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Nihilist:
I maybe wrong, but I kinda remember RLC playing in exactly that #10 position a few times under Guus last season and was completely underwhelming.

Consider me unimpressed that RLC looked good against a club that doesn't even have a wikipedia page. Mikel scored against them too. I'm not optimistic about his chances either.

Good you are not Conte and never will be

PS; take an hour of your time to watch some of his game.

Dortmund don score

nateevs:
Brilliant observation FBS. I had been thinking this, seeing I saw RLC play up front a few times when he much very much younger. Now I agree that is a brilliant move. Play him up top with a clinical dude and that could be something to look forward to. It will be interesting to see how he uses his height and large frame to create chances.

Bat & RLC in a forward two? Conte is tickling me with new ideas. I am beginning to think this is one fella who is extremely multi-dimensional.

Thanks boss.

It just feels right to see your "babies" grow. Na to dey bully opposition in the box + yafun yafun penarities

As for Conte, he is yet to "buy" me over but one thing is certain, we move the ball way quicker and definitely playing via the wings.

What was I saying yesterday about RLC? That he aint no DM but a fast sonabitaaach up top. Well, Conte, agrees with me on this as he intends playing him as a striker (or behind one) in the future.


#Let players express themselves.

Nihilist:
LOL I doubt that anyone of us here works in the backrooms for Manyoo. But best believe that the coaches and backroom staff at United watch Rashford play from day 1, and know who is super talented and who is not. They also know who is ready for a 1st team chance and who isnt.

lol. We don't but LvG took a gamble and it worked out for them. It was a gamble. 100%. Why can't we go a step further? Youth Champions 3 years in a row and not a decent player? Chelsea's backroom staff must be on something else. Some agbotikuyo weed or something.

Nihilist:
I don't think we destroyed Kakuta at all. He got his chances...he just did not(or maybe could not) take them. His manager at vitesse is on record castigating him in public for his lack of professionalism. Even the scout who actually discovered him for Lens also pointed out that the boy didn't work hard on the training pitch. Sturridge was from the same set as Kakuta..and was the one who was often played out of position. Look how that worked out.

I don't know how many times you actually watched him play but I did. Right from France, through the youth ranks (for the national team) and I tell you, he was destroyed by this club. He is a beast behind the strikers, a position he played in the youth team but he never got the chance even through the loan system. I watched him at Vitesse etc...he was ALWAYS played out of position. Some players can't fulfill their true potentials out of their comfort zones - don't get me even started on the psychological side of things..anyways Kakuta is an example.
Daniel as we know loves to play upfront, a striker. Send him to the wings and you can see his output drop. Why did he leave Mancity for Chelsea and then to Lpool? To play in his preferred position.
Lukaku for instance is one player who hates coming off the bench. You can see his head and shoulders drop. Ko le perform as expected. Start him and he becomes a goal machine. Its all in the head my friend.

Nihilist:
I don't know about this. The boy himself admits that he is struggling to cope with the rigours of the EPL...which is no surprise given his very limited experience in the EPL and professional football as a whole.

Take time to watch him play. He is one fast sonaofbiatch up top. You'd be like, is this RLC?

Nihilist:
Like I said earlier, Zouma may have made it to the first team or he may not. Regardless, the boy is an exceptional talent. I think that grouping all these talents together under the umbrella of 'youth' rather trivialises the discussion. All fingers are not equal. Ori yato si Ori.

Zouma is easily the most talented young defender at the club right now. You could pick a random CB from the reserves right now, stick him in a time machine, send him back to 2009 and give him the exact same training and experience as Zouma got, and Zouma will likely still be better.

Honestly Ola Aina is good. Confident, fast and strong and can operate efficiently as a RB,CB,LB and even on the wings yet the club won't play him even when it was clear that Iva, was having his 'Swansea Moments' for 6 months. Aina aint no Zouma, but had he (Zouma) joined our youth team, we'd be saying the same thing that he is not yet ready.
Were you all not complaining when Zouma was played as a RB? Compare that to when played as CB. The different is CLEAR!

Give them boys a fair chance.

Nihilist:
The key thing to understand in Rashford's case is that the manager's hand was forced. He was a special talent, but the club weren't playing him because he wasn't ready. In fact, they weren't playing him that much in the reserves. He wasn't ready. All of a sudden a freak combination of injuries and suspensions meant that there was no one else to turn to...and then he took his chance.

That's why I said irrespective of the reason why Rashford was picked (that's history now)...he was GIVEN the chance. This is something Chelsea no dey do. We don't take risks. FFS, sports is sometimes about risks. Many great players past and present won't be talked about if those risks were not taken.

Nihilist:
But look what's happened in their recent transfers.
I think that if you consider how many players we hoover in each year, and factor in how many players are competing for just 11 positions, you will fully appreciate why first team youth have to be exceptional to get that chance. Otherwise they go on loan to gain experience and impress.

The level at which Chelsea competes demands elite talent. We just can't afford to train up babies. That's just the cold hard fact.

There is pressure at EVERY top club and we are no different. Mind I remind you that babies grow but you have to nurture them. Believe in them. No one is asking for a first 11 of "babies". 1 or 2 will be more than enough.

Nihilist:
Its not about quantity. It's about quality.
For instance, if we look at Bayern now, there are only 2 academy products in the first team ( i won't count Hummels because his education and experience came from elsewhere).
Where are Muller and Alaba's academy mates?
The fact is, if you're going to pick any untested youth, their talent has to be undeniable. It's no coincidence that the likes of Miller and Alaba and Lahm or Schweinsteiger would go on to be world class players...

Plus the Bayern reserve system plays professional footy anyway, and this these guys have more professional experience from an early age and thus have the developmental advantage of their age mates in England.

Secondly the loan system also allows us to develop players for sale,so that the ones we deem not good enough can still be sold for good cash.

THAT is one of problems with CFC and its a MASSIVE one. Looking for the WOW factor in a young player forgetting that it ain't always there at the very first time of asking. And even when its there them go still mess up.

For all we know and no one here can categorically say Rashford is SUPER talented until we saw him play. Irrespective of the reasons why he was played credits to LvG and Manure.....heck he could have used a midfielder as a false 9 or whatever.

Secondly, if and when we play them, its usually out of position. e.g Kakuta. He had the WOW factor, he was supposed to be the next BIG star but what did we do with him? Destroyed him.

Take RLC for instance and I stand to be corrected but imo, the boy is more of an AM than a DM, so why play in that position? A position so glaring to see that he is not interested in playing....fast forward 15 secs...you go dey hear " the boy is lazy..."

Traore, Zouma, all making waves now and godddaaaamit (I stand with nateevs here ) would they have made it to the first team assuming they joined Chelsea aged 11?

Musonda is one brilliant player and I'm personally pleased he is on loan again. Why rot in the reserves when you can give and show so much more?

So don't get me wrong, I support the loan system but things should be done systematically + the risks associated in making bold calls.

Sure the pressure is there...its a BIG club. This is the norm but how can we win 3 FA Youth Cups in a row, 2 UEFA Youth Cups back-2-back and we can't find ONE single player? We can't find a couple of Rashfords?

Get well soon Demba.

And not a single picture, image or some sort of visuals?

Bigger issue, though is when and will the government do something for the community? How busy or concerned is the chairman of that LGA?

Can Conte get this team ready in 4 weeks? Plus we are playing the likes of Lpool, Real and AC Milan before facing West Ham.
4 weeks? Hmmm

So Conte failed his very first 'test'? 2-0?

We are watching.

nateevs:
Kante can smell the future. Sacrificing short terms losses for long terms gains.
The dude is a midfielder even in real life.

LOL.
Thanks bro. Surely you know he is my kinda player. Just trying to figure out his ambitions. Dazzall.

Rapid 1- 0 CFC

Half time

Kolade354:
Shey leicester wan win Ucl ni

They are playing in the UCL this season and we are not.

chrisley024:
One season UCL

Why? CFC and a couple of other bigger teams were after him, so why us? Conte or?

Nihilist:
kudi cash ego

He had an extremely improved offer from LFC and he is like a boss in the team. Why Chelsea?

Kante is here. Can't help but wonder why he is not interested in UCL for this season?

Nice. Lovely.

No disrespect to them lawyers, but whats with them wigs though? isnt it time to get rid of them?

faruz:
The God-Father.

of? To?

So what now, Conte the "Tailor" abi The "Worker" or the Passionate One?

I'm definitely pro Kante (heck the very first to sing his name on here) but really, shouldn't we just allow the guy enjoy UCL football?

Diawara aint bad, right?

HOLY is Thy Name o Lord!

raumdeuter:
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Really nice.
Are you airmark?

This Portuguese left back ain't bad at all. Lots of energy to burn.
Haha. France go resume their strike sharpish....

raumdeuter:
A world cup title with that performance in the final beats everything in football

Yeah. We love the gifs though.
airmark.. Please supply the necessary.

Edeeeer. Say what. France are in BIG trouble. Can they rescue this?

raumdeuter:
You can also follow it with the picture of Boatank lifting a world cup which Terry would never win in 3 generations

plus the epic fall in the box.

raumdeuter:
Yes o doing Boateng things like leading his team to a semi final after semi final beasting world cup final after CL final while John Terry at his best could not even play at that level

yup, you right. Airmark, abeg wey that wave it like you don't care gif again?

airmark:
Raumdeuter let me give you tips . Thank me later

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Boateng is just doing is thing. He had to disgrace himself. Falling stupidly and now waving his hands in the box like he just does not care. I'd say normal stuff.

I guess ONLY in Nigeria. Where did he get the money from? From Tax payers' or some sort of private fund?

airmark:
Why not stake 10k if you were sure of your tips. Meanwhile this is chelsea thread take it to bayern munich thread , dayo and a4o will buy it. Just write boateng is the world best defender at the end of your comment.

. And Add some "gifs" for full effect.

raumdeuter:
Did the EPL filled England even play the quarter final? Person wey lose to Iceland dey laugh person wey lose to France

I wouldnt deny my team and my league unlike some cowards here who started "I support EPL I dont support England" some even claimed they supported Peru and Tahiti just because they are ashamed of the EPL dominated England

You know, you are right again. We can support England, Russia or Republic of Benin but f.ck that, who cares?
I can't remember anyone on here mentioning the German team, emphasis was on Boateng who was disgraced by Giroud - the SLOWEST player on the pitch. So what's that to do with the English team? Or is Boateng English too? Lol.
You can shift the post all you want but definitely not with me. Try harder.

Nihilist:
Ronaldo has a good chance against these French. They should play him on the right Flank let him target Evra again.

Dayo how do you like this stat. Of the 22 players likely to be on the pitch on Sunday, the EPL would have produced more players than any other league....it could be as high as 60% EPL current or past players.

Can you tell me how many Bundesliga players are likely to be on the pitch?

That's right....NONE.

Goodnight uncle.

Wait till he tells you about Sanchez

raumdeuter:
So it was Italy that knocked them out? I was thinking it was France. How come Germany didnt get knocked out by Italy then?

I presume Germany are playing in the final, no?

raumdeuter:
Scenario wey Germany conceded their only goal from open play after Boatank left the field

Yes, that's very true. Remind me please who was dancing "put your hands in air, put your hands in the air" against Italy?