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MaxInDHouse:
Of course they are!
Was Jesus not led by God when he chose Judas Iscariot who later betrayed him?
I have given you the evidence that the millions you are seeing behind them is holding to.
They are fulfilling what God foretold about them in the Bible so whatever mistakes they make doesn't count.
Paul said the Beroeans were wiser than Thessalonians because whatever the apostles teaches them they go back to study the scriptures for themselves.
That's what all wise JWs do not just following blindly.
Despite my conviction that they are chosen by God i never told you that they can't make mistakes neither do they said so!🙂

They are but wrote Lies about Judas being a Good person, Did God led that writing?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ JWs are never ever hurt because of betrayal by those who have learned the truth
[s]in fact it makes us know that we are still in the world where Satan rules!
See what apostle John wrote about the topic:

[b]They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort. 1John 2:19


Ọmọ John was talking about Christians in the first century baptized and appointed as elders! [/s]

Spies didn't learn your truth, they are ACTORs who needed to play the Game to Get your members Jailed and imprisoned. They were never from you, they were loyal to the Government that sent them


But for them to be appointed to harm your people either means

(A) God appointed them to hurt your people because the Religion is False

(B) God didn't appoint them or any Elder , it was just men leading men in your religion

I'm okay with option you choose

MaxInDHouse:
Who wrote the insight?
And are they infallible?

Good. Those who wrote insight are not led by God , just infallible men

Finally it's clear that your Elders and GB are simply infallible men not led by God.

Thank you for your time

MaxInDHouse:
And you believe the insight shey?
So why quoting it if you believe those behind it are not guided by holy spirit o?😟

Do you disagree with insight?

Insight Lied that Judas was once a faithful person?

MaxInDHouse:
Go for a Bible study with JWs at least you can see that Jesus chose Judas as one of his closest confidants (Apostles)🙂

According to Insight on scripture, Jesus chose a righteous man who later became Judas. You are just sprouting dust

According to you Spies were appointed by God despite they hurt your brother's, does that mean God was punishing your brother's for joining a false religion?

MaxInDHouse:
And continue to remain spies afterwards shey?
Well you guys needs Bible study with JWs because it's evident many are just following religion without knowledge.

Moses (God's prophet) sent TWELVE SPIES to Canaan and Joshua was one of them {Numbers 14:6} who later became leader of God's people the irony of the matter is Moses only saw the land from afar while Joshua (the Spy) led them into the promised land. God used Joshua to write a Bible book bearing Joshua's name o!😟

Abeg Aunty Janet humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses!🙂

Janet is smarter than you are, this spies use the information they get as Elders to imprison and hurt your brother's , Who appointed them?

MaxInDHouse:
Some are spies by profession working for worldly authority abeg does it makes them evil men? 🙂
Ọmọ that's the profession they found themselves doing after their military training not the person they are on the inside what God treasures!

This spies became Elder and got access to information that were used to imprison many JW's . Why would holy spirit appoint someone that Will Hurt the congregation as sherperd? Look into the Mirror. The truth is staring at you

Now if the Elder appointment isn't by holy spirit, what does that say about GB since they Re also elders ?

The truth is staring at you

MaxInDHouse:
Lie!
Judas Iscariot is a lover of material things right from the beginning that is why Jesus made him the group treasurer to teach him a lesson but he was too desperate for worldly riches.

The organisation you represent L1e? Cos they just contradicted you

" It is logical to conclude that Judas had been a disciple for a time before Jesus made him an apostle. Many writers paint an entirely black picture of Judas, but evidently for a while he had been a disciple who found favor with God and with Jesus; his very selection as an apostle indicates that. " - Insight on the scriptures

Going by this insight , Jesus didn't appoint a rogue, but someone with God's favour, this doesn't correlate with appointment of KGB spies who never had good intentions

In the next post you said

Now those sent as spies joined us and Jehovah's spirit directed the congregation to appoint most of them as elders so they can penetrate and see that there is nothing to hide which led many of them to resign and dedicate their lives to our happy God!🙂

So God's Spirit appointed Wicked men as Elders, remind me the qualifications of an Elder again and if spies meet them ?

Not to mention that, does this not prove you can't trust Elders and the GB ?

MaxInDHouse:
Why did Jesus appoint Judas Iscariot as one of the Apostles?

Ọmọ Jesus is the one leading God's organization he knows what he is doing despite all your grievances you can't mention your own church besides Jehovah's Witnesses because you know that the JWs are better than all your churches.

I dear you to mention the name of your own church let everyone compare your church to Jehovah's Witnesses!😀

See you ain't talking to an idi0t or your congregation members where you gaslight each other with failed logic

Jesus didn't appoint a rogue , He was a Faithful Man, that's why Jesus entrusted him with the finance

" It is logical to conclude that Judas had been a disciple for a time before Jesus made him an apostle. Many writers paint an entirely black picture of Judas, but evidently for a while he had been a disciple who found favor with God and with Jesus; his very selection as an apostle indicates that. " - Insight on the scriptures

So the Case of Judas was a good man turn rogue, the spies were never men with good intentions, they deliberately joined to access hidden information and right there they were appointed in your midst to top position as Elders, Who da hell appointed them? And what does this say about appointments in your organisation up to GB?

MaxInDHouse:
In most countries where Christendom Church leaders are working with their government they used to tell their government lies about Jehovah's Witnesses so the government will send spies in the intelligence to go and find out if what they heard is true only for most of those sent to do the investigation become convinced that they have found the only true religion and become one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
This has happened in Ghana and the U.S!🙂

Who appointed those spies as Elders ? Shebi you said it's God that apoint people in your organisation,answer that

MaxInDHouse:
God's people are led by His anointed men so when they notice that something is not clear to members of God's flock they pass the info globally so each JW will continue to refer his or her brothers and sisters to the information.

if ordinary Elders are not even appointed by God, it's your GB that's appointed by God ? Secret spies Join the congregation and become Elders right under your nose.

The below is a quote from Watchtower January 2016

Emphasis on ' some mistakenly think they are anointed, some have MENTAL problem ' this are the people you choose to lead you , hence the plenty mistakes

highoctane:

Notably of some they KGBs, In old Soviet Union later become Jehovah's Witnesses.
Notably, make a research Vladimir Putin some years back awarded a Jehovah's witness family ( examplary family of the year)
Though we don't gloat on such mundane, empirical thing.
Some powerful notable families in the world have Jehovah's witnesses among themselves

Who appointed the secret spies that became Elders ?

I want to test the whole God chose your GB theory.

MaxInDHouse:
There are thousand and one alternative solutions so my brothers are fully prepared for such cases.
It's faithless people that are never prepared for the last days Jehovah's Witnesses are aware and fully prepared.

This is what the Bible says:

The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, But the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

By the time World Health Organization (WHO) will announce to the whole world that Jehovah's Witnesses are right all along regarding this matter most people will be half dead due to complications emerging from external blood running in their system.

If the alternative are working, your organisation won't start allowing blood fractions, and storing of ones own blood. Give it time, it's baby step they will allow taking others blood too.

The alternative are not working hence this changes, use your head

MaxInDHouse:
So you don't even know what you are saying it's all about your aggression towards God's people.

Here is it again and you can also ask Google to tell you how many JWs have died or survived due to cases of blood transfusion.

The Changes is my proof that millions have died which they are desperately trying to save, They didn't make the change cos of one or two isolated cases

The purpose of WAR is to kill, your GB has already killed many of their members from blood fractions ban , organ transplant ban to storing of blood ban. Many Families affected

MaxInDHouse:
So you don't have the statistics. right?
Below is the statistics regarding death caused by wars (something JWs don't get involved at all) and blood transfusion which we detests due to our faith.

Oya compare Sir!🙂

The purpose of WAR is to Kill,

Here is what the Bible said
"Speaking rashly is like a piercing sword" Proverb 12:18

In the tongue is life and death.


Give me the statistics of million of people your organization careless words have killed since organ transplant, blood fraction , stored blood Instead since it's existence,

highoctane:
I am gullible with 5 stars honors, like the faithful apostles of Jesus Christ.
Read Read the Bible book of John 6:55,56, 66-68. the gist Jesus said something very outlandish that tettered towards canablism. verse 68 is an interesting determination by those who are governed by holy spirit.( you may call the apostles gullible? exactly what the Pharisees will do)
Millions have come to a conclusion that Pure spiritual truth resides and stays with Jehovah's earthly organization.

The LDS preach this exact same thing to people who have problems with doctrine, do you agree with them? U don't cos you think LDS Governing council isn't chosen by God, Same way Warwick men are not chosen by God


Ordinary Elders in your Congregations are not even chosen by God. It's all man made politics and man to man, Do you know there was a time Secret police men join your congregations and become Elders, what does that tell you about appointments in your organisation up to GB?

Remove the wool from your eyes

highoctane:
Read the Bible book of John 6:55,56, 66-68. the gist Jesus said something very outlandish that tettered towards canablism. verse 68 is an interesting determination by those who are governed by holy spirit.
Millions have come to a conclusion that Pure spiritual resides and stays among Jehovah's earthly organisation.

There are other religions that also use this to manipulate their members, not just yours.

This is from the LDS church website

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-seminary-teacher-manual-2023/john-6-60-71?lang=eng

A church manual to use that verse to Help people who have problems with doctrines of the LDS Church

Same thing your leaders are doing. The problem with you people is that you don't see beyond your bubble. Millions of LDS members also concluded that there's nowhere to go except Mormon church. Do you agree with them?

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Now let me address this properly - Jesus was performing a lot of miracles that others knew he came from God, What exactly is some men in Warwick doing that make you assume they are even chosen in the first place ? The same way LDs members think their Governing council was chosen

MaxInDHouse:
Please do you have the statistics not just the emotional blackmail thing?🙂
Can you present the number of JWs that died because they refuse blood transfusion and JWs that survived without blood transfusion?
Thanks in advance.

If people are not dying in high numbers, your religion won't be making changes from organ transplant to blood fractions and now storing your own blood. Did GB kill people with their utterances? Yes. Simple, get the point

Not even an apologies for the lives they have ruined, families that are suffering now because of past mistaken policies.

And as for LOVE i told you some Christians in the first century do have grudges among them but there is no one to support either side that's where the grudge will die naturally but in other religions millions have died due to wars erupting from grudges between just two people.
The statistics are over the Internet if you care to know how many people has been killed due to wars!🙂

Millions have also died due to the Words of the GB , you think killing happen only when you carry Gun ? The Bible said life and death is in the tongue, with mistake. Utterances, GB has killed many in Psychological Wars.

If your members are keeping grudges with one another and changing congregation cos of toxicity, then you ain't different from others. Your GB isn't chosen by any means , that's if they are not even mentally ill as your publications call those who eat emblems

PaNnamdi:
Can u provide evidence of all these u are saying

Read up Australian Royal commission inquiries about Child abuse into the Jehovah's witnesses religion, a Big Case around 2016 that led to your organisation admitting in a watchtower study that child abusers are in the congregation

Many of you act like you are still living in 1990

I don't blame you, they only show you what they want you to see

When they lose in Norway, they didn't post anything on the website, when they won the appeal after lying and editing thier policies on disfellowship people , even deleting the Famous video Loyally uphold Jehovah's judgement - shun unrepentant wrongdoers. From their website, they quickly post the sham victory

Now that Norway went to Supreme court, they won't post if they end up losing. They are playing with your head

MaxInDHouse:
Wait o!
Hope it's not what i'm thinking?
Courz is that you?
Because this default mode really proves something fishy!😀

You think I'm an idio.t you can fool with the love among yourself card? The evidence is there , no love among you people , You try to play the war Card the usual script, but the Sword of the tongue of your GB and it's changing policies has killed more lives than Nigerian Civil War.

I can see you are stuck at this point.

MaxInDHouse:
My guy i responded because i thought you are liberal so i'm really sorry if my response has gotten you angrier than before. So it's OK!🙂

huh
UV just single handedly proved that you are not different from others. The GB has United nothing, no proof they are chosen , just humans dissapointing and betraying each other while covering it up with fake smiles in different congregations Regarding war,


Your GB had made policies that has kill people Just as Wars, from ban on organ transplant which kill many before it was relaxed, to Ban on Blood fraction before it was relaxed , and no ban on stored blood recently relaxed, Many have died, you don't need gun to kill, the Bible said The tongue can be a Sword of death. Your GB by their utterances has gone to war with many souls and kill them untimely. NO PRoVE YET that this are people chosen to lead Gods people.

MaxInDHouse:
What do you think was making those in the first century to eat what they aren't supposed to eat?
Sane mind?
Ọmọ angels were killing them back then because they were insane.🙂

Angels are not killing them today, they are eating emblems to climb the ranks and become Governing Body members even if they are mentally ill. Hence the many policies that has ruin lives
.

Now it's evident you don't know how love works so i will enlighten you.
Love doesn't mean imperfect humans will become perfect that's why there was grudges among believers like Euodia and Syntyche in the first century! Philippians 4:2
So what is the evidence of LOVE?
Two persons may have grudges among them due to imperfection but it can't lead to war because either side can never ever have supporters to that extent. For your information the wars that's leading people into killing people erupted between just two people who refuse to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves that can never ever happen where love reigns because neither side will help anyone to support them against brothers and sisters in Christ.
Do you get it now?🙂


OK don't worry yourself further!😀

Now you admit there are many issues among you all, thank God for evidence, you would have denied. You are claiming your people are not perfect, those outside are perfect? No I ask, those outside u judge everyday, are they perfect

UV just single handedly proved that you are not different from others. The GB has United nothing, no proof they are chosen , just humans dissapointing and betraying each other while covering it up with fake smiles in different congregations


Regarding war, Your GB had made policies that has kill people Just as Wars, from ban on organ transplant which kill many before it was relaxed, to Ban on Blood fraction before it was relaxed , and to ban on stored blood recently relaxed, Many have died, you don't need gun to kill, the Bible said The tongue can be a Sword of death. Your GB by their utterances has gone to war with many souls and kill them untimely. NO PRoVE YET that this are people chosen by God

MaxInDHouse:
When it occurred in the first century Paul told our brothers in Corinth that those dying in large numbers is due to eating the emblem unworthily! 1Corinthans 11:27-30
Does that mean the Apostles and Elders who taught them about eating the emblem were not God's servants?

If they die, they won't influence anyone

Your publications said they didn't die, they are mentally Ill, and if that's the pool you choose leader's from , Doesn't that show that Some or all of them are mentally ill? Will God use mentally ill people to lead his people? Doesn't that explains the mistakes.

Good question!
God promised to use a group of men known as SPIRITUAL JEWS to gather obedient humans throughout the earth {Zechariah 8:23} and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have successfully achieved that so the fruit of Christianity that Jesus said we should look out for has been evident in the works of this men! Matthew 7:16-18

Do you know of any religion as in any you can think of that had helped their members globally to become so peaceful to the extent that they love their fellow believers as if something is tying them together like glue? John 13:34-35

Ọmọ there is enough evidence unless you don't believe in what Jesus said about his chosen brothers and what they will achieve during the last days.

No which love ?

See the attached screenshot, it's JW's literally confessing that there is lack of love in the congregation and most ar changing Congregation to find peace, Toxicity.

So which love exactly are you talking about ? Is it because your members ar not allowed to come to social media and share their toxic experiences?

Everything is covered up in the name of don't taint the organisation image

This is a F00lish point from you sorry, Still doesn't answer me : Where is the evidence that they ar chosen? Show me from Bible .

As regards their errors the Bible has foretold that during that time the sun will not give it's light by day neither the moon by night {Joel 2:31} so what will help faithful people during that time?

God's word answered:

Before the decree takes effect, Before the day passes by like chaff, Before the burning anger of Jehovah comes upon you, Before the day of Jehovah’s anger comes upon you, Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger. Zephaniah 2:2-3

So any arrogant person can't be saved because you will continue to question their authority but the wise ones who can see like EAGLES will gather around the Governing BODY! Luke 17:37🙂

Do we agree that some of those eating emblems from which you choose your leaders are Mentally Ill? With the regular mistakes showing they are not sound in mind, and the fAct we can't prove they are Chosen, everything you said here is dust

MaxInDHouse:
When God choose someone or a group to lead His people whatever mistakes they make will be corrected in due time but whoever opposes them is on his or her own.
That's God's standard from ages past.
So if you feel faith in God is too costly for you no one is forcing you to have faith!🙂

When the number of anointed started to grow in your religion, your publications said some of those eating the Emblems are Mentally ill. This is the pool from which u choose your GB members, Can God choose mentally ill people that make mistake to lead his people? You guys are not asking if some or all of those on your GB are part of this mentally ill?

What evidence do you have that they are chosen? In the case of Moses and the rest, they perform miracles, which evidence convince you that this men making mistakes are chosen?

iamL:
Normally.

And you guys should stop replying them there's no need. I mentioned him because I met him here as a brother and this will be the last.

Ignore them completely.

People died obeyin the previous direction, does it come from God if it turned out to be an error?

MaxInDHouse:
Honesty speaking i don't know o!

You said all these religions are scam.

Which means there is nothing serious to take home from all of them but now you are saying one is teaching heresy still.

Ọmọ does scamming have anything good at all to give you?😟

The former view of your Religion on blood was an error, how can you trust the new view? Can God sponsor falsehood? If God cannot sponsor falsehood, does that mean the GB only make things up?

Prosper1912:
The light keeps getting brighter

Not when people die for F00lish interpretation, people that would have been alive today .

Eccl 7:17 don't be a f00l, so you won't die before your time.

Prosper1912:
They want us to blend with them but bro no way, there are more with us than against us.

You are the one blending, The world has been keeping beard, your leaders just permit you to blend. The world has been taking autologous transfusion, they just permit you to do same. You are the one blending in

Courz:
And I am asking you again, in the midst of this worldwide embarrassment from your Freemason Governing Body, you think inviting someone to an occasion where the sacrifice of Christ is blatantly rejected, is the best move to make and you expect people with all this embarrassment covering you JWs with your image and reputation in the mud, you are expecting the person you invited to show up? No self awareness at all. Do you know where you are? Do you know what times we are in?

No self awareness

Janosky:
Nothing was revised, pls get your facts from the right source.

Explain this from Enjoy life forever book page 255