₦airaland Forum

Ganzagangan:
The hate is actually mutual!

The thing is that, most other tribes actually plattered truce to the igbos even after the war decades ago.

But the igbos always come up with the civil war card and it's attendant disparation of tribal and religious bigotry. How unendingly can you live in peace with a discordant people?

Whatever the reason for their hate and vituperations, it has only succeeded in reaping the protracted hate and distrust in multiple folds.

You get what you give, see?

If any Yoruba man have the chance today to kick them to their Biafra, , they will all be gone already, but the problem is THEY don’t really want to go, they’ve only turned the Biafra noise as a tool of blackmail and Nigerians know that already now.

ShinskeNakamura:
You know the oil soup lickers usually think they are smart. But 2023 will teach them a very bitter lesson. Lets see how a Yoruba man will ever rule this country again!

Lmao! You are really bitter!! Every affliction affecting you igbos is caused by Yoruba people

Which Yoruba man promised you Presidency, if you need clarification about your promise, go and meet Boss Mustapha

Back to OP
The name Ironsi evokes a tribalistic, foolish, self-serving, greedy, Mr Decree 34 man. A typical Ibo man!

He was killed like a common dog. May his soul Rest permanently in the deepest part of hell fire

Moorish:
And that presidency of Jonathan’s did show that the east do hate the idea of a 1 Nigeria and the igbos are mostly self serving as a race.

Look, we have deep rooted issues

I am in Nigeria and my well being and hers are co dependent hence this thread

I don’t get why you are yapping about but I can assure you that the igbos can’t get the Presidency by the current strategy of evoking guilt on and blackmail.
The more they go that way, the more they will be resented.

The closest an Igbo will become President in nigeria soon will be through someone like Rotimi Amaechi

Moorish:
You cannot tell an angry, neglected, aggrieved and oppressed people what they should and should not do

They will constitute a contemptuous element within the Nation if you ignore their cry

This is very unhealthy for Nation building

They were not angry, rejected, neglected and oppressed under PDP for 16 years but suddenly realized all these when Buhari they didn’t vote for assumed power?

All these noise is nothing but fear of retribution, attention seeking and probably a blackmail for political concessions

naijapips04:
Go back and read the news item I posted.

Show us the part of the railway project that GEJ started in the SE.

mrroy91:
Of course some section will see this tread as wailing so far the girls names ain't Aisha or Kemisola.

Just know that when you deny a people representation and deprive them participation you are forcing them to rethink their existence.

So if you are denied such, you will rethink your existence by ending your life ?

Why do you guys seek and crave for attention from the Buhari you all like to insult like this is quite amusing and nauseating at same time

eduj:
people like you overstate issues,I don't see how an igbo man wouldn't become Nigerias president in my lifetime,be it 2023 or 2050.As long as Nigeria remains one,bigoted peeps like you should know that an igbo man would rule oneday.Back to the topic,don't see most of the igbo , apart from ngige in the Apc worth being president.For instance,I would vote tinubu rather than ouk who has nothing to offer (am from abia,and I know what he and his mum did to my state) I believe that is what democracy should be and that's how many igbos think.
That being said,Tinubu is a fantastic strategist,but he is overlooking the fact that a yoruba man becoming the president so soon after obj would upset Nigeria's equillibrium-samething that made gej loss.Assuming tinubu wins, it would put to an end the political future of many SE's like ouk,onu,ngige etc(I expect those men to fight with nothing held back,its one battle they dare not lose),it would also cause a dramatic swell in the ranks of those calling for" Biafra" in the east.
I believe the greatest thing that might come from a Tinubu presidency,is that he seems bold enough to restructure or begin the procedure for an egaliterian Nigeria.
by the way,can you honestly tell me that if buhari hadn't choosen osibanjo as the vp,that the SW would have given him such votes? can truthfully claim that your people are going to vote him again ,because he is the best thing that happened ti Nigeria since lord luggard? Maybe your answer would help you now pinpoint the ethnic group that's both selfish and greedy.

Absolutely yes when you compare with

1: Those parading themselves as candidates in PDP now

2: In term of infrastructure, he has performed better in the SW than PDP did

3: The PDP is still the same, nothing has changed and so it will be preposterous to give them another chance in 2019.

cheruv:
It's not bad if we blackmail Nigeria the same way buhari did with BH and got the presidency.. and you know we're the only Nation in Nigeria that can actually carry out their threat ..

I think to qualify as a true Igbo person, you must be a good chest beater!

Ordinary operation Python dance for a week, you all scampered in different directions such that up till now the whereabout of your main man is not known to anybody

Abeg stop the silly joke

amaniro:
Say no to Xenophobia!

This is not Xenophobia unless you don’t kno the meaning of the word.

This is most likely Igbo on Igbo killing.

December would be brutal in the SE as they will trail one another to the villages

Na wa..you guys wail virtually over everything thing!! No matter how mundane or trivial

selemempe:
who get A1 for skull mining and agbero??

The money rituals you do daily, what do you use ?

gracedarwin08:
What did tinubu do by flooding the street with thugs and thief, whatever investment that was brougth has nothing to do with but the president in person of olusegun obasanjo as at then, when ever he brings in investment they choose to invest in lagos because its close to raw material because the only route in ehich the raw material will be shipped to the country is through sea which lagos is blessed with that than any other state in the country

Write in igbo, some Igbo people will help to translate into proper English

What exactly is the issue with theee people ?

No week pass, without a sad news involving them in the abroad.

PrecisionFx:
[s]
"" Did he need to create states to end regionalism the way he did ""

U said Gowon created more states, That means Ironsi created states as well.

OR ARE U RETRACTING UR STATEMENT? ?

ARE U SAYING IRONSI DIDNT CREATE STATES??[/s]

Stop boring me with your useless rants

irrefragable:
Gurnam, my paddy. No fighting. You and your people are just cowards. Case closed

Ok, if that put food on your empty stomach

Meanwhile all your political leaders are the present day cowards in Nigeria

I'm sure the idiotic pig pastor don't have a PVC.

Where exactly is this his SURULERE STADIUM?

irrefragable:
A coward would always see acts of bravery as foolishness and his cowardly stance as wisdom but ask him when is he ever going to display an act of bravery that's wise.......?

Mention one act of bravery you've ever done aside your online noise on an anonymous forum like NL .

It easy for you to open your mouth to call anyone a coward on a platform like NL you know.

irrefragable:
history is so replete with our acts of bravery. The latest is our continued street protests despite the bullets from your armed forces.

Can you see how foolish you sound already . You call indiscretion and foolishness bravery and that is the reason no one is surprise anytime you call Ojukwu or Kanu brave men.

PrecisionFx:
If Afonjas did 50% of what IGBOS did during the last IPOB uprising, We would have seen a full restructure n regional govt by now.

It obvious you are sure Igbos need the afonjas to untie themselves from Nigeria. We are learning daily.

irrefragable:
If it was an Igbo man that was saying that then I would understand what you imply that he's trying to bait igbos ; but for an afonja that's already known as a two-faced bastard..... Sorry, bro, try again.

I don't deal with your gutter type. I will only refer you to Myndd44 to take the appropriate action.

irrefragable:
A coward would always claim to be civilized and strategic in planning but you will never see his strategy and planning in display.

In the entire Igbos history, point to one positive act of bravery. It's very easy for a glaring coward to call another person a coward.

Even in the present political dispensation, your political leaders are the most cowardly in Nigeria since 1999.

irrefragable:
Afonjas on the beat again....baiting Igbos. W[b]hy can't south-west youths rescue Nigeria? Is he indirectly admitting that his people are cowards[/b]?

No, he understand Yoruba youths are too civilized and educated to sell that kind of crap to, they will ask him what is stopping him from leading from the front. But with Igbos, you just can easily have your way with such talk.

PrecisionFx:
Please answer my question Sir.

U said Gowon only created more states and I asked....


Which states did Aguiyi Ironsi create

Shut up and stop your act of diversion. Read up my post above!
Did he need to create states to end regionalism the way he did.

Igbos by their deed created the political mess that Nigeria is in today and still trying to find a way through.

General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) Decree 1966. Decree No 1 dated January 17, 1966 but not published in the Official Gazette until March 4, 1966. He then issued public order Decree No 33 dated May 24, 1966 which dissolved eighty-one political associations and twenty-six tribal and cultural associations.

At the early stage of his tenure, he appointed a three-man advisory team made up of Chief Francis Nwokedi, a Permanent Secretary, Dr. Pius Charles Nwabafor Okigbo (1924-2000) and Colonel Patrick Anwunah, who later became Chairman and Head of the Orientation Committee at that time. He replaced the then Attorney-General and Minister of Justice, Dr. Taslim Olawale Elias (1914-1991) with Chief Gabriel Chike Michael Onyiuke (SAN), former Director, Public Prosecution, Eastern Nigeria (1960-1965) who is from Nimo in present Anambra State.

In a speech to the nation on January 28, 1966, he denounced the ills of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. “All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism. Tribal loyalties and activities which promote tribal consciousness and sectional interests must give way to the urgent task of national reconstruction. The Federal Military Government will preserve Nigeria as one strong nation.” He then went on to promise “administrative reforms” and referred specifically to several matters in which regional as well as personal interests were known to have had decisive influence. These were official appointments, public investments, and the universities.

He promised that”in the public services, efficiency and merit will be the criteria for advancement.” That industrial development would be “coordinated to avoid wasteful duplication of industrial projects”, and that the universities would be “re-orientated to serve the genuine interest of our people”. Immediately after the speech, two Governors kicked against the proposal. They were, Major General David Akpode Ejoor (83) who is from Ovu in the present Delta State, then serving as the Military Governor of the Mid-Western region and Major General Hassan Usman Katsina (1933-1995), who was then serving as Governor of the Northern region.

Lt. Col. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu (1933-2011), Military Governor of Eastern Region welcomed the decree while Lt.Col. Francis Adekunle Fajuyi (1926-1966), Military Governor of Western Region did not comment on the promulgation of the decree. Lt-Col. Ejoor was reported as saying that the ’National Government’ set up by the army was the prelude to ‘the re-introduction of a unitary form of government’ and insisted that it would create future problems. Shortly afterwards, the Supreme Military Council announced that a senior government official, Mr. Nwokedi, had been asked to consider and to report to the Supreme Military Council on the establishment of ‘an administrative machinery for a united Nigeria’ and the ‘unification of the Public Services and Judicial Services’.

In his own speech on February 19 at the Kaduna Airport, the Governor of Northern region, Lt-Col. Hassan Katsina said he was not aware as a member of the then Supreme Military Council on the modalities of the proposed National Government. “Am afraid the egg is about to be broken”. On February 21, 1966, General Ironsi again addressed the nation on the issue, he said: “On the question of the political future of the country, the experiences and mistakes of the previous governments in the Federation have clearly indicated that far-reaching constitutional reforms are badly needed for peaceful and orderly progress towards the realisation of our objectives. I have already touched on some of the major issues involved in recent broadcast to the nation. It has become apparent to all Nigerians that rigid adherence to ‘regionalism’, was the bane of the last regime and one of the main factors which contributed to its downfall. No doubt, the country would welcome a clean break with the deficiencies of the system of government to which the country has been subjected in the recent past. A solution suitable to our national needs must be found. The existing boundaries of governmental control will need to be re-adjusted to make for less cumbersome administration’.

As a follow up on May 25, General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) (No. 5) Decree 1966. Decree No. 34 (the ‘Unification Decree’). After the promulgation, the country was thrown into turmoil and crisis which led to demonstration particularly in many parts of Northern Nigeria at that time. On his return to Kaduna on May 27, Col. Hassan Katsina was besieged with demands for an explanation. It was feared that in a unified service Northerners would be at a disadvantage. It was no consolation that the Decree provided for the delegation of appointments and promotions, except the most senior, to Provincial Civil Service Commissions.

With its authority challenged and shown to be weak, at least in large parts of the North, the National Military Government had little option but to proffer its assurances and to explain its actions. The Supreme Military Council met on June 7 and 8, 1966 and issued the following statement: “the public must not be led to confuse the Military Government with government by a civilian regime under a constitution approved by the people.

Nobody will expect the present Military Government to cease to function until new constitution has been approved or to be compelled to operate the old system of government with its obvious weakness. It cannot be too seriously emphasised that the Military Government while in office can only run the government as a military government under a unified command. It cannot afford to run five separate governments and separate services as if it were a civilian regime.

Final decisions on the territorial structure of the country and the public services will be matters for the Constituent Assembly and the referendum”.

The Supreme Military Council also decided that General Ironsi should invite traditional rulers from all parts of the country to a meeting to be held in Lagos as soon as possible and that the Military Governors would immediately summon similar meetings in their own Regions. This was presumably an attempt to improve the channels of communications. There had in fact already been a meeting of Northern Emirs and Chiefs in Kaduna on June 4, and the Military Governor had been given a list of grievances and recommendations to take to Lagos”. The Emirs and Chiefs met again on 16 June to receive General Ironsi’s reply.

Sadly on July 29, 1966, General Ironsi and the Military Governor of Western Region, Lt. Col. Francis Adekunle Fajuyi were murdered in Ibadan during a meeting with the traditional rulers from all parts of the country.

Once again, may Ironsi and his Igbo backers rots in hell

Shortly afterwards, the Supreme Military Council announced that a senior government official, Mr. Nwokedi, had been asked to consider and to report to the Supreme Military Council on the establishment of ‘an administrative machinery for a united Nigeria’ and the ‘unification of the Public Services and Judicial Services’.

Northerners were clearly not interested in the devilish act of Ironsi

As a follow up on May 25, General Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification) (No. 5) Decree 1966. Decree No. 34 (the ‘Unification Decree’). After the promulgation, the country was thrown into turmoil and crisis which led to demonstration particularly in many parts of Northern Nigeria at that time. On his return to Kaduna on May 27, Col. Hassan Katsina was besieged with demands for an explanation. It was feared that in a unified service Northerners would be at a disadvantage. It was no consolation that the Decree provided for the delegation of appointments and promotions, except the most senior, to Provincial Civil Service Commissions.

Ejoor saw tomorrow that Ironsi and his Igbo backers couldn't see

Lt-Col. Ejoor was reported as saying that the ’National Government’ set up by the army was the prelude to ‘the re-introduction of a unitary form of government’ and insisted that it would create future problems.

PrecisionFx:
"" Gowon only created additional states ""

So which state did Ironsi create?

Ironsi abolished regionalism by his decree 34! Get that into your skull

phase1:
If I am expected to educate an old man like you about Gowon's decree 8 and 14 then it is finished. I have better luck at successfully trying to explain nuclear physics to my 2 year old nephew.

Get out! Decree 8 which is about federal and legislative power has been in existence right from the onset, it only vested the use in the Supreme Military council instead of Federal executive council that hirtheto excecise such power!

You bloody liars want to rewrite Nigeria history


Decree No. 8 of 1967

The main feature of this Decree in the vesting in the Supreme Military
Council of both the legislative and executive powers of the Government
of the Federation. The Federal Executive Council which has hitherto
exercised these powers has now been divested of them and it is
henceforth to discharge those functions that are specifically
delegated to it by the Supreme Military Council. 2.

phase1:
He created Decree 34, your beloved Gowon came and created Decrees 8 and 14. Yet you blame Ironsi but praise Gowon? You yorubas can be hypocritically obtuse atimes.
You are only blaming Ironsi because he is Igbo nothing more. You must be really dense to hate Decree 34 and then love and tolerate Gowon's decrees 8 and 14 and hail Gowon as a hero. Your revisionism and hypocrisy will be laid bare.

Tell us what those decrees you mentioned were meant to do!

You see the more you guys try to write this kind of rubbish, the more you show your lack of remorse to what was done by some actors in the mess we are today and the far away you are from your Biafra dream

phase1:
yoruba man, why have you refused to blame Gowon and north who effectively ended the regional government? Is it because you are not born brave enough to challenge your northern masters but think you can take a cheap jibe at Easterners?

Stop re-writing history. Gowon didn’t create DECREE 34, that was done by Ironsi. The decree effectively turned Nigeria into a Unitary form of govt.

Gowon created states just to break the power of the regions.

PrecisionFx:
Gowon ended the regional government in Nigeria.

Stop lying.
Gowon only created additional states.
The abrogation of the regions was done via unitary decree 34 that turned Nigeria to a unitary form of government that everyone looks towards the center.
May Ironsi rot in the deepest part of hell fire

DonCorleons:
ur wrong bro

very wrong


it should be: may all coup plotters in nigeria die........................ Including the dullard and vegetable u av as presidiot

I’m talking here of bloody coups that troll place less than 6 years of Nigeria independence when the young country was led astray from the intentions of the founders