davidif: See logic! The fact that I don't earn a million naira for a bride price does not mean that one is not ready to marry it might simply mean that it is way beyond his budget. You don't need to have a million to to live day to day as husband and wife. You can cut your cloth according to your size. If the bride price is more than your budget then that's plain cruelty.
Culture should never reign supreme. Knowledge, logic and reason Trump culture any day any time. No wonder this continent is still a mess after all this years.
Yoruba man obsessed with Igbos, y am i not suprised that u are still on this thread.
Wat do u aim to achieve? Igbo drop their culture an practice Yoruba culture?
We pay ur wedding expenses and as soon as we give birth and it is a girl, we carry her and give u or datch u after raising her?
I am trying very hard to understand wat exactly u want from us.
berrystunn: What do you know about Igbo's and their traditions ?
Every village in Igbo land have their different requirements for traditional marriage. They will provide you a list and all the steps needed for the traditional marriage...
No body will force the list on you if you are not capable, Or if you needed more time or years to get things done.. No problem
The stupid girl saw the list or know about the requirements before the marriage... But she waited till after the marriage... Before oppose the list in public...
For your information is not the Father , the list is from the village community/kinsmen.
That is the reason why they take the marriage to the village ,If not the father will choose to receive his in-laws in Lagos or else where....
WHILE BUHARI COLLECT 12 GOLD COIN ON ZAHRA FOR HIS OWN POCKET AS BRIDE PRICE.
LAZY ASS MEN THAT ABANDON THEIR FREE WOMEN, WANT WHO EXACTLY TO FOOT THEIR WEDDING EXPENSES IN IGBOLAND?
davidif: First of all not every Yoruba person spends money on "owambe" so get your facts straight. Secondly, marriage is a beautiful and honorable thing but unfortunately some unscrupulous and greedy families have commercialized it and used it as an avenue to satisfy their lust for money. The truth of the matter is that some people are simply slaves to greed and won't mind selling their own children for money. Utterly shameless.
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GUY, U SOUND BROKE, GET OFF LINE AND FIND A PROPER MEANS OF MAKING MONEY.
I AM TIRED OF ALL UR EXCUSES AND LOVE DEFNCE RUBBISH.
MARRIAGES THESE DAYS ARE HIGHLY FINANCIAL AND HAVE VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH LOVE.
U MUST BE BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE AND UR PARTNER MOST COMPLIMENT YOUR EFFORT IN HIS OR HER OWN WAY.
davidif: Not everyone "leaves their place and looks for a foreigner to marry". Some people simply just run into other people that they are attracted to and who they have chemistry with and that they happen to have chemistry with. That's life and that's part of the human experience. In simpler terms, love just happens and it is a beautiful thing until all the ugliness like greed, prejudice, tradition and tribalism begin to come into play. No one is born from the womb hating someone of a different tribe, its something they learn from their parents, friends and their society.
U ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT SPEND MILLIONS ON OWAMBE BUT DAT LOVE CANNOT DRIVE U TO SPEND MILLION ON UR OWN WEDDING.
IGBO CULTURE VIEW WEDDING AS ONCE IN A LIFE TIME OCCASION.
davidif: The fact that something has been done from the olden days does not mean its correct. In calabar, twins were seen as devilish back in the day and were supposed to be killed. Did that make it the right thing? Abeg think this through and be objective. This is human greed hiding itself under the clothing of 'tradition.'
BRO, GO AND MARRY YOUR YORUBA WOMEN, I MEAN, HER PARENTS WILL FOOT THE WEDDING EXPENSES.
THAT IS WAT U WANT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, NO IGBO PARENT PRAY TO HAND ANY OF THEIR CHILDREN TO NON IGBO, THEIR DREAM IS THAT THEIR CHILD MARRIES FROM THEIR OWN CULTURE.
ALL CULTURES, INCLUDING RACES HAVE THIS PRINCIPLE. IT IS DEFENSIVE MECHANISM, AS THEY ASPIRE TO CONTINUE THEIR CULTURE AND KEEP THEIR IDENTITY.
SO FOR U TO LEAVE YOUR PLACE AND AN IGBO PARENT WEIVE THEIR DREAM AND ALLOW U A FOREIGNER TO MARRY THEIR DAUGHTER, U SHOULD DO SO QUIETLY AND GO AWAY.
BRIDE PRICE IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO IGBO CULTURE, IT IS WIDESPREAD ACROSS AFRICA.
MARRIAGE IS NOT MEANT TO BE CHEAP, I MEAN PEOPLE EVEN SPEND MORE ON OWANBE AND BAR EXPENSES AT THE CLUB.
MARRAGE NEED TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT AREADY IS, SIMPLY TO DETER MEN FROM GOING FOR SECOND WIFE.
IF NOT, BY THE TIME IGBO CONVERT TO YORUBA WAY OF THE DAUGHTER PARENTS FOOTING THE WEDDING EXPENSES, THEN TOMORROW, U WILL HEAR HE HAS GONE TO MARRY ANOTHER AND EVEN MORE WIFE.
MARRIAGE IS NOT FOR THE WRETCHED, THE KIDS DID NOT COME TO THE WORLD TO GO HUNGRY.
MARRIAGE IS NOT FOR THE JOBLESS, BECOS SOON U WILL TAKE UR FUSTRATION OUT ON ANOTHER MAN DAUGHTER THAT STUPIDLY FOLLOWED YOU.
MARRIAGE IS NOT ALL ABOUT LOVE, IT IS ABOUT CULTURE CONTINUITY AND MAINTAINING THE FAMILY LEGACY BY HAVING CHILDREN TO CONTINUE THE LINEAGE.
humilitypays: there is no rise in dowry, people just come online to rant when they knew ahead they weren't prepared to settle down.
How many Igbo men do you see complaining about paying whether Igbo woman o, Yoruba woman o, Hausa woman o, Fulani woman or Oyimbo woman dowry
In fact, Igbo guys are known for paying more than the usual bride price of their bride, why Because we so much value our bride and are happy to have her in our life.
Some tribe collect penny for bride price, but other expenditures will make you scream.
President Buhari collected 10naira or so as bride price for Zhara Buhari, but did u hear that the groom bought expensive jewelries, clothes, etc for the family which is how Fulani's does their own, why not go and tell them to reduce it
Yorubas collect penny for bride price, but the money they spend on the wedding party alone can build an estate. In fact, they spend a fortune on the wedding party which makes their own wedding higher in expense, yet Igbos don't scream and complain Yorubas change their party way.
THIS IS FOR BUHARI POCKETS NOT EVEN COMMUNITY, BUT YET WEN EVER THESE NON-IGBOS ARRIVE IGBO LAND AND DEY ARE PROVIDED WITH MATERIALS FOR THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION THEY START COMPLAINING.
Y CANT DEY JUST MARRY THEIR OWN WOMEN? WAT IS PURSUINING THEM?
Igholize: ...... Mr Igbo, i am amazed at ur response to my comment.... u just talked like a child of which i bliv u are.... did i say in my comment, dat i have issues with Igbo's? sentiments has made u not to reason well. u sounds so pained child. no b only u b Igbo o. u just dey disgrace Igbo by ur silly response
berrystunn: You don't know noting about the Igbo's and their traditions... That stupid girl saw or know what's its required to marry a girl in there village.... And the list was giving to the guy on what and what is needed....
If the guy can not afford the list or need more time to get things done no one will force him to.... fix a date for the marriage....
All am trying to say is that she saw the list and she did not say anything about it till after the marriage...
ALL THE MATERIALS ARE FOR THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATION NOT HER FAMILY.
SO WEN DEY SAY HER FATHER OR FAMILY, I JUST DEY LAUGH.
Igholize: those of you calling her childish, stupid for bringing such private issue to public forums should let her be.... it her personal life nd how she choose to live her life is none of ur concerns. she is pained' d way her lovely husband was treated by her pple nd decided to air her greviances out. like d saying, if u talk' dem go talk. if u no talk' dem go talk.... so, she decided to talk for dem to talk. ndo madam
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TRASH!
IF U ARE NOT IGBO, GO AND MARRY UR OWN WOMEN AND LEAVE IGBOS ALONE.
EVEN FULANI THAT BUTCHER UR LAZY ASS FOR SUYA AND SHARWAMA DONT GET ALL THIS GRIEF.
SHE BETTER ROLL UP HER SLEEVES AND FIND A TRADE BECOS, SHE IS THE BREAD WINNER OF THAT FAMILY.
HER MAN COULD NOT EVEN PASS THE 'MEANS TESTING'.
HOW MUCH DID YOUR BROKE ASS BOYFRIEND USE TO FOOT HIS WEDDING EXPENSES?
Y DID U NOT RUN AND FOLLOW HIM WITHOUT WEDDING AND SEE IF HE VALUES FREE THINGS AFTER MAKING YOU A BABY MAMA AND THEN LEAVE TO PURSUE ANOTHER SLAY QUEEN.
INSTEAD OF THANKING YOUR FATHER FOR MAKING HIM RESPONSIBLE, U ARE BLAMING HIM FOR YOUR JOBLESS HUSBAND.
PARENTS ARE NEVER APPRECIATED AND ALWAYS EASY TO BLAME FOR OUR OWN FAILING.
IS THIS HOW U WILL USELESS YOUR FUTURE KIDS WITH INDISCIPLINE.
ALSO, SHE IS A VERY USELESS GIRL. HOPELESS GIRL! COLLECT SLAP!
ApexPredator: The practice of charging exorbitant bride price to non-Igbos must continue.
MY BROTHER MARRIAGE IS NOT FOR THE WRETCHED.
JUST IMAGINE.
PEOPLE DEY MARRY EVERYDAY, YET ANYTIME THESE NON-IGBOS LEAVE THEIR FREE WOMEN AND ARRIVE IGBO LAND, THEY WANT THEIR INLAW TO FOOT THE BILL FOR THEIR OWN WEDDING.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO SHAME. YOU CANNOT AFFORD A WEDDING AND U HAVE THE GUTS TO DISCLOSE THAT TO THE WORLD
I BLAME IGBO PARENTS THAT TOLERATE INTER-TRIBAL BULL SHIIT FOR ALL THIS INSULT.
WRETCHED PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BRING KIDS INTO THE WORLD TO SUFFER.
THE WORLD IS NOT VERY KIND WEN DEY GO STEALING BECOS THEIR FATHER IS WRETCHED AND LAZY.
sinceraconcept: very wicked Biafra fathers selling their daughters off, and all the money would go down into buying Goat for Isi ewu,Wrapper,walking stick,the cloth with tiger patterns on it,the cloth with Lion head patterns on it,Barrels of Palm wine,Bottles of Seaman's Schnapps,baskets of Kola nuts,Bush meats,marry new wife and other useless things. After buying everything they would be looking for another matured daughter to sell off
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STOP BEGGING TO MARRY IGBO.
GO AND MARRY YOUR CONE HEAD WOMEN.
AS RICH AS BUHARI IS, HE COLLECTED BRIDE PRICE ON ZAHRA.
IT IS A THING OF HONOUR AND WIDE SPREAD ACROSS AFRICA NOT JUST IGBO.
Greenbullet: Some foolish people are here slating Yoruba people, My friend married from a Yoruba Family and guess what, the father -in-law told the boy not to pay a dime for bride price, The cost of the wedding was shared between my friend and the father, right now my friend is in England with his wife, the money he intended to use for the bride price is what he used to process their travelling documents, I am the one in charge of building his house, at roofing stage, if the father was greedy like this IMO state man, the husbands life wouldn't have taken this turn !
PLEASE LEAVE OUR IGBO CULTURE AND FACE YOUR YORUBA CULTURE.
Ishilove: In African tradition it is the man who owns the child once he has legally married the mother, so the Efik ceremony is not necessary. It's just marriage according to Yoruba culture that should be done
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As always, u are wrong and this is y people say women are their own worst enemy.
Africa tradition varies and reforms.
Certain African tradition, as practiced in Ghana and by some tribes in Nigeria such as Urhobo and many more, views the child as belonging to the Mother.
In the UK/US and much of the west, the child belongs to the Mother.
The queen of England(Queen Elizabeth) is married to a Greek man but the children are all English.
Wat do u think her mother is? a slave?
The girl is half Yoruba and half Efik. She even said so herself in the post.
Sit down and speak with all this mixed children, they will tell you that they are half, never claiming only one side.
They never feel complete claiming one side becos they neither feel Yoruba nor Efik completely.
They feel half and half.
They know better becos, they that wear the shoes know where it hurts.
Henryyy: Many yorubas bear english surnames you fool. Names like Coker, Lawrence, Lopez, Williams, Salvador are common among yorubas. But hold on is coker an igbo name? Mumu attache tribe people. Stephanie Eniafe Coker is purely yoruba from Lagos state.
Henryyy: What weed did you smoke? Stephanie Coker is a pure yoruba girl. Abi u dey think say she be igbo before? Get your insecurities under control fam.
THUNDER FIRE U THERE, COKER NA YORUBA NAME. SHE IS MIXED, IDIOT!
U THINK, I DONT KNOW ALL THE WOMEN, I WILL TELL U ABOUT ALL OF THEM ONE BY ONE.
Henryyy: See tears o. Simply because you have lost blatantly. You need help more. Lesson is never boast especially in matters where your opponents are better than you.