justwise:


Ok I will reply you later today, a bit busy now

Okay, thank you

dduchess90:
Hello

Unfortunately there's nothing more to add to this, the rules are clear.

UK doesn't joke with child welfare and work/family balance.How will you the MA take care of 3child dependants whilst studying?

Writing to HO or administrative review will only waste more time if the compelling reasons are not justified.

You do have the right intention for yourself but the focus is on the kids. Your have to reapply for their visa along with their father.

Cheers

Thank you for responding. Unfortunately I am not sure if applying with their father will not complicate matters more due to the fact that he does not intend to live with me in the UK. The immigration rules (ST 32.5) states that "The applicant and their partner (who must be a Student, or applying at the same time as a Student) must intend to live together throughout the applicant’s stay in the UK."

There is no way to circumvent that rule as that would most likely land us into more trouble. I would need to focus on being granted an exception based on the third leg of the rules.

Gift7428:

I got in touch with a UK based lawyer. According to him, all you needed was a consent letter giving strong reasons why your husband cannot move with you guys.

Did you submit a consent letter, signed by your and your husband? The letter was meant to explain that you will have sole responsibility of the kids for the period of your masters. Get in touch with a good lawyer
I don’t even understand why they want to force people to move with MA for masters.

Thank you for responding. We did write a consent letter, signed by both of us, but we did not explain why I will have sole responsibility of the kids because we were not aware that there was a rule like this.

abuhusna1:
Don't stress it. Children can't be given visa without the father going with you according to their law except yoy have proof of sole responsibility. Best is you all apply together husband goes with you and co.e back same week to his good job.

Thank you for responding but unfortunately, this will not work because according to the immigration rules, ST 32.5,

"The applicant and their partner (who must be a Student, or applying at the same time as a Student) must intend to live together throughout the applicant’s stay in the UK."

Since my husband does not intend to live in the UK, then it would be deemed as false information.

justwise:


What care plan did you make for your kids in the UK?

Thank you for responding. I have communicated with several independent schools in the local vicinity of my school and at least 4 of them have confirmed that they have space for the 3 kids. We have not pinned down one because we would like to see the schools before we decide. All the schools have wraparound care till 6pm for the toddler and 6.30 pm for the older kids. We are also considering getting a nanny if necessary to help with any clashes with my school timetable.

Good evening everyone! Please I need help as I am currently in a dilemma with UKVI issues.

@dduchess90, @justwise or anyone with advice on this issue please.

I moved with my spouse to another African country about 2 years ago after he got a better job offer here. We are blessed with 3 kids aged 8, 6 and 2. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a job here, (the country has a small economy), so I decided to switch careers to give myself a better chance of getting a good job.

I then applied for an MSc in the UK, and was able to secure admission, get my CAS and apply for my visa. We also applied for dependent visas for our kids but not for my husband, considering he has a good job which would also fund the expenses for myself and the kids. He also has a subsisting visit visa.

However, we received the notification email today that 2 of our kids' visas were denied dependent visas based on Paragraph ST34.2 of the Immigration rules and based on the following statement: " I am not satisfied that the required level of documentation has been shown in order to prove that your mother has sole responsibility. " We are yet to receive any information on the application of the 2 year old.

Please bear in mind that the supporting documents for the kids' visa applications were from both parents and we even indicated in their forms that we both have parental responsibility for the kids. I do not have sole responsibility for the kids, neither did I claim that in our applications. We also included details of my husband's job and the necessary documents pertaining to that.

In applying for the visas, we read all the requirements on the GOV.UK website but none of the information on the student visa/dependent partner of a student/ dependent child of a student mentions anything about this issue.

Now, we are at crossroads because based on this rule, the interpretation is that the other parent, who is not the main applicant must be willing to be a dependent, which would necessitate them living in the UK with the main applicant and the child dependent(s). This is not an option for us. Also, the kids cannot remain with my husband due to the nature of his job, as it requires a lot of travelling and we do not have any form of social/family support here, as all our family members live in different countries.

The only exception to this rule is subparagraph (C) of Paragraph ST34.2 of the Immigration rules which states that, "unless the decision maker is satisfied that there are serious and compelling reasons to grant the child entry clearance or permission to stay with the parent who
has permission on the Student route or as a dependent partner of a Student."

We do not know what to do next, whether to write to the Home Office directly, apply for an administrative review or reapply for the visa based of the provision in subparagraph (c) as we do not know if our situation constitutes serious and compelling reasons to grant the exception. So far, what I have read online depicts circumstances that are very different from ours.

Please, help a sister! I am trying to be a supportive wife, good mother and still want to build a life for myself. Please anyone with any advice/experience on how to tackle this issue. I would deeply appreciate it. May God bless our hustle!

I do not know if people are just plain judgemental that all sense of reason flies out the window or they just are immature and unexposed but I sense it's a combination of all these things.

Now I do not excuse what your wife did but please let he who is without sin cast the first stone. She has begged your forgiveness and sincerely I see no reason why she cant be forgiven, after all to err is human and to forgive is divine.

Marriage is not just about procreation but also about commitment and most of all companionship and I believe it's the latter that brings about procreation. However, suppose fathering your own child is quite important to you and you have a right to that but not at the expense of your marriage! Besides there are so many ways of achieving that right now with the limitless opportunities science has provided. Asides IVF which might not be encouraging due to your wife's age, you can employ a surrogate to carry the pregnancy to term for you. If gay people can have children of their own, I wonder why a straight couple cant. Its all about making use of all the information readily available and being OPEN MINDED about its use. I sincerely hope and pray you can find it in your heart to really FORGIVE your wife and move on to achieving your goal of having and raising your kids together. PS it could happen to anyone as even a 21 year old virgin could have issues with child bearing! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!