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Christianity Etc › Re: Re:Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed Part1 by frank317: 7:07pm On Feb 27, 2017
luvmijeje:
Okayyy.. .. ..... You're addressing the issue.

He cursed them. The curse led to the killing. Now that you've admitted that 42 boys jeering against the man of God was wrong. I'll admit Elisha should have had more controlled knowing the power he has on him but remember he's human. Imagine 42 boys running and jeering after you.
U made no reasonable point. The boys didnt deserve death because they insulted Elijah... Ur God should know this.

As a child my mum have cursed me at the point of frustration but she always reversed it immediately. That's why the fruits of the Spirit is hammered on in the church. A prophet should be slow to anger.
Your mum cursing u out of anger is different from this case. As a matter of fact, ur mums curses will not work, it's just words she said out of anger, they don't really work. Meanwhile this has nothing to do with topic at hand. Elijah fuked up... That's all that matters. He asked ur God to kill people's kids for mocking him and ur dumb God obeyed. That's barbaric and inhumane

The fact that u are even trying to defend something so barbaric makes me wonder the kind of person u are

Hello.. ... He created you. let's make use of an instance. As an Engineer you built some cars and you later destroyed it due to some malfunction, is it called genocide? God created you and he also has the right to decreate you since you're not useful to him.
As usual, u have nothing tangible to say. I really wonder why u opened this thread when u are will to admit God has right to kill. U can't impose such a God to us. It's just like boko haram telling me, the God who created me asked them to kill me for not being a Muslim.
No one has seen God... U cannot use some Jewish written texts to impose a killer God on me.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Advice For Atheist by frank317: 5:10pm On Feb 27, 2017
Oga calculator... Do u have epilepsy?
Christianity Etc › Re: My Advice For Atheist by frank317: 4:57pm On Feb 26, 2017
calculator123:
suppose your only child is about to die,knowing fully well that ur manhood can't work again? what would do?
See jamb question.
Why will a child just be about to die... It's either he is sick and in that case... He will take the child to the hospital ...
Christianity Etc › Re: My Advice For Atheist by frank317: 4:56pm On Feb 26, 2017
calculator123:
what do you do in a humanly helpless situation?
He does the same thing u do after praying... Stand up and work out a situation, face the situation, and hope for the best.

The Unfortunate thing about your case is that you would first of all waste productive time praying to an imaginary God and still get up to work things out yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Re:Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed Part1 by frank317: 8:21am On Feb 26, 2017
luvmijeje:
I'm very okay.
You?
Please next time address the message and not the messenger
Well, I must admit that it was disrespectful of those kids to laugh and mock test man, but I think it heartless to kill them for it. If you son who is 12 years laughs and mock an elderly man, so u think it is right for the man to take a knife and stab him?

Talking about the flood, God sets out to destroy the earth because of sin. He being ominieverything selected eight sinful families and destroyed the whole earth. That's genocide, he killed kids and pregnant women all because of sin. Yet the people he selected continued from where the people he killed stopped. What sort of project was that? Why kill so many people just to achieve nothing?

Recall if you are saying God is our creator and has the right to do anything, u are being hypocritical when u condem boko haram. If they believe that their God ask them to kill infidels, how is that different front accepting that your God should kill sinners?
Christianity Etc › Re: Re:Is God Really Worth Forgiving, Let's Take A Look At Crimes He Committed Part1 by frank317: 12:12am On Feb 26, 2017
luvmijeje:
Calm down...... . So much fury. I didn't rationalize anything. I responded with God's words. Isiah 44:26 says
That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:

Where there is no law, there's no crime. God have stated his law and he who does not abide should get ready for destruction. Who are you to tell the Potter, this how I want to you make me?

If you don't respect God that's your cup of tea but who are you to demean others that do?
The fact that u don't see this God as a mad psycho is appalling... And to think u created this thread to defend the irrationality of a supposed loving God?

U are even using his word to defend him... Are u okay?
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Reasons Why Religion Is A Scam by frank317: 12:06am On Feb 26, 2017
Thumbs up... Perfectly written
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:58pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:
Added to your slow reception is blindness also.... Just go abeg
I think at this time I should give up on u. U are both insensitive and unreasonable.

At this point the best thing I should tell u is fuk off.

Next time respect ur late mum
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:46pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:
I give up on you now. Hold on to your whatever u believe and I will hold on to mine.. Just let my mama rest in peace.
Of course I will... But just know that when u blame other people's death on personal reasons and karma... U are indirectly doing that to ur late mum and that is very very bad of u.

Go and sin no more.
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:43pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:
Mind your language, if u want to quote then be very reasonable with it choice of words. Can't u pass a simple message without vulgar words? Please don't quote me again if you are below 20
What vulgar word did he use? Please where did he use a vulgar word?

The worst part is that u don't even see how wicked and insensitive u sound yet u feel someone is vulgar just because he is trying to put ur insensitivity in line.
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:34pm On Feb 25, 2017
LiberaDeus:
Do you know how callous religion makes you sound?

A normal but mysterious biological process of death that occurs in every living organism whether good or bad as a result of so many factors has been reduced to karma or something personal by you.

So what did your mum do wrong to deserve death?

You guys will twist and turn just to defend rubbish.
A middle aged woman died simple, is that to hard to accept?
Must you cope with it by still trying to twist your warped doctrine thereby entertaining the possibility of her doing wrong that was deserving a painful death
My brother can u just imagine how these people think?

I am even baffled to see her call my arguments wack when am picking up my points directly from her quotes... She even says I am misquoting her and misunderstanding her when I am quoting directly from what she wrote.

If she thinks people's death is as a result of their personal life or karma, let's hear what she thinks of her late mum. Let's see how she would separate her mum's case from her selfish and insensitive believe.

I Just want to make her realize how her belief makes her sound insensitive about other people's misfortune and yet not relate it to her own case.
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:16pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:
Okay I already told you u were quoting me wrong just to make a point....i will refer you to the topic of discussion here, And then I was trying to tell him at times our prayers are not answered cos of our personal life . And at times ur prayer might still not be answered if such person is suffering karma.. Either ways death happened. I didn't generalize that people cos it's their fault.
I am truly sorry for bringing up ur mum again... But based on what I said above,why do u think ur mum died... Please ensure u relate it with ur statement above.

U mentioned that

1. (In red) at times our prayers are not answered (and people die) cos of our personal life...

2. (In bold) and at times our prayers might still not be answered (and people die) because such person is suffering from karma



So pls which of the above refers to the case of ur mum
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 8:49pm On Feb 25, 2017
Sexina851:
pls can u just stop quoting me ....ur arguments are wack if u.dont understand wat i was implying by karma den dats ur business.stop trying to prove d intelligence u dont have cos if u did have it den u would be able to assimilate a simple write up.since last week. And pls stay off my mums case cos it seems to me dat u dont have common sense, u just type watever makes u sound learned but sorry its one thing to be learned and its anoda thing to have common sense
Awwww... Fortunately, I didn't bring up ur mum in a public forum... U did and made nonsense of her death by saying she died out of her own personal fault. I did t say this.i just pointed it out in ur post. I was actually hurt by what u said and that was why I quoted u.

U said u lost ur mum But u however learnt that people die out of their own fault. U blamed death on karma and all that. I am sorry for the loss of ur mum, but I am more sorry that u lack the common sense to understand that it's not ur mums fault she died.

[quote author= Sexina851]Op I really understand ur feeling. I felt even worse when I lost my mom. I later understood dat it has a lot to do with one's personal life,[/quote]U said the above not me.
Christianity Etc › Re: To Christians From An Ex Pastor. by frank317: 8:32pm On Feb 25, 2017
AntiWailer:
So I hit reply button and the nonsense I see on Muslim posts is not here.

Seun will allow this against Christianity but block any post challenging the Muslim Faith

I am very sure Seun is a casual Muslim hiding under Atheism to attack Christianity

I tried to comment on a MUSLIM post, it asked me if I accept a Muslim creed like that. I said NO.

After I clicked NO that I am not a Muslim. NAIRALAND blocked me from ALL ISLAMIC RELATED POST.

This is crazy and I think Seun is hypocritical in handling these religions
Off point... At this stage, u rather call on ur so called God... The almighty father, the creator of the universe, the ominipresent and ominipotent, the unchangeable changer, the alpha and the omega , the beginning and the end, the one who rules the whole world, the every every, to come and change Seun's mind.

The only way u can prove ur God is real is to ask ur God to summon ur God to come to ur rescue or forever remain CRY CRY
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Mosquitoes? And What Are Their Advantages by frank317: 7:58pm On Feb 25, 2017
Zoharariel:
Mosquitoes play a huge role in our ecosystem. The larvae of mosquitoes live in water and provide food for fish & other wildlife, including larger larvae of other species such as dragonflies.

The larvae themselves eat microscopic organic matter in the water, helping to recycle it. Adult mosquitoes make up part of the diet of some insect-eating animals, such as birds, bats, adult dragonflies & spiders.

They also help pollinate some flowers, when they consume nectar.
Unfortunately, the Abrahamic God does not know this...Even Jesus didn't know mosquitos existed
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Mosquitoes? And What Are Their Advantages by frank317: 11:51am On Feb 25, 2017
seunlly:
go and die.
anti christ
Lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Mosquitoes? And What Are Their Advantages by frank317: 8:33am On Feb 25, 2017
seunlly:
God created them for some reasons which is not known to us. [color=#990000][/color]
U miraculously know that God created them but foolishly don't know why... So what's the function of just knowing that God created mosquito when u don't actually know why?
Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by frank317: 9:59am On Feb 24, 2017
LiberaDeus:
I dey tell you.

I was highly disappointed in ebuka when in found out he was a chosen member. I didn't even expect them to be able to use an online forum like NL.

Mr.Frank you haven't explained how you manage your beliefs in Nigeria
For me, in the real world, I am a highly argumentative person. not just about religion, I disagree with with anybody when ever I am not comfortable with the information he is passing across.

I am in my 30ies, working and living on my own. Used to fear my dad when I was young, he is a Watchman Pastor, but right now he knows I don't give a hoot about religion. All my siblings know this and tend to be angry with the knowledge, but I stand on my feet, unfortunately, I am doing well and help them out in times of need. They choose not to talk about it, but I always bring it up to piss them off. I don't like leaving arguments without winning.in my school days I even stopped a lecture process just to argue out a misconception with my lecture and i won. Honestly I don't argue on topics I know nothing about, so before arguing I already know my onions and so must win.
Had a heated argument with my dad on religion during xmas and left him dumbfounded.

I am outspoken and daring, my personality alone is challenging, most people find it difficult to confront me because I am always ready for them.

My fiance knows I am irreligious but does not know am atheistic. She is not very religious and already loves my honesty about my take in life. That's really what attracted her to me. She always sought for my logical advice.

I studied psychology, it tends to help me understand how to handle different people in different situation. I have seen people's reactions to my atheistic views but I always make sure I end up making them look foolish, and they hate that fact. So it's more like, "this guy think he is wise, rather than, this guy is a devil worshiper"

I have gone through shits in life, especially when I lost my first fiance to death. I just think nobody has the right to tell me how to handle my shit after surviving the pain of her loss alone, not even a dumb useless God can do that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by frank317: 12:27am On Feb 24, 2017
LiberaDeus:
My brother, sciencewatch and ebukasblog are two sides of one coin.

Implying that ebuka is smarter is too much of a compliment.

The only difference between them is that Sciencewatch is the most incoherent confused moniker whose posts are like merry go rounds. I have honestly tried to understand what that guy says and I have given up,

he starts his post like one on a journey to VI from Ikeja, he then diverts to apapa-oshodi then enters orile then comes out at costain then climbs eko bridge then connects to third mainland then goes straight to cms then turns back and finally lands at yaba grin grin

The guy na case, him and his stupid alternate moniker named Hond aka brave atheist.
If I had met these folks when I was a Christian I would have deconverted since 2008. Even xtians on this forum know that these guys are a freaking joke.
I often think sciencewatch is a mad man. He reminds me of all these so called messenger of God who wear long dirty suits with tired shoes with very big haggard Bible, dragging an over decorated truck with bold writings; the world will soon come to an end, REPENT!!
His alternate monicker HOND explains much about his personality. HOND talks about his father sleeping with his wife and being a brave atheists while he foolishly address atheists like his opponents, forgetting he created the handle to claim to be an atheist.
I often feel embarrassed for him.

As for Ebuka, just imagine him in that cheap dirty yellowish green choosen vest. U will understand that he is nothing near normal.i think all choosen people have mental problem... I wish Ebuka quick recovery
Christianity Etc › Re: Which NL Atheist Can Prove Their Mums Existence Is Not A Figment Of Their Mind? by frank317: 9:00pm On Feb 23, 2017
Blogthug:
Your DNA test has not been proven to NOT be a figment of your imagination either lol
What's ur point?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Taken To The Extreme by frank317: 7:20am On Feb 23, 2017
Ebiezprada:
Stopping me to preach atheism to me would really be a beauty because I don't allow religion create an obstacle for me.
The problem is.....in trying to show how superior they think atheism is, they don't have to abuse my right to a belief system.
How did atheists abuse ur right?

Why are u Turning blind eye to the abuses, threats and discrimination theists give to atheists every now and then, even in this thread?

Oga, atheists are just sharing their opinion just the way u think Christians are free to share theirs.

However abuses arises when arguments go badly. Theists abuse to, as u can see in the posts I quoted. The thread is biased.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which NL Atheist Can Prove Their Mums Existence Is Not A Figment Of Their Mind? by frank317: 4:43pm On Feb 22, 2017
soulpeppersoup:
Lol
You are funny.

By your explanation, those who have not seen nor touch your mum should not believe your mum exist. Some will argue that since their own mum exist, therefore your own mum must also exist.
It's really their business... If they want to speak with my mum they can come to me and I will show her to them... Well, if they have not seen her, they have every right to say she does not exist, for me, I am confident becasue of they really want, I will show them to her.

People who have seen and felt God can argue in the same line to the existence of God. That seeing a god (shrine or deity) is a proof of the existence of the Almighty.
Which people see God. My friend stop talking nonsense. No one have seen any God and u know it.

These are just limited intellectual exercise.

Every existence is expressed in experience. If you can experience it, it does exist.

But, every experience is first triggered by the one experiencing it.
Nothing like intellectual exercise, if u wanna see my mum I will show u... I want to see God, show me.

Experience is now seeing? Experience what? I didn't experience my mum... Hell, I can't even relegate my mum to just experience, that will b an insult.
Christianity Etc › Re: Just For The Atheist by frank317: 2:16pm On Feb 22, 2017
CriticMaestro:
from where did u come from, it aint polite to just dash into a long convo, whats wrong wif u? Nigerians sha
Abegi.. everyday spiritual, supernatural... Believing in nonsense, yet u are here using natural means to type this shit. Why don't u use any supernatural power u learnt all these while u believed in supernatural and communcate with us all right away.
Make we hear word jare
Christianity Etc › Re: Just For The Atheist by frank317: 7:59am On Feb 22, 2017
CriticMaestro:
are u against the christian God or all so called gods in general? what i'm trying to let u understand is that this people believed in the supernatural simple
So? If people believe in supernatural, will it change that price of garri in the market.
People can believe in red talking dog for all I care... The fact remains, they are not real and have no consequence to our daily life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 7:20am On Feb 22, 2017
Sexina851:
next time read clearly to assimilate,because there was nowhere In my response I told u people die because dey deserve it
This is ur quote below in case u have forgotten what u wrote

Sexina851: Op I really understand ur feeling. I felt even worse when I lost my mom. I later understood dat it has a lot to do with one's personal life, examine urself before u blame God, check out ur life and wat u do behind closed door wen u think no one is watching. Secret sins, unforgiveness, fornication etc will hinder prayers Dr. I won't way all on faith blah blah. The Bible already said "God is not mocked, whatever a man sow he shall reap". Even naturally there is a law of karma, and you know how it works. Look at me everybody has every right to question God cos we are humans and we feel, don't mind the "faith is in levels people".. Just search your life.dats all I can say..cos it's beta for one to die and discover there's no God Dan to die and discover otherwise
Read what u wrote, it implies that the dead is mostly to blame for their death. The most pitiful thing in ur post is that u even started by stating u lost u mum and was pained BUT later understood that it has much to DO WITH ONE'S PERSONAL LIFE. Dosent this imply that ur mums death has to do with her personal life? It's either u don't know how to express urself in writing, or u meant another thing while writing this shit.
How pathetic.
And went ahead to type all the following gibberish talking about karma and how people sow what they reap. And u still have the mouth to say I didn't read well. How else do u want to say people deserve their death?
U need to start respecting urself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Taken To The Extreme by frank317: 6:50am On Feb 22, 2017
honourhim:
You have time to waste writing to idiots whose opinion dont or shouldnt count in your life.
shurinz:
A foolish man thinket in his heart that there's no God.
@op
Read these comments by theists and read replies by atheists... I wish u can be open minded to see that ur op is just a misunderstanding.
You want atheists to be attacked by theists, u want them to tell us we are worthless and we will go to hell. U want them to call us fools but when we fight back, you open thread and ask us not to tell u ur God is inexistent.
Brace urself bro, u guys will get what u ask for in thousand folds. You like feeling percecuted, u like crying like kids when u look for trouble... U will get what u want.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Taken To The Extreme by frank317: 6:42am On Feb 22, 2017
Ebiezprada:
Dear Atheists, as much as you think you have a right not to believe in the existence of God (or a god) so do I also have the right to believe in the existence of God.
If you tell me that God doesn't exist, well...If I'm in a good mood I'll try to put up a little argument with proof to tell you that God exists and if I'm in a bad mood, I'll probably just walk away. But, you coming to tell me how foolish or how wrong it is of me to believe in God...That could be the source of a serious problem.
Basically, we don't exactly need religion to make the world a better place. If everyone loved their neighbors as themselves and showed kindness all the time even to strangers then the world would be much better than we can imagine.
Even as a Christian, I don't agree with every preacher and sometimes I keep religion aside when trying to solve some of life's challenges.
If you have a problem with any Christian or whosoever, face them squarely and address the issues as they come. Stop this abuse of people's religion and stop your generalising thing because it makes them actually feel bad and unhappy.
Being an ATHEIST doesn't make you better than others but practicing love and kindness can keep you high above even your supposed equals.
I believe a word is enough for the wise.
What exactly is the problem and what do u want? Have many atheists been stopping u recently to preach atheism to u and are they telling u that u are foolish for believing in God?
Christianity Etc › Re: I Feel Bad For My Unanswered Prayers ... by frank317: 5:49pm On Feb 21, 2017
EternalTruth:
okay can we hook up and have a private interaction huh?
U just de get admission and u de online de look for woman. Better concentrate on your studies. Or are you hoping for God to answer this lustful prayer?
Christianity Etc › Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 12:23pm On Feb 21, 2017
Sexina851:
did you do summary in school, if you did you should be able to dig out ur answer.
Smh... Next time think deeper before u talk.

Life is random. Bad things really don't happen to people because they deserve it. Bad things happen because life is random and people are careless. No one actually deserve to die, except the willed it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Which NL Atheist Can Prove Their Mums Existence Is Not A Figment Of Their Mind? by frank317: 11:06am On Feb 21, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Hw far?
Trying to contact but ur number is not going through... Hala at me with this number 08027410988
Christianity Etc › Praying For Buhari by frank317(op): 6:54am On Feb 21, 2017
Seriously, the way Nigerians think sometimes makes me wonder if they are mad. And to think that one common citizen in his room or village drinking garri and looking for how to survive thinks his prayer can save or kill the president.

Buhari is sick, accepted, but why are Nigerians suddenly forming superman, thinking we can, through prayer save or kill him.

Seriously, if we have this power Nigeria would not have been in this deadly recession. Buhari is sick and there is nothing our prayers can do about it. Lets just face the fact. He will either survive because his body can handle the sickness and he has taken proper medication or he would die because his body is too old and worn out. It has nothing to do with our foolish mumblings.

If Nigerians have the power to save or killl him, why haven't we used it to save our situation already? This delusion is becoming something else. I don talk my own.

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