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MaxInDHouse:
It's when someone PUBLICLY DECLARE he or she is now one of Jehovah's Witnesses that such one could be held responsible for his or her actions nah?🙂

If I haven't Publicly Declare that I am a Jehovah's witnesses, why I'm I counted as a Jehovah's witnesses behind my back?

Can't you see the forgery?

Can't you see this is all about Window dressing the numbers like a rogue accountant to make people invest in a sinking Company?

MaxInDHouse:
@Floww23
Our brothers welcomed new converts as fellow believers because these ones received the spirit of our God {Act 10:44} which means they started doing the work we also do.
But can such new ones be appointed as elders or ministerial servants?
NO.
WHY?
Because they've not been DECLARED PUBLICLY before many Witnesses!🙂

If you have been listening at your convention to the baptism question number 2, you will know the above you wrote is gibberish

A Jehovah's witnesses is a Baptized person. Not Unbaptised publisher's.

Counting them is forgery

MaxInDHouse:
Because he offered himself or herself willingly which God's word taught us that it's the spirit of our God that moves them:

Your people will offer themselves willingly on the day of your military force. In splendid holiness, from the womb of the dawn, You have your company of young men just like dewdrops. Psalms 110:3

Then it's someone declared before all that can be given the office of oversight just as Jesus also chose his first twelve disciples and made them Apostles. 🙂

You are just confused.

The baptism question says this :

If Baptism is what identify someone as a Jehovah's witnesses, Why count Unbaptised persons as one of Jehovah's witnesses?

MaxInDHouse:
But you guys will later claim you are educated o!😟
So you expect a person who has not been DECLARED PUBLICLY to take the lead in God's organization?😀

Why count a person that has not been declared publicly as a Jehovah's witnesses?

MaxInDHouse:
In the Bible is it only baptized disciples that are recorded or those who have become believers?🙂
Note that those who are preaching and teaching actively are Jehovah's Witnesses baptism is public declaration o!😀

So why can't Unbaptised become Elders or regular pioneers ? Since they are Jehovah's witnesses?

Courz:
Gbamest! This is exactly what I have been saying. The baptisms do not add anything since they have already been counted before. So, where is the growth? This Cult is not growing at all. Hence why they are making changes. They are seeing that their future is not bright at all. Worst part is they are losing young people who are supposed to carry the Cult when the old ones die.

Here comes the 21 year old Elders , ,😂

MaxInDHouse:
You guys lack spiritual insight.

So when God's Kingdom comes as JWs believe are we supposed to expect only baptized ones to survive the end of this system of things or all those whose names has been written in God's memory book? Malachi 3:16

The question is : Why is the actual number of Baptized witnesses hidden ?

Janosky:
To be stored for long period ?
Or with someone elses own?
No !!!!!


"In the course of ...." (Screenshot).

He scored a goal in the course of the match.
Oga,upgrade your comprehension skills.


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Let me Educate you. You can only store blood for around 42 days . It's not even a long time. Olodo

It says nothing about time. The point is if MR A a Jehovah witness decide to store his own blood to be transfused back to him , it's his choice

Which invalidated what Enjoy life forever page 255 said about storing blood not for Christians.

Courz:
And look at these baptisms very well. These are people they have already been counting for years. No new members are joining. Children of JWS are the only ones increasing their number but only for a short time because they eventually leave the Cult. So, why did they forge this 9 million? From where? Lol.

You clock it.
That's why the number stay stagnant, since you already count A, B and C as Unbaptised publisher, their Baptism will make no difference to the numbers later .

Courz:
Facts! They count unbaptized publishers to boost their numbers. But amongst themselves they claim they are not yet JWs. So,why count them? This means the real number is way less than what they present. They use to be open about their figures when they had more members.When the Cult started dying, they stopped. Na we know etin dem dey do. JWs know nothing.

They know nothing. Most of them don't even know plenty Unbaptised are counted low key to inflate the Numbers, it's a shock when u show them

SarcasticWords:
Please use simple words for him so he and his partner can understand.

Witnesses who lost Family members will never forgive his si.lly arguments. People have their blood stored but were denied because it's Unscriptural to be transfused with their own blood. only to later die

Now someone is trying to gaslight them that it's not a change, they were just Stupid to listen to the first paragraph of Enjoy Life forever end note

MaxInDHouse:
Are they preaching and teaching the same message?🙂

At least tell me I'm lying that baptized witnesses are not up to the 9 million advertised?

Ask the average JW , how many Witnesses are around the world, they will quickly boast this number. Do you agree that the Number is forged?

Courz:
Facts! They count unbaptized publishers to boost their numbers. But amongst themselves they claim they are not yet JWs. So,why count them? This means the real number is way less than what they present. They use to be open about their figures when they had more members.When the Cult started dying, they stopped. Na we know etin dem dey do. JWs know nothing.

You can't date an Unbaptised publisher, because they are not witnesses, but on paper , they are used to forge the numbers

Janosky:
The screenshot is my response .
No .

This is the same stand we had in the 1970s,repeated in 2000 & update #2

" This includes whether to allow his own blood to be removed , STORED, and then given back to him"

Stored

Stored

Stored


And then given back

Blood transfusion.

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you a simple question:
Did Jesus say his real disciples will outnumber faithless people?🙂

Do you know that the 9 million in your yearly stat is a Fraud ? They are counting UNbaptized people in that number too?

So logically the number of actual Baptized witnesses might be around 5 or 6 million.

why is the organization making their followers believe baptized witnesses are 9 million if they don't care about the numbers ?

Why the forgery?

Why is the Actual number of Baptized witnesses never published ?

Janosky:
My first response

We say we no dey store our own for long period where dem go mix am with other people own or fit give dem when we no dey.
Our right ,our choice..

Oga, upgrade your comprehension skills.
Everything no be long grammar.

Good.

Presently after the update , Can you now store it for long period ?

Courz:
The question should be, How many are baptizing versus How many are leaving? Ask MaxinDhouse that question. He won't answer you because of Shame.

There was a time the number stood at 8 million for years, none of them was asking questions: Why 8 million stagnant for years when people baptize every weekend ?

Janosky:
Is my comment to your post in Arabic ?
Why act as if you don't understand the point expressed?

Was the point about during surgery or in advance of surgery?

Courz:
The question should be, How many are baptizing versus How many are leaving? Ask MaxinDhouse that question. He won't answer you because of Shame.

I actually want him to open his mouth and tell me there are 9 million Baptized JW's .

Janosky:

I have answered your question ,not gonna repeat myself.

This is you

"We dey store am (for example) for both heart-lung bypass machines and cell saver devices which are designed to collect, process, and store (or manage) a patient's own blood during surgery, " - Janosky

Dumb response actually, Pre surgery is not the same as During Surgery, Do you go to school?

Janosky:
Do you have any right to impose your choice on us?
Na there you dey go.

We say we no dey store our own for long period where dem go mix am with other people own or fit give dem when we no dey.
Our right ,our choice.

We dey store am (for example) for both heart-lung bypass machines and cell saver devices which are designed to collect, process, and store (or manage) a patient's own blood during surgery, allowing for autotransfusion (giving the patient their own blood back).

Na this one we prefer since long time ago,we still announce am for update #2

Oga, na our choice brief storage in the moment or course of a procedure, no long story.

Comprehension shouldn't be this hard, the part that ban storing blood in enjoy life forever isn't discussing During Surgery, Rather IN ADVANCE OF SURGERY


Simple question:

Pre surgery - Can you store your blood according to Enjoy life forever page 255?

"having his own blood STORED IN ADVANCE OF SURGERY —​are not acceptable for Christians.​—

U say ?

Janosky:
Floww23
The first paragraph is what applies to Transfusion, stored blood being given back and it was banned before the update.

The second paragraph is about the use of blood while the surgery is ongoing. The moment , not Stored.


See the individuals contradicting themselves.

Floww23 : JW's reject storing for future use,he brought screenshot.
The 2nd paragraph has been our norm since the 1970s.

So explain: Storing blood pre surgery is not acceptable to Christians , what does this statement in Enjoy life forever means?

MaxInDHouse:
FAILURE AGAIN!🙂
How many people became disciples of Christ when he walked the earth?
Jesus never said we will outnumber you faithless people o rather all wanted is two to three witnesses in each community. Matthew 18:20
So how many countries do you think there is no single JW?🙂

I ask a simple question: How many Baptized JW are around the world ?

Courz:
Seeing how fast they jumped to start keeping beards and wearing trousers for JW women is a sign that Jehovah's witnesses do not enjoy keeping their rules. They don't like it. They are Slaves to their rules. They are in serious bondage. You can tell they've been deprived of living a normal life. They were so relieved when the changes came. Mark my words. You will see jubilation amongst them once they are allowed to celebrate Birthdays and Christmas. Look at this blood issue. Many of them take blood secretly as we speak o. Many Exjws admitted to taking blood while they were JWs. Doctors and Nurses have already exposed this. These people cannot follow their own rules hence why many of them live double lives. It is just the Hypocrisy of the Pharisees that is worrying Jehovah's Witnesses. They look like jokers now. Lol.

There will be massive Celebration the day Birthdays update appear. Many young ones are already celebrating theirs low key

MaxInDHouse:
Unah go cry tire because each year you will continue to see newly baptized ones dedicating themselves to Jehovah our God!🙂

Ignorance
How many Baptized witnesses are around the world ?

Courz:
But here you are swallowing every jargon given to you by your Governing Body. To be a Beroan means you have to be an apostate. You have to question what you are told in order to test the Spirits. The Bible says you must Test everything you are told. Everything! You JWs are not following what the Bible says because your Governing Body has banned you from doing that or else you are tagged an Apostate. Who do you obey, The Bible that asks you to Test or your Governing Body that tells you not to do that? If it is the Governing Body you choose to obey, then you are worshipping your Governing Body and disregarding what the Bible asked you to do. This change is a lesson that you JWs had better start questioning what you are told by your Governing Body.

The horrible and pathetic one was how all of them started spotting beards the moment they were allowed, even including the hypocrites who has scolded their brothers for having a beard, GB says Yes to beard and suddenly all of them are now jumping on it like little babies. Something the Bible never Banned.

It shows they Esteem this men above the Bible itself.

achorladey:
The fact that they had to reverse the long practice of not storing blood to start storing for future use tells us they know those your bloodess alternatives get comma or K-leg.

No dey overhype wetin still need you to reverse to what was banned.

He is busy gaslighting himself that it wasn't a change , I think he couldn't handle the thought that such a mistake was held so long to hurt people, perhaps this is a ploy to blame the deaths as a result of that policy on the members rather than the directives given

Emusan:
You have done enough justice to this issue but as usual they'll keep jumping from one scripture to another to further their confusion.

Just wait when they bring Jesus Himself into this discussion.

Lol 🤣 Morning Bro

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't promise us that everyone will open their doors wide for us o! Matthew 10:11-15😀

But u keep bugging, so shut your mouth when Ex witnesses keep bugging you people too. They are also preaching

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are no longer believing what the Bible teaches rather you are insisting on Watchtower against the Bible!🤣

You are an Apostate. A good JW esteem
whatever watchtower says and where it appear to contradict the Bible , a good JW says " let's wait for clarification from the GB in future , when it's time GB will correct things "

Courz:
Gbam! A good JW never questions anything. But a Beroan according to the Bible is one who researches what he or she is taught to determine if it is true or not. A JW trying to be Beroaen is technically an apostate according to their Governing Body. You are not allowed to be a Beroan in JW or else you will see the failures of the Governing Body which exposes them to be False.

I have told MaxinDhouse that he is an Apostate. His own JW members have called him the same on different occasions in this forum. He thinks we are joking. Lol.

For real ? 😂

Courz:
Good question. Everywhere they go to preach, they are rejected. That's God's way of protecting the body of Christ from False religion. It never occurred to them that something is wrong somewhere. It never occurred to them that some countries choosing to Ban them is supposed to be a red flag. The Bible says many will come to serve God and follow Jesus. But here they are shrinking in population with empty Kingdom halls, Assembly halls and bethel branches for sale in many countries and forging numbers out of thin air. They never bother to ask themselves why. They allowed their Governing Body to lie to them.

Next time they ask you why you keep talking about their religion, just shut them up with why they keep bugging people despite the high level of lack of interest people display.