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basilo101:
Gbam. The tribe of Gad who lived in Gilead east of the Jordan fled from Assyrian invaders and took river routes from Egypt to igboland and settled among igbos. This is more realistic that falling from the sky

ezeagu:
'Genesis' is Greek...

Obi1kenobi:
The comedian is still posting this useless fabrication that I have debunked again and again. You can consult any of the thousand Hebrew dictionaries online like this one:
https://www.doitinhebrew.com/Translate/default.aspx?kb=US+US&l1=en&l2=iw
Not one single word there is correct. A lion is not called "Agur" in Hebrew. A first daughter is not called "Adah" in Hebrew. A market is not called "Ahi" in Hebrew. Every single word there is a fraud by fraudsters and gullible people like you eat it up because you cannot research, do not have the wisdom to discern what is credible and what is not, and are overwhelmed by your desperation to attach yourself to people that you believe to be far superior to you. You would find several actual common words between Igbo and Yoruba, with similar contexts in meaning even though they are fairly distant cultures. Yet, you don't go around claiming to be Yoruba. Not one single word in this list of garbage is Hebrew. Else, bring the Hebrew dictionary where you saw it.

hammerF:
Were u looking for literal translation after almost 2000 years apart?

The point here is that they use the name Ada in the same way the Igbo of Nigeria use it.

Ada is abrrievation of Adanma or Adanna OR Adah.

This indicates that the name have several meaning and usage.

Adanma means 'beautiful first daughter' Adanna means daddy first daughter.

The Hebrew tradition denotes that the name Adah means beautiful ornament or Adornment.

Traditionally the hebrew use the name Ada to reference first daughter like the biblical Adam reference first man. It is a girls name.

OreMI22:
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[b]You are clearly being mischievous.
Please prove to me that your Oduduwa fell from heaven or that he is even a yoruba at all? You cannot prove it scientifically , just as it cannot be proven easily that Igbo migrated from Israel, yet it is a fact.Your ignorant assumption that the age-long association of Igbo culture with hebrew culture just started with NK or IPOB is unfortunate. Again, let me tell you that this predates the birth of NK or even his father. That tells you how long ago this topic has been researched.

If i marry a Yoruba today, our offspring will be genetically similar to yoruba does not mean that the grand parents were not Igbos. Several years of inter-marriages could have made Igbo look genetically similar with other Africans as they migrated from the middle east to the present Igboland. Now the language affinity is one way to go by it because language is transferred from generation to generation. Although languages evolve in their use and expression over time, they still retain what certain items mean. [/b]

The Igbo language and culture retains great similarity with hebrew language and key elements of the culture despite the great distance between Israel and Igboland. Yet, Igbo language has nothing in common with Yoruba language and culture despite the relative closeness to Yorubaland? Ask yourself to explain that scientifically.

pazienza:
Yes! He was called Katsumoto . He and Dede1 were ice and fire. They just couldn't stop going at it. Physics QED,HMD, etc, (Because he had numerous Physics accounts since he often made long posts and gets banned by spam bot), was flying the Edo flag, his often Edophilic views got him into trouble with fiery Ogbuefi1, he was an Igbophilic Ika man. I remember that Physics had sidekicks by the names Exotik and Bohalal who were bringing Edo to Anioma.
I also remember Aloy Emeka, with his annoying Pro Nigerian stand, while claiming to be Igbo. We had reality101, a real funky Igbo guy. Okija juju was very poor at Igbo impersonation, but he was witty. Andrew Uweh was a quintessential Igbo nationalist, he was gentlemanly with his Andrew Uweh handle, but showed his bad side with his Ngodigha handle.
ChinenyeN was that annoying Ngwa chap that was always playing the politically correct card, and saw pan Igboism as a threat to his Ngwa identity.
Nri priest was always pushing his Nri supremacy agenda , he had guys from Imo/Abia always challenging him, there was one particular Moniker from Abia/Imo that was his nemesis.

Abagworo was the encyclopedia of the complexities and histories of Rivers and Imo states Igbo groups.

And then, there was a certain Urhobo man called Beaf, whose aim was to enthrone GEJ in 2010/11. He became the most popular Man in NL political section, his main rival was a Yoruba man called Gbawe.

ezeagu:
The becomerich guy was too much of a character to not have been a bot.

On nairaland's change, cheap mobile internet...

ChinenyeN:
As the Americans say, chop chop hammerFC. Dump it all here so that we may know which communities and which oral traditions all of us sons and daughters of the soil have so woefully missed, with our collective knowledge of the oral traditions of the various communities in the Lower Niger.

Obi1kenobi:
I only responded to your comical post cos unfortunately, there are gullible people that see the rubbish you post about "aziza", and the hexagram and whatever rubbish you drag out of your arse and it serves to reinforce the Jew-claiming fraud in their minds. This is the comedian that was trying to link a word that means "brother" in Hebrew to "market". I already know you're beyond help, but I'm trying to salvage those who still have hope if I can.

Obi1kenobi:
I only responded to your comical post cos unfortunately, there are gullible people that see the rubbish you post about "aziza", and the hexagram and whatever rubbish you drag out of your arse and it serves to reinforce the Jew-claiming fraud in their minds. This is the comedian that was trying to link a word that means "brother" in Hebrew to "market". I already know you're beyond help, but I'm trying to salvage those who still have hope if I can.

Obi1kenobi:
The hexagram is used on all British and American military swords. The Ulster Banner Flag of Northern Ireland in the UK bore a hexagram. Hundreds of churches in Europe us the Hexagram decoratively on arches, stained glass windows etc. So do Mormons in the US. So do Rastafari. So do many Arab cultures. So do the Freemason fraternity: a once influential fraternity founded in Britain. Even Heathrow airport was shaped like a Hexagram:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagram#/media/File:Aerial_photograph_of_Heathrow_Airport,_1955.jpg

But comedian that you are, you think the British crown using a highly popular symbol on their West African coins is because of Igbos. You're not well at all. Neither are the gullible sheep "liking" your wacky theories.

Ozibe:
Nice one hammer. I am learning

vanbonattel:
You are too much. Too much facts that nobody can argue with you.

ChinenyeN:
Ọchị lei! Lol. Quite graphic. I definitely get your point. Believe me, I'm tempted to be outright dismissive (as I typically am), but I got intrigued as to what evidence he might provide, because this is the first time I'm hearing someone from his camp ever claim to hold local oral tradition as corroboration. It is an opportunity to vindicate his camp. I wanted to see if he would take it.

ChinenyeN:
First of all, I'm nwa afo Ngwa. Let's be on the same page about that.

Secondly, yes, I do recall hearing of the 20th century reauthorization of Obu Uga to Obu Gad. Funny enough, it took almost a century after European contact before the Eri lineage changed Obu Uga to Obu Gad. It is interesting that they never once mentioned anything Israeli or Hebrew related to the Europeans. Hm. Perhaps this is the thing that requires research. As in, why did they not tell the Eurpeans, if indeed they always knew the truth? Even after converting to Christianity, not a single thing jogged their memory. It took 100 years, and the victimization of a Civil War for the Eri lineage suddenly remember that they are a lost tribe of Israel? Interesting. I appreciate the insight. I might stow it away for future and further investigation. Either the Eri lied at the beginning or they lied at the end... This can really call into question any number of the Eri lineage's other claims. Wow. This is groundbreaking, actually. Thank you.

Thirdly, and in lieu of the recent revelations regarding the Eri lineage in this thread, any purported oral tradition that insists on peddling a narrative of Eri being the origin of "ndị Igbo" is automatically suspended until satisfactory and independent verification.

It took 100 years, and the victimization of a Civil War for the Eri lineage suddenly remember that they are a lost tribe of Israel?

ChinenyeN:
As the Americans say, chop chop hammerFC. Dump it all here so that we may know which communities and which oral traditions all of us sons and daughters of the soil have so woefully missed, with our collective knowledge of the oral traditions of the various communities in the Lower Niger.

ChinenyeN:
Wait, wait... hammerFC, you expect yourself to be taken seriously with what you just wrote? Well, at least we are finally getting somewhere though. Instead of completely ignoring oral tradition, you want to take it an extra step and claim that "we Igbo" have oral tradition affirming a migration from Egypt. Finally. Now, point us in the direction of those oral traditions, so that we all can be enlightened.

This is your first concrete step. Instead of walking around the subject with "Coincidence? I think not.", you actually want to mention something empirical and concrete. Ngwanu, share with us the oral traditions which affirm a migration from Egypt and recognize the lost tribe of Israel. You must have seen it written out or detailed out somewhere, or even shared with you verbally. A journal during the colonial administration maybe? An intelligence report during the first years of anchoring, perhaps? A pamphlet, possibly written between the 1910s and 1950s? An uncle or aunt or elder of any number of villages, perhaps. You had to have gotten something tangible for you to make such a bold claim. Please, share with us what that was.

You see, not just myself, but many of us here on NL have actually taken great interest in the oral traditions of many communities in the ethno-linguistic region, both Igbo-speaking and non-Igbo-speaking alike. Many of us are sons and daughters of the soil, well-versed in the oral traditions of our specific communities and also knowledgeable of the traditions of our neighbors to varying degrees. I have to say, 'til this date, with the wealth of sons and daughters of the soil that exist in the region, no one has yet been able to manifest definitive, empirical oral traditions from their community that affirm any Israel connections.

You would think, that considering how long this Jewish/Hebrew shinama has been around, and considering how much Igbo people are in love with the idea of being loved by Israel, that at least one Israel-sympathizing son or daughter of the soil would have manifested oral tradition from his or her local community that affirms something; anything. Yet, all you Israel-loving fools are still here saying "Coincidence? I think not". The only oral tradition you carry is... *silence* ... yes, 'til this date, you all have yet to actually tell us anything concrete.

But, rejoice, Oha Igbo Gburu Gburu! Today marks a momentous day in Igbo history. One of our Israel-loving members will finally share something concrete with us.

Iyaa, hammerFC, zni we. We are waiting. Share with us these corroborating oral traditions. Trust me, many of us here would very much like to know, maybe even more than most Igbo on this forum.

Now mind you, you went out of your way to make a very audacious claim. You claim to have actual oral tradition; something that we all can hear, read, research, verify. You've graduated from speculator to claimant. Do you know what this means?

It means that failure on your part to produce these empirically, verifiable details graduates you from intellectual laziness to intellectual fraudulence. A liar, in plain and simple terms. So, I will help you out, by giving you the opportunity to take back anything you stated, without any recourse.

I give my word to not ridicule you, persecute you or otherwise dismiss you entirely.

If you know you are lying and recant now, we can move on amicably. If you choose to not recant, then I have little choice but to ask for the information you have, so that I may research and verify myself, because I would very much like to. You are claiming you have the capacity to vindicate your fellow Israel-sympathizers. With zero judgement, I will accept the oral tradition you have to offer, the community/communities from whence the tradition can be traced, so that I may embark on my own journey of enlightenment.

ezeagu:
Sure, aziza has absolutely nothing to do with the word zaa, sweep, in Igbo. It rather fell from the bible.

[quote author=ChinenyeN post=72535157]You are quoting me and saying 'intellectual laziness'. You must not have been on NL during the time we were actively discussing etymology of Igbo terms, so allow me to help enlighten you.

'Intellectual laziness' is seeing two words, written in Latin script and look similar, not even minding the pronunciations, and without substantiation stating "coincidence? I think not".

'Intellectual laziness' is making the below statement:

Out of the myriad of cultural features and discrepancies that exist within and between the various Igbo groups and your Hebrews, you pick out a handful (of seemingly arbitrary similarities) and ask for an explanation. 'Intellectual laziness' is not realizing that this Jewish/Hebrew nonsense has been around long enough for the academia to actually get involved, and 'til today, the academia been unable to find substantiation for this Jewish/Hebrew nonsense. Visit credible, peer-reviewed journal sites like JStor and University of Colombia's Database.

'Intellectual laziness' is knowing that a complete and utter void of oral tradition exists with respect to this Jewish/Hebrew nonsense, yet deciding to not acknowledge actual oral traditions of the people involved, just to spout speculative nonsense.

'Intellectual laziness' is the fact that some of the oldest artifacts that were archeologically excavated in the region, and incidentally (falsely, but that is a discussion for another time) attributed to Nri, provide zero archeological support for... guess... Your Hebrew/Jewish nonsense.

In short, 'intellectual laziness' is claiming that a link exists (without evidence), then claiming that we need to investigate (because we need to be sure), then claiming that 'those who know, know' (again, without evidence), then asking for an explanation (further proving that you have no evidence).

'Intellectual laziness' is everything you just exhibited in this thread.

vanbonattel:
See this one o?

The problem is not what they take away, which tourist except the mad ones will come to Igboland as presently constituted where our international airport has been steadily killed? With these deathtrap federal roads and lack of good policing and security?

Nigeria is a disease and we have to align with powers and get out before we talk of tourists.

Obi1kenobi:
Then you'd best educate your dad on his ignorance. It is people like him that have led youths astray feeding them poison. Tourists will come to a place like Kenya and go home with Maasai regalia and trinkets, or go to South Africa and buy those beautiful Ndebele attire and adornments. Meanwhile Igbo people, including efulefu royal fathers go around looking like clowns like these people: