₦airaland Forum

meum:
If you truly voted for him be proud of your choice the same way others are of their choices. Forget who the elites from your candidates tribe supported.

It’s like you never understand Nigeria. Elites gravitate towards where their interests will be protected. Dem no send. If the person they supported to eventually get there(elected or selected) refuses to patronize them they’ll start singing & play the victim card. That is 9ja😂 Some have started dropping singles 🎤 😂

Like you care pass yourself

GeneralPula:
E no clear to me oo..

Their matter get as e be..

Their is structure in politics... Which structure do they have for national politics... E get how things are being done ooo .. even pdp has more agents than APC sef.... This LP people are jokers and their followers

GeneralPula:
You still don’t get it. You’re advocating for a wrong thing. Instead, ensure your party agents secured the original copies of manual collated result from poling unit. This is the only thing the law recognized. And no, no court will compel inec to do things like this or that..

You obviously don’t know how easy it is to manipulate things online. If it’s by IREV, forget it it’s the easiest to manipulate. Hackers are in existence. Plenty of them. You’ll see different results in circulation and you’ll be shocked yourself..

How will a party not have their own Result... We saw the situation room for APc and PDP ... LP no get ni

LegendHero:
What will uploading result from polling booth on Irev Portal solve? Let’s talk about magnitude in percentage.

Uploading result from polling booth won’t stop rigging. Infact, if irev result alone is declared as the source of truth, it will only lead to chaos and e-rigging.

1. Usually, rigging occurs in rural areas which are away from the eyes of media. You can bribe other party agents or threaten them and they upload doctored result on irev and that’s all.

2. Hackers can easily jam INEC network and then upload their own version of signed results.

3. If you mean to say both paper result given to party agents and irev portal should be used as source of truth, then what happens when an official is unable to upload result due to bad network is so remote area on time? Will they disenfranchise the people and cancel their votes because of that?

4. Peter Obi lawyers are deceivers. When Tinubu was up against PDP back then at the tribunal, he did not depend on INEC alone to prove his case for those ACN governors, but rather he went to bring independent forensic investigators to show that the number of time it takes to thumbprint some of the ballots is 5sec which is against the natural 5-15 min.

5. Now let’s even say INEC don’t like Obi. Then why can’t Obi ask his party agents to bring the result sheet they have, then look for some of the result on Irev and then compare them. If there is massive scale rigging, there is no way in hell where over 50% of the result on Irev will tally with the agent result sheet. So why did he present blank sheet when he can present actual Irev result that shows and use it as his evidence? Except if you are telling me the only result on Irev are blank.

Lastly, Obi is a sore loser. He cannot use back door to claim legitimacy of the federal republic president. That seat is bigger than him. He is a loser and DID NOT WIN ANY ELECTION.

They don't have enough agents... The preparation was just not enough... Something they were supposed to have been doing for like three years they just wanted to pull it all of a sudden... Awon arindin... Naso e easy ...

festacman:
The fact is that Judiciary's treatment of presidential election petitions over the years has always been about avoiding political crises rather than giving justice to petitioners. From Obasanjo, Yar'adua, Buhari and now Tinubu, the worry facing the judges has always been the likely effect of judgement on political stability of Nigeria. Of course, financial inducement or any other interferences may not be ruled out but the mindset of judges is that all politicians are the same and none is worth sacrificing the stability of the country for. Interestingly, in spite of favourable PEPT and Supreme Court rulings in 2014, late Umaru Yar'adua accepted that the election that brought him to office was not free and fair and consequently appointed Uwais committee to suggest ways of strengthening electoral process.

For example in Tinubu's case, outright cancellation wouldn't have solved any problem because:
- The acting president who would have overseen new election is Senate President Godswill Akpabio who is dependable Tinubu's ally.
- The same INEC team that organized the cancelled election would have organized the new election and even in the situation that another INEC chairman is required, Akpabio would still have power to appoint.
- The IG of police who would have overseen the security during the elections would have been a Tinubu boy with 100% loyalty
- Same for security chiefs who would have done everything possible to retain their offices as Tinubu losing means loss of job for them.
In other word, ordering a new election wouldn't actually solved problem except create political crises apart from heavy financial burden on the treasury.

This is why It is important to make uploading results from polling booths mandatory part of the INEC's transmission of results to the collation centre. Otherwise, the current "go to court" shenanigans will continue.

You over stupid gan

Debater:
I don't understand why systemic hatred against the SE is in some people's blood...
If you truly hate someone, you should try as much as possible to ignore them.
Leave the SE alone. They don't hate you, but you do...

Dem too dey spoil Nigeria name abroad

Shattuck:
that is why I say it depends on the settings in the western world I think money is more powerful because there are checks and balances to power and there is the rule of law, put In maybe some African nations and other autocratic nations,then power comes first because automatically the wealth of the nation is your's, but in the global community money comes first wike dey form king for Rivers if him enter Benin republic he can't influence anything there, if the Ghanian president should come to Nigeria he can't command anything here, but you see money if dangote wants to make shit happens in Ghana, he can to some extent. That's the power of money it's power is universal, power is restricted to your community or political territory.

Make Dangote go us make shit happens... Very funny ... Even Elon musk can't do anyhow for US the government go nail am... What are you saying ... See what UK did to Abrahimovic na... Na power ... Them no even let am enter England sef ... Before he was even forced to sell his club... Power pass money ooo... Make Dangote go even Egypt or south Africa go move shit not talk bigger economies like US Germany And the rest... Even Nigeria here Dangote can't do anyhow to federal government

Caaz:
Nigeria the most corrupt country in the world.


First to commetus!

Na for America them kill Lloyd that time ooo...

Shattuck:
dangote and Biden no be mate nah. But money is powerful Sha.

Dangote fit pursue presidency for 20 years make he no get am... You can be President of a country for that long without have at least $10b ...

Shattuck:
dangote and Biden no be mate nah. But money is powerful Sha.

Power makes money faster than money get power faster... Na why Atiku with him money no fit be president just like that or Dangote with him money go still dey bend for every President... Power madt ooo... Why Dangote dey bend na cus he doesn't want his business to have problems .. else he will be destroyed and another go over throw am

Maxxim:
Okay, let's assume every human is opportune to choose their fate either to be a local government chairman who controls his cda and a Multi billionaire like Bill gates I'm sure you'll definitely choose the earlier right

Oga we go tey for here😁

Person wey get 1k for account sef get money too.... Everything get level... I will rather choose to be the president of a nation than be the richest in that nation.... I will command more with that power and the billionaire will be under me... I did rather be a Joe Biden than Elon musk

Maxxim:
Dey play Bill gates has almost bought all the land in us now, wetin e dey take buy am?
Abi if em give opinion people no go follow abi

Sebi na power Elon take but Twitter and dey control it's users

Make he get issue with power first na .. see as Nigeria ban same twitter ... Facebook no dey china... Na power be that... They can only control their businesses... If them mess things up power will crush them ASAP... See Jack Ma from China ... Abrahimovic wey them purse from Chelsea... Power pass money abeg... This wealthy guys always want to lobby with people in power for protection... They know they are nothing without people in power ..

iammo:



Good news


Oya SouthEast you have no excuse now

SouthEast is a Tiny region, the Size of Oyo State and Niger State...

They can construct a rail serving South East within 3 years


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They can't... Their agidi too much even among themselves

igwebuike01:
FG is a big joke. Na so Tinubu go de shift responsibility? You take the resources from the state and share them peanuts but shift huge responsibility to them, are you kidding me? Even other resources that are not being explored are abandoned to illegal miners because you tied the hands of states. How dare you give them such big responsibility? Any serious state will focus on interconnecting all nooks and crannies the with good road from whatever peanut Abuja is willing to give them

Your head empty no be small

Leggodeals:
Tomorrow you people will start crying that your country is gone. Now we are telling someone to do the right thing. Return all he has stolen and clear his conscience. It's not enough to just stop stealing. He has to put what he has removed back else that guilt would not go. And as long as that guilt remains, it's just a matter of time before he resumes stealing again.

Guilt is an evil thing in the conscience that makes people sin more and more.
The guilty heart contrary to what many people think does not stop you from doing crime, it fuels evil like mad. The guilty heart keeps saying, go do it again and ask God for forgiveness. OK, go do it again and ask for mercy. An unending cycle of sin. Until he is caught and disgraced

Na politicians them Sabi abuse

Ozommadu:
Propaganda upon Propaganda while the people suffer.

Also recruited too many jobless empty touts on nairaland for defending job

Pepper

Maxxim:
Alaye farabale

Your question should be what's the difference between money and power

Let's give example of it's influence
Your pastor lords over you because he has control over you mind, the lastma man dragging you irrespective of your money has power over you cause he's been backed by a powerful constitution.
But that doesn't mean money can't over take power or the constitution.

For example you can payoff your pastor to influence his followers in a certain way, and the lastma dude even at some point your vehicle can be released after paying some hiked fee
A rich man can buy a country PR by investing some substantial amount.
And never to forget how Mansa Musa used his wealth to destabilize Egypt then.
So it's reasonable to choose money, you can always learn power

He has power to amass that wealth ... What business was he doing to have that wealth... He was a ruler to have such wealth... Same with Solomon ... It was power

Maxxim:
Alaye farabale

Your question should be what's the difference between money and power

Let's give example of it's influence
Your pastor lords over you because he has control over you mind, the lastma man dragging you irrespective of your money has power over you cause he's been backed by a powerful constitution.
But that doesn't mean money can't over take power or the constitution.

For example you can payoff your pastor to influence his followers in a certain way, and the lastma dude even at some point your vehicle can be released after paying some hiked fee
A rich man can buy a country PR by investing some substantial amount.
And never to forget how Mansa Musa used his wealth to destabilize Egypt then.
So it's reasonable to choose money anyway you can always learn power

Manza musa next time won't be allowed to come again with the government power ... And also musa was a powerful man .. how did he get his wealth

Fiscus105:
If u reason properly you will know u re talking like foolish teenager

where did he get power as opposition leader? Is it not because of enomours money in his disposal? You guys just too myopic in reasoning, when u focus in one way, it takes grace for u to think in other perspective.



Did u think Tinubu started fighting people in power from 1999 (democracy)?

Where did Tinubu got power to fight Abacha? Had he become governor then?

Perhaps ur age doesn't make you aware that Tinubu fought Abacha and almost brought him to his knee.

You need power to make money

AndrewTate:
he used money and power to get more power stop saying bullshit Tinubu has been a very powerful man before presidency or you want to say Atiku can't afford that kind of money??
Reason properly before you talk.

Very powerful

CuriousX:
No it cant. Money could not buy Abiola power

Even Atiku a former VP understand this better

Hawkler:
With your money power will subdue you hands down...Gabon, Niger Junta's.

Lol

Flier:
Let me leave you with your understand of things around you,but i must telling you majority of those old powerful people living in Mansions are actually very broke and this is why african people steal while still in service
Majority of those people are being taking care of by their children

People that government still pays ... What are you even saying ... Till they die... Did you see babangida ... Gowon OBASANJO do they look poor to you ... Abacha children still balling ... See this man ooo

Fryx:
Do you know what is most powerful on earth? “ The Word and The Will Of Man”

A man with a good use of word can sway people and make them do his will. The ability to make others do your will is the highest level of power.

Now, tell me if you need money for that.

With Words, backed with action - you can make people trust and look up to you. When people look up to you and trust you, they will willingly put you in a position of power.

With a good use of words and marketing gimmicks, you can sell any product - which equals money.

Power gotten through the will of the people is real power, and it will be very hard to lose it. Likewise money gotten legitimately.

If you buy power, you will lose it fast because money has limit. If you make money illegally also, you will lose it fast cause people can’t be fooled forever.

Even money needs power to be made

elipheleh:
Do you know there is a kind of money you will pay the US president, the US army will fight any government for you?

Bible rightly said

Money answereth all things

NOT Power.

With your power, I can use my money to bribe your own cabinet members to even assassinate you and crown me king.

With money I can bribe the whole Nigerians both young and old, 10 million naira each and I swear, every body will vote for me.

If I loose votes in the whole Nigeria, it won't reach 30 people sef

They will collect your money and do nothing and you will do nothing... Them sef need that power... Dey play

Shattuck:
but how do you get power most of the times it's still through money, folks will talk about tinubu but he got power through money , money is more powerful because also it is a universal power, while power itself is limited, money has no territorial boundry, you can be powerful in your community but outside can you influence anything a wealthy guy in India or Nigeria can influence stuff in Europe,Asia, america anywhere, money makes the world go round.

Make Dangote get issues with Joe Biden you sef go suffer am

Maxxim:
Lol dey play what's the significance of having power with 0kobo in your account, money actually buys people and with that you already have power over them

Assassin will rather accept to kill Dangote than kill Tinubu

dvkot:
Money is subject to power but power is not subject to money.
Power is always greater

Simple

grandstar:
Power is definitely more powerful.

This can be gleaned from events in China and Russia.

In China, Chinese billionaires will be put into line if they fall out with the Communist party.

Jack Ma, founder of Alibaba.com, disappeared for sometime when he criticized the Communist party, despite being worth over $20bn.

Russia the same. Russian Oligarchs, billionaires who became fantastically wealthy by buying up Russian staye own companies dirt cheap are clearly under Putins thumb and will deal mercilessly with any of them who step out of line.

There's the famous case of Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky. He was the richest man in Russia.

He stupidly made the mistake of speaking truth to power. Putin wondered who he was considering he made his money through the system he was now condemning.

Putin stripped him of many of the assets he owned by making false claims his company owed rhe state billions in taxes. Unable to pay these debts, his company assets were seized.

It did not end at that. The man was sent to prison and probably spent up to 10 years there. Upon his release, he fled overseas.

Putin used him to set an example to any Oligarch who fell foul of him.

See what US did to huawei sef... Power is crazy ... You have money you no seek power dey play ooo

Flier:
Majority of retired politians,police and soldiers,top civil servants,even the man who designed the Nigerian flag are broke but still powerful enough to give you letter to get contract or job
That is what they call power,it never dies even if you are broke

Designing Nigeria flag na power.... Hear your sef ...
Top office holder can never go broke... Even after they left ... They can still even mess you with your money ... Power no be child's play ooo... See Abrahimvic see Jack Ma.. don't try power ooo .. broke with power as how... Na the person wan broke ooo

Flier:
You are wrong,lot of powerful politicians are broke,they can use their power to give you a letter to get 1 billion naira contract even though they are broke
some of them are even collecting money to get people job

Give me one person with power who is broke ...
Ordinary lasma will mess man with money .. oga with him money go beg am ..

olaztek:
Dangote with his money is very powerful. He can use his money to influence matters in the national assembly. He can bankroll a political opponent to overcome tinubu in next election.
He can sponsor rebels, terrorist and protesters to destroy the political gain of the president.
Even the big US govt is controlled by few super rich individuals.

He is looking for power na why ... He needs their protection if you know