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HellVictorinho3:




Baseless comparison

I'm what way is it baseless?

Myer:


But Physics is science. An observation of how nature works. And how to simulate nature to make inventions.

The bible on the contrary is an alleged historical account of a said Jewish messiah that would save the whole world

The bible is just like our traditional myths and legends.

1. Do you believe there was a Sango who actually spat fire from his mouth and controlled thunder?

2. Do you believe there was actually an Amadioha who actually controlled thunder?

3. Do you believe that the whole world was created when Eledumare gave Orisanla a hen and sand which the hen scratched and spread to form the earth?

4. Or do you believe in the more documented Greek mythology of creation with Titans and Zeus?

5. Perhaps you believe in the Buddhist or Hindus version of creation story.


The truth remains you only chose to believe biblical version of the story because they were very meticulous and made sure to spread by enforcing it along education in Ngeria.
Your parents or grand were forced to accept Christianity or forfeit the benefits of education.

So you cannot possibly place science on the same pedestal as the bible or any other religious book simply because you simply chose to believe the bible.

I do not see anything wrong is having what you have chosen to believe. My only issue is that the bible promotes monopoly by teaching that only the bible is right and anyone who doesnt accept its teaching is condemned and some times should be ostracized.

We interact daily with the God of the Bible. in ways we can't interact with sango and Zeus.

And my grandparents willing accepted Christ.

Also. The Bible promoting it's monopoly is natural if you really think about it.

HenryDion:


What is nothing? How do you comprehend nothingness? Does it have mass, space? Define nothing, and I'll tell you how possible it is for something to emerge from it.

Let's represent nothing as 0. And something as 1.

Can you show us how mathematically possible it is to produce one from a bunch of zeros

HenryDion:


If we thread this route, you'll end up regressing. If nothing can will itself to existence, how are we here? If the world was created, who created the creator and the creator's creator? Infinitum. Perhaps something can come out of nothing. We might never figure it out, but what keeps us going is being open minded.

Lol why shouldn't we... You have seen things being created. 1.Have you ever see nothing becoming something?
2. Then why are you willing to believe it?
3. is that scientific, tested and proven?

4. If you say Infinitum is it different from what we call God?
5. Do you expect God die or be born?
6. Lastly do you expect God to be non-conscious

ImaIma1:
You have to grow thick skin. Most of those guys that bash can't even approach you in person. So they take out the frustrations in their lives on girls here. In real life, nothing.

Been here over 10yrs, if they like they bash from today till tomorrow, that's their problem.

Shattap dere. Iffa bash you once eh. you will stop using internet forever.

fidelmarshal199:


Some men inferiority syndrome in this forum is out of this world. they shout for joy anytime they see a female Moniker, they make it look like their life mission is accomplished. A typical example is this dude up here.
If all men are like me, this forum will be a better place. My perspective is that everyone on this forum is male, so I tackle all moniker equally. No dm. I comment on the topic I felt like not minding the gender displayed and move on to the next.

Exactly... I assumed everybody is a male except this with "queen" or "gurl" in their monikers. I don't pay attention to that pink 'f' and I don't even understand why some people dm them

HenryDion:


Saying that something came out of nothing is not absurd, cause we don't know anything, yet. If there must be a cause, you'll be plugging yourself into infinite regress. Like, what caused the first cause?

The bolded is in fact very absurd. It common sense to know that something can never come out of nothing.

Except nothingness now has a new meaning

HenryDion:


We could be living inside a simulation as sentient programs without even knowing it. Perhaps the world was created, perhaps not. I don't know enough to be certain.

Explain the "Perhaps not"
Is it possibile your phone to will itself to existence? Is it ever possible?

Myer:


The Bible is a written work just like Harry Potter.
You only chose to believe the Bible as real and disbelieve Harry Potter as unreal.

Your Physics textbooks too are written works.

HenryDion:


I don't know if there's a god or not. I'm agnostic untill there's enough empirical evidence to convince me otherwise.

Was the world created or not?

Rosement:

I trust Him so much and I know He will never fail me or forsake me.

How can I become an atheist? Atheists are person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God. If He answered me previously, it means He exist.

Yeah that true.

I asked because I've seen some folks doubting God just because they prayed for their sick mother and she still died.

Some pipu no just like dem selves.

Rosement:
I pray to God and He answers, that alone is an evidence to me that He exist. What other evidence am I looking for?

There's a small problem with logic. What if he stops answering. Will you become an atheist the next day?

HardMirror:
ok. It is you belief not an empirical proof. Enjoy your God.

Thanks jor. I dey enjoy am back to back.

Over to you why don't you acknowledge that there's a creator even if you don't see him?
And
Which kind of proof do you want. A big "I am God" all over the sky? :

HardMirror:
ok thanks for coming clean and being honest.

How do I know a phone does not just exist? Because humans make phones, we see them making the phones, we see them announcing their plans for new phones they want to release, we can observe them making the phones.

But how do we know god created all the animals and plants we see?

If humans make phones and the human who made the phone must be created, who created the creator of the humans?

Thats where our chain of creation stop.

We acknowledge that there is a single being who created all things. Then we just stop there because we can't think of anything higher than 'God'

Think of it, if God actually has a creator then he wouldn't be 'God' anymore

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Afterwards we live our daily lives communicating with that God we know and recognize.

HardMirror:
yes he speaks in our hearts, that is how we have thousands of religions because they all claim god spoke to them or would you say Zeus's did not speak to those that worshipped him, would you say sango, ifa, obatala does not speak to those that worship them? So can you tell me the name of this your own god

You're skipping a step.
If you don't understand the basic math then explaining the calculus to you will be a waste of time.

You gat recognize that there is a spiritual realm first.

HardMirror:
no no no. I did not say humans created phones since it cannot exist. You are the one saying that. Else show me where I said that.

I said we know humans create phones because we can see them making the phones. We know from experience and observation that phones are made by humans.

Dont twist my words please to sooth your lies. There is a big difference.

Have you seen god creating humans for you to know that god makes humans?

Let's go back. If you see a phone. Will you say it just existed on its own.
Or will you agree that someone made it?

Do you know anything that just willed itself to existence?

@bolded I don't intend to lie. I'm just showing you why I'm a theist

HardMirror:
which god is this and when did he reveal himself?

He speaks in a subtly in our hearts for those who cares to listen.

He spoke in the past through prophets.
And now He gave us His Son, His Word and His Spirit.

HardMirror:
because phones are made by humans. We can see it. Have you seen a god create humans or have you seen a video of god creating any plant or animal? How do you then know god created life? Go on you tube, you will see humans making phones, there is proof for that

okay, you say human create phones. Since it cannot just exist.

Then who creates the mountains and world you live in?
Who creates man?

EpicNigerian:
Reading all the intelligent comments above from both school of thoughts, you'll agree with me that the human mind is really amazing.

My point is, both sides are correct. When a man really believes a thing, that very thing becomes his truth regardless of whether he's right or wrong.

In fact, there isn't anything like right or wrong. Our interpretations of things give them life or death.

There's something about the human mind that can not be easily decrypted.

Right or wrong actually exists.
Has stealing or betraying ever been considered a righteous act?

chiedu7:


Satan has blinded many people,thats why

True, even if you show them the most convincing evidence. They will tell you that it doesn't still mean that God exists

HellVictorinho3:



Life is absurd..... don't call it God.... also, life just is or living things just appear/disappear

Even your phone can't just appear and dissappear

HardMirror:
oh o but they dont think the universe could have started from a singularity? The expansion of the universe is proof the universe started from a single point

Which part of your question does this answer?

HardMirror:
everything about god was created by humans even the laws of this so called god. No wonder there are many gods and even those who serve same god are saying different things on behalf of the same god

God revealed himself man. Others gods exists to confuse people more.

HardMirror:
bad analogy. We know humans paint because we have see humans paint, so when we see a painting we know a human must be behind it. For life, have we seen other examples of life outside earth that god created and we know for sure it was so so god that created it? So how did we arrive at the assumption that god created the life on this earth. Which god? Where did this god come from

If you can believe there's a painter from seeing the painted work. Why can't you see that they is a creator from seeing his creations?

BegAt40:

But the painter won't throw people in hell for not knowing him even after intentionally making his identity a secret.

He will. They should have known better.