₦airaland Forum

MaziObinnaokija:
oga PSP.Tell us who to vote for.Is it that GBAJUE that wrecked my state ans gave the yoots there HERO 🍺 🍻 🍺/that onw that talk say he'll make his friends RICH we should vote for?

Please who is "Gbajue"? Until I know who is he, then you now deserve my response. I only engage intellectual people and not those that throw insults like touts and thugs.

Tjra:
When opposition join APC, it is Tinubu cornering them. But when they join ADC or NDC, it it because they want a better Nigeria. You people ehn

Sorry young man, I am not a NDC member, carry your frustration to one corner and rest jejely.
Mr. Man, Abacha did worst than this by cornering all the political parties in existence then but what was the result? Read history, it meant to sharpens us. Only a political party that would have over 30 governors and many legislators but still fidgeting and unstable. They should not allow oppositions to breathe, the hungry and angry masses will show them sege during elections.

dgr8truth:
In my opinion, this type of political protest is counterproductive and does little to advance our democracy. We must be careful not to normalise a political culture in which the removal of an elected president becomes a recurring demand outside the established constitutional process simply because people are dissatisfied with his performance.

In a democracy, citizens have every right to express their grievances, criticise the government, and organise peaceful protests. However, we must also recognise that the most effective and constructive way to hold elected leaders accountable is through the ballot box, sustained civic engagement, and the mobilisation of support for alternative candidates who offer better policies and a more convincing vision for the country.

Our politics should be about persuading voters, presenting credible alternatives, and strengthening democratic institutions, rather than encouraging a culture of perpetual agitation for the removal of elected leaders. We should be working to elevate our political discourse, not reduce it to endless protests and slogans.

Nigerians are understandably frustrated by the country's challenges, but our response should help strengthen democracy, not undermine public confidence in the electoral process. We can express our dissatisfaction firmly without losing sight of the constitutional and democratic principles that ought to guide us.

Let me take you on, in your second paragraph you made mentioned very serious issue, let me quote you verbatim.
"However, we must also recognise that the most effective and constructive way to hold elected leaders accountable is through the ballot box, sustained civic engagement, and the mobilisation of support for alternative candidates who offer better policies and a more convincing vision for the country".

By your submission above, you only mean the only way to hold leaders accountable is through the ballot. Let me ask you, is it when a leader is voted out that you subject him to accountability? Ballot only gives citizens right to only reinforce leadership or change leadership and not a medium to hold them to account at all. You can only hold them to account when you engage them in a lawful manner. Protest is a lawful engagement and is not today that people protest for the ousting of leaders all over the world. They did it for Jonathan and even carry casket for his removal.

Poverty has spread like wild fire since Tinubu assume office. On PDP not having presidential candidate. Wike has sold the ticket to Tinubu and APC because of his personal ambition. The blind is aware and the deaf is aware. The man brought his Lagos bad politics to the national level by cornering everything to himself, including some oppositions. But one thing is sure, God pass him and he will show himself to him, the way he always do to harden leaders.

Vision101:
Tell me what action that is higher in dealing with corruption in this country than the destruction of hills of corruption in subsidy scam and fx arbitrage? If you know how many wealthy people that have been hit by these actions then you will thank God that PBAT came at this time. That's why many presidents avoided these.

His removal of subsidy never deal with those sabotaging the system but only past the problem to the citizens to suffer it young man. While is it difficult for our leaders to arrest and prosecute rich offenders but flex muscles on the poor on the street.
Do you know that Tinubu's government still indirectly paying to cushion the effect of rise in fuel price but in a subtle way. Many people have said it but they are mute about it till date.
If I may also ask, what kept our refineries till date not working? You remember few months ago, his government paraded loaded vehicles at porthacourt refinery, what happen to that refinery today? Young man, Tinubu government know what they are doing. Just punishing the masses and nothing less.

PigTormentor:
No one is following a bandwagon more than Obidients especially those that called Obi a failure while he was Governor but all of a sudden now see him as their messiah all because of desperation for Igbo presidency.

No governor in this country that people doesn't castigate, including Tinubu. Festus Keyamo was among those castigating Tinubu when he was a governor but today who is praising him and attacking people because of him. If you call their backing of him a desperation, then, what will you call the ambition of Tinubu? A sincere one. You must be high in india helm, if you say so. If where there is love and sincerity, Yoruba and the south south suppose to rally in favour of the Igbo candidacy because Yoruba and the south south had tasted the position before in OBJ and Jonathan. So, if you're calling it desperation, it means you're not sincere and untruthful and also hateful towards them. They deserve to vote their person as they've shown love to other region before by voting massively for OBJ, Yara'dua, Jonathan and even Atiku when their own were also on the ballot. Ojukwu was on the ballot and they voted OBJ. Orji Kalu was on the ballot and they massively voted Yara'dua. So calling it desperation is half truth and insincerity on your part. They wholly deserve to rally round their own this time as they cannot continue to be second fiddle in their own country. Hence, better for them to waste their votes in doing what is best for them than wrongly doing what their conscience didn't dictate.
Who is more desperate if not Tinubu and his gang of desperados in APC. With his woeful administration that has plucked the country to be world poverty capital and still desperate to go for second term, even when his health is failing him.

Tell him to his face he is a liar. It's part of politics.

ElSudani:
Well, I guess you know better than the likes of Okonjo Iweala, Sanusi Lamido and Dr. Akinwumi Adesina, just to mention a few.

All of them are wrong. And I did said it when Tinubu removed the subsidy in 2023 on pms. Our country is fuel dependent. Anything that affect oil, affect every goods and services. For good 8 years, they were telling PMB to remove subsidy but he refused and intentionally kept Its removal till the end of his tenure. He knew the impart of removing it on the citizens, that was why he never removed it till he left. If he was active as he was in the 80s, he would have cracked down heavily on the saboteurs but age failed him. And that part of what is affecting Tinubu but their personal ambitions they made supersedes national interests. Instead of them to sponsor effective people that are still vibrant and can deliver, they just want to enjoy the perk of the presidency at the detriment of the nation.

ElSudani:
Madness is when you use your scarce dollars to import something like fuel and then sell it as a loss year after year. There's no other way to look at it.
Some people got rich from it but most Nigerians only got economic stagnation, unemployment and hunger.

This country can never move forward with your kind theory of not killing the cancer that is killing the oil sector, which is corruption but just wished to transfer the burden to the citizens to bear. Every serious leader looked into issue and proffer solution that would not compound the already tense situation. This is what you people are missing.

PigTormentor:
It's your God given and constitutionally guaranteed right to waste your votes again in 2027.
That's your problem, not ours.

It's better to waste vote in doing the right thing than to join the bandwagon in doing the wrong thing. Let them waste their votes by doing what their conscience told them to do, it's never your business. At least those of you that doesn't waste your votes in 2023, we've seen the results.

ElSudani:
The issue which most of you are not willing to acknowledge is that Nigeria could no longer afford it even if the government wanted to continue. There was no more money to pay for it. We've borrowed, we've sold our crude oil years ahead and nobody was willing to lend us money anymore.
Where do you go from there? It was sure economic meltdown if nothing was done.

This is the same mentality that those in government are carrying and getting it all wrong.
Let the corruption in the oil sector be killed. Arrest those shortchanging the system.
Make refineries work and empower modular refineries with adequate monitoring.
So you know then, that they would bring 30 cargoes and around 10 would be delivered. What happened to the rest? Diverted.
What happened to those that diverted the fuel? Nothing and the government will still pay for it.
Now, because government reneged on her responsibility, it must be transfer to the citizens.
Let the corruption be killed and let the system work.

ElSudani:
Most of you don't know how governments use subsidy to help the economy. Take milk for example.
In one country that I know where the farmers were not making money producing milk the government in order to keep them producing and make sure citizens will get their milk whenever they want deviced a system.
The system is like a quota given to each farmer, you cannot produce more than a certain amount of milk but you are guaranteed to get paid for your quota.
This system is controlled by a commission set up by the government.
This is a form of subsidy, the type we should be asking for, not burning a huge percentage of your revenue away without getting anything back.
It is a tragedy the fuel subsidy lasted for as long as it did.

My brother, first check the meaning of subsidy before you confuse yourself please.
Governments all over the world subsidy goods that they know that are of importance to their citizens and can affect their purchasing power due to its incessant increase. The government come in and give rebate that would be paid for every item.
In your analysis above, a reasonable farmer need not wait for government to control what to produce. I am a farmer, I know what to produce at every seasons to fetch me money and not to run at lost.
Subsidy is a common policy all over the world please.

ElSudani:
No, Obasanjo actually started the fuel subsidy waste back in 1977 as the military head of state. I don't think you were born then anyway.
Think of all the roads, all the hospitals, all the world class universities, all the power plants, all the investment that could have been made.
All gone up in smoke.
Tinubu is the remedy not the cause of your problems.

Tinubu is the cause of everyone that their purchasing power have been lowered because the removal of subsidy on fuel which all goods and services dependent on, as the nation is oil dependent, as every increase in the fuel, there is corresponding increase in everything, including the smallest items. Today hardly can you see item of N5 or N10. But before subsidy was removed, you can see sweat of N5 or N10.
Tinubu has not come to remedy anything but to throw the nation into world poverty capital and debts. See the amount of debt he has incurred in less than 4 years of his regime cum the accruals from the subsidy removal and you ask, what is the benefit of subsidy removal when debts are still skyrocketing.
Until the needful is done by killing or minimally reducing corruption plaguing the oil sector, we will continue going in reverse gear.
Tinubu just came to punish the downtrodden and nothing more.

ElSudani:
My take is that folks like you don't realize how close Nigeria was to bankruptcy or you know but wouldn't admit it because of partisanship or some other parochial reasons.

The bankruptcy was caused by corruption and not because government offered subsidy to her citizens. Nations around the world give subsidy on specific items to cushion effect of high price that will adversely affect their citizens. It's never a new policy all over the world. But our own government virtually seized everything and put her citizens to penury. Mr. Man, no serious leaders do that. They consider the adverse effects and many at times review their reforms. Or are reforms not meant for the citizens? If the reform is affecting the citizens you're doing it for, common sense dictate you should soften the belt and restrategize. Presently the number that have been below the poverty line, you know what it would take to lift them out? That's why a leader must be sensitive to the plight of his people and not adamant.
Our problem is not subsidy itself but the corruption that have eaten deep into the system. Some people are even saying if the price of fuel is reduced, people we smuggle it across borders. That words alone is an indictment on the part of the government. It means they cannot safely police their borders and telling the world our borders are porous.
We have leaders that only think of themselves but refused to think of the lower cadre that their reforms are bitting and beating.

PigTormentor:
Your Agulu packaged fraudster did more rigging than any other candidate during the last election.

Election was conducted in 2023 but one quack study came out December, 2025. What a mystery!
Well, we shall confirm that in 2027 if they truly rigged. Mr. Man, Igbo people will still massively vote for Obi without rigging because they love him.

frog12:
na this man say last election will be he best. well computerised. he was on Arise everyday.
at the end, INEC no use BVAS.
this man na deceiver. make EFCC check him bank account well well

Mike Oginj wasn't the INEC chairman. If he says anything, the final decision lies in the hand of the chairman.
Ask Akpabio what he did to him in 2015. Google the story and be informed. If the man is the head of INEC, thing might be better with his approach to free and fair competition.

All APC rigging macenery must be bursted before the next elections. Enough is enough. The Egyptians you see today, you shall see them no more. APC is an affliction sent to this country and empowered by blind supporters.

onuman:
They never knew Atiku would come down heavily on Tinubu. They saw Atiku as still APC member.
Immediately after Tinubu was sworn in as president of Nigeria, Tinubu people started to demonize Peter Obi 24/7 in preparation for 2027 polls.
They least expected Atiku would give them bitter pills months to the 2027 presidential election.

The oppositions need to rally themselves together to oust this devilish government that take pleasure in the suffering of the citizens. Affliction shall not rise the second time. Tinubu government has become an affliction to hungry and straightforward thinking Nigerians.

Vision101:
See your warped comparison. London is reacting to effects of negative actions on the global economy. Tinubu is reacting to the combined effects of decades of economic structural defects and negative actions on the global economy.

As an expert would you use the same prescriptions? The sicknesses are different. This is why people like you don't understand what Tinubu is doing.

If he is reacting to the structural economy, he should have focus in killing the endemic corruption in the oil sector rather than transferring their inadequacies to the citizens. Our problem is never the subsidy itself but the embedded corruption that each government have refused to tackle head-on.
You don't put citizens to untold hardship because you wished to dance unpopular reform. The Tinubu reforms are anti people and had plucked the country to world poverty capital.
Let us call a spade by its name and stop calling it a spoon. Yes, it looks like but they serve different purposes.

SonOfDSoil01:
Atiku, Tinubu go still humble you come 2027 we can see the fight between 2 political heavyweights……who else noticed that, Tinubu as never given any attention to bitter obi the content creator, in his desperate attempt to be noticed by Tinubu yet remained ignored because, he is a featherweight, unlike Atiku he considered as a worthy competitor yet some clowns what to make us believe such a content creator is a threat to Tinubu presidency? abeg, shoe get size

This thread is between Tinubu and Atiku but in your characteristic manner you still find way of crawling Obi in because you dread him the most.
Meanwhile, I will never reply you on this thread if your comment doesn't focus on the thread topic. Know this and be at peace because the rule of the forum is don't derail thread. That's how some of you fail simple exam.

emkz:
After more than six presidential aspirations, Atiku is fatigued. He doesn't even have the strength to plan a campaign. He is selling dummies. The latest was a claim by Timi Frank and von Batten that they wanted to murder him.

Atiku, campaign on issues and leave all these talk about murder and Egypt alone.

If you lose in 2027, blame yourself and your lack of strategy.

It is too glaring.

Young man, did you read the piece at all. It's all part of his campaign because he finally reel out what he will do pertaining the subsidy. It wasn't a blanket attack, he also made mentioned of his plan on the subsidy.
Please learn to read and assimilate, as to avoid this kind reply from you.

ElSudani:
Atiku is coming to the grim realization that he will never be president of Nigeria, hence the personal attacks on the perceived obstacle.
No to burning away our future development in the name of fuel subsidy.
No to the same folks who kept Nigerians under the illusion that things were alright when they knew we were heading for the cliffs.

Even if he doesn't become president, he is speaking the reality or do you wished to tell us that citizens are not suffering?
No serious government doing any reform and the reform is dipping more than half of the population into poverty and penury, common sense dictate that such leader need to review the reform to meet the needs of the people the reform aimed to benefit. You can't be so adamant in any reform why millions of your citizens are wallowing in poverty. It makes no sense. You know how much it would take to left those below the poverty line out, then, you now ask, what is the essence of the reform?

helinues:
Lol..We shall see who is the noise makers by January

Thankfully you're been hit by the economy reality but because of blind support, the next generation doesn't matter to you. I know your APC have perfected how they will rig the election but be soon of one thing no one pass God. You can't play God and still remain the same. Go to Bible and read the story of Pharaoh and his army as Atiku tried to portray in his piece. Everything has expiry date.

MemphitzDgreat1:
"Due to high cost of living, Londoners will receive 15 pounds 45 pence per hour to reflect the current economic realities" - Sadiq Khan (Mayor of London).

Meanwhile in Nigeria, useless Tinubu says he understands the pains Nigerians are going through but there is no other way out of the sufferings. Yet, he and other politicians are spending billions to campaign for re-election, in addition to travelling abroad for holidays. May Nigerians not remain stupid. Amen

Amen

dequir:
I will only vote for Soludo.

Obi, no way.

But Soludo is not contesting, don't be smart by half. You know who your heart go for and that is not a sin, as it is your fundamental right to support who you like but don't label another unjustly.

dequir:
Who told you I voted the man you are referring to? All of them are ROGUES and POLITHIEFCIANS. I no dey vote for rogues.

All cannot be rogues. We all know those that are rogues but only pretending to ourselves because of politics. No doubt no man is perfect but some are fairly better.

dequir:
Tufiakwa! I no dey vote rogues.

But you've been doing that by voting a man that attended school not existing, that no one know his family background. People are still looking for the primary school he claimed he attended in Ibadan till date and you say you don't vote rogue. You've been voting rogue my brother.

Davpee:
Some pastors are wicked than the devil

Anyone can bear the nomenclature of pasto, there's no sin about it. Remember that some people even attach doctor to their names, no law forbid such. That you hang the pastor nomenclature doesn't shield you away from wickedness especially when you find your way into leadership position in this our contemporary world.

dequir:
Vote who wisely in 2027?

Vote Obi wisely.

Someone said this yesterday, that how would Tinubu make a tax expert as minister for finance, that all he would think about is tax and more tax.
It's only in Nigeria that government tax poverty. Instead of bringing people out of poverty, they are dipping more into it. No wonder the number of people living in poverty is increasing daily by records.
Nigerians tight your belt if this man Tinubu mistakenly wins next year presidential election, he will tax your heart and bile out of your life. This government about improving the lives of the citizens but out to smoke hell out of their lives. This is ogun afowofa. We caused it by ourselves because we allowed him to force himself on us by emilokan rhetoric. Nation chose their leaders but we allowed this one to force himself on the country.

fredoooooo:
Go back to ypur ward and drink ya m...Ness herbes ..

When you're caught pants down, you resort to throwing banter as usual. The most unsecured parry and supporters I have ever seen are APC and its supporters. Very insecure set of people.
I am even surprised that the same man that have for long worked against the Yoruba interest, is the same man that some people are dying for because of myopic thinking. A man that sees his personal ambition greater than the collective will of the Yoruba nation.
My concern is after his presidency, people would start reminding us about his past and who he is to Yoruba. What a myopic thinking.

goslowgoslow:
Neither will Obi and Kwakwanso! Obi is the weakest among the three of them.

But records shows Obi did wonderfully well on security during his reign. Same applies to Kwankwaso. During Tinubu reign as governor, it was a tug of war to sleep with the two eyes closed. Koposibu!