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tpiadotcom:
Do you know what years?

I think Radi give the years, the 19th century.

tpiadotcom:
Does your mum know how/why her ancestor was in the area at that time?

again, I'd have to ask her, but All I know was that my grandfather was a general in the army so that's a clue. But as for the Askenazi part, my father side is really rich and they own businesses and travel a lot, so that's probably had the Ashkenazi got in there in the first place, from traveling.

Radoillo:
Well, this is unexpected. A maternal Jewish great-great grandfather. That puts your Jewish ancestor in the 19th century, at least. One wouldn't think there were Jewish men mixing with women in the relatively insular interior of Igboland at that time.

But it does make a little sense, going by your revelation that he was Sephardic, and not Ashkenazi.



Do you know any details about this Jewish ancestor? Where he came from? What brought him to Nigerian shores in about the 19th century?

I'll have to ask my parents, well maybe not my parents my grandmother specifically. But I can say that my mother's grandfather was a general in the army if that helps.

tpiadotcom:
Does your mum know how/why her ancestor was in the area at that time?

Ahh don't know, I'd have to ask her.

bigfrancis21:
If all you're saying is true, then it might explain your test.

However, initially I noticed you smirked at the possibility of having ashnekazi jewish ancestry.

Because it says Nazi in it, so I thought it was funny, plus my ancestor was a Sephardi jew not an Ashkenazi Jew, so I didn't know I had any Ashkenazi Jewish Ancestors

bigfrancis21:
Ok. Which country in the middle east?

One from Syria another from Israel.

bigfrancis21:
How is your mother's father part middle eastern?

Because his father's grandfather was middle eastern. But his father's grandmother was an Igbo so yeah it's part middle eastern.

bigfrancis21:
Lolll. Do you believe the test now?

I would suggest you try other well-known DNA testing ancestry companies such as africanancestry.com.

I'm already got Another company, and yes it's pretty accurate besidea the Lemba thing is at a low percentage, and I'm 80% west African, since the west African gene is dominate then I said is pretty accurate. Also, my mother confirms what the test says, she knows her father is part middle eastern (she has her own family tree back at her home that she can trace to at least one middle eastern ancestor) so to say my families's ancestors did not pick up other genes while traveling from the Middle East all the way to west Africa is pretty inaccurate.

bigfrancis21:
Ok. And what type of DNA testing specifically did you do? Y-DNA (tribe specific, paternal ancestry), Mt-DNA testing (tribe specific, maternal ancestry) or the autosomal testing (non-tribal specific, but the one that observes your entire genetic markers and tries to pin it to certain areas in the world)?

And they also connected me to the Lemba people.

bigfrancis21:
Ok. And what type of DNA testing specifically did you do? Y-DNA (tribe specific, paternal ancestry), Mt-DNA testing (tribe specific, maternal ancestry) or the autosomal testing (non-tribal specific, but the one that observes your entire genetic markers and tries to pin it to certain areas in the world)?

Also I don't know if this is useful but the test connected me to other tribes other then Igbo here's the list: Bambaran, Yoruba, Hausa, dogon,bamoun,brong,luhya,kaba,fang, alur, and Kongo. There are a few others but I forgot them.

bigfrancis21:
Ok. And what type of DNA testing specifically did you do? Y-DNA (tribe specific, paternal ancestry), Mt-DNA testing (tribe specific, maternal ancestry) or the autosomal testing (non-tribal specific, but the one that observes your entire genetic markers and tries to pin it to certain areas in the world)?

Autosomal testing so it shows no Haplogroup which is why my brother is taking a DNA test so we can get the Haplogroups.

Ihuomadinihu:
Lol. You are just Igbo na. What part of Igboland do you come from? Did you folks take the test too?

My younger brother took a DNA test, but his results are coming in, in a couple of weeks. And Anambra state.

bigfrancis21:
That reminds me, what state(s) in Igboland are your parents from?

Both are genectically from Anambra state.

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What the fúck? I'm confused

I took a DNA test at AncestryDNA and as I expected it says that I am 100% west African.

But I bought another kit from 23andme so I can find out my brother's Y-DNA. While I was waiting for my Brother's test results to come in, I decided to upload my AncestryDNA results to Gedmatch since Gedmatch, AncestryDNA, and 23andme all work with other. So on Gedmatch when one of the first test I took on Gedmatch was the 'Jtest' under the Eurogene project, selecting the chromosome painting process and here are the results.

South-Baltic
East-Euro
North-Central_ Euro
Atlantic
West-Med
AshkeNAZI (giggle)
East-med
West-Asian
Middle eastern
South-Asian
East African
Siberian
West-Africa

Unfortunately, this particular test did not show a percentage, but they had a color code, and the color for west Africa which was light brown, was of course really really dominate.

My second test

This one is under the dodcad project, the process type was 'Admixture proportions (with link to Oracle)'

The calculator model was 'Africa9'

Here are the results (this one shows the percentage)

Europe: 0.49%
SW.Asia: 0.78%
E Africa: 5.61%
S. Africa: 14.26%
Mbuti: 3.86%
West Africa: 69.00%
Biaka: 5.94%
San: 0.06%


Either Gedmatch looks deeper into ancestry more. Or I need to take different types of tests at Ancestry. I took multiple test at Gedmatch because they were free, but I only felt like posting two of the tests. While ancestry I would have to pay more to get those other types of tests.

But seriously what's up with that? My genes are like the fùcking rainbow. But really I'm confused, I thought I was 100% west African Igbo , because both of my parents are Igbo, but I'm not even 100% Igbo it's self, according to ancestry, I'm 50% Nigerian, 24% Cameroon/Congo, 20% Benin/Togo, and 6% Ivory Coast/Ghana.


Also, my Parents were never slaves in America, they came to America by there own free will. They were not here during slavery, they came recently like 20 years, Like 1995, slavery was already dead, so slavery in America could not be the option with this DNA mix up.

So, when people ask me where I'm from do I list all of the countries where my DNA leads to?

Or should I just say Nigeria?

Or should I just switch up, like sometimes I say Nigeria, others times Cameroon, other times Europe, others times Middle East etc.?

And what's funny is that I don't even look mix, all my friends say I look African, that's it.

lol the guy who said 'let me get some Gatorade first' knows what life is.

Meaning and purpose of life:

Get Laid,Get paid, Gatorade.

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Ihuomadinihu:
Yeah,that's for the people linking Europeans and Igbos. African haplogroups(A,B,CD,E) were here before any European,all non African gene can be traced back to Africa. Any account of back migration should be investigated though. I feel historians should focus on cultural diffusion between different African regions. The most popular assumption is that West Africa had no contact with other Africans. That's a big lie! And even if 10 or Twenty Europeans/arab/asian genes

penetrated igboland,it's not strong enough to corrupt the Igbo genes.

Exactly!

Ihuomadinihu:
Oh,thanks. I wasn't aware of that.
Anyway,E1b1b is a North/East African dna group and closely linked to Afroasiatic people/languages. This R1b sounds strange to me,am gonna make some researches on it.
What is it all about?

Also, some say that the R1b-v88 in west Africa are decendants of Moses through Moses's Ethiopian wife, while the one in Levant are decendants of Moses through Moses's Midianite wife.

Ihuomadinihu:
Oh,thanks. I wasn't aware of that.
Anyway,E1b1b is a North/East African dna group and closely linked to Afroasiatic people/languages. This R1b sounds strange to me,am gonna make some researches on it.
What is it all about?

I heard that R1b-v88 was a result of a back-to-Africa migration which is why people are fascinated about it, like how many Haplogroup s goes BACK to Africa? And WHY? Did they do it?Also, when the R1b went back to Africa, they moved out of Africa again and the second time they moved out was said to be around the time of the exodus. 95% of men from northern Cameroon/northern Nigeria has the R1b-v88. R1b-v88 also went to Europe and broke into the modern r1b and R1a, which is why Nigerians are NOT Europeans. The Europeans are Nigerians! Big difference.

Ihuomadinihu:
Do we have R1b in Igboland?

Yes, we have R1b-v88 in IgboLand, but it's only like 2%-10% and there is probably only 15 million Igbo's in IgboLand? So, probably 1.5 million Igbo have it. The rest of the Igbo have E1b1a, and a little bit of E1b1b. And they also probably have a low amount of Igbo that may have a different sub clan of R1B. 50-55% of Igbo have E1b1a, while the rest is just a mystery.

....Bruddah Shymexx......I think that Map is Pointing to Northern Cameroon....

Check this Video out.




It seems Chadic Speakers and Northern Cameroon Hold R1B Markers

.....It seems the Ibos are off the Hook........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0weSbf0TsZ0 <------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b

https://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_R1b.gif

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Haplogroup_R_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG/800px-Haplogroup_R_%28Y-DNA%29.PNG[/img]

I looked it up, the R1b-V88 is like a thousand years removed from the R1B in Europe.So, some Igbo and some European are just cousins, not close cousins, probably like 20 or 30 cousins apart not enough to be called Europeans, also the R1B-V88 in northern Nigeria and some parts in IgboLand are more ancient then the r1b in Europe, so, saying that the Igbo's are Europeans is like saying that Abraham is a decendant of Jacob. Both are silly, very silly.