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raumdeuter:
If you are sure of your facts present it, Its not everything you will turn to a begging opportunity and make everyone know you are hungry

But this is not usually what you say when you are sure of your facts.

gensteejay:
Everything is juju to the ignorant black man. In your arrogance and ignorance as a religionist, you actually believe only this our small planet holds life because Yahweh chose it for his religion?

There are several other realities apart from ours. In a universe that houses hundreds of billions of planets, it is unreasonable to think only planet Earth has living beings in it. So, there are other realities apart from ours and one doesn't play around with some esoteric procedures, ludicrously.

Calling beings in other realities "demons" shows folly as some of them are good and others are bad, just we humans.

Everything is juju to religionists. Even the phone you're pressing is juju. What you don't understand, you term them as juju or supernatural.

are you not confused like this?
You don't believe in juju, no supernatural. Yet one should not play around with esoteric procedures. No God. This is confusion.


Point of correction, i am not a religionist. I am a Christian.

raumdeuter:
If you are hungry and someone told you Nairaland was created to feed you, go meet them and tell them they lied

Go and harvest underwears instead

hahahahahahaha.

Oga raumdeuter!!! This is exactly how you behave when you don't have your usual facts to back you.

Are you afraid of facts now?

gensteejay:
Do you honestly think that I have never heard about or read some of these books when I made that statement?

which of them did you read?

raumdeuter:
How many points has Hazards goals won?

2015 oga. Don't run o. You still want me to prove it? 36k

gensteejay:
Spell books? Spells wey I don see tire for Merlin, The Magician. Lol

Are those claims corroborated in scholarly articles and books of experts?

There are scholarly articles on the history of all these gods online. Can you offer the same evidence for juju

you are confused. You are not even sure of What you believe in.


If you are so confident that there is no juju, carry out the exercise and come and tell us your experience with honesty. You Can still go and meet Griffon

gensteejay:
Look at this ignorant guy

Mixing up history and science

They are 2 different fields with distinct methodologies and techniques for researching about things.

What makes a piece of evidence valid is not the fact that it's a video or book. It's the content and logic behind it.

You don't expect me to trust what religionists say as the truth without credible evidence, in form of a video or book/journals.

Few years ago, I used to be a Muslim, so I know how religionists twist facts and cook up outright lies to suit their agenda.

When discussing historical facts, we rely on accounts of people, physical evidence like sites, shrines, and books.

What I stated about Olorun, Fenibeso, and other gods here are common knowledge around the country, which older people know, and they are even corroborated by books, written Nigerian and African authors.

I can cite scholarly journals on this subject, if necessary.

Can you provide evidence of juju from books and scholarly journals, other than mere hearsay and tales?

tomorrow you will be claiming that you are well read.

So you don't know that there are spell books.

If you want to know about juju, you Can google about demons and their sigils. Follow the instructions on how to summon the demons and come to tell your story.

https://oulbooks.com/blogs/news/strangest-books-ever-created


https://listverse.com/2017/01/21/10-mysterious-books-you-will-want-to-own/

https://m.ranker.com/list/unexplained-books/juliet-bennett-rylah

If you can get them

airmark:
I remember when we told you some of us saw juju in action, you asked for video evidence before you could believe. Now, who told you that what you read about the history of religion and colonialism in Nigeria, to cement your view, was true? Were you there? Where's the video evidence?

This is a major problem with you and Dayo.

Thank you very much

raumdeuter:
How can Hidden Hazard be the best performer in 2017, when Kante and Azpi were there? Or how in 2015 when Costa and fabregas were

Kane and Salah do their jobs. Last season Salah topped the scorers chart Kane did some seasons back. When has Hazard ever topped goals or assist chart for Chelsea never mind the entire league

But how come Hazard goals won more points than any other player in the league?

raumdeuter:
How can Hidden Hazard be the best performer in 2017, when Kante and Azpi were there? Or how in 2015 when Costa and fabregas were

Kane and Salah do their jobs. Last season Salah topped the scorers chart Kane did some seasons back. When has Hazard ever topped goals or assist chart for Chelsea never mind the entire league

he is topping the assists chart this season, will chelsea win the league?

airmark:
You beat me to that. The old sodiki, is back.

lol

sod09:
Big lie
Can this chelsea be worse than arsenal when sanchez carried his team till he left

sorry, where did he carry them to?

HanksAnuku:
To be honest, I can understand where Ibime is coming from.

I'm also tired of Hazard. The guy has constantly refused to stand up and be counted when required. His talent level is elite...I still maintain around the the Ronaldo Messi Level, but his application is so poor it's unreal.

When you read about the sacrifices less talented players have made at the altar of the game, just so they can reach their limited potential...it's particularly galling to hear Hazard make those idiotic comments he likes to make.

"I'm not interested in scoring"
"I just want to enjoy myself"
"All my managers are tired of me"

At the same time though, we can't deny that Hazard is probably the best player in the world who has to play in a substandard team. His team mates include incompetent defenders who cant sniff danger, impotent midfielders who cant create , incontinent forwards who constantly sh!t the bed, all coached by an intransigent manager who continues to stubbornly play to idiotic tactics.

Prior to this, Hazard was one of 2 forwards playing with 8 defenders and 1 keeper under Conte.

Hazard has never played in the kind of superstar team that the likes of Neymar, Hazard and Ororo played in. The time he played in a team close to those, he won Silver Ball at the World Cup.

Hazard is partly suffering from the ediotic recruitment decisions made by the board....but the fool is also clearly no someone you can rely on when the chips are down

this the undiluted truth. The funny one is someone blaming his best player for his team's poor performances. Is that not funny?

Unlimited22:
He wasn't far from the truth.

they did not provide his 2 assists in the community shield match. But, i am very sure that he assisted both of our goals that day.

larride:
Hazard had 26 assists in which season?

2012 /2013

Ibime:
Where has he been since New Year crossover?

We don't pay for half season performance.

Yesterday he was just doing as he like, dribbling to entertain himself and killing attacks. I've hardly seen as unprofessional a performance as he gave yesterday.

sunday match? Hazard that was the closest to scoring a goal? You are just looking for a scapegoat, but as long as the everton match is concerned, hazard can't pass as your scapegoat. Look for another person. Not hazard, not everton match

Ibime:
Lampard never had a season where he let down Chelsea. Consistency is what makes great players.

Left to you, you would want to take Hazard 7 year career and choose only 3 seasons whereas in Lampard career, you can pick any year under the age of 32 and he is giving you 20 goals at least.


Why should I not pick Hazard 2015 season when you're the one who asked me to pick the worst team he played with. Is it Lampard fault that Hazard came back in preseason looking like this?



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lol.

Like i said, we are arguing on how poor hazard best has been for us over the years.

That season was a completely abnormal one with hazard even being injured.

Well, don't worry. You will s

airmark:
RaumdeuLIAR disappeared.

Ibime:
Lampard never had a season where he let down Chelsea. Consistency is what makes great players.

Left to you, you would want to take Hazard 7 year career and choose only 3 seasons whereas in Lampard career, you can pick any year under the age of 32 and he is giving you 20 goals at least.


Why should I not pick Hazard 2015 season when you're the one who asked me to pick the worst team he played with. Is it Lampard fault that Hazard came back in preseason looking like this?



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lol.

Like i said, we are arguing on how poor hazard best has been for us over the years.

That season was a completely abnormal one with hazard even being injured.

Well, don't worry. You will s

Ibime:
How you are ranked depends on your performance over time,. The more time passes and you keep misbehaving, your ranking will go down.

He is now well below Makelele, Cech, Ballack, Essien and Kante in my estimation.

Please tell me how he has misbehaved this season with 11 assists [most in the league]
13 goals [only topped by strikers and those with better team mates
Efl cup final
A clueless coach

Tell me how he has misbehaved

raumdeuter:
What of last season when Chelsea finished 5th or this season?

then compare the players putting into consideration the current competition for places

airmark:
The reason behind ibime's O to gee.
Raumdeuter, Greatihex

lol. This one get me

airmark:
The reason behind ibime's O to gee.
Raumdeuter, Greatihex

lol. This one get me

Ibime:
Only because Robben did not stay longer. Two years prior to this, I had Robben in Hazard position.

you ranked him third for your all time great at Chelsea

Ibime:
Worst players Hazard played with, Costa, Matic, Fabregas, Pedro, Azpi, Terry, Ivanovic, Cahill - he took them to 10th position.

Worst players Lampard played with - Melchiot, Stanic, Gronkjaer, Hasselbaink, Mutu, Kezman, Geremi and co. He took them to 2nd position and UCL semi.

Hazard O to ge!

please don't bring a season hazard was not even close to his average self and had 2 months of injury. Bring a season hazard was in his average self that was a bad season for chelsea.

Ibime:
You thought you could use excuse of different era to excuse Hazard until Lampard came into Hazard era as a 34 year old defensive midfielder and still beat him like a thief.

In 2012/13 season we were dropping out of top4 while Hazard was dancing shakushaku until Lampard put together a crazy goalscoring run that took us into UCL culminating in a 2-0 win at Aston Villa that secured qualification when Lampard scored both goals

2012/13:

Hazard as a wing forward - 13 goals
Lampard a 34 year old DM - 17 goals

Never you compare your club best player by a distance to a shakushaku dancer.


Lampard beating Hazard on his death bed from defensive position like a thief in the same era.


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you are very funny. I can bet that hazard is the one that provided more assists for Lampard for his 17 goals, hazard won most of the penalties he scored, hazard had more assists that season. And i can bet my left balls without checking google that hazard assisted one if not two of the goals you claim Lampard scored. All in the first season of a player settling in.

Hazard had 26 assists that season o.

airmark:


When they use Lampard's goals to flog your Iniesta, you will remember that he padded it with pks.

lol

airmark:


Real punishment coming by summer.

please can you help me dig where he placed hazard third in his chelsea all time legend

Ibime:
First compare 2003/04 set and admit that current set are better than Melchiot, Stanic, Gronkjaer, Hasselbaink, Mutu, Kezman, Geremi and co. Then tell me whether Hazard ever in his life.took current Chelsea team to where Lampard took that team.

After that we can discuss whether or not Willian and Pedro are better than Malouda and Joe Cole, whether or not Fabregas is better than Deco, whether or not Azpi is better than Bosingwa or Belletti, or how Kante and Kovacic compare with Ramires, Thiago or Essien etc.

After that you can telll me why Lampard came into Hazard era from 2012 to 2014 and still out produced him from defensive midfield position, maintaining his record of qualifying Chelsea for.UCL even in Hazard era.until.he left and Hazard start finding it harder than rocket science.

oga don't change the discuss. It is about how the team performed at a time with the kind of players around.

What level of players were around in Chelsea worst seasons with hazard and compare with chelsea worst seasons with Lampard taking into consideration the nature of the league in the present time.

Ibime:
How old were Drogba and Lampard in 2012. That was last gasp of a dying set. Bosingwa, Meireles, Ramires, Cahill, Luiz, Torres, Mata who all featured are not part of that set.

That era finished in 2010 with Ballack and Carvalho leaving and Essien relegated to permanent sickbed, not to mention Makelele who left before that, and Lampard and Drogba crossing into their 33rd year.

Even with that, their points total in 2011 will still finish them top4 this season. How do we want to compare to the useless shakushaku boy who has wasted his youth?

please, all the players you listed as being part of that era, can you compare to the ones we have now and the ones we had since hazard came to Chelsea? Please do a like to like comparison let us see how sentimental you can be

raumdeuter:
Drogba delivered at Allianz and so did other Chelsea players. If you watched the game you will know that for Chelsea not to convert 5 goals in regulation is not because of Drogba. Cech wey save full time penalty come save another 2 in 5 shootout. Summarily he saved 3 out of 6 and you dey shout Drogba

At Allianz

Cech, Cashley, Lampard Drogba in that order

using your criteria, can you tell us what Lampard did better than Drogba at the allianz arena?

raumdeuter:
I dont have to agree with him
My own Top 11 Chelsea legends since 2000
Lampard Drogba Cech Cole Carvalho Makelele Fabregas Ivanovic Kante Costa Hazard

fab, Costa Kante? Lol
You are just too biased and sentimental for someone to have a discuss with

raumdeuter:
If you hope to make a living off the internet, you too better start harvesting underwears

lol shameless man. Why you no tell airmark the same thing when he asked you to stake money today.

You for try am nah.


The truth hurts

Never you challenge the importance of hazard to our season that year if you will not agree to the bet

Ibime:
During Drogba and Lampard era 3 English teams can easily make UCL semifinal.

Liverpool can beast UCL and not even qualify domestically.

Drogba and Lampard team will easily take 3rd spot in this year EPL in their worst year. A team that will go 6 years unbeaten at home, how do you expect that sort of team to struggle for top4?

2005 we had 95 points
2006, 91 points
2007, 83 points
2008, 85 points
2009, 83 points
2010, 86 points

Which is when that era practically ended for me.

This season 76 points will get you into top 4.

Shakushaku era, Leicester won EPL with only 81 points. 2nd place had 71 points. 66 points was all that was needed for top 4. . . .and shakuboy was nowhere to be seen.

are you serious? The era ended in 2010 when we won in ucl in 2012?

Sha, the dancer has already entered into your third place for chelsea legends. He can go now let us focus on better things