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^^^ it was for that same reason the belgium national coach benched him. the boy just no dey defend. that left hand side was just like a basket.

but i'm sure he will learn...just watch.

Also, why do we like to concede so early in matches. na super eagles them be?

can't fault the players today especially after the comeback. ref just decided to dabaru the game. shame.

anyways, we meet manshyte again in a few days time.

the ref just ruined what was shaping out to be a nice game. f.ck the ref.

KDULAR: British refs are just a pathetic lot. Why I find it hard to appreciate that club Man U. typical English just cheating their way through Sho , kelebe tue!!

+1

er, i usually don't say this, but i will repeat it again, mark claternberg is a bastkard! omo ale jati jati.

mukina2: sorry i feel ya pain

pain ke? na who be this?

kai. me i for just walk off the pitch. i can't stand such refs. easily.

no qualms if we lose this one. clatternberg did what he was paid to do.
f.cuk the ref 100000000 times. MARK is an as.s hol.e

mark clattenberg is a BAST.kaRD! yes I said it.

no card for rooney? The f.ck why not?

well well well, what do you know? comedy at the very best.
That was a Yellow for Evans NOT Torres!
F.ck this ref

RED CARD! Seriously? oh oh

Very well, I say we score now and well, close up the game.

it aint over

Just what the doctor prescribed. let's go there.

RdM needs to change something here.

[quote author=Donalð Genes]You dey give yourself hopeless hope! No come qet fever[/quote]who is this?

nateevs: We get a goal and we are still in it. A win is still very much possible.

precisely my point. We need a goal ASAP

meanwhile, is ashley on holidays?

if Chelsea no score for this first half, a comeback will be very hard. I just hope that I'm wrong.

them boys are sleeping. hazard -2

wonder when RdM and them boys will fix this annoying trend...conceding very early in matches. What's up with that?

usbcable: am not blaming essien.

its just unthinkable that you can loose three left full backs(marcelo/coentrao/arbeloa) all at once. reminds me of the when chelsea lost two goalie in a single match.

essien could not have been worse. hope fully coentrao should be back and fit by then.

Essien didn't play that bad but I do agree that losing 3 full backs at the same time is disastrous.

1025: uncle, when u go to a salon to barb ur hair and the barber asks u which style? if you say do it the same way u do paul's, did u first ask if ur skull and that of paul are the same? personally, i hate to hear a team say, we are playing like barcelona. are u barcelona? why can't u play like chelsea, man u or arsenal? be urself as long as u maintain the rules of the games. u don't need to do things to please enemies who speak from both sides of their bodies. we had a winning formula and nobody changes a winning team. something that has been working for us. if we continue been successful with our style of play, nobody will tell these ppl to start playing like us and by so doing doing, u must have activated a brand name for urself and those who want to be as successful as u are.
on a more serious note, barca without plan B proves to be easier to stop these days apart from the refs playing for them. try and watch their last game against servila. 2 goals down before fabregas introduced a basketball skill into football. before fabregas started a bosquet trade mark which reduced servila to 10 men before barca got the space they needed. with the new face of chelsea, the only time i relax while watching chelsea these days is when our opponents are 3 goals down because at 2 goals down, juve had a say. the former chelsea will drain u of any form of water at 1 -0 talk less of 2. like i said, we need more steels in the team than we have now. at a point, barca wanted steel hence they mascherano and song involvements.

Thank you. Folks should stick to what works for them and not trying to be like barca. That statement alone just pisses me off. wtf!
Some folks (especially nateevs) want us to believe that tippy tappy (and of course FFP ) is what football is all about. What rubbish.

nateevs: Again! Totally wrong. Tippy tappy wins games. Fact! Ask Barca. Ask Borrusia Dortmund.

Seriously I don't mean to be rude (anyways, you know I'm not) but I'd thought that the most basic requirement in football is to kick it and score. You just don't seem to grasp this aspect.
Before tippy tappy, there were GOALS. I repeat and most will agree with me IT IS GOALS that win you matches. Not the style of play. Your style of play is the instrument used and NOT THE RESULT.
If tippy tappy wins you games how come Barca won nada last season. Why don't they win every match? WTF are you on?

nateevs: Now this is a different point of argument entirely. "Tippy tappy takes time to master" is completely different from "tippy tappy does not win games". You argument lacks cohesion and constructive balance. You are trying to make two different things look like the same whilst arguing only on one side.

Let me give it another try. I'm not against tippy tappy and it can be employed provided you have near total understanding and chemistry among your players. That said, I don't see it as the "in" thing in football. I don't buy it. Heck even Stoke show some flair sometimes but that is not what I'm not about. RESULT is what I'm on about. I'm a thoroughly result oriented individual and I play by the rules. Bottom line is this -SUBSTANCE OVER STYLE = FBS! kapish?

nateevs: Stop mixing two things up. It's harder to master tippy tappy. I quite agree. However, it's folly to attempt to create an argument that suggests that because it is hard to master, it does not win games. In fact, that is the third point you've brought into the argument whilst arguing the same thing.

Again, what I said is this: TIPPY TAPPY NO DEY WIN GAMES IF you don't convert those chances is different from it is hard to master. Yes it takes time but I made it a point saying, I don't expect us to play that style.
I asked you question: What won us UCL last season? again amigo, RESULT!

nateevs: Fa fa fa fowl!!!!. No one plays route one better than Stoke. What have they won? How has it worked out for them?I really love when you glue so much confidence to an empirically-flawed fact and attempt to make it look like a scientifically-backed evidence when in-fact it's all a load of codswallop.

All these your megedefegede trying to look smart is useless. Totally uncalled for. If only you will learn to read or may I don't understand what football is all about. Read again: I'm of the school of thought that football matches should be approached as per opposition (while still maintaining your "style" - whatever that is) because sometimes, you can't just force or impose your style on the opposition. Ask any top manager, they will tell you so. You know crap about this game.

nateevs: "In most cases" . . What percentage? Give facts and figures. Some guys will not roll away and accept flawed logic all because of a hunch.

lol. Just read above. You know zero about this game. Percentage of what? I'm tired of asking the same question.

nateevs: Nope! Hundreds of millions of pounds did. Never exclude that from any argument you make. Millions won the league after 50 years not a perceived "football style"

This is why I said it is useless to argue or point things out for you. RM Madrid spent loads of money under Pellegrini (maybe only Citeh spent more) and won, yes you guessed right ZERO. Even got smacked out by a "league one" side.
Millions don't win you trophies. All ingredients should be in place. Players, managers, dressing chemistry, management and money. If you don't know, then go read football 101 by FBS.
How much Inter spend prior to their double? Were they the highest spending team then? they even beat Barca aka tippy tappy en route to lifing the UCL. So Mr empirically gigbbi jabba what are you talking about?
For the record We had a defined style of play - FINISH OFF THE OPPONENT and SHUT Up SHOP- . One of the best squad Chelsea ever had.
PSG spent massively last season - how many trophies them win? PSG were in first place when Lotti came in, brought in players and still won ZERO! So again, money ain't everything in football. No be mathematics o.

nateevs: You probably were not watching the league in this season. Go check the stats dude. Tippy tappy won the league. Scored the most goals ever in a single league. Go and review the season. Most especially the games against Aston Villa, Stoke and Wigan. (7-1, 7-0 and 8-1) I hope I got the scores right. We attempted to pass the ball out everytime. No route one dude.

Can't remember missing a single game.
So we were actually playing tippy tappy? seriously? because we scored 7 goals? This must be a joke. At any rate you only confirmed what I said earlier - GOALS WIN YOU GAMES. How you do it is a different thing.

nateevs: You are the one arguing against yourself. No one says other styles don't win games. We are just saying you are wrong saying tippy tappy does not win games. Shey you get the discussu=ion at all?

no sir. . kindly explain.

nateevs: Dude! Get you argument right. Proponents of tippy tappy are not preachers of non-scoring teams. I have no idea where you got this idea that "tippy tappy" = "you won't score" . Who invented this crap?

answer yourself. does tippy tappy = you will score? Who invented this shyte?

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nateevs: Substance over style. Who says substance always wins over style. Where are the facts? Who's collated them? Arsenal is not the only club in the world playing "tippy tappy", so why are we conveniently excluding the others? Sebi you watched Spain on in 3 consecutive tournaments?

How many clubs in the world play tippy tappy. Heck what is tippy tappy?
Spain? before that, how many trophies them get. They were perennial Q/finalists (I stand to be corrected). As said before, just because "tippy tappy" is in vogue does not mean everyone should buy it. heck, it is not the gospel for crying out loud.

nateevs: Why bring up Arsenal every time tippy tappy is mentioned. It's like saying tippy tappy ain't worth it because Wigan don't win jack. Heck West Ham play route-one, they ain't gon' win sh1t.

you are the only one arguing against yourself. TIPPY TAPPY no dey win games neither does one route. GOALS does. You use what's best for you. This is too basic enough for anyone to understand.

nateevs: Tippy tappy wins games! Fact! Ask Barca - 13 trophies in just over 3 years. Beat that.

last season nko? it was so bad their coach even left. Let's just say he was riding the "wave"
If tippy tappy wins games, them Barca should be winning every single match because according to you Mr know-it-all it is a given. WHat a load of utter rubbish.

And you haven't dealt with nada. Infact I'm not even sure I understand what you are saying. or maybe we understand football differently, either way I don write too much sef. wtf.

so the russians will be compensated for doing absolutely NOTHING?

Johnpaul88: Jack - of -all trade Essien will be there for you guys. Or was it not the reason he was signed in the first place?
So much for versatility! Who 's deceiving who ?

was he to blame for any of the goals conceded? imo he played his part.

dortmund played some nice football yesterday but I have no doubt that Real will beat them on home ground. Yes, I said it.

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]The Words In Bold got u sounding Like Ibime Seriously

Lemma Go LOGICAL a Bit. . .

Scoring is what matters just as u rightly said but then are u gonna find the Scoring easy if u have ya team glued to a Solid and Brutal style of Play? Definitely NOPE!

A Team that Plays with Flair and Character Scores Easily and with Fun, just what u saw at the Weekend against Spurs.

Seriously, i cant imagine us whining down into retrospect to play the Makelele - Geremi - Essien - Lampard packed Midfield again, the philosophy costed us in the latter years of the Jose's era -- We found Scoring Hard, cos the flair has been Lost!

Although Gaffers like Phil and Carlo lost their Jobs trying to inculcate the Tippy tappy Footie, the real Point was that we never had the right players then to do it Perfect -- Deco was Only about Retiring, Quaresma came on Loan thoroughly a Pant![/color]

son, let me tell something to you ..
individual brilliance + team effort won us the game against spurs so don't go logical here -it was not tippy tappy. drop it. abi se cahill's goal was tippy tappy?
I've not nothing against tippy tappy but why do you want Chelsea to be like barca? the heck why?
People still refer to the JM team cos of the solidity, resilience and ability to get what we want irrespective of opposition. The approach was important.
To play tipsytappy footie, you just need crazy understanding among the players...our boys are just perfecting this but I still don't expect us to play tippytap all the time.
We need to win games and gradually everything will flow.
And for the record, those who know FBS know that there is only one FBS. won pe meji.

nateevs: Tippy tappy wins games. Ask Barcelona. Tippy tappy wins games. Ask Borrusia Dortmund. It's unfair to keep asking proponents of tippy tappy football to ask Arsenal. The fact that Chelsea have won trophies over the last 10 years is a result of sh1t loads of mega spending - way over the billion mark - in assembling the best players in the world and not only because "we were finishing and Arsenal were not" or that we managed to find a method of playing football with meagre resources that supersedes tippy tappy.

The thing with Arsenal is that they are doing it the wrong way. You can teach tippy tappy in the academy up to first team. What you cannot teach is goal-scoring. It's an inherent ability in footballers and only a few have it. Therefore, like they had in Van Persie, they should always look for top strikers and try to spend big on them.

People should desist from labelling Arsenal's inconsistent finishing "a consequence of tippy tappy". It is not. [b]Arsenal are not going to score more goals or "finish well" than they do now if they stopped tippy tappy this very minute.[/b]That's where this point of view evaporates. If anything, they will score less.

Tippy tappy wins games - fact! Ask Barca. They just did what Arsenal did not do. They spent over 65m Euros in a deal involving Ibrahimovic and Eto'o. They've spent 40m Euros since then in the acquisition of Villa.

I repeat that tippy tappy DOES NOT WIN GAMES! It is the GOALS! How you get them is a different question entirely.
My point is this, you approach each game differently. Playing tippy tappy takes some time and your ALL players needs NEAR PERFECT understanding and football chemistry and this is something we don't have yet. You approach each game as per needed.
In most cases, route one works BEST.
na tippy tappy win you EPL after 50 something odd years?
na tippy tappy win us the Double few seasons back?
se na tippy tappy we take win UCL and FA?
We are what we are today not because of tippy tappy or do you disagree with that? I will take substance over style. ANYDAY ANYTIME!
if you aint scoring goals amigo, you will end up like l'ars/e. FACT!

As a matter of fact, Ronaldo's goal against dortmund was route one. smash and grab. so what are you talking about?

dayo is officially loco. keep them coming man.

Now I seriously hope that whoever is in charge maintains it. Way to go.

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]FBS Bro, You'll agree with me that what u voiced up there is not a Fact.

Am Of the School of thought that tippy tappy win Games only if Blended with the Perfect Character, Arseanal for some years now haven't been able to parade players that exhume such characters, their Philosophy have strictly been centered on Youth Development and not the Big shots. In Stark Contrast, Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid and most notable successful clubs who play the tippy tappy footie achieved their Glories cos they had the Right players.

U Know something about this Tippy tappy thing? It makes U unpredictable, therefore LETHAL! -- Something we once enjoyed during the Mourinho's team of 2004/05.

Don't mistake this as my Very Predilection, its just what i know as the Fact! [/color]

El Guapo, I tell you, what, you can play all the tippy tappy all you want but if you don't score you ain't going no where. NOW THAT IS A FACT!
And I completely disagree that tippy-tappy = unpredictability. Partially but not necessarily.
Under JM we were, I dare say clinical and simply shut up shops as per when needed. Solid and brutal and LETHAL if you know what I mean. That's how I like my football.
Teams can exhibit some tippy-tappy once in a while to give the fans and viewers some things to cheer and awww about but overall, SCORING is what matters.
Give me that and I'm satisfied.