butterflyl1on:
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Again you attempt to shift the goal post. We are talking about science and God and here you are talking about the Bible. Okay o

Man on his nature has always been discovery driven. There is a reason it is called DISCOVERY. It means it was already existing but we at that moment just got to know about it. Discoveries do not mean creation or origination by man. It simply means uncovering what we were in the dark about initially.

You seem lost, we are not talking about science and god explicitly, we are disproving god. How can you talk about god without the book that created him? I don't know if you know what you are typing. You should read before you post and you should understand what we are discussing here. Stop using the excuse of drifting to console yourself.

Man discovered everything else except god. You see, that is where you missed it. The cavemen who formed religion lacked insight and drive, and their biggest achievement was god, lol. Man only started discovery when people started question nature. The lack of education in the forgotten centuries really promoted religion and god because people had nowhere to run to. Discovery and science work hand in hand. The issue is everything god said he created before Man's discoveries are bunch of lies. Ypu don't need to explain to me what drives man or what discovery means to avoid that fact.

butterflyl1on:
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Need I remind you of the limited nature of man? You say man discovered contrary evidence to what God called good.

A being of infinite knowledge and vision who knows the end from the beginning may not interfere with anything that would jeopardize the end he has pre-planned or which he desires. What we as men see and term as evil or disorderly would definitely not be how A GOD would view it. A GOD may view it as a "NECCESARY EVIL" towards an ultimate good. Let me illustrate this by asking you this question.

If you are the driver of a car filled with 30 people and you are on top speed, and suddenly someone without looking out for oncoming vehicles dashes into the path of your high speed vehicle what would you do?

1. Swerve at top speed which would cause the vehicle to flip and kill everyone on board?

2. Slam on the brakes and also causing the vehicle to flip and killing everyone

3. Continue driving and "deliberately" knocking down the person who jumped into the road thereby killing only that person and saving all the other 30 passengers and yourself who are onboard.

Choose wisely

Note: you already have foreknowledge of what would happen if you swerved, or slammed on the brakes.

Here you go... . Very typical of a blind religionist. Is this what you tell yourself for consolidation that your god is good at all times?
Did you see that? 'good at all times.' Now, tell me what does 'good at all times' mean to you? After all, god has been said to be good at all times, so now you're saying god may employ a 'necessary evil' to achieve good? That means god is evil sometimes? Please, I need answers to these questions oooo . You better stop dragging what you cannot justify.

butterflyl1on:
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I brought it up because such named discoveries are not about the inherent qualities found in the discoveries but simply for sake of documentation. Eg

Law Field Person(s) Named After
Abel's theorem Calculus Niels Henrik Abel
Amdahl's law Computer science Gene Amdahl
Ampère's circuital law Physics André-Marie Ampère
Archie's law Geology Gus Archie
Archimedes' principle. Axiom of Archimedes Physics. Analysis Archimedes
Arrhenius equation Chemical kinetics Svante Arrhenius
Avogadro's law Thermodynamics Amedeo Avogadro
Bell's theorem Quantum mechanics John Stewart Bell
Benford's law Mathematics Frank Benford
Beer–Lambert law Optics

And so many more

Chisos, lol. These discoveries were made solely because they wanted to document them and not because of the basic qualities found in them? If you continue arguing like this, I will be forced to reserve my energy for someone who wants to argue intellectually and will be honest.

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butterflyl1on:
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This is common sense to me when though it may not be to you so I will argue based on my position. What I know of A GOD is that he has been before man as a creator. You can choose to believe what you want and argue what you want but my position is mine to uphold and we do not need to agree to it when it already was my position to begin with. Regarding whether he came from something or nothing, you can watch this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQVm8RokoBA

Have you seen the video yourself? Then you should be an atheist by now. Thank you for showing me the video, it only solidified my stance that there is no god.
That was how I started in the first place, explaining to my friends the forces that created the universe and not a spirit in high places. Not a being that is jealous and biased toward us. Not a being that created hell so that some of us can. Forces are the ones responsible and that is basically why the world is in a state of disorder. But you will not understand, you can keep your position and I'll keep mine. But Science has not discovered god. Don't go about spreading false rumors. The forces discovered by science don't have angels, they don't have sons and slaves or messengers. This is a waste of time.



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butterflyl1on:
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Already dealt with this above

Yea, you already escaped it.

butterflyl1on:
author=Graycoder post=61389198]
Anything attributable to man is limited. Limitations are set via

1. Exposure

2. Duration

3. Time

4. Mental ability

Etc

Any generation that passes has knowledge, wisdom, understanding etc all limited to their exposure level in that generation.

The next generation can pick up from the last generation but they also would be limited by the very same parameters.

There is no free roaming knowledge known to man. All are limited to the finite nature of man.

Wisdom and knowledge are not limited oga. Man, as it was in your post, talks about Man as a race and not individuals. And you never mentioned generations. Can't you be sincere with this convo or I'm bruising your ego?

Whatever we learn today is inherited from past generations, generations to come will also learn from us and it will continue in advancement for millions of years. Einstein, Newton, Galileo etc came centuries ago, past generations, we still read their works. Did the knowledge they acquired pass with their generation? You have to know what you are saying, this is absolutely unacceptable.

At this juncture, it is established that you don't even know what you are saying. I cannot keep up with lack of comprehension it slows me down. If at your age you are declaring that God is a fact, then what can I say? It is the generations that are limited, knowledge continues, hence, it's not limited. If it were it would stop.

erico2k2:

Oh you dont know? the call Spain names far worse than ZOO, just cos you dont understand Spanish dont gives you the right to portray your lack of Education and gross ignorance on here.They even Egged their politicians, (Throw smelly Eggs at them and the Police and threw shoes at them,Stones where thrown as well.Guy nor B me do you, Una village people dey use ur wifi

Ode, throwing eggs versus calling people names and issuing threats against them, declaring publicly that you need guns and creating a secret service in a country, Which is more violent? You that you understand Spanish and that is clever, oya tell us what Catalonians called Spaniards in Spanish? You lack cognition, I won't blame you. You can keep dreaming of Biafra that will never come. Wetin concern me?

erico2k2:
This FG just made Kanu score more points, why the hell would they do this? we are beginning to 4get Kanu, now U go and disturb the dust.the UK and US will never call IPOB a terrorist group cos they have brains. Who did they terrorist? in as much as the people of Barcelona are not terrorist Ipob wont be labeled as such.

Your stupidity is Legendary. Are the people of Barcelona or Catalonia issuing threats to Spain or are they calling Spain a zoo and Spaniards animals? Go and buy sense.

If the spiritual can control the physical, then according to the rule of thumb, the physical should be able to control the spiritual. A two-way door.

Your denial is just a confirmation of the so many lies.

butterflyl1on:
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You are already straying from science to descriptive characteristics and worship by people like Daniel, Ezekiel, etc.

Anyway I will make this very simple.

Anything and everything scientific ever discovered or named were all based on the mortal and limited nature of men and for most of these scientific discoveries, were named after those who discovered them and not based on just a "ballot selected" system.

God who has been in existence before man cannot subscribe to mans limited intellect. Man is limited by mortality in:

1. Wisdom
2. Knowledge
3. Understanding
4. Strenght
5. Anything attributable to man

God is limited by INFINITY! infinity in itself is endless so in essence God is not limited by anything except that which is known and attributable to him and by him directly.

Man is a stranger to infinity so whatever limited scientific notions by man is absolutely not relatable to A GOD.

Scientific discoveries were based on the mortal who took it upon themselves than rely on a fictional character, God. If those mortals were to act as prophets of the 'storybook,' bible, do you think they would have discovered anything? The 'holy book' stated many times that 'everything god created was wonderful so why look for anything? After all, they are wonderful already and since they are the works of god which we have been warned not to tamper with because they are mysteries. But the question is why has science found contrary facts to what 'God' said he created wonderfully in the first place? This completely disproves the fact that your god created anything and stamps the fact that entropy is a reality.

Let me ask, do you have an alternative way of attributing scientific discoveries to the discoverers? Why bring this up at all?

'God has been in existence before man', we never agreed on this, this is not a good way to argue. I guess you are as guilty as I am only that I concluded what you don't want to read. But this assertion without proof is the biggest crime of all. How has God existed before man? When did his existence start? Did he come from something or nothing?

If God has existed long before man, then why did he create a very disordered world despite his overwhelming supposed experience of existence? Funny really.

Man is not limited in any of the listed attributes below because you cannot measure those attributes. A Limit comes when you know the overall measure of an attribute or a value.

1. Wisdom
2. Knowledge
3. Understanding
4. Strenght
5. Anything attributable to man

Wisdom and understanding have no measured value and cannot be estimated. You cannot possibly estimate the level at which the human race is now on a wisdom meter. Hence, it is better to understand that wisdom and knowledge are infinite. There have been substantial advancements in knowledge and wisdom through the centuries, undeniable from the changes in our immediate environs compared to the past centuries. I wonder why man continues to make the world a better place but your god can't despite his abundance of the listed attributes. You see, perhaps you are wrong.

butterflyl1on:
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stop straying and goal post shifting already. It's too early for that. We just started conversing. [/qute]

You probably don't understand the utmost purpose of this converstaion, it's to show you that there is no God.


[quote author=butterflyl1on post=61387762]author=Graycoder post=61387072]
Refer to answer one above. One thing you need to realise is that the very nature of A GOD who isn't mortal kills off any so called claim about limitations being placed on him by a material world. It's not rocket science

How can something which is not material exist in a material world? Have you asked yourself this question? Have you considered the feasibility by erasing magic from it? There is nothing like magic, it is artistic, it births and dies in the mind and not reality.

But on the other hand, the fiction, God, has so many limitations, we will get there. The creators of the character did not really think it over when they created it many years ago, speaking of Abraham and co. Perhaps, that is a good pointer of how the human race grows in wisdom and knowledge. Consider the number of atheists we have in the world now to 2000 years ago.

butterflyl1on:
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As you said, science describes the physical world but cannot describe the one who is not of this physical world but made it. This is too simple really. There are two things here:

1. PHYSICAL which by definition is relating to things perceived through the senses as opposed to the mind; things that are tangible or concrete.

2.SPIRITUAL which by definition is incorporeal which means not composed of matter; having no material existence.

The physical is corporeal while the spiritual is incorporeal so how can the physical control the spiritual when they have nothing in common? How can the physical be used to describe God when he is not of the physical and cannot dance to the tunes of corporeal man?

You just nailed yourself here, I wanted you to read it again to see your failure of comprehension, but I'll help you by explaining it.

You seem to have a clumsy understanding of the pure science, I wondered why you argue the way you did before I came across this quoted piece. How can you type the (1) statement? Well, I'm glad to tell you that there is no mind without the 5 senses. They are responsible for activating your mind. Consider a deaf, dumb, blind person, in all honesty, will such a person know God? NO.

Thank you for the number (2) statement, it's just another pointer that the existence of an incorporeal god is just an imagination. Something which is not material cannot be involved in material processes. It is absolutely impossible for a spirit to touch that which is physical. You need to study physics and the physical laws guiding the universe.

butterflyl1on:
author=Graycoder post=61387072]
Science is a fabrication of man and every scientific term or discovery associated with it were all fabrications of man for sake of records keeping but they do not in any way bring A GOD to subjection.

Science is not a fabrication, it is a study of our nature and the rejection of the untrue and contrary theories religion preaches. Science has brought god or its idea to its knees. The world is waking up, only the ignoramuses are still in the dark because they want to. If god cannot be proved by facts but by mere assumptions, it means he does not exist and only lives in the imaginations of its followers.

butterflyl1on:



A God is above the notions of men. A God cannot walk with the notions of men if he did then he is no longer a God but a mere mortal.

On the contrary, everything and anything science (as known to man and posited by man) cannot put a God in a bottle. A God breaks all man made boundaries and man simply creates those physics laws and chemical laws in order to better understand his (mans own) existence but not in any way does it define a God.

Game on, I'm glad you came out.

Let's start from the beginning. God or whoever cannot be above science. God cannot be above the notions of men because he expects us to know him through our notions. Everything about God, his existence, and exaltations emanated from the notions of men. Imaginations of fictional characters like David, visions of Daniel, prophecies of Ezekiel and Isaiah, Jeremiah etc. They all wondered and came to conclusions.

God has never been God, if there is an entity then it's energy or nature. There is no God, I can only wish you'll wake up someday.

I don't know which century you live in, and I am surprised you don't know that science has trapped your imaginary friend in a small box since the 20th century. Do you know how many theories of vitalism that were disproved by Science? You'll need to carry out a research on that.

If Science which describes the physical world we live cannot describe the person assumed by the ignorant ones to have created the physical world. Then the creator is a hoax. God does not exist and so does Satan, channel your energy into that and live your life freely.

GodsMopol:


Yes, what I feel about it all is that, you are shown to pray about them

yea, that reminds me, Kenneth hagin, I believe in vision, dreams, visions and prophecy are good books to catch

I beg you, stay away from that gra guy up there

Enemy. And why should she stay away from me, because you're the best for her? Idiat

butterflyl1on:


How is it not relevant? You said Einstein is wiser than God so I asked you to give me the characteristics of God or your own characteristics of what A GOD should have.

A God should know Physics and teach it
A God should know the theory of relativity more than Einstein
A God should know tomorrow and not regret his future actions
A God should be able t avoid or avert tragedies or bad occurences

Do you want more?

Demmzy15:

Later you'll be saying I'm abusing you! Let's see the definition of pedophile and see whether it applies here:

(psychiatry) A person aged 16 years old or older who has a mental disorder that makes him primarily or exclusively sexually attracted toward prepubescent children. [from 20th c.]

1. Aisha(RadiAllaahu Anha) started had started menstruation at the age of 9 before she moved in. This 1400 years ago and the age of consent all around the world was low, 200years ago, it was as low as 7years in the USA. So please educate yourself https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent

Here is a correct definition, stop looking for ways to defend the atrocities of your prophet

ped·o·phile [péddə fl, pdə fl]
(plural ped·o·philes)
noun
adult with sexual desire for children: an adult who has sexual desire for children or who has committed the crime of sex with a child

-ped·o·phil·ic [pèddə fíllik, pdə fíllik], adjective

Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Demmzy15:

Apparently you're bigger fool than I thought, Aisha did not move into the Prophet's house until she was 9years. She was his wife till he died when she was 18years old. The hadith never indicated her age when washing, I'm challenging you show me any narration that claimed she was 6years old. You people are pathetic liars!

Are you not even ashamed of justifying this? A 9-year-old girl? The fact was that he married her when she was 6 years. I don't care when she moved into his house. It is a shameful act for a prophet who claimed(lied) he heard or received a book from god. If god didn't know and couldn't tell him that action was wrong, then I rest my case.

Demmzy15:

Of course I'm a good Muslim, if you refuse to your senses, I'll teach you how to. If you abandon religion, that doesn't mean you should abandon your brain too.

The things that make you a Muslim are how you talk and the things you say, VERY TYPICAL OF BACKWARD PEOPLE.
I abandoned religion because I'm more pragmatic than you, wise than you and refuse to be indoctrinated by illiterates of the old.

Demmzy15:

You're not intelligent at all, I'm sure you own a blog where you write all manners of filth like "how to have sex during menstruation". It has side effects, if the woman doesn't feel it now, they'll surely suffer from complications later. https://www.athenainstitute.com/prsexme.html

I don't expect you to get it, and I know you also don't see anything wrong in a man mounting another man.

This is why I am more intelligent than you, I don't reach conclusions by saying 'I'm sure.' You reek of ignorance and you don't have simple logic. Since you're sure of what you're not sure of, I'd let you continue to be sure in ignorance.

And yes, I don't have a problem with a man I am not feeding or I am not responsible for having sex with another man. In Islam, I realize people don't even have freedom or free will. You must serve Allah since you all are servants. And Allah, for the tyrant that he is, has put up some laws where they have to mutilate his servants for those who err. A grown who wants to have sex with another grown man consensually is none of my business.

Demmzy15:

See me see wahala o, so because a man is romantic with his wife during menstruation by laying his head on her lap, that's why you're bitter? Are you saying your father doesn't lay on your mother's lap?

A supposed holy man is thinking of romance while he is communicating with god. Can't you see what's wrong with that as a religious fool that you are?
Did god also give mohammed veil to cover Muslims brains? Na wa o. Don't mention my father or mother again, else my retaliation will not be funny.


While a culture that portrays women as sex objects, deprive them inheritance is what?

Demmzy15:

Lol!!! So all the abuses you've throwing since is what? Mehn!!! I've really calmed down, if it were years back when I was still fresh in dealing with nincompoops like you, you'll deactivate. Ask your predecessors!

I'm done trying to help you, must you be foolhardy? Don't tell me you don't know the difference between insulting and cursing.
Who are your predecessors? You mean the ones who don't know how to set a fool like you right? Lol

Demmzy15:

Look at this fool! So you're now interpreting Islamic literatures for me koh? You never seem to amaze me!

It's English you don't understand, I'll do well to break it down to your level though.

Demmzy15:

Secondly, you're allowed to enjoy your wife when they're menstruating, but vaginal/anal penetration is not allowed. So you've failed in your quest!

You see how foolish you are? Lol, we are talking about sex when women are menstruating. In your stupid explanation you said no penetration, then why are you arguing?

Demmzy15:

What's wrong in reading a book with my head on my wife's lap? Is it the leg that is removing blood? Are having mental problems that you can't process this. Maybe your brain processing capabilities is outdated when reading, lemme give you a picture, maybe you'll understand.

I'm glad you said a book, a book like Romeo and Juliet can be read, but then since you generalized 'book' here, don't you ever mention how you think your Koran is special again in your life. You have agreed now that it's just like every other book. Thank you.

Demmzy15:

It doesn't stop there, you'll gain reward for satisfying your wife. In Islam, you're to make sure she's satisfied, in fact under an Islamic State, it's encouraged that men who stay far from home to come home every six months. So we're not shy to have sex with our legally wedded wives not aprokos like you that claim to respect women but see them as objects to gratifying your incessant desires.

We know what Islam and we don't need to be reminded. The approval of sex slavery, numerous wives are all justification to how good the religion is. Didn't your sex maniac prophet have NINE wives? Lol, this is hilarious.

Demmzy15:

Yes! Islam conquers and we've saved civilizations through expanding. After wars, there's booties and this includes slaves. We're talking about 1400years ago, there are rules and regulations as to how you'll treat them. Slaves who become Muslims are freed, a slave can agree to work a specific time so as to be free.

Of course, we know your slave history and how your prophet forced all of them to become Muslims. Did you say Islam saved civilizations? You must be an slowpoke for making that statement.

Demmzy15:

The GTHO of the thread, don't you have sense? Just look at how they've been oppressing her for days. You still wan join too, I thought you claimed to respect women? Why try to stress her?

She has oppressed herself by becoming a Muslim in the first place. What's my problem with her? I'm just sorry for her, that was my first comment. I have been replying to you because you asked for the verses analice said she wanted to post and I posted them. But again, it's you, right? Your reasoning is always absurd and upside down, so you don't know why I have been replying. It's A PITY REALLY, I didn't know unintelligent fools like you still exist.

Sebastine1606:

The proof is my life and how did I come to Existence... Did I created myself.... No I didn't, but He did, and am He's property for eternity

Oh, you were not born? I see...

If creation or how humans came to exist is your problem then I advise you to see knowledge. And there is no proof either that god created you, so stop spreading false lies.

Demmzy15:
Lmao!!! But you lied on my Prophet? Do you know I hold my Prophet higher than my own parents? You can't speak bad about him just anyhow, besides, I didn't abuse your parents. I only compared the situation since you refused to use your head!

Be expecting a rebuttal shortly!

And you keep replying your ignorance every time. I said it earlier, you are a typical Muslim.
Aren't you showing us what Islam is all about? Lol

I spoke against your prophet and you mentioned my parents instead. Yeah, that's how Islam works, I'm not surprised there is no home training verses in the Koran. If we are together you would have stabbed me, right?

Islam is there for everyone to see, and we are seeing clearly.

Sebastine1606:



Same God, Yahweh, Jehovah,is all same, but different people with different tongues, Hebrews, Jews etc with different names
Devil is just deceiving you people

Where are your proofs that God created you? Don't tell me a book told you oo.

umarsheks6:
I agree am ignorant


I am already havin migraine bcoz of level of reasoning
I give up b4 u run me mad with ur blabbing

You're right, my level of reasoning is complex for your simpleton's brain. There's no way you can understand why your prophet devoured a child and did all he did, and there is no way you can explain my exposing of your stupid religion. Don't run mad for the sake of your family, but I don't really care if you do though.

If you don't have brains don't you have eyes? You did not see answers in those texts, you're a shame lol

So, you have resorted to insulting, lol. I knew you wouldn't be able to take it.

umarsheks6:
u still haven't answered demmzy15 questions and u say am unintelligent
I answered all d questions u threw

Lol are those questions? You and demmzy15 are flocks of the same kin.

Someone who is pained that he could go lengths to bring my mother, my father and my grandfather into matters they are not aware of?
Muslims are the same, ignorance is your motto. He didn't prove anything and I have addressed his problems. So what questions are you talking about?

Sebastine1606:


I think He has already when He died on the cross fir you and I..

Did he die for me? He just wasted his precious time. You are really dumb to think someone died for you though.

umarsheks6:
e pain am

This is what you have resorted to? Lol

I knew you were unintelligent and could not stand the fire I brought close.

Demmzy15:


So you want to play a fast one mate? Lmao!!! You'll have to defend the quotes from the bible because you're a soldier of Christ. All atheists have overlooked the thread, everyone attacking her is a Christian because y'all can't stand it. So be rest assured that'll you'll have to defend the bible.

You cannot hide the truth, it's just like a smoke. You have shown the ignorance rocking Islam. You are wherever you are and you think I am not an Atheist because the Atheists you know overlooked the thread. That's really stupid man, and I am not supposed to dilly dally with you but who will make you see your ignorance better if not me?

Demmzy15:


Alright let's see!

Of course yes, no reasonable Muslim will deny it just as how Christians can't deny that biblical god got Mary married to Joseph at the age of 12, and then he impregnated her later in which she gave birth at 14years.

Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) married Aisha(RadiAllaahu Anha) when she was 6years and she moved to his house when she was 9years old. They remained together till Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) died where she was 18years.

In fact, that is the wisest thing reasonable Muslims have been doing right since Mohammed died, upholding that Mohammed actually was a pedophile is something I commend you people for. But reasonable Muslims and Christians are much better than you who think the biblical god 'married Mary to Joseph', that's insanely silly, I'm not surprised since it came from you. Many reasonable Muslims also believe Jesus was born special by a virgin, something I as an Atheist deems impossible but that's a matter for another day. But your so-called reasonable Muslims believe it anyway. You appear to divert from the reasoning of your fellows by stating otherwise. Am I surprised again? NO.

Demmzy15:

Are you saying it's wrong for a wife to clean her husbands clothes? Abi your mother doesn't clean your daddy's stuffs ni? See me see wahala o!

I am saying it is wrong for a child of 6yrs to clean sperm from a pedophile who bleeps around like a goat.

You mentioned my mother, lol. I will not say anything about that, you are a good Muslim after all.

Demmzy15:

In Islam, your wives aren't forbidden for you when they're menstruating. You don't have sex, but you can handle and do whatsoever. The bible, on the other hand, treats ladies like analice107 like filth when they're menstruating, let's see for ourselves:

"When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening." Levicticus 15:19

So Islam has respect for women unlike Christianity that treats them like outcasts and causes of problems!

Yes, many things only happen in Islam, I give you guys kudos for that. Why would your wives even be forbidden at all? Whether she's menstruating or not, it's not enough reason to forbid your wife. But you said you don't have sex, and to you, that's not semi-forbidding? You cannot really surprise me with your low intellect, not at all. But Islam can forbid women for many other things but not when menstruating, this assures the fact that your profile was a sex maniac.
Whether the Bible forbids a menstruating woman is not the talk here, defend what your pedophilic master did is what we are saying. You tend to be using the inconsistencies of the Christian religion to explain yours. It is due to your low intellectual capability. But who cares about Christianity either, get it straight into your skull man. I don't care.

You shpuld read more which religion treats women as outcast, I believe Islam would win that trophy.

Demmzy15:

Are you saying Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) should be looking and standing when he needs meet his wives? They're menstruating for Godsake, he married 9 wives. Are you saying it's forbidden for man to have sex with his other wife if others aren't available? I wish you could travel back in time and ask your grandfather how he treated his wives!

Olori buruku!!!

Lol, Olori buruku? You should have told me I was been harsh on you instead of cursing me. Don't worry, I will not descend to your level, when the nonintellectuals run out of words, they condescend to cursing. Enjoy your cursing.

I didn't say your prophet should be looking when he needs to attend to the most important activity(sex) of his life ooo, He should continue in grave sef.

But sadly let me break this sad news to you, you lack cognition and comprehension. That statement you quoted doesn't mean he went to meet Aisha when others were menstruating, it means he slept with his wives when they were menstruating and not just Aisha. Learn how to read and understand, it will help your already miserable life.

My grandfather again? Lol

Demmzy15:

This was what Aisha(RadiAllaahu Anha) said: The Prophet used to lean on my lap and recite Qur’an while I was in menses.

So what exactly is the problem here? Hope you are not becoming mad?

I give up on you, I really give up on your life. If after reading that a man of God or servant whichever he was, recite the Koran on his menstruating wife's lap, and you still think Mohammed is not the mad one here, then I give up. Lol

That's how ridiculed your god is. Lol, when I thought he was the only true god, then someone can read his message while getting ready to f.uck

Demmzy15:

What's wrong in that? A slave woman is equivalent to one's wife and she has the same right as a legally wedded wife, even when she gives birth, her son inherits the father. So why blabbing?

Do you realize how stupi.d this sounds? You are very stu.pid my friend.

Demmzy15:

Lmao!!!! Saffiyah(RadiAllaahu Anha) is my mother and a legally wedded wife of Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam), he husband was killed during battle and she was amongst the captives. She was then married to him, is there anything wrong with that?

Oh no, nothing is absolutely wrong with that. Your god is a conqueror, isn't he? And Mohammed his servant must be rewarded anyway, abi? Hediot

Demmzy15:


Now respond to the biblical verses I posted, you're a Christian, don't be ashamed!

I so wish I am a Christian so I can fight your lies with more lies. But sadly, I'm not going to make you cum. I am not against Vanessa because I am a Christian, I am sorry for her because she moved from frypan to fire. If other Atheists have moved on from the posts, can't you comprehend that I am nothing like others?

Sebastine1606:


I am very aware of that in the Old Testament, yes God has the right to do whatever He pleases with us, we are like pencils in His hands, their sins was too heavy to behold, the Lords eyes hates evil .... But on the other hand He sent[b] JESUS CHRIST[/b] to save the world for the sins you and I committed.... An innocent man, the prince of peace
And now, the same sins with which He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah is on the higher side.. Yet, coz of Jesus he watches over us

This is what too much of super story can do to a grown man. You are like pencil and remain a pencil in his hands. Leave me out of that bullshit.

Their sins were too heavy and yours is light abi? God killed others for the same sin we are committing today, how very partial that is.
How will Jesus save me from my sin? Just by saying some words abi? You are greatly deluded, my brother.

I am glad god doesn't exist anyway.

umarsheks6:
oh now it's me who is finding reasons and mind u jesus was never crucified and he wasn't d one killed believe it or not

Jesus wasn't crucified is one of the lies your prophet told you, I know.

The sad thing is that I believe eye witness than Mohammed who came hundreds of years later after the events. Even the Pharisees who were happy to kill Jesus recorded that they killed Jesus. And you are here spewing trash as usual as your prophet did. Continue, you hear?

umarsheks6:
ur logic of argument are all d same with u christians even with ur so called men of god u guyz keep jumping from dis to dat u never complete an argument and do u know hu does dat? iblissu(devil)

Look how you just nailed yourself to the cross. You are the one who has been jumping from one thing to another. You asked for verses, we gave you, you asked for references, we still gave you. You came and said the verses were based on previous verses, you said the references are not true without any proof. You are just making noise here and going from frypan to fire. And here you are accusing me of what you are gulty of. THis is a waste of time.

jashar:


Outside marriage, it is.

Says who?

mhizesther:



I sent u a pm

Ignore the pm formalities, my Lady. You can find me here 07052372106 or graycoder84@gmail.com

Just beep me and I'll get back to you, won't keep you waiting.

mhizesther:



I sent u a pm

I have not received it.

mhizesther:
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How and when are we starting the 'talk?'

Sebastine1606:

First to start with, God doesn't kill His subjects anyhow, since He loves them and had mercy on them..... And that way why He sent our Lord Jesus to die for us to be saved.... I hope the bolded is not that you mean they will fight Him.... Mare mortals, lol.... How can you fight someone greater than you
You don't even know how the world started

Your reply actually made me laugh hard so tey ehn, all my teeth don dey pain me sef. God doesn't kill his subjects anyhow but he kills them anyway. Was it not the same God who destroyed the world with flood and Sodom and Gomorrah with fire? Have you forgotten we are talking about the notorious genocide perpetrator?

jashar:
Living in sin is fun...
And the road to hell is a wild party...



Salvation comes from the Lord Jesus. Make a way for Him in your life...

Sex is not sin.

umarsheks6:
LAUGING 99.99% of wat u qouted Are garbage, lies and d hadith u sat down nd wrote and it is only A muslim dat is not knowledgible u can post this trash to nd Allhamdulillah I have been gifted by ALLAH a little knowlledge

I don't expect you to admit or accept the atrocities and the evils of the Man you are following. But there is one thing about the truth, it can not be destroyed, it will always remain.

umarsheks6:
 if u were there during d of d prophet when his sahabas were beaten to death,torn apart by horses, laid flat on d sand in desert  facing d sun with hot huge stones place on. Der chest, women raped and killed by d kafirs just for saying lailahailallahu Muhammed rasululah and is d same tin Dat   is happening in Burma pakiitan nd India yet u say d muslims ar d ones killing and note dat no true muslim will kill a person dat is not hurting him or his Religion.

Excuse you, Stephen was stoned to the death, Peter was Crucified upside down, Jesus was molested many times until he was killed for doing nothing. All these happened even before Mohammed was born. If these people did not receive instructions to fight back and kill those who sought them from their god, then I their god is more real and better than yours. Stop giving me excuses about your people being killed and you had to fight back. Your religion is not simply a religion of peace, it is one that is full of atrocities. Kapish.

Sebastine1606:

Why disobey the King of Kings and the creator of even you

But if you disobey the King of Kings, he should be wise enough to know that cutting the head is not the cure for headache, when you keep killing the people you rule over, someday they will rebel against you, especially when you have given them 'free will.'

mhizesther:




Lol
No thanks

You see, just like your own deja vu, I also knew you were going to say No, thanks. And I am normal, like it has happened before in the past.

We are not crazy my friend, it's just one of those things.

mhizesther:



How are u going to help

I will enchant you. Would you like that?