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Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 10:38pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

Least : faith wise- he was the first to backslide. meaning he had little faith.
Prefects are meant to keep orderliness, yes, pastors are to groom newly converted ones but the job is not for pastors alone, the job is FOR EVERY BELIEVER. our main job as Christians is to go into the world, preach the gospel, heal the sick, raise the dead, win souls to Christ, DRAW MEN UNTO CHRIST, it's not the job of pastors only, it's for every true christian. we are all to groom newly converted ones and when we can't answer some of their questions, we are to seek the help of people we believe know more than us which can be anyone in Christ (be it pastor or anyone).

He said feed my flocks not because he wanted only him to go out there and win souls to Christ, rather knowing how week and "faith-less" peter was, he needed to let him know he wanted him to work. remember peter denied him 3 times before. its like a situation where you have 4 kids at home and you have one who doesn't listen to you all the time. when you want to leave,don't you specially warn that stubborn one?

Our great commission as Christians is to go into the world to preach the gospel, draw men unto Christ and it's not a job even to Peter or the 70 disciples alone, rather to as many that has received CHRIST!

Haba! Uncle/anty. Ahahn! Peter wasn't the first to backslide please re read your bible. When they came for Jesus in the garden didn't you read the part that some of his disciples ran away?! Then Peter bravely attacked his masters adversory. And followed @ a distance. Talking about backsliding? He wasn't the first to abandon/ deny knowing Jesus.

Secondly as a human being ones primary aim is not to preach the gospel. That's not why God created us. No! He created us to know him, to love him and then to serve him (service then includes propagating our knowledge of the eternal father to the world for conversion of souls). And like Paul did make several references to his way of life among the gentiles basically our way of life is supposed to facilitate peoples curiousity which the holy spirit would then use as a tool/window for conversion (we can't convert only God thru his spirit can). So bro/sis God primary aim for creating u a xtain is not 2 preach but 4 u 2 discover him first.

Peter was not faithless. How many people trusted Jesus enough to walk on water with him? How many trusted him enough to say 'to whom shall we go You have the message of eternal life'. How many where brave enough to attack his masters adversory? So how faithless and fearful was he?

And mind you Jesus flock that needs to be fed are not 'those who are outside the fold' that's not the flock. The 'flock' are souls within the fold. So jesus wasn't talking bout soul wining here
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 10:23pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

And who were the people he breathed on? did he separate them before breathing on them or he breathed on all the disciples present at that time?

Do not forget this verse " for as many that had received Christ, to them he's given the power to become the sons of God"

In once you are a christian, you have been given the power to cast out demons, heal the sick and raise the dead, it's all in what and how strong you become in Christ and how well you study the word of God.

You need no 'elderly' help then! You're equal and the bible does not know what it says when it talks about hirachy and referal methods.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 10:19pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

You should learn to read between the line, "elders" means people who are more vast than you. not popes, fathers, pastors e.t.c alone, anyone you feel is stronger than you (faith-wise)spiritually, if there's none and you feel your pastor is stronger, then fine, but Elders in the church has to do with brethren who are stronger than you spiritually. you don't expect me to take my issues to deacons, pastors or fathers that i know are not what they are because they are stronger spiritually, but because of influence, money or politics. (especially in this present Nigeria, God forbids)

Just like if you need help with pushing a car you cant push alone, you wouldn't call someone weaker than you, you definitely will call someone with your own strength or even stronger than you. that's the analogy!

I don't read btw the lines of the bible cos wat I want 2 know is wat the bible says not 'wat I think/want it to say'.

If you say 'elder' connotes anyone who is spiritually stronger then leme ask why on earth would u attend a church that u believe u're stronger than its leader? + ur interpretation of elder does not seem to conform with any existing interpretation. Cos even culturaly elder does not mean anyone better than u.

I'd like you know where this ur interpretation stems from tho.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 10:11pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

Orderliness. just as in a school, we have prefects, class captors and time keepers, they all are students but they are there to keep orders. same with pastors, they are there to keep orders, arrange the "flocks" and also help those whose faith is at the early stages. some members are more vast in the things of God than their fathers, pastors and bishops but they still have to have someone to organize the gathering.

Jesus blessed all his disciples equally but had some of them oversee the rest, not because they have more powers or that they are more "Christianed" than the rest, (infact peter was one of the least of Jesus's disciples when it comes to believe and faith), but because in the house of God and things of God, there must be orderliness.

Peter wasn't the least o! He was the one with the most common sense, he wasn't afraid to query Jesus and help the oda apostles get clarifications.

And prefects are not meant for orderliness. They are meant for teaching/grooming leadership skills. The teachers/ school officials are for orderliness and knowledge...

A pastor/priest is not a prefect. They are shepherds. They lead the flock with the principles of christ. Maybe you don't know their job descriptions.

If he blessed them equally like you claim how come he said peter! Peter!! Peter!!! Do you love me? Feed my flock? Why didn't he say everybody! Everybody!! Everybody!!! Do you love me feed my flock. And u still claim Peter had d same blessing to perform a very distinct job has the rest?
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 9:57pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

Some situations need more hands just like you can't push one car yourself so you ask for more hands so as to be able to push the car. this should help you. when your faith is not enough to move some situations, you join it with others.


You can call anybody 2 push ur car. But the bible says 'elders' not 'anybody' don't twist the bible.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 9:04pm On Oct 28, 2012
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Please send me an e-copy (maryschol@yahoo.com)wink
Religion / Re: How Is Your Church Ranked? by God4moi: 9:01pm On Oct 28, 2012
stankezzy: mistake most people are makeing is that every time they will be mentioning private jets.all these men of GoD they move around the world preaching the gospel which is a command given in the bible ,"go ye over the world and preach the gospel" do we expect them to treck to london or germany.the fact is that when you are important you will be needed and invited ,but when you are not important nobody invites you and how are you going to be important -by living a holy live.all these things about private jets are out of envy.

Eheheheheheh! American pastors need jets to come to africa to preach the gospel. Nigerian pastors need jet to gaan preach in America. Is it a different gospel these people are preaching? Ahahahahah!
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 8:55pm On Oct 28, 2012
Smartie gurl: Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter. Fear God nd keep his commandments. . . . . . .be u catholic or pentecostal.

And to add to it. If you're truly a xtain you'd be too busy fighting your way to God's throne than condeming others. Cos if you're truly holy your light will shine and you may draw people to God.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 8:50pm On Oct 28, 2012
jes7:

Can you give any example in the bible where Peter, Paul or any of the apostles forgave sins? Why did the bible say we should come boldly to the throne of grace that we might obtain mercy heb 4 vs 16? The throne of grace is a direct access to God through Jesus Christ the ONLY mediator between man and God. 1 Timothy 2 vs 5

Are you saying the Authourity Jesus gave was useless? Or that the apostles didn't use it?

Oga o!
Religion / Re: How Is Your Church Ranked? by God4moi: 8:44pm On Oct 28, 2012
pastormustwacc: If you must know, i was born into a strong catholic home, and i was even a mass server. I can read rosary and most of your prayers, and know a lot of your church doctrines.

But now, I neither follow catholic nor protestant. In fact, i dont believe christians should even go to church in the first place.
I dont believe christians should even pay tithes sef. And i have made threads on these stuffs.

I dont wish to distract the thread, i am just stating my opinions. If you see me as a lost soul - your problem, and not mine.

But i follow the teachings of Christ very closely in the bible - and i do fellowship with other believers, irrespective of their denominations.



You can 'read' the rosary shows you know nothing. They don't 'read rosary bro/sis

If you know the doctrines like you claim you won't be this confused.

You don't believe xtains should go to church cos you don't read your bible else you'd know that the bible says we should not forsake the gathering of brethren

Tithing is also bibilcal dear (your level of ignorance is jst becoming so pronounced)

There is no such thing as interdenominational. Cos all interdenominational follow a set of believes/doctrines.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 8:23pm On Oct 28, 2012
uy plus: Lookn up to Jesus da author n da finsher of my faith.. Nt lukn upto mary or saints..imagne sum1 teln me he intercedes thru mary wen Jesus said, I'm da way da truth n da light.. So, ow does mary cm into dt picture?? Sh wsnt da 1 dt saw da risen Jesus 1st, mary magdalene did!! If sh ws dt imprtnt as ya'll rant, y didn't Jesus call her 1st 2shw her he is risen??imagne sm1 on NL sayg mary wsnt born wit orignal sin.. U onli blv wot da scripture states n nt assssume 4GOD wot he shd hv done.. Mary ws jst a vessel, nufn more 2dt!!sh is neva and wld neva b worth da hype.. U go abt sayg da pope os infallible, buh I tel u, helll NO..in da ne covenant, we r all kings n priest.. Y confessss 2a human being??who is he??how can he forgv ma sins??as in??ds doctrine of da cathlcs is pure heresssy n fallacy!!

If you're really speaking the truths why have you avoided my queries?

Same you've not explained your understanding of the fluence 'just vessel' took @ the wedding @ canaan?? If the wooden tabernacle was precious I wonder what he taught of a woman in his own image and likeness. I'm sure he'll reward you for treating her with so much disdain.

She didn't see Jesus the day he rose. But safe what you read is the koran then I'm sure you'd know she was in the room on the day of pentecost.

Yes we are all priests. What I wonder is why you all are not pastors seating on the alter during ur various programs?

And as for the pope been infallible in matters of faith. O yes he is! And that's why your mushroom lies can't prevail against it.

The religious leaders of isreal said thesame to Jesus. How can he forgive sins he's the son of a carpenter!

Before you make another comment respond to my earlier queries. grin
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 8:07pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

These passage was for every believer and not to peter alone, you need the holy spirit asap.

Hmm. How come Paul recognised the Authourity of Peter since Jesus was speaking to every believer?
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 7:54pm On Oct 28, 2012
Matthais: Catholics give the most emphasis to the extra Biblical writings of the saints. They do not read the Bible. That was how many false theories entered the Roman Catholic denomination.

They are extrabiblical to you cos outa over 50,000 epistels, letters, and scrolls writen by early xtains you only have access to 54 so your knowledge is limited and that makes it understandable.

Incase you don't know there are 50 epistles and only 5 was collated to make the bible.

So when you read 5 accounts and I have 50 accounts to read and compare you'd say they are extra biblical and that's understandable. Your knowledge can only go as far as you know.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 7:47pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

confess to one another, meaning every true christian is qualified and not only the 'priests'. Secondly, we're all priests in christ and his representatives on earth. So i don't really see why only 'ordained' priest remain the only people catholics confess to.

True! But why do we need pastors?
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 7:42pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

point of correction, i'm a christian and not a protestant or any iesh like that.
John 20 spoke about how Jesus appeared to his disciples and breathed on them, gave all of the present the power to forgive and retain sin just as the way we all have the power to pray, rebuke and command situations to change. Every true christian is Christ's representation on earth and we all have been given the power to be sons of God. We're equal and one in one body. Confess to one another is a command for all true christians.

The leaders, elders you're talking about is not for forgiving sins, rather they're for situations you handled on your own but still remains like sickness, lack and wants. The bible's there bro, read not like a novel, ask the holy spirit for understanding na.

Why do these 'situations' remain if u're truly equal in xtainity?

Are the elders hoiler? Or why didn't he say call somebody or anyxtain?
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 7:34pm On Oct 28, 2012
Matthais: APOSTASY IS FORSAKING JESUS AND NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. IT IS JESUS WHO IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN AND NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OR MARY. JESUS SAID,"I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE". sad

Is dat wat your bible said?

Quote the part that states 'I am the 'only' way'.
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 2:29pm On Oct 28, 2012
uy plus:
Cn u constructively criticise whr I errred??I schld in a cath uni..

Schooling there doesn't mean you know anything bout their faith

got a lot of frnds who r cathlcs, n dey say ds n dat..buh I ask em questns 4clarifcatn, and dey alwys faulter..

Maybe they don't know much. You can't know everything when it comes catholic church. Cos over 2kyears of knowledge and writing is no joke!

mary ws jst a vesssel of honour unto God.

Yes. Correct! So was the wooden tabernacle of old testament which God took to himself or do you know where the tabernacle is?

ws sh a miracle workr??NO!!..

No. She only facilitated the working of a miracle.

imagne teln me da bible ws written by cathlcs, wen da bible stated dt in the beginin ws da Word, n da Word ws wit God n da Word ws God.. Did da bible say da Word ws wit cathlcs??

The bible was not writen by the catholic. It was only compiled. The catholic church studied all the scrolls and letters and decided which books should be arranged how and which ones formed the bible. They binded it together and gave it to the world. (They also have custody to all the other letters, epistles, and scrolls that they didn't select or think should be in the bible)

Smh 4u folks.. Hope ur eyes gt wide open so u cn embrace da truth whole heartedly..stop goin to priest 2confesss, it is wrng!!

But Jesus said they should confess so on whose authourity do you speak?

u goto meeeet ur pastor 2jst agreeee wit u in pryrs, cos da bible said, wen 2 or 3r gatherd in hs name,

Why can't the other person be your friend or family member? Are they all pagans too?

he is der.. It shdnt b a routine thn...wen u feeeel u'v got a weak spirit, run 2a spiritual head 2agreee wit u in pryrs, nt confesss sins 2hm.. Is he God?

'A spiritual head' or 'your spiritual head' any spiritual head could be dangerous o!
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 2:05pm On Oct 28, 2012
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uy plus: 4nnny sets of ppl called catholcs..burnin incense lik pagans,

Read your bible old and new testament. ' The pray of the saints shall rise to God's throne like an incense'

prayg repeated pryrs,

They don't each decade is different from the others. Not like you who does vocal prayer on thesame petition over and over again

countn rosaries

They don't 'count' rosary. They pray the rosary.

n wearn scapulars 4protectn,

Its the prayer that's for protection not the object

so dey say, blvn in saints dt neva existed n honourn em(in their wrds),

You obviously know nothing. But I'm sure even your church celebrate valentine's day. Smh.

prayg thru mary n adore her,

Read your bible the wedding @ canaana mary interceeded on behalf of the couple.

buildn statues n cryg on statues, kpn pryr request lik sh's omnipresent.and I 1da if allcathlcs pray thru her at 12pm worldwide,

You're still on the wondering level and you speak with so much authourity as if you know something when you don't even have a clue?

who wld sh listen to 1st?is sh omnipresent, omnipotent or omniscient?.onli God is.den dey nw tel u da pope is infallible!!

In matters of religion and faith he is and that's what excathedral means and that's why the church do not change her stand and has endured over 2,000years.

Wot a blv..whr did God eva say ders a man amongst u who is sinless..
Your religion practise sinlessness. But that does not exist in the catholic church and since you are still wondering I understand your level of ignorance

Maybe Catholiscm is pure idolatry..blvn in wot da bible neva stated..

You're still wondering.

Imagne a catholc frnd tryg 2convinc me dt mary ascended 2heaven? Fallacy, n heressy!

Did she descend into hell?
Religion / Re: How Is Your Church Ranked? by God4moi: 1:46pm On Oct 28, 2012
frosbel:
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Outa love they carried him. How many jets and bullet proof jeeps does he have?

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Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 1:20pm On Oct 28, 2012
ijawkid:

And my answer is NO they don't.......

Are you satisfied??......

I'm not an idolater you hear me?

I have no dealings with images or any religious carvings..


Thank you..

You can keep worshipping the cross and marys image..

Gibberish!!

Neither do you have anything in form of possesion or relationships that you adore?

Don't lie oh! Even the hoilest of us is like a filthy rage in God's presence. So your weakeness is your idol you don't have to display it before God can dectect what your idol is oh! grin shocked
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 1:01pm On Oct 28, 2012
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Super1759: this is one rubbish I detest. I was born into a catholic family,I read my bible and condemned the trash.
1) I confess my sins to a man ,yet I pray to a God to bless me and guide me.if God can hear my prayers and bless me.why I should I go to man to tell my sins?

2) We are all human, and equal before God,if u like be d holiest. so d man am confessing my sins to,who does he confess his own to?


3) When you are born again,God gives you the holyspirit,meaning you have equal acces to the mercy seat. meaning I can boldly speak to God as my father and not a church leader.(The church leader is like a shephard,to win souls and guide the sheeps from falling astray)


4)The same power jesus gave his disciples and blessings..(Any sin you forgive is forgiven...u shall trample upon scorpions they won't harm...anything you command,in my name it is down..I have given you powers over all....) We all have same authorities,onces you believe in Jesus and born again,so when I sin,I confess to God,who gave me the authority not to my fellow man with thesame authority,so how do I know the person am confessing to is clean?

Ever since I grew into a man and read the bible with the help of the spirit,so many churches still practise irrelevant practises and because we are born into it,we believe it. Like I said here,I was born into a catholic home,my dad left because he saw most things they do as not inline with biblical doctrine.I grew up and now understand all that. Its high time we understand what we do,not just because our parents are there.
Pastors can counsel you and pray for you ( the bible sais,is anyone sick,let him meet the elders of the church)


If everyone was equal why did Jesus treate people differently. He had the 72 then the 12 then the 3 the his 'beloved'. Hmm equal indeed

Why would you need the guidiance of your equal if you're truly equal? Did Jesus say its the responsibility of the elders to preach the gospel and guide the sheep?

So why didn't Jesus say the sick person and his family should pray for themselves and they'll be healed? Why did he specifically say ' call elders'

You're confused bro!
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 12:51pm On Oct 28, 2012
battnis: please u guys shuld stop mis-qoutin d Word.....always speak less than u know.
according to 2 peter 3:18 But grow in grace,and in d knowledge of our lord &saviour Jesus christ.To him be glory both now and for ever.Amen.
We are no longer living under the law cos if any man be in christ he is a new creature...psalm 82:6 also made it clear to us that "ye are gods;and all of you are children of the most high".Been a child of God is jst bn a co-heir to d throne,u can tap directly from d living source.The word also state clearly dat we shuld"come boldly to the throne of mercy" & also "come now,and let us reason together,saith the lord:though your sins be as scarlet,they shall be as white as snow;though they be red like crimson,they shall be as wool.
goin 2 a priest 4 confession of ones sin is absolutely wrong bcus we ar 2 reason wit God nt men.

I hope your pastor chases away everyone that comes to him cos they have guilty conciense.

But if they do counselling in your religion then you're jst an attention seeking hypocrite. tongue
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 12:44pm On Oct 28, 2012
Debbie.o:
Well speaking from facts and what I was told when I was a catholic, whta I noticed firstly about Catholics (even when we r all christains n no offends) is that they r always quick to defend themselves, without actually thinking it through) u have the bible yet u refuse to open ur eyes n see for your selves.back then when I was a catholic I was told, we confess our sins to the priest and he in turn, prays to God on our behalf.what ever happened to the passage of the bible that says,I am the way, the truth and the light, no one comes to the father accept through me.besides after confession, u will b told by the priest to say (it depends on ur sins though) 10 hail marys, 5 our father n 3 glory be to the father, prayer.bck then I rember in my hrt am lk, is that all, hummm.well bt thank God for the bible o.I read passages my self before I was convicted to leave.may God give u d eyes of understanding.I rest my case

Amen to your prayers. But you seem to shy away from all the bible verses sited where confession was instructed.

Hmm do I sense you know half truths? And as for your quote of jesus been the way the truth and the life. Did he also say I'm the 'only' way, 'only' truth and 'only' life. Or do you think he ommited the 'only'?
Religion / Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by God4moi: 12:31pm On Oct 28, 2012
honeric01:

Did you check the bolded too? why should it be the priest and not to anyone else?

O boy read your bible properly jor. What was the first reference? ' Elders of the church' not just anybody the entire reference of 'one another' still refers to elders. And in the catholic setting that falls under the jurisdiction of the priest, bishops...

As a 'protestant' your elders may be your pastors and deacons and ...
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 11:43am On Oct 28, 2012
ijawkid:

Sorrry you are talking to the wrong person...

I don't do all you listed .......

I don't believe in the healings of today....all those holy water gibberish and olive oil I detest......


I don't wear religious t-shirts ,I wear white plain shirts...lol.....

I don't have any images around me when I worship.....

And mind you I don't advertise any man of God,I advertise Gods kingdom...

And there he/she goes again. Sigh. Read my comment dear and understand before you respond. 'You' wasn't used in the context of my comment as a 'noun' I personified your religious practises and this was obvious when I stated that 'don't your religious leaders advertise by using their personal pic'.

Since you keep misunderstanding/misquoting/misjudging my simple comments, I can no longer take your understanding of God's words seriously as you have consitently shown lack of 'understanding' which is one of the fruits of the holy spirit.

'By their fruits you shall know them' tongue
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 11:37am On Oct 28, 2012
truthislight:

na way for you o!

Dont you know that a slave should be in fear/respect its master?

Isn't it funny that you chose the reported speech of your friend over the actual speech?

Oga o! Smh.

You people sha enjoy/are more comfortable with distorted versions to reality. How pitiful.
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 7:13pm On Oct 27, 2012
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Go and ask your Pope.

If you don't share the opinion of God Almighty, then you share with the devil. You can't serve two masters at a time. Didn't they teach you that one?

Google that quote and see other comments he made.


The Pope has appeared in public to say the remarks he made about Islam which sparked fury across the Muslim world did not in any way reflect his personal views.
Benedict XVI had been under pressure to make a personal apology following a controversial speech he made in Germany on Tuesday.
In the Somalian capital Mogadishu an Italian nun was attacked and killed by gunmen. Sources said there was a very high possibility the incident was linked to the speech.
The Pope told a crowd at his summer retreat at Castle Gandolfo, ltaly, he was "very upset and sorry" his remarks had caused such a reaction.
"This was a citation from a medieval text which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion," he said.
He said the speech had been an "invitation to... frank and sincere dialogue".
In it, he referred to criticism of the Prophet Mohammed by a 14th-century Byzantine emperor.
The passage said everything Mohammed brought was evil "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".
Using the terms "jihad" and "holy war", the Pope said violence was "incompatible with the nature of God".
Initially Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said the apology was sufficient.
"We consider that the new statements represent a retreat from what went before. We can consider them a sufficient apology, even if we had wanted the Pope to outline his ideas and vision of Islam," said deputy leader Mohammed Habib.
However, later the brotherhood appeared to change its mind and said the Pope had not made a "clear" apology.
The Muslim Council of Britain welcomed the Pope's explanation.

A spokesman said: "We very much welcome the Pope's statement in which he made it clear that his own views do not in any way accord with those of the 14th century emperor.

"This is a very important clarification that we had been seeking. Had this caveat been included in the Pope's original speech it may have prevented this controversy in the first place."
Demonstrations by Muslims around the world saw effigies of the Pope burned and threw doubt over the his planned visit to Turkey in November, with the country's Prime Minister insisting the comments must be withdrawn.
It was also revealed the national security level in Italy had been stepped up in the wake of threats to the pontiff from Islamic groups.

(the Pope said violence was "incompatible with the nature of God".)

Its you who made the statement o!.

And if you're saying muslims are the devil. My next question is where is it writen in the bible. grin
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 6:40pm On Oct 27, 2012
plappville:

You' re missing it man, i am no longer hocked with Pagan doctrines, it seems u do not understand!

So what are your doctrines?

Do you worship/gather on sabaths? There's only one sect who does that. So if you're not a sabatarian you're guilty safe you can explain your reason for Sun-day worship wink
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 6:37pm On Oct 27, 2012
Boomark:

I smell you are an atheist! tongue

Or is catholic atheistic in nature?

Nailed! No commnt?
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 6:34pm On Oct 27, 2012
Boomark: Some of you might have made the exact image of one the thieves and have been bowing to it because you don't know the exact image of Christ. And Christ will not be happy with that.

Those saying the cross is the symbol of their salvation should be ashamed of themselves. Christ is not the only person that has been nailed on a cross/stake/tree. More thieves and sinners have tasted the cross before then. Read De 21:22-23 where the law was given.

And that is the exact reason the Lord chose the cross on which to die. Cos its for sinners like the thieves and not saints. He came to conquer and give a public display of disgrace cool. Either you accept it or not he chose the cross. And without his death he can't ressurect and without ressurection there's no hope and without hope there's no xtainity.

So get over yourself. The basis of xtianity is that sinnful cross on which a sinnless man died to deliver us from our misery. tongue
Religion / Re: Roman Catholicism And Cultism by God4moi: 6:25pm On Oct 27, 2012
plappville: According to your believe that the Catholic chosed what to and what not to be true in the word of God, see what Christ say in Revelation. God has consistantly preserved His word even before the new convenant.

REVELATION 22:18-19 -- “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book

I hope you understand this?

Sigh! Your level of misunderstanding is alarming. Please re read my comments. Maybe u'd understand. If the new testatment says the whole writing material in the world cannot contain their testament and here you have about 54 books that makes up the bible you carry around my dear what makes you think you have better access to someone who has over 50,000 books talking about the same thing?

And if you have sooo misquoted and understood my few lines right here, there's no need for me to make comments about your understanding of the good book. angry
Religion / Re: Paganism And Catholicism: Sun Worship Symbols by God4moi: 6:09pm On Oct 27, 2012
ijawkid:

God commanded them,...let me be emphatic...God"" COMMANDED"" them to look up the bronze serpent.........

Who commanded you to use the cross in worship or marys image??

who gave the command in your case??

I must say this is the first real question you're asking.

I'll make your answer really simple. Who command you to bless water to use for healing or other activities? Who gave you the command to wear your religion crested tee, hand band, lapel... Who commanded you/religious leaders to use their photos to advertise the religion are these all in you version(s) of the bible?

Now don't you go saying but we don't bow to them. Huh! Huh! You revere them enough to wear them and paste it in your homes, on ur vehicles...

So I smell idolatry?! Hmm. tongue

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