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sholay2011:
I meant what the OP wrote there is FALSE. The Holy Spirit is a person- the Third Person of the Trinity. It is only a Person that can be grieved. Jesus Christ warned about not grieving the Holy Spirit.

And they are three distinct Persons in one: the Triune being. When Stephen was being stoned to death in Acts 7, he saw God the Son seated by the right hand of God the Father while the God the Spirit resided in him.

Do you know that your human spirit can be attacked with jealousy? Does that make it a person apart from you? The Spirit of God is not the spirit of man, He/It is endowed with power and enablement you can't think of. Being grieved of the Spirit doesn't make it a person. You will have to read the post with humility to see anything at all. Forget about all you have been taught, you have only been taught error that sets you up for fellowship with demons that call themselves persons in you.

Princewell2012:
Op. i have actualy learn new things today.

Yes i intensionaly left nairaland religion section for a while in other not to be misleads. alots of aguements here and there.
I have just decided to come here today, as i saw this thread.

Yea, so the Holy spirit can be compared to our internet, which we use to get connections to individual either tru voice or data,right?

I have been following ur aguement with that fellow.

pls i need u to enlighten me more on these.
1 how do one recieve the Holy spirit?
2 how do i work tru the power of the Holyspirit?
3 How do i hear the voice of God?

finally what do u understand by that word, Holyghost baptism? is it still applicable to us today?
less i forget, is there any thing wrong if with the Holyspirit or Holyghost fire, as do these days in our churches? Thank you.

Pls kindly educate me more about these things. I will realy appreciate it. God bless you.

May the Lord lead us.

When God gave you and I His Spirit, the Spirit became one with us. What part of us did he fit himself with? Our human spirit. Right now, you are one with God's Spirit, perfectly one. He that is joined unto the Lord is one Spirit. (1 Corinthians 6:27). The Spirit is like your organ, he is now one with your spirit. This is why God deals with men severely before He gives them other dimensions of His Spirit, because the Spirit becomes like your hand or eyes or leg, he becomes a part of your organs.

1. You receive the Holy Spirit into your human spirit when you acknowledge your sins before God and ask God to cleanse them with the blood of Jesus. Acknowledging the blood of Jesus for remission of sin is tantamount to the belief of Jesus's death, burial and resurrection. Take note of this entry into your human spirit, this is only the first step. Then again, the Holy Spirit begins to work within the human spirit so that the man may yield his life to Christ Jesus. The moment the man yields his will or surrenders his will to obey God's will through Jesus, he is immediately filled with the Holy Spirit. Don't forget, the first step is entry, the second step is filling. When the Holy Spirit fills the man, immediately a breaking work begins, because the Holy Spirit will never be locked up within man's spirit, He wants to break out so that He can use the man to save others, He wants to flow into others also through the man. Without the man beings filled the breaking cannot begin. Every challenge you have experienced since you gave your life to Christ has been divinely orchestrated and also to break you so that the Holy Spirit may flow out to touch other men for their salvation. The more we yield our life, the more we are taken deeper in breaking experience, God will not impose this experience on anyone, we all choose how far we desire to go. A breaking work which requires the man to yield his life, take up his cross and follow Christ begins. This is a wide topic, let's leave this breaking work.

2. The power of the Holy Spirit comes after the breaking work complete. Immediately the breaking is complete, God will give you His power which is another dimension of the Holy Spirit. The power of the Holy Spirit is tangible, that is, it can be felt physically, it is a supernatural feeling impressed upon the natural senses. When power comes you will know because you will feel it in your spirit and in your body. This is the empowerment for service toward God. Whenever there is a need, the power leaves a tangible feeling on you which you discover, then you move out in faith to release the power (Dunamis). I must clarify this that power or Dunamis can be categorized into "the flowing power" and "the spiritual gifts." The flowing power is that which you feel tangibly, they operate by gift of faith, gifts of healing, working of miracle. The spiritual gifts which abide in the spirit of man are word of knowledge, word of wisdom, discernment of spirits, prophecy, interpretation of tongues, these gifts operate within the human spirit. They become like your hands and legs which you pick up whenever there is a need. This is how spiritual gifts are exercised, they are like your eyes which you use to see and observe "when there is a need." I must also emphasize that spiritual gifts are not for your excitement or aggrandizement, they are not even for your personal use, but for the children of God. When you have a heart that wants to save others, spiritual gifts will come alive, when you position yourself in place of a servant the gift will mature greatly. It's about serving others.

3. There are many ways to hear God, but before you talk about hearing God you must first study the Bible deeply. Why? God cannot speak with you without the Word. When the word of God begins to fill your heart, you will hear God naturally, without stress, without seeking. God will not speak to those who don't have enough word in them because these set of believers will easily take the voice of the devil as God's. The devil is crafty, he always imitate God, always seeking to lead God's children astray. Let me tell you how I began to hear the Lord, I was passionate just as you are, then I began to study the word. I studied and studied, I never knew He was already speaking to me through the Word I was studying, He was teaching me I never knew. Then someday an issue came up, immediately He gave me words from that which I had medicated upon, He spoke clearly I couldn't miss it. When He begins to speak by the Word to you, his words will come in just one single word, like "go," "wait," "pass here." Very short. But don't be disappointed, as time goes on you will develop a familiarity with the way He has chosen to speak to you, the more you grow the more He speaks the more you seek His presence by prayer and bible meditation, the clearer His voice. You will only grow the more.
You must understand something, I mean the reason why I want you to learn God's voice through the Word, it's that you may learn to hear God your own way, not according to my pattern. For some people, He gives them impression in their hearts and they know what that means, some hear His voice in their spirit, some see visions in their heart, some receive an idea or a word which becomes a sentence then a fully developed topic. He speaks to us in a million ways, you will have to go inside, locked the door and remain in His presence until you used to His voice. If I tell you to expect His voice in such such way, God never work according to men's expectation, He does things as He pleases. In short, the way He speaks to you will be according to your personality. And whenever He speaks, your heart will testify "that Him." There will be a joyful reaction in your spirit to hear His voice and there will also be peace.

Holy Ghost baptism have I explained earlier. This is when Jesus picks up your spirit and drops it inside the Holy Spirit, He immerses your spirit into the Holy Ghost, just as in water. This liberates your spirit for service, for witnessing unto the Lord and you will find your speech and preaching flowing without force or stress, your spirit becomes liberated for warfare against the devil, you will receive gifts of the Spirit and this is the time that the devil will begin to target you. From that moment henceforth, you will receive attacks. After baptism, you will be refilled over and over again as you progress in your work for God and grow in influence. The purpose of the consequent refilling is to add more power, gifts unto you because of the responsibilities that continue to increase on you.

Ministries that call on Holy Ghost fire is done according to their leader. I told you about tangibility of the anointing, when it comes you will feel it in your body. Some people feel fire, others cold, some tingles, some electricity, some feel light, some feel extremely bold. It depends on the Lord's will. Those whose tangibility is fire often love to call on Holy Ghost fire and it will work for them because they understand the property that makes up the anointing upon them. You know what fire does to enemies, you know how electricity feels when it touches you, it's no different in warfare against spirits when you touch them with the anointing, when they feel the heat they flee, this is for those whose tangibility is as fire. Each man will discern the tangibility of the anointing upon him to understand how Spirit wants to flow out. I must warn that the devil also gives tangibility. The moment one receives power from on high, the devil immediately comes with a counterfeit to block off the power coming from the spirit, if the man acknowledges the senses given by the devil, the true power in his spirit will be shut off. This is why we must spend time in God's presence to discover these things. We must also know our purpose for which God as called us unto sonship. Not everyone will be a prophet or pastor or apostles, there are varieties of ministries but only five offices. Those who are called to office are always born for such position, they don't become, they are from birth although the gifts to exercise position may not emerge from childhood. Each man will discern his calling and follow suit. Each man will discern his assignment on earth. The moment you discern your assignment and are ready to fulfill it, God will give you the necessary power and authority to fulfill it. But we can never discern our purpose if we don't spend time with Him because He is the One to define who we truly are.

Greatzeus:
God forbid I stoop so low to argue about religion on nairaland. Argument doesn't convert people,the Spirit of God does.if you like argue till your tongue fall off,it won't change anything,but breeds contempt.
Don't be surprised that the people carrying religion on their head above will still commit formication without blinking an eye,steal at any opportunity and treat their fellow humans like trash.
I believe in God and his only begotten Son who died on the cross for my son. My religion is LOVE.

How do they get converted if we don't preach to them? You know, the Spirit uses our words to witness and convince them. Don't let's be weary of doing this, we actually don't know how many the Holy Spirit touches by our short messages. God can use these things to win souls.

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GRIMMJOE:
Your religion mocks you, it is like saying you and I that are born by normal humans are not special.

You seem not to understand. If you don't read the Bible we will continue to have more argument. Jesus was a God in heaven before He came to earth, became human that He could die to wipe away your sins and my sins, if He came as a God He can't die, He must become a human to save the human race. Wherever there is sin, blood must be shed to take away sin, since no human being is pure, this implies no man can die for the other. This is why God had to become man that we might be saved. Do you see how special we are? How much God loves us so much that He gave His Son to die for our sins?

GRIMMJOE:
There's nothing special about Jesus, God can easily created another son, Mary was not the only Virgin.

If God want us to take him seriously he should come and die on the cross himself.

Jesus was not created. He "came forth" from God. He is the Word of God. He existed since when God existed, don't be deceived. Do not let demons lie to you, you were created by Jesus, he formed you in your mother's womb. Right now, He's attentive to this chat, He wants your soul, surrender your life to Him because it has been given Him to save men.

Shelumiel:
Bros, so God shares His worship with something less than Him...? . Lol...so in essence, He is not God because according to the Bible, we have only one God. So my brother, you are greatly mistaken. And to address you previous question read John4:24: God is spirit, and His worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth." So if God is a Spirit, then where is the body for this Spirit. The answer is in Colossians 2:9: " For in Him(Jesus) dwells the fullness of the Godhead Bodily. So Jesus is the fullness of God the father, The Holy Spirit all merged in One divine being. Which is why Jesus plainly told His disciples in John 14:9 :"... He who has seen Me has seen the Father ".

This conversation will not continue because you have not been carefully reading what I have been typing to you and you seem not to regard the words of the Bible. Let me clarify those things that confuses you.

Jesus shares the Godhood of the Father means He is a God as much as the Father is God. That's equality. It is the Father that made it so, that's His will, no one can question Him. Jesus testified that the Father is greater than He is, which is true, because the Father is the Source of all things, even the Son "came forth" from the Father.

That verse is wrongly translated by the KJV bible. It should read "in Him dwelleth the Fullness of DIVINITY bodily." The Bible was translated from Greek and Hebrew. You must also read check your Hebrew to confirm these translations because most are erratically translated. Divinity means Jesus was fully divine through the Holy Spirit. The divinity in the human Jesus was through the Holy Spirit. It will take you years to understand these things if you don't open your heart to learn. There is nothing merged into one divine being. That's grossly erratic and meaningless.

Where is the body of God's Soul? His Spirit serves as His inner man and outer man. His Spirit is His covering. This proves you never read the post with carefully, you only want to argue.

Shelumiel:
Bro, God will never share His glory with another ; neither will He share worship with any other person (Isaiah 42:. But Jesus is clearly worshiped in scripture! “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing!” And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!” And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped (Rev. 5:12-14). Whoever you worship automatically becomes your God. Which is why you pray in Jesus name. Or why not pray in God's name and see what the demons will do to you...

God will not share his glory. Oh yes! No one can be like God. This is why Jesus is the perfect reflection of God's Godhood. Understand? Godhood is a dimension of God's Spirit that Jesus shares, that makes Jesus also God.

You are in gross error. Why can't you answer my question? Because you have no love for the truth. Will you answer my question now? Who was Jesus referring to when He said "my Father is greater than I?" If you are able to answer the question your eyes will open.

GRIMMJOE:
A God that was killed by his creation, is that one God.

He became completely human, he shared in all of our weaknesses, so he could die for our sins. Do you see that? He cleansed your sins by His blood/life, He washed you as clean as as if you had never sinned in your life, to save us from the forthcoming wrath of God upon the dwellers of the earth.

Ladylite:
Acts 13:2 ►
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit SAID, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."


Hebrews 3:7-9
Therefore, just as the Holy Spirit says, "TODAY IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS WHEN THEY PROVOKED ME, AS IN THE DAY OF TRIAL IN THE WILDERNESS,

Acts 16:6 ►

And they went through the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia.


John 16:7
"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

John 16:8
"And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment;


The Holy Spirit is a Person. Pls use scriptures to oppose it, don't come here and magnify your elated ignorance.

Elated ignorance. This is not emotionalism, it's not up to that.

Whose voice? The voice of the Holy Spirit? Whose voice? Whose speaking? By the way, the Holy Spirit is an organ, don't forget that. An organ by which God speaks. If you read my post well we wouldn't be having this conversation. God speaks by/through His Spirit. The Spirit is His organ of speaking, the Holy Spirit does not speak itself/himself.

Forbidden by who? The Holy Spirit? Which is the Spirit of who? The Spirit of God! It is God forbidding them by His Spirit. The Spirit cannot act on its own, it's impossible because it is an organ by which Another relates. When God give you a message by His Spirit, you will not say "God told me," what you will say is "I heard the Spirit," because a Soul does not speak without an organ, the Spirit or Body does not speak without the control of the Soul. Please understand the make up of man to discern God with all clarity, if not you will miss the dimensions of the Holy Spirit which should come upon your human spirit.

Who or What is the Helper? The Holy Spirit? Verily! The Spirit helps our infirmity! You must understand that the Spirit of God is not limited in abilities as the spirit of men. Look here, this is how the Helper helps.

1 John 2:27
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

"As IT as taught you." What does that say to you? That an IT is a person? No. The Spirit whenever it represents or manifests the personality of God it can be referred to as an HE (neutral), this is also true of the human spirit.

Conviction or Witnessing is a work of the Holy Spirit AND the human spirit. That does not make the Holy Spirit a person. A spirit is not a person, the person is the Soul. The Soul is the seat of personality, the Spirit is the organ of the Soul.

Shelumiel:
By merely reading 1Timothy 3:16, the mystery of the Jesus is complete. And if you take time to study thoroughly, you would see from the onset that Isaiah clearly portrayed Jesus being God in the flesh.

No one denies Jesus as not being God. Wherever you see God in the Bible it can also be translated as "a God." Jesus is "a" God who has a Father and a God. God is the God and Father of Jesus. Look here;

Hebrews 1:7-9 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."

Do you see? "therefore God, thy God has anointing thee," can you see the communication between the Father and the Son who are both God by the Holy Ghost? Jesus is a God just like the Father, He shares the Godhood of the Father because they share the same Spirit. Look again;

Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

This is Jesus speaking calling God, "my God, my God," because Jesus is the perfect reflection of God's Godhood. Jesus is a God, the Father is the Supreme God. This is the glory that Jesus the Word wears in heaven before He descended to earth. Look where He asked for that glory back from the Father;

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Do you understand now? Or will you continue to argue? I argued at first with when I received the revelation, it took time for it to sink in. Most of the things the church call doctrine are pure deception that sets people up to receive a contrary spirit which is not of God. I warn you, don't forget.

Shelumiel:
Two different? Please have you read Philippians 2:6-7? I doubt. Because if you had, you would be making such statements!

Who was Jesus referring to when He said "my Father is Greater than I." Was He referring to himself? Who alone is the Father and also the Son? Give me clarity.

Shelumiel:
1Timothy 3:16, Isaiah 9:6, Titus 2:13, and Colossians 2:9. These scripture attest to Jesus being God Almighty

Post the scriptures here. Don't type some verses and think you have an argument.

Shelumiel:
Brother it is not false doctrine o. And next time, when you bring your points, come with scripture to back up your claims. Especially that part when you said Jesus and God are two different personalities.

Jesus says, "my Father is greater than I." How come one is greater when they aren't two distinct persons? Study what I have written properly. If Jesus is not a different person from God the Father, then there is no Son of God, then John 1:1 is false because it records that "the Word (Jesus) was with God (the Father), and the Word was (a) God."

Shelumiel:
Brother it is not false doctrine o. And next time, when you bring your points, come with scripture to back up your claims. Especially that part when you said Jesus and God are two different personalities.

You should come up with scripture to disprove what has been said.

What You Must Know About The Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father and the Spirit of Jesus the Son of God. To understand what the Holy Spirit is we must first understand the makeup of man, who is in the image and likeness of God. This means whenever God looks at men He sees man as His mirror image, and likeness before the fall. What does it mean to be in God's image? It means to have a soul and a spirit just as God. God is a Soul and Spirit, He doesn't just have Spirit. Hebrews 10:38; "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, MY SOUL shall have no pleasure in him." When the Lord says "God is Spirit," He is saying God is immaterial, He is not fleshly or tangible as we humans. The difference between God and man is the fact that God has no end, but the ability of man has limit, God is beyond any being. The similarity between God and man is the Soul and the Spirit. God comprises of the Soul and the Spirit, man comprises of the Spirit, the Soul and the Body.

Jesus and God are two distinct persons, the seat of personality is the Soul. God has a soul, Jesus also has a soul, but the Spirit within them is One, called the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is not just within them but it is also their clothing and covering, this is called the glory of God, just as the clothing of man is the flesh. The Spirit is an organ of relation, through which we relate with the spiritual realm. There is the spirit of man and there is the Spirit of God, the spirit of man is His organ of interaction with the spiritual realm while God relates with the spiritual realm by His own Spirit. God's Spirit is limitless, man's spirit is limited. The spirit is just like the body, if we understand how the body operates we will discern also the spirit, because the natural realm is the shadow of the spiritual realm.

Is the Holy Spirit a person? No! The Holy Spirit is called Holy because it belongs to God, it is different from every other spirits, human spirits, demonic spirits. It is distinct, that is the very Spirit dwelling within the Soul of God and the Soul of Jesus. How do we get connected to God? Through the Holy Spirit coming into our human spirit, that's how connection is secured. This is what Jesus came to establish because that link to God was lost through Adam's fall. Everyone who believes in the blood of Jesus for the remission of their sins has the Holy Spirit and can relate with God and Jesus, because the Spirit that dwells in God and Jesus dwells in us also. What intimacy! What closeness to God!


Believers must be careful because many of them has been making the Holy Spirit a person. You don't speak with the Holy Spirit as much as you don't speak with your hand or leg, you speak with God in heaven through the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is only a medium in the spirit of man through which we fellowship with Jesus and the Father, not a person you can relate with as much you can't relate with your hands and feet.


The dangers of relating with a spirit that called itself a person counterfeiting the Spirit of God can be severe. Is there anyone in the Bible that related with the Holy Spirit on a personal level? With all sincerity you won't find one. The moment anyone acknowledges the Holy Spirit as a person a counterfeit spirit begins to imitate the workings of the Holy Spirit, the man will think He is relating with God whereas a deceiving spirit is at work. God is not within any man as a person (soul), only His Spirit is within us and a spirit is not a person but an organ. Our communion and communication is with Jesus and God, who are both in heaven. How do we reach them? Through the Holy Spirit. Let us lay aside false doctrines which are according to the ideas of men who lack God's revelation, men of religion. Let us look unto God our Saviour and Jesus Christ our Lord through the Holy Spirit.

The world you know as passed away, things will no longer look as they were. Believers must get prepared for what lies ahead.

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yinkaadesegha:
You need to read your bible very well sir, please read these two bible verses.
Exodus 29:7...Then you shall take the anointing oil and pour it on his head and anoint him.
Leviticus 8:12...Then he poured some of the anointing oil on Aaron's head and anointed him, to consecrate him.

You were anointed on your hand and your Palm signifies double grace. All you need to do is to claim and pray that God should make His purpose for u come to pass speedily. Eph 5.17..

Please read these bible verses.
1 John 2:27..As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.

1 John 2:20..But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know.

Isaiah 10:27...So it will be in that day, that his burden will be removed from your shoulders and his yoke from your neck, and the yoke will be broken because of fatness.

Psalm 45:7...You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of joy above Your fellows.

The anointing is for a purpose, please pray and figure it out. Thanks sir.

Thank you very much sir! This is clear.

EverythinDeals:
True. You definitely are well informed about this area from what you've typed here

You can remember him in prayer.

EverythinDeals:
I met a pastor thatbderailed and suffers all of these symptoms. It has completely stolen his soul in his quest for fame and power

O yes. The Lord saved me from this evil practice, as my soul sank so low I couldn't feel I had a spirit within me, it completely shuts out the spirit. There are men moving in this dimension of power thinking they are working for God, whereas they are operating with a different, satanic energy. Whosoever is deceived into this will only escape by a miracle, this is why we warn men.

EverythinDeals:
True to the last point. It takes away sleep sufferers suffer consistent hallucinations, loss of appetite and instant fear of the unknown and seeing all sort that keeps them perpetually in fear

This is true. That's only on the surface though, when possession has not become deep.

Mark Of The Beast


The 666 is the new age's khundalini/serpent spirit or the third eye, this is the mark of the beast. This is the spirit that bestow gifts unto man that man may be like God, according to the promise which the serpent made to Eve "ye shall be as gods." Every religion in the world centres around practices that gives way for opening of the third eye. This serpent spirit will be forced upon every man at the age's end and whosoever rejects it will be killed, this the New Age calls "spiritual cleansing" which their Lord Maitreya (antichrist) who comes with a negative energy (demonic powers) will accomplish by removing all "rebels," actually Christians, who refuses to "evolve," that is receive the demon.

To every believer seeking spiritual experiences, thirsting for spiritual gifts, desiring to open the third eye you don't know what you're doing, you're actually submitting your minds and bodies to external agencies, demonic spirits who gives you false visions and soulish experiences which they call "seeing in the spirit." There is no such thing as seeing in the spirit, It's all satanic lies. When the seeing gift is operating in your life by God's will, it operates by word of wisdom, word of knowledge, discernment of spirit and prophecy. When you begin to exercise your imagination thinking you're actually seeing spirits, you have fallen to deception, and your spiritual life is at a great risk.

Those who seek spiritual experiences will not go without getting hurt from satanic deception, let us learn to be content with that which God has given, with faithfulness He multiplies it. Believers must be careful because once you open this eye you're in for a big trouble, your spiritual life will sink low and you will fall into great spiritual darkness. It doesn't just stop there, these spirits also seize aspects of your body tying it to your soul, from there they control your food and sexual appetites, sleep pattern, natural vision, dreams, sense of smell, hearing, they seize organs of your body and manipulate you, they make you think "now your third eye is opening you must experience some changes in your body because of some energy."

This is pure deception, spirits are actually taking residence in various aspects of your body. Stay away from these practices! They are satanic! You will be ruined! Every spiritual experience that requires you do some practice is not of God, if your gifts are not blessing someone you don't know what anointing means, every spiritual practice outside of Christ is devilish, every spiritual experience that is patterned according to your desire is not of God because God gives us what is best for us not the things we lust for. Believers must be careful. Be careful.

Hello sir, good day! How do you do? Thanks for the interpretations so far. I have a dream to share with you and I hope to get an interpretation for it.

About two years ago I had a dream where I was kneeling at the alter front in a church alongside other young men and women as the man who stands on the stage anoints our forehead and palm. I have traced to the whole scripture and couldn't find a single person anointed in the forehead and palm, this has made me to cancel out the dream, and also if it was from God I wouldn't want to miss out on an important supply of the Spirit. Please by the Spirit explain to me what this means. Thanks.

paxonel:
what do you mean by protecting my image what's my business?

You remember David in the old testament praying aimlessly for his first child with Bathsheba to be healed?
That's how your prayer will end up, just come over and try

You think by the time you have ended up fooling yourself you can keep fooling people?

The the God will judge all of you, all these Nigerian pastors, that day is coming.

Your teacher has not taught you the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant. You don't need to castigate me without reason because it is dangerous for you to do so, I have not offended you in any way nor have I sinned against you. Did David operated under the new covenant? Let me correct you, there was no forgiveness of sin in the old covenant, the blood of goats can't take away sin. Don't you wonder why Christ and the apostles healed multitudes? Yet your pastors couldn't heal an ant? The only reason is ignorance. They don't know what Christ has done, and if the experienced try to enlighten them about things of the spirit which are facts they argue. That ignorance have they infused into your own mentality also. Hardly can you find a believer who really understands the Bible, this is the class of believers we are producing in our days, babes and infants, believers who don't know the difference between operations of Old and New covenants, the church continue to nurture babes, spiritual infants who play church without any relationship with Christ. They have never seen the Lord at any time, they don't know him, they lack revelation, all they play is church, children wearing spiritual diapers fed with milk of the word because strong meat would destroy their teeth, these children mock the word of God and true ministers of the gospel when their emotions has been hit by the truth, they defend their pastors without holding back because that's who they serve, churchgoers, these ones lack intimacy with God, they run around running down the things of God thinking they are fighting for him, zealous but lacking knowledge. Be careful.

paxonel:
of what use?

Rather, what is useful is the power Christ has given you to be useful to humanity.

Come and heal people at NCDC, stop the noise making. You will discover that you can't force God to do miracles he will not want to do

Acts 3:6
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

Peter did not force God to do miracle, he knew who he was in Christ, he knew his authority over nature, that everything must obey him. Lack of true revelation makes believers belittle God and what he has done through Christ, I mean, right now in the eyes of God "creation is cleansed of every filth, sin, sickness and darkness" because He sees through the blood of His dear Son, if not he'd have wiped the universe off. Only those who acknowledge the victory of Christ and appropriate it for themselves will see result, not those who seat in their corner begging God for what He already gave.

2 Peter 1:3
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue.

Through his divine power has given us how many things? All things! But, "but only through revelation/knowledge." This implies seeing spiritually is having naturally manifested. If you can't see the healing in the spirit realm, it will never come out, you will forever beg God to heal whereas He's also saying "I've already healed you."

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

By his stripes, wounds we are? NO! We WERE healed. Healing is a past tense. Go to the sick in your environment and heal them if you're convicted to do so, and stop playing the hypocrite, selfishly holding unto other men's blessings to protect your image.

Sheunma:
Do you have this Exousia stuff?

Yes, I received from the throne room. Do you have anyone who needs healing? God gives freely, Jesus paid for it, but the world is too blind to see the blood speaking. Their focus is on their challenges instead of the One conquering for them, everyone mocks the ability of God to destroy sickness, even those who claim he's their Father take Him lightly, they don't trust Him. Who made the cells in the human body? Can he cleanse those cells of diseases? Can He? Is He able? Only those who trust Him will see His power, others will fall flat for unbelief. This is a time of test of genuineness!

paxonel:
don't get me wrong!
God never asked his servants to stop working miracles, but miracles should come in only when the situation is beyond human control.

1 Corinthians 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains(carry out miracles), and have not charity, I AM NOTHING

Now, imagine a situation where someone who is infected with corona virus who needs vaccine or a viral drug for him to be cured and all you could deliver as charity to help the person is prayer or miracle?
In a world where people are carrying out science researches to develop vaccines and all you could offer is prayer ?
You people are presenting Christianity in a way that is ridiculous, because as far as I'm concern Christ teaches us to love one another and not to be puffed up with signs and wonders
and what is that same reason can you tell us?
what you should understand is, the only thing that remains constant without change in this life is time,
every other thing changes over time. Change is inevitable.
Miracles was trendy 2000 years ago at the time Jesus died and resurrected but today love/charity as come to stay, people don't care about your miracles, what they want is what you can offer to solve their immediate problems.
The world has become vast with knowledge and understanding and if you lacking in knowledge your miracles are of no use
you say what?
You just talking you don't know what you are saying.
Paul suffered a terminal sickness among them who was wise enough to cure him?
Was Paul revelation include science, medicine, technology, computer, aeroplanes and cars?
My dad will say a thing i respected him so much, I'm sending you to school today because i want you to grow up and become better than me who never had the opportunity to have further education.

If there diffences in knowledge that exist between a father and his son today how much more with someone who lives 2000 years ago in primitive world of little or no education?

In the physical sense, there is no way someone who lived 2000 years will be better than anyone living in this era, it's not possible.
Jesus even said the least person in God's kingdom is greater than John the Baptist including all the prophets of the old era.

So you see, mankind is growing in knowledge and understanding from one era to another.
and the same way knowledge can disappear that's how the gift of miracles can disappear too.

But along human history, the more humans are becoming knowledgeable the tendency that miracles will occur has reduced.
This is how God wanted it.

Note that Adam and Eve did not perform any miracle from the beginning neither was there any situation that causes God to help them in a miraculous way.
since you have known these things why then are you keen of miracles, why don't you seek knowledge?
Hello!

Being apostle, preacher, pastor, prophet isn't bad.
If you have the gift of miracle save it to situations that are beyond human control, when that kind of situation comes you will see God working wonders through you.

But a situation like covid-19 where vaccines are needed and you say you want to perform miracle, it shows how ignorant and insensitive to the plight of the people infected.

You think health issue is childs play?

The day you encounter the power of God tangibly, then we can have a discussion.

HenryDion:
Op, better stay at home and stop trying to form shit. If this virus gets hold of you, all pastors in Nigeria combined won't save you.

Many of these comments prove these men are so earthly minded, bound down here. A man who has traveled through the spiritual portals and gone intimate with the Lord will not utter these things. I fear for your souls. So much immaturity in the body, these fake pastors have clouded many people's sense making them think they know God, they have led them into religion, not God.

paxonel:
there is no point coming to a faceless forum like NL and spill rubbish talk.
Come to Lagos and ask where the National Center for Diseases Control(NCDC) is. There are about 28 cases of covid-19 infected persons lying on their sick bed, come and exercise your authority in Christ here.

And let this be known to you that God allowed miracles you read in bible era for reasons, miracles were shadow of things to come, wisdom is the real thing.

Miracles in bible era? Where in the bible did God promise to stop working miracle by His servants? The same reason why they needed miracle, you all need it today for that same reason. There's so much error and biblical misinterpretations everywhere. Miracles are a shadow of things to come? Who taught you people these jargons you're saying? Miracles shadow? Why did God allow miracles then? Was there no wisdom then? In fact they wrote the whole bible, had more revelation than anybody this day. Paul was buffeted because of excess revelation. If Paul was walking in such height of revelation, imagine everyone around him won't be dumb. The least among them would be equal to the most knowledgeable and wise in our time. -Yet they needed miracle. You people who are full of error and unbelief don't need miracle to believe? Ah! God never promised anywhere to stop performing miracles. There is a common verse everyone misinterprets to justify their gross confusion, this one

1 Corinthians 13:8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Has knowledge vanished? If knowledge has vanished then we are all fools knowing nothing. But do you know something? If you know something that means the gifts, power and offices of the spirit are very much alive today, since knowledge has not ceased. But if knowledge has ceased, that implies there are no more gifts.

What Paul is saying here is that in eternity there will be no need for prophecy since all things will be revealed, no need for tongues since our communication will be perfectly spiritual, no need for our incomplete knowledge for the full revelation of God we will have up there. These things fail, they end, they are not needed in heaven. That's what he is saying.

Ephesians 4:11-13 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

Are you saints perfect yet? Has the work of ministry of the saints ceased? Have we all come to the unity of faith with all the errors you people believe and call doctrine? What revelation of the Son of God do you have? Probably none. And you're saying you don't need miracle? You don't need the offices? They all ceased? This is a deception of the devil to shut you out and cut you off of a vital supply from these governmental roles. There are things that must flow from Christ who is the Head into the apostle, prophet, teacher, evangelist, pastor that must flow into your life. The kingdom of God is full of orders. God won't break His spiritual system for anyone's sake. Rebels in the body will not come under authority, hence receive attacks here and there.

OloshoMan:
Audio Dunamis God wey dey always masturbate with anointing oil. Fool stay home and stop putting others at risk

Greek: δύναμις
Transliteration: dunamis
Pronunciation: doo'-nam-is
Definition: From G1410; force (literally or figuratively); specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself): - ability abundance meaning might (-ily -y -y deed) (worker of) miracle (-s) power strength violence mighty (wonderful) work.
KJV Usage: power (77x), mighty work (11x), strength (7x), miracle (7x), might (4x), virtue (3x), mighty (2x), misc (9x).