particular society? I am not stu.pid to go into such task. A system that works in the U.S not necessarily going to work in Nigeria.

EgunMogaji:
That's your point of view which I don't subscribe to.

It can work if someone can take it on.

For the fact that it hasn't been done in Nigeria means a lot. If you disagree with my notion, you can go ahead and be the first to do such business in Nigeria.

EgunMogaji:
Yes, it's not uncommon even here in the USA in small communities.

Nigerians are too fearful, oya come and try to burn my office/vans down and see what happens

http://reason.org/news/show/fire-protection-privatization

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-richfire26oct26-story.html

http://dailysignal.com/2009/08/26/how-private-fire-departments-success-undermines-obamacare/

Nigeria can never move forward if we continue to rely on government to do everything. It's a partnership of government and private entities.

We are not ready for such task in Nigeria. If you try such thing in Nigeria, be ready to get your trucks set on fire the day you refuse to put out fire because you didn't get paid for previous work you did.

EgunMogaji:
Can't an enterprising person import fire trucks, a mixture of new and used, and set up a private fire brigade in Nigeria?

In other words, you want to get paid for putting out fire.

You should be ready to put out fire in your own office the day you refuse to put out fire because you didn't get paid for previous job and people decide to punish you by setting your trucks on fire.