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Isaiah 56:3-5

3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the Lord, speak, saying, The Lord hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.

4 For thus saith the Lord unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;

5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant

Also verse 7 and 8 but to lazy to go look for it.

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I Had a match who apparently is my '3rd to distant' cousin. What does that mean?

kwametut:
Bantus okes have the biggest dicks. Congo Brazza and Congo Kinshasa TOP THE WORLD IN PENIS SIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Naaigayrians were explosed by SA PSL players who confirmed that Naaigayrian chaps have normal dick sizes.....some have smaller dicks compared to Congolese,Zimbos,Angolans,Mozambiquens and SA Limpopo chaps.

So Asians do have small peníses! Small eyes, Small Peníses. What's next Asians? Small boobs?

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bigfrancis21:
Quick question, are you male or female?

Male

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tevinsolt:
yes really.

I actually agree with the other guy, Science may get most of the things right, but sometimes there wrong. Scientist don't even claim that science is always right, all they will tell you is that Science changes every day with every new discovery they find that sometimes debunks one of there theories, or supports one of there theories. If science is always right then why does it keep changing?

AkanIgbo:
Actually the Dogon didn't start from scratch either. They said that ET's visited the Earth and gave them their knowledge of the Solar system. That might sound crazy, but you can't rule that out; because the Dogon know about planets in solar system that can not be seen with the naked eye and the Dogon didn't have telescopes. However, it is pretty clear that the Dogon are priests from Egypt that were kicked out during the time of Pharaoh. The Dogon have acknowledge that much and anthropologist and Egyptologist point that out as well.

Well, if the dogon are actually Egyptains then that explains the smartness, since I'm pretty sure the Egyptains are the same people who created mathematics until the Europeans came and claimed it as there own.

AkanIgbo:
I also have Middle Eastern, European and Polynesian results, but except for the European number 12% none of them are very high. Most the European numbers are English, Ireland, Scandinavia and Iberian Peninsula; which is what most African Americans have.

Looking at your results I am almost positive that the Bantu are related to the Igbo, because every time I see an Igbo result I see a Bantu result. Those two groups have to be related somewhere, because otherwise it doesn't make sense that these two groups appearing together. Here is a blog that touches on the results of 3 Nigerians. Presumably Ancestry.com only tested Bamoun and Bamileke people in Cameroon, both groups of which are Bantu. Bamileke people share other groupings too.

https://tracingafricanroots./ancestrydna/african-results/

Have Scandinavia, ancient Scandinavia, I actually have atleast three ancient DNA according to Gedmatch mines are Ancient (Paleo) Scandinavia, Ancient (Paleo) African, and Ancient (Paleo) Siberian.

On one test I have 0.46% European. And on another 5% European. Igbo and Bantu are possibly related but I'll have to look into that more. I'll Check out that link.

AkanIgbo:
I listed my results in the post above this one.

A couple things that I have noticed about autosomal dna is that it tells a story. The story that I noticed is that almost all West African people are from Egypt and the Sudan, because the gene flow seems to be going west and south from that area. I even have dna matches in the Middle East, which may stem from Yoruba people. It is hard to tell without getting the matrilineal and patrilineal dna testing done.

After getting the Gedmatch results I started researching the different people. Some of the stuff is just crazy. Many Pharaohs in Egypt were Bantu. The Kaba people or Sara people in Chad were chased out of Egypt by the Arabs. On some websites it looks like Sara means sons of Ra, which I think is the religion that was practiced in Egypt during the time of the Pharaohs. And the Dogon of Mali are just incredible. The Dogon are causing a lot of problems for the USA space agency NASA, because the Dogon apparently are experts in astrology and for thousands of years they have apparently known about planets and stars in the galaxy that the Western world has just learned about in the last few decades. The Dogon apparently knew about the human circulatory system long before it was known by anyone else and that the universe is a strand like human dna. Incredible.

About that Dogon part, yeah I heard about something like that but it was actually the theory that the ancient people were probably more advanced then we were. Even if it's most likely not true, it holds some truth. Like are modern scientist just use what the ancients people know just to learn more things, the modern scientist did not have to start out from scratch, but the ancient people did have to start out from scratch, because there was no other people before them. The ancient people figured out how to write on there own while the modern day people just made it look more advanced.

AkanIgbo:
I listed my results in the post above this one.

A couple things that I have noticed about autosomal dna is that it tells a story. The story that I noticed is that almost all West African people are from Egypt and the Sudan, because the gene flow seems to be going west and south from that area. I even have dna matches in the Middle East, which may stem from Yoruba people. It is hard to tell without getting the matrilineal and patrilineal dna testing done.

After getting the Gedmatch results I started researching the different people. Some of the stuff is just crazy. Many Pharaohs in Egypt were Bantu. The Kaba people or Sara people in Chad were chased out of Egypt by the Arabs. On some websites it looks like Sara means sons of Ra, which I think is the religion that was practiced in Egypt during the time of the Pharaohs. And the Dogon of Mali are just incredible. The Dogon are causing a lot of problems for the USA space agency NASA, because the Dogon apparently are experts in astrology and for thousands of years they have apparently known about planets and stars in the galaxy that the Western world has just learned about in the last few decades. The Dogon apparently knew about the human circulatory system long before it was known by anyone else and that the universe is a strand like human dna. Incredible.

Yes, also I heard that your highest percentage of DNA (like 70%, 80%, 90%) traces back to your main family while your lowest percentages (like 1.2%, 2.2%, 3.5%) traces back to your beginning. Like for instances, if your 3% Asian but your 97% West African, it's most likely that your original ancestors were actually Asians who just traveled all the way to west Africa and settled down there and mixed with the west African tribes. I don't know if that's true buts it's an interesting theory.

AkanIgbo:
I am an African American and I got some really interesting results between Ancestry.com and the Gedmatch calculators too. Ancesty.com just uses a bunch of countries where they found most of your DNA exists. Gedmatch actually tries to match the DNA to a specific group of people, but the group of matching people could differ depending upon which Gedmatch calculator you use. From what I can determine the results between Ancestry and Gedmatch end up being close at the end of the day. It is interesting to note that the Bantu may have still been migrating even during the Trans Atlantic slave period or they may have kept migrating because of the Transatlantic slave trade; or the Bantus might just be really closely related regardless of where they live; because some of closest genetic matches are not only to people taken as slaves in Cameroon and the Congo, but I seem to also be closely related to people in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda and South Africa.

On Ancestry.com my matches came back to:

1. Cameroon/Congo 38%
2. Ghana/Ivory Coast 32%
3. Nigeria 7%
4. Togo/Benin 3%
5. Mali 2%
6. Senegal 2%
7. North Africa 2%

Here are my Dodecad match from Oracle on Gedmatch:

1. ASW (African American which is obvious) at a distance of
2. Luhya (They are in Kenya, but they are Bantu which makes sense if looking at my results)
3. Sara people in Chad
4. Mada people in Cameroon
5. Hausa people in Nigeria
6. Kongo people of the Republic of the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo
7. Bamoun people of Cameroon
8. Fang people of Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon
9. Brong people of Ghana
10. Igbo people of Nigeria
11. Nguni people South Africa
12. Pedi people of South Africa
13. Bambaran people (Mandinkas of Mali, Senegal and Mauritania)
14. Xhosa people of South Africa
15. Alur people of Uganda
16. Dogon people of Mali
17. Fulani people of Nigeria
18. Sotho-Taswana people of South Africa

On the Punt DNAL Oracle calculator my closest relatives are:
1. Mandinka
2. Igbo
3. Bambaran
4. Hausa
5. Fulani
6. Yoruba
7. Sandawe people of Tanzania
8. Fang
9. Mozabite people of Algeria (They are Berbers)
10. Kung people of South Africa
11. Egyptian
12. Moroccan
13. Dogon People of Mali
14. Hadza people of Tanzania
15. Luhya
16. Ethiopian
17. Somali
18. Maasai people of Kenya and Tanzania
19. Alur people of Uganda
20. Bulala people of Chad

Harrapa World
1. African American
2. African Caribbrean
3. Fang people
4. Kongo people
5. Kaba (Sara people)
6. Bamoun people
7. Mandinka
8. Hausa
9. Bantu South Africa
10. Igbo
11. Pedi People
12. Bambaran
13. Brong
14. Nguni people
15. Dogon people
16. Yoruba
17. Fulani
18. Bantu Kenya

These are mine (there are some more but I don't fell like posting)


Yoruba
Hadza
Luhya
Bantu N.E.
Bantu S.W
San
Ethiopian Gumuz
Bantu S.E
Mandenka
Ethiopian Ari cultivator
Biaka pygmy
Igbo
Hausa
Lemba
Sudanese
Somali
Sandawe
Maasai
Bantu
Papuan
Cypriot
Fang

AkanIgbo:
I am an African American and I got some really interesting results between Ancestry.com and the Gedmatch calculators too. Ancesty.com just uses a bunch of countries where they found most of your DNA exists. Gedmatch actually tries to match the DNA to a specific group of people, but the group of matching people could differ depending upon which Gedmatch calculator you use. From what I can determine the results between Ancestry and Gedmatch end up being close at the end of the day. It is interesting to note that the Bantu may have still been migrating even during the Trans Atlantic slave period or they may have kept migrating because of the Transatlantic slave trade; or the Bantus might just be really closely related regardless of where they live; because some of closest genetic matches are not only to people taken as slaves in Cameroon and the Congo, but I seem to also be closely related to people in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda and South Africa.

On Ancestry.com my matches came back to:

1. Cameroon/Congo 38%
2. Ghana/Ivory Coast 32%
3. Nigeria 7%
4. Togo/Benin 3%
5. Mali 2%
6. Senegal 2%
7. North Africa 2%

Here are my Dodecad match from Oracle on Gedmatch:

1. ASW (African American which is obvious) at a distance of
2. Luhya (They are in Kenya, but they are Bantu which makes sense if looking at my results)
3. Sara people in Chad
4. Mada people in Cameroon
5. Hausa people in Nigeria
6. Kongo people of the Republic of the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo
7. Bamoun people of Cameroon
8. Fang people of Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon
9. Brong people of Ghana
10. Igbo people of Nigeria
11. Nguni people South Africa
12. Pedi people of South Africa
13. Bambaran people (Mandinkas of Mali, Senegal and Mauritania)
14. Xhosa people of South Africa
15. Alur people of Uganda
16. Dogon people of Mali
17. Fulani people of Nigeria
18. Sotho-Taswana people of South Africa

On the Punt DNAL Oracle calculator my closest relatives are:
1. Mandinka
2. Igbo
3. Bambaran
4. Hausa
5. Fulani
6. Yoruba
7. Sandawe people of Tanzania
8. Fang
9. Mozabite people of Algeria (They are Berbers)
10. Kung people of South Africa
11. Egyptian
12. Moroccan
13. Dogon People of Mali
14. Hadza people of Tanzania
15. Luhya
16. Ethiopian
17. Somali
18. Maasai people of Kenya and Tanzania
19. Alur people of Uganda
20. Bulala people of Chad

Harrapa World
1. African American
2. African Caribbrean
3. Fang people
4. Kongo people
5. Kaba (Sara people)
6. Bamoun people
7. Mandinka
8. Hausa
9. Bantu South Africa
10. Igbo
11. Pedi People
12. Bambaran
13. Brong
14. Nguni people
15. Dogon people
16. Yoruba
17. Fulani
18. Bantu Kenya

Hold on I'll post my tribal matches up in a couple of minutes.

AkanIgbo:
Strange that you would say that, because I am an African American and I took the DNA test through Ancestry.com as well and when I ued the Gedmatch calculators I noticed that depending upon which Gedmatch calculator I used I was a match to Hausa, Igbo, Fulani and Yoruba. Yoruba didn't show up in all of the Gedmatch calculator, but Hausa, Igbo and Fulani did. It is also really strange to see that depending on which calculator you use you can be more related to Hausa people than Igbo and vice versa.

Another thing that I wonder about is whether the Igbo are actually Bantu people, because it seems like when I see other people results it looks like whenever people are Igbo they are also Bantu. Maybe it is just coincidence on the testing that I have seen.

Cool cool, you use Gedmatch too, so I think you would understand the question then most of the people who answered on here. Yeah different calculators come up with different results but they look similar. One calculator matched me up with the Fang tribe. I looked them up and it says they use to live in the northern eastern parts of Nigeria until they were chased off by the Islamic Hausa tribe. So, I guess it makes sense for me to be matched up with them since they're technically Nigerians.As for the Bantu part, I was matched up with the Bantu as well and some tribe in Kenya.What else did you matched up with? Did you try the Jtest?

MightySparrow:
Since Igbos are from Israel, did u check if the thing indicated Middle East at least somewhere close, Iraq for I instance?

On one test it says 0.58% middle eastern, another 2.03% middle eastern. Another 1.17% Ashkenazi, another 1.03% western Semitic (or something like that) and another one 12.03% Palestinian (they say Palestinian was a proxy for middle eastern, so it's really 12.03% middle eastern on one of my chromosomes)

MightySparrow:
Since Igbos are from Israel, did u check if the thing indicated Middle East at least somewhere close, Iraq for I instance?

On one test is says 0.58 middle eastern, another 2.03% middle eastern. Another 1.03% Ashkenazi. And another one 1.17% western Semitic.

MightySparrow:
Since Igbos are from Israel, did u check if the thing indicated Middle East at least somewhere close, Iraq for I instance?

No not all Igbo's are from Israel, maybe a good number but not all. And yes, it did, did you not read the list? It says Ashkenazi Jew and middle eastern.

isalegan2:
that could simply mean that igbo, yoruba, hausa descended from the same ancestor however long ago.

op, kudos to you and your dad! dont mind the naysayers. obviously you are igbo but want to go back into history to learn more about your lineage. it is often difficult to have that information at the ready unless u can trace to royalty, and then its easy from there. most dont have that luxury. the people mocking ur efforts may one day realise they're not who they always assumed they were. . .then they'll be scrambling to put the missing pieces together.

great effort, bro.

btw, i wasnt sure what to make of ur opening post - joke or trolling, lol - but as you made one or two follow-up posts, i saw u were genuine. best of luck in ur very meaningful research!

Thanks

Okeikpu:
Ok, u guys should come back home nd start from there... We hv our own ways on getting such results.... That's y we re called the gr8 Igbos

We will go to Nigeria sometime, just not this summer. We're kinda going to be busy.

Okeikpu:
If your parents re both Igbos, then what a 4uck re u doing wt all ds test......

How many times do I have to say this? My father wants to see if he can trace his family tree father back he has a family tree at his house in Nigeria.

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Well that was random. lol

oweman:
you simply need some help.

You simply need to know how to read; I have no problem with my family's history. Doing DNA tests just helps to learn more about it. Just because I'm Igbo and I take a DNA test, does not mean I'm trying to deny my history. You saying that just makes you stùpid.

Pavore9:
Here in Kenya, there is a tribe that may have a shared ancestry with the igbos though l am yet to do a detailed research, they bear names such Opara, Amadi, Okechi, Ngige etc!

Cool story bro.

oweman:
THE GUY IS PROBABLY CONFUSED HE.WANT TO DEJY BEING IBO BECAUSE.OF THE NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF IBOS BEIJG VIOLENT AND KRI.............LY MINDED .
TO HELP HIK OUT THERE IS A FAST DEMINISING TRIBE IN KEBBll STATE DONT THINK THEY WOULD MIND RECIEVING YOU INTO THIER MIST THEY ARE CALLED 'BADEKERE' ZURU you can go join them ; dog eating is standard too !

Your a fücking idíot, it has nothing to do with me 'denying My Igbo ancestors' it's seems like you did not read any of the posts or atleast my posts so it's seems like your confused. I stated before, my Father wants to see if he can trace his Family tree father back. Nothing more, Nothing Less.

Ibrahimmrfish:
You probably are of Hausa descend. They also have a y in their DNA.

A 'Y'?

And yes your correct, the test says I'm a mixture of Yoruba, Hausa, and Igbo.

ddefoe:
if ur parient are Ibo then ur ibo too! Forget that DNA stuff.its man made

DNA is not man made, DNA is what gives us are Eye color, Skin Color, Hair Color etc it's not man made, rather DNA made man. I see a lot of Igbo on this website who has a ton of ego up there asś that they will go as far as to say that so and so is false just to support there views. Plus my Grandfather is part middle eastern so it's explains the test.