₦airaland Forum

Lazyreporta:
Are you aware that just $3k is N1M already in nigeria?

So he's right "IF" he meant in Naira

You call $3k “just”?

Finewithsense:
dont speak anyhow pls
Bianca is a very decent and Principal woman born with a silver spoon

Principal of which secondary school ?

Obviously the only thing that qualifies her is that she answers Mrs Ojukwu.

Juliusmalema:
Why do I have th feeling that Ambode was feeling intimidated by just a British woman.

That is the feeling you have when tramadol is still very fresh in your blood stream

Yyeske:
Let me assume he made that statement, does that warrant the declaration of Biafra with no adequate preparation or international support?

There is no reason to even assume anything as nothing of such is available anywhere..either classified or declassified, either in the open or in secret.

It was a Radio Biafra propaganda on the eve of the war and igbos have latched on that nonsense propaganda as one of the reason they lost the war they lost already even before the beginning of the war

PrecisionFx:
I have already shown u proof (From ur own vanguard newspaper) that Awolowo made that statement publicly n all u can come out with is this trashy reply.

U can keep wallowing in ur bliss of self inflicted ignorance.

Get out of here with your rubbish

A statement made OPENLY should have an audio record. Can you please give a link to such ?

You guys are born to lie without shame

PrecisionFx:
.

i know ur type.

The popular statement by awolowo was made in public by awolowo himself and not radio propaganda. It was so popular to the extent that the British telegraph n American time magazine all wrote about it.

Even chinua achebe affirmed same in his book " There was a Country ""





https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/09/awo-not-make-west-secede/



U can wallow in ur senslessness if it allows u sleep well at Nyt.

If this rubbish is the best you can bring to support your rubbish that Awolowo promised you to secede than you must really be naive. How can a non-military person give you such assurance?

You igbos are something else

PrecisionFx:
Pls answer the question.

Which question? Stop disturbing me if you can’t read

Read read and read and stop listening to uncles tales

PrecisionFx:
nice.

Now have u ever heard about this quote from Chief Obafemi Awolowo?


If the East goes, The west will go?

Any link??

Read the link I gave you, you will see what he said and how igbos turned it upside down later to start claiming what you wrote

Let me quote for you an exercept from the link

The other forgotten document of the civil had a better chance but its absence from circulation for a long time, was no less a tragedy. It was supposedly captured among other tapes of the Biafran Broadcasting Corporation when Enugu fell to Federal troops. The tapes were transcribed with glee, according to Awolowo, by those who thought it would finally nail him for the agreement he reached with Ojukwu to have the Western Region secede with the East as Radio Biafra never stopped insisting. As it turned out no such thing, is to be found in the tapes. Rather Awolowo was making a passionate plea for the continuance of Nigeria as a single political entity.

It was radio Biafra propaganda, just like Nnamdi Kanu radio Biafra telling you how Russia will send you war planes

maoolakanm:
THEY SHOULD NOT THREATEN BUT NEGOTIATE WITH PMB FOR HIM TO HAND OVER TO A CREDIBLE IGBO MAN.KEN NNAMANI IS MY MAN ANY DAY.

So na so you wan practice your own democracy? Buhari should just hand over to you without election. You igbos always want the easy way out.

Shayetet13:
[s]Your laziness or bias will not let you get facts readily available. Calling hard facts conjectures. Anyways, there is no need to continue a conversation that leads no where. If you decide to check if i am right or wrong, that's up to you. In the meantime, the discussion is over![/s]

If you don’t have any meaningful contribution to the conversation, log off and get away

PrecisionFx:
please answer my question.

The question is: if Ojukwu signed the warrant, how did the effectuation of the warrant wait for so long until it coincided with the order given by Lt.Col Yakubu Gowon at the head of the revenge coup, for Awolowo to be released? This is an important question because Awolowo was not released until seven months after the first coup of the year. The historic task fell upon the revenge coup makers who had toppled General Aguiyi Ironsi after a rigorously organized pogrom against the Igbo, with a number of other Southerners added to the kill. It was certainly to gain a wider base than their Northern security ambitions allowed that the release of Awolowo from Calabar Prison was announced.

It leaves a sneaking feeling that Ojukwu’s powers over the Eastern Region, to which all Igbo in the Nigerian diaspora had to return in search of a safe haven, had not yet become so all-pervasive as to be able to countermand a swiftly executed decision by Federal authorities intent on releasing Awolowo from jail. Nor would it have been politic for Ojukwu, even if he had the power, to attempt to prevent Awolowo from being released after a Federal order to that effect. It would have amounted to holding Awolowo hostage. Could it be said then that in order not to fall into the role of ostage taker, Lt. Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu, as Military Governor of the Eastern Region carried out an order

That will answer you

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/awolowo-and-the-forgotten-documents-of-the-civil-war-by-odia-ofeimun-3/amp/

Shayetet13:
[s]Do the search. Its all there in the internet! I will not make it easy for you! The northerners on the advice of the british put awolowo into the government to bring the yorubas onboard, with the promise of making him the president later on, since he was the yoruba leader. The northerners however never trusted him. After the war, and he has served his purpose,you saw how the northerners treated him and later killed him when he started protesting that they are not keeping to the[/s]end of their bargain of making him president.

Stop boring me with rubbish conjectures

PrecisionFx:
Pls sir who released Awolowo and from which prison was he released?

You want us to debate this ? With facts?

When you read some statement from some of the SE groups, you will have a feeling there is Tramadol in the water they drink in that enclave

dochenaj:
Aguiyi obviously was not a violent man, and that was the more reason that he refused to believe there was mutiny in the army and had blind trust in his Chief of Staff. The same apathy towards violence was what made him to keep the coup plotters in prison.

Ojukwu might get some blame for how he managed the war, and how he treated his lieutenants. I don't believe the secession was a bad call considering the massive killings of Igbos both civilian and military going on in the North without any decisive action from Gowon.

He was however not doing badly in the war initially until his lieutenants became disgusted with how he managed the victories won and decided to withdraw from conquered territories. And unfortunately that action cost the likes of Ifeajuna, Banjo, etc their lives as they were eventually executed for treason. And with that a growing dissension from the lieutenants and viola Biafra fell.

Azikiwe had ambitions of being the president of the largest black nation in the world. And it was said ambition that made him and Awolowo to not support the secession. In hindsight, I laugh at both men in Spanish.

Awolowo clearly supported this and Referendum, but Zik and Ahmadu Bello sold the impression that Awolowo was having a secessionist idea and therefore his call for that to be inserted in the Independence conference. They practically blackmailed Awo!

Read this link and you will want to bring Zik alive and kill him again



https://www.google.com/amp/s/elombah.com/amp/how-zik-denied-ethic-groups-right-to-secede-by-akib-abiola

Opening paragraph

Most people don’t know that it was Zik who opposed Awo against the provision for secession in our constitution.

If Zik had not opposed Awolowo and if he had not won the day, there would have been no justification to fight Ojukwu for secession and definitely no need for this second round of Biafra agitation.

It was an Igbo man who laid the Bobby trap that later caught off the Biafrans legs for self-determination.

Shayetet13:
Am not here to exchange words with you. Tell me the history book you have read. As for Ojukwu releasing Awolowo from calabar prison with an agreement, you will see it all over the internet and also in CIA redacted files online.

“You will see it on the internet and CIA redacted files”

Why not simply do us a favour and provide a link to your weird claim!

Ojukwu released Awo and awo stepped into the west and Gowon then made him Finance minister.

Igbos and weird tales by month light are like

But for the diplomatic consequences, South Africa and most Asian countries would have profiled igbos between the ages of 18 years to 50 years.

Shayetet13:
[s]And which history book have you been reading? In that your history book, what agreement did Ojukwu reach with Awolowo after he released him from Calabar prison[/s]?

Stop this foolish lie!! Provide fact and stop the nonsense your village war losers told you

Zico5:
These Igbo may go extinct with the way they are being killed in south Africa and Asia. Why is it so difficult for them to deal in genuine business oversea.Why are they disgracing this country like this? I wonder what moral standard the parents in that enclaves are teaching their wards. This is really a shameful act to the elders in that region. vanity upon vanity. ile aye ile asan. May their souls rest in hell.

The truth is that for every Igbo caught for crime in the abroad, there are other hundred still doing the crime there and yet to be caught and there are still millions of them at home praying to travel to go and hustle- an euphemism meaning to go and do crime for money.

It's like it is a RACE in Igboland

These are the issues that should bother the elders in Igboland, but they are more interested in Tinubu not becoming APC presidential candidate in 2023

Lmao!

That is the only thing I can do here!

Brawn over brain!! The Ibo political malaise and affliction.

Why is OYC interested in the politics of APC all of a sudden?

Why running from cops if you are legit ?

These folks and criminality outside Nigeria shore are like

RillJ:
CONCLUSION:

Unitary or Federalism is not our problem but rather how we chose as a country to operate our system of govt. U may as well blame Nigeria woes on federalism and the person that introduced it.

Let Nigeria practice true federalism and you will see how beautiful it will look on the country.

Ultimately that will lead to regionalism and the positive competition that will engender can only benefit all of us as a nation and citizens

RillJ:
Bro, you really have no idea what is killing this country. Check this out!

“Of the 193 UN member states, 165 are governed as unitary states”

China, France, UK, Italy, Spain
are some of the notable countries that practice Unitary Form of Govt in the world today. Do these countries have the kind of challenges that Nigeria has self-inflicted upon herself?

Ironsi was/is not our problem unless we want to continue in the pathetic delirium of boot-licking our oppressors while blaming their wickedness on those manly enough to heap dirt on.

Those countries you referred to are almost 100% homogeneous unlike Nigeria where our differences can be touched and not just feel.

Why do you think our idea of federalism was borrowed from America? Because of the strong differences in America make up!! Meanwhile Nigeria is even more heterogeneous and way more diverse than America.

A unitary form of govt is only workable in an homogeneous country.

omoelerin1:
Are you saying it was Igbo that championed Nigerian's independence? Are you saying Igbo were the major group and personalities that went to London for constitutional conferences? Are you saying it was Igbo that negotiated for Nigeria's independence? You must be joking.

NPN was a party that belong to the north and led by Ahmadu Bello, NCNC was strong in the east and led by Azikiwe, AG was a Western region party and led by Awolowo. Now, tell me which party first moved 'self rule' motion in 1953? Is it not Awolowo's party?
Have you ever heard of ibadan constitutional conference in January 1950? What about Lagos conference in 1953? Which party do you think was responsible for London conference in 1954 which was instrumental to Littleton constitution?
You don't know what you're saying.

That is the sort of feel good lies their elders in the villages sold to them.

The same elders lied to them that Ojukwu father owned the Roll-Royce that the Queen used on her first visit to Nigeria in Kano

izombie:
you call saying things as they are insult abi. Kanu called nigeria a zoo, was he wrong? You talk of 2nd niger bridge but let me ask you, in a united country do the igbos have to cry for 2nd niger bridge? It should be built because it's what is good for nigeria and not only the igbos. Things are never done in this country if it will only benefit the igbos. You can't eat your cake and have it. If you really want to know whether the igbos want to go or not just conduct a referendum.

If I have such power, I won’t even bother with referendum, I will just push every single one of you back across the river and build a wall to fence you out.

We will all be saved from all these daily headaches of Yoruba vs Igbos vs Hausas

izombie:
yes, we will cry for 2nd niger bridge because we are still part of nigeria. We will continue going to the south west and any other part of nigeria because we are part of nigeria. And yes we will continue to call on UN if igbos are threatened to leave the north because the north is also part of nigeria. You can't ask someone to leave his country,can you? And yes we will continue to do this one nigeria until everyone is fed up and the country is divided. If you don't want it like that then let's divide it now. Na una go tire.

Pikin that says his mama no go sleep will suffer insomnia.
Na una go dey continue to bear the brunt of python dances.

Moorish:
We must assume they truly intend to go

Are u in the igbo mind ?

Nigeria should

1. Demand some sort of post breakup compensation from biafra that will enable us move past oil .

2. Discuss and agree on terms of engagement post breakup (business and travel constraints)

3. Break up respectfully

I can’t assume what their intentions are but I can only judge by their actions.

Begging and crying for 2NB to link them with the SW is not an action of people that want to go.

Spending over 350 days in a year with people they want to severe relationships with is not an action of people that want to go.

Crying and threatening to report Arewa people to the UN when they were asked to leave their region is not action of people that want to go away.

Biafra cry is nothing but politics of arm-twisting and it will never work

izombie:
it's not your business where any nigerian chooses to reside in nigeria. After all it's one nigeria right? My issue with your earlier post that i replied to is that you said igbos don't really want to go. And i made it clear to you that yorubas who claim they want us out of nigeria are always the first ones to antagonise anything biafra or igbo. You can call us chestbeating all you like but the fact remains that igbos have always backed up our words with actions.

I still maintain Yorubas have no reason not to let you go! If you take the opinion of faceless people on Nairaland as that of only yorubas then you are not wise!
Nnamdi Kanu bungled your whole agenda immediately he started attacking other tribes by calling them unprintable names.
The whole of internet is still litter with his various abuses and indiscretion. Blame him if you truly want to go!!

You want to go and you are to this moment crying for another 2nd niger bridge to connect to western nigeria, you indeed want to go

albaniy1:
And ibgo people are hailing TY danjumma for hate speech about fg forgetting that he is the one who lead the squad that kill ironsi when everyone is afraid by then...

They simply lack focus of what they want in Nigeria

Moorish:
I have also reported your post (The last paragraph) to the moderators

Thanks

I didnt insult anyone in particular. My reference is general to those that goes about disturbing Nigerians on SM with their wailings

Obviously you don’t know how the rules work here

izombie:
[s]please shut up. Everyday the yorubas keep showing why they have been labelled the problem with nigeria by all. Just look at these people. Which tribe attacked nnamdi kanu the most? Which tribe was against anything biafra the most? Which id1ots opened threads here daily just to antagonise biafra and igbos? Which tribe kept going on about how biafra would not work? No yoruba person can do jack. You people are pathetic, two faced and untrustworthy. You people applauded the operation python dance. You want the igbos out of nigeria but when they demonstrate for biafra you label them terrorists. I know and you know it and the rest of nigeria knows that the only reason an igbo man cannot be elected president is the fear that the igbo president will divide nigeria sharp sharp and give igbos biafra.
If you think the igbos don't really want to go then conduct a referendum. Go sidon jo.[/s]

Your anger and tantrum can’t stop the obvious facts!

Yorubas are very few in Igboland,
There are more igbos living in Lagos than igbos living in Ebonyi
There are more Ibos living in the SW than igbos living in Ebonyi and Enugu combined.

Now, you tell me who is forming over familiarity with the other

Foolish people that barks and barks daily on the SM but are hopelessly powerless in real life

Shayetet13:
You are speaking as though Ojukwu woke up one day without any provocation to declare biafra? When you want to condemn Ojukwu's action, atleast consider the totally unprovoked massacre of Igbo race severally in the north. As the leader of the eastern states, what other option is there to react to the senseless killings? Order killing back? He is no animal! So what other option is there? Cower and accept the continuous killings? Igbos we know are no cowards. His decision to succeed was the best line of action. His mistake probably was that he trusted a certain tribe so much to keep up to their end of an agreement. If that tribe didn't agree at first, he would have considered other options towards the succession declaration.

Which agreement and which other tribe ?

The truth is your fathers lost the war woefully so and therefore will look for all excuses to justify such a terrible lost.
There was NEVER any agreeement whatsoever with any other tribe, if you are calling the admonition that Awo have to the FG that Nigeria should not push igbos out of Nigeria or else he will have no choice but to take yorubas too out of Nigeria as an agreement then you lack comprehension.

You fathers lost the the first and only war they’ve ever engaged woefully and it has nothing to do with yorubas.

You igbos we’re doing very well in the northern flank at the beginning of the war until you decided to bring Yorubas into the war by opening another flank towards the SW. if you’ve concentrated and face the northern flank, perhaps the story could have been different

Read more history books and not the ones written by Achebe and stories from your uncles that lost the war.