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Correct me if I am wrong but I dont see where in his speech he mentioned Jona's name. Also I tink d pastor does that o, can't rmbr where I last saw it, but I knw he gives to d poor, widows etc. Stuff like cars, bics, sewing machines, cassava engines etc. |
Larai Boluwaji: What is racist in my comment?No dearie u are not a tribalist. But u knw to ppl it wld seem so cos personally wen I saw d pic d first thing that came to mind was WWE's UNDERTAKER (U knw d wrestler I suppose?),yeah dats wat came to mind cos of d hat and how d beard (or goaty)made him look. But not sure one knws how a local ibo trader looks like. Though I do understand u sha, its a mind thing. |
Seriously? I mean did Aliyu, Lamido, Kwakwaso et al really agreed to make d 5th point official. Did they Knw Amechi played a fast one on them wit that point. Cos the simple interpretation of point 5 to me is RESOURCE CONTROL. Amechi which 'jass' u use for them, cos I see Nigerians holding the 'northern boyz' by dis press release in d near future wen they begin to say dey did not mean resource control by point 5 |
Seriously? I mean did Aliyu, Lamido, Kwakwaso et al really agreed to make d 5th point official. Did they Knw Amechi played a fast one on them wit that point. Cos the simple interpretation of point 5 to me is RESOURCE CONTROL. Amechi which 'jass' u use for them, cos I see Nigerians holding the 'northern boyz' by dis press release in d near future wen they begin to say dey did not mean resource control by point 5. |
Wow! I wld hv loved to be the 1st to comment so I can warn u (my christian brothers) that this thread does not belong to us, so we should just read and pass by or at most shout 'HALLELUYAH, THANK U JESUS' and then walk by. When u see a thread that is designed by d seemingly wise men of this world, we shld understand that they have an agenda; they are not after their selves but after u the christian, to get u debating. But u shld understand that these ppl dont seek d LIGHT, they are here to scorn our Father. And rmbr we dnt wrestle against flesh and blood, d folks we deal with are principalities. This is not d kind of issue christians discuss, or rather this piece was not designed to edify us. We chose to b fools 4 Christ in dis life (relative to d wise folks of dis world), so dont stress urselves to explain d mystery of Eden etc to these ppl. Som tims demons hide behind computers,lol, its d mystery of d virtual world Well lol, jst in case u see such thread in the future, so we'ld knw wat to do |
FOR U TO FIX THE 'WORLD'.... Is Obama the Ruler of the world? If u say he is then u may be rit in concluding that GEJ's speech was literal and then also u have no reason to blame him cos he was indeed (according to u) talking with the leader of d world. But if Obama is not d leader of world (which I believe he is not) why then do u tink Joe was referring to him because of d use of 'you'. Na wa for all of una o. In a forum wher d world will be listening to u as a leader of a nation dat is obviously struggling, u shld admit u need help. Help to combat terrorism, help for the multi-billion dollar corportions all over d world to come to ur home and invest so dat there will be jobs 4 d unemployed, etc. How can I bring myself to d unreasonable point of not seeing d correct meaning of a simple statement because I dislike a man. The smartest tin I'wld do will b to ignore him cos though I dont lik him, yet common sense tells me d statement has no problem. So in ur thinking d guy literally meant 'Obama come and help me do my work o while I sit down 4 u to fix it', so dat's what u think he meant? Our problem in dis country is dat we dont like talking to ourselves first b4 talking to others. Abeg let me get back to important matters |
made2fit: He that is without sin should cast the first stone. The best he could have done was suspend them after the wedding for some weeks even that can be considered extreme in some quarters. The pastor is playing God of the Old covenant IMO. Tell your friend to find another church Jare or do a fine registry or trad. Wedding.Gosh! What manner of self-righteous pastor!LOL u are rit abt 'he who's widout sin casting d 1st stone'. But then if u discover how one of our most respectd church elders, apostle paul, instructed d church to act in certain cases, u might not even want to associate with d church at all. 4 instance, there are certain behaviours if discoverd in a xtian broda, we are askd not to associate with such a person and dat wen such comes to church, they shld relegate their selves to d very back pew so dt their presenc is not even noticed. Mayb if it wer to b u, u might say 'demn, to hell wid yo'all church folks, my life is mine, etc'. Bt a truely sanctified christian doesnt see it dat way. because we undastnd dt we are 'soldiers' of Christ who hav vowd to follow Him like sheeps 4ever, and dat because of our human fleshly weaknesses, we (not God now) hav to set standards 4 ourselves as a community to help us keep flesh in check, as in, it is beta 4 d body to suffer humilation but finally mak heaven. MIND U, a true xtian sees it dt he is being correctd in love, not hate or spite. And any xtian who sees anoda brodas disciple like 'yes, he shld b punishd, he is a dirty sinner, bla bla bla', is still a baby xtian and still has a lot of spiritual growing up to do |
fluid26: I disagree. The pastor is wrong on this one. Does it mean the girl would never get married? Or perhaps, he expects them to go 'delete' the embryo and return for approval? Or he is hoping for a natural occurrence to 'reset' the anomaly...a miscarriage ? Blighted ovum? Pre-emclampsia? What exactly did he advise as solution to something he identified as a problem.LOL at 'immaculate concecption', I dont think God is sending a 2nd Jesus Saviour of d world, so it def. wont b immaculate. However b4 we condemn pastors on such issues, we might want to have deeper insight into hw d church system was designed to operate(doesn't make us look wise to judge on issues we look frm a distance). From d little I hav discoverd frm most churches. Such actions are meant to 4ever stick out d sanctity of marriage and deter brethren frm indulging (u knw d flesh is very stubborn lol). However, to d best of my knowledge, d church still go out to 'bless d marriage' ie d pastor quietly blesses d couple, but not in d colourful and honourable platform of a wedding. So I think dat might b d case here. But u knw sometimes wen earring d view of d one who is offended, u might tink they must have been terribly maltreated, till u hear frm d other party. |
SwTonia: Talking abt death i lost ma sister yastadayIf it's any consolation dear, I share in ur grief. Dont mean to embarass u if u dont believe in God, but as someone who does, I see d death of a loved one as an opportunity given to us by d grace of God to reflect and understand that ours is a continuosly falling world that is heading for a crash, and that a new life and realm that doesn't make use of d coat of flesh has been prepare for those who love God and walk according to His purpose. Once again vry sorry 4 d loss. |
Uclloyd28: What will one have 2 do to make heaven please? Going by what I've been told, majority of people won't make heaven and if that's the case, why did Christ shed his blood for our sins then. I really need answers pleaseLolzzz. Bros no be Jesus fault oh, na d way he see d grip of sin on man make am come shed Him blood. But I am afraid that in our generation it's no longer d grip od sin on humanity I think it's now d other way round -d man of dis generation has boldly decieded to hug sin tight and ignore d consequuences. But to answer ur question, dnt let anybody tell u who will or who will not enter heaven. Jst walk with the Holy Spirit of God on a daily basics. Follow His instructions like a tourist in a zoo will lean on d guide of the zoo keeper to remain safe. If u believe in God and d Holy Spirit, then u already knw u are in a faith walk, so talk with Him daily in prayer (actually like u are talking wit ur closest friend and read d scriptures too cos some times He might want to communicate to u frm sometin already in d bible. Always put Him in d picture when u are confused. Be consistent with Him and u will enjoy d rshp. He is d only one that can convict u when u are derailing and u will knw wen He those. In d same vain He's d only one who can assure u that u are heaven bound. Take it from me God is real, not cos one pastor says so, cos I have experiences that are proofs. |
There is no time in the spirit realm (so like the bible will say, a 1000yrs in our world wld b lik jst a day in God's eyes). So I think my ppl who have died many yrs ago will think they jst blinked their eyes in a sleep wen God's judgement day comes, jst lik u sleep for abt 5 - 7hrs and wen u wake it looks like u jst close ur eyes and opend it. Dat's cos u loosed consiousness wen u sleep. So I dont think one can ever fully fathom spiritual things using human understanding. Even apostle Paul said "we know in part" and those things we know are the things that please God to reveal in us mostly thru scriptures but also thru revelations. |
![]() 25Calibre: Absolute rubbish!!! Backward thinking African mentality.Lol. U rit captain abt working hard to succeed in life, cos on d long run dat's what gets u to the top not accent. And about Germans etc, lol, well dnt blame me. I speak my native language so beautifully, but when I talk naturally in English you cant tell what part of Nigeria I'm from. Maybe u shld blame it on growing up with too much American movies around me. Peace friend |
myads890: Bro, you are soooooo lame. You sound gay. The only reason why you intimidate people is because you spend most of your time speaking to people who are more stupid than you are.No buddy. I am a child of God. A christian and I can't be gay. And the nature of my job brings me in contact wih personalities in society and they really admire my accent, in fact my accent has open doors for me( funny how little things like dis trip Nigerian works for one). Finally why insult me that I am lame, its just a debate friend. I would rather be your friend than opponent. So please no hard feeling okay. Thanks though. |
Nahhh. I am in showbiz and I 'form' American accent wella. Now there is nothing like Nigerian accent in English. Do u suppose I use Yoruba accent to speak english or I shld use Igbo accent to speak the whiteman's language Nahh folks. It belongs to the Britons and the Americans so the list we can do is try to speak it like them. Also, I feel good when I speak with an American accent, u may think of it as inferiority complex, but actually my naturally intimidating personality heightened when I am using my fake accent among folks. They naturally think I am better than them. It started like a joke, but it's now a part of me. My boss is Ibo, but when he speaks Yoruba with the actual Yoruba accent it's so beautiful on him. Finally, imagine a none native speaking your language with d accent of their mother tongue, rmbr u use to laugh at such ppl. And now u think we accent folks are funny. Nahhh peeps, if u think we are fake, then d joke is on yo'all. |
skyfall: This has to be a joke. I don't believe he has the capacity to pull that off. He'll most likely be consumed by it, due to his selfish reasons. I wish to be proved wrong though.Actually boss, I concur with you that Joe might likely be consumed by a SNC but I think if he is consumed by it and he respects and honour the wish of the Nigerian people, that is to implement it even though he is crushed in the process, he will be the next greatest leader of all times in Africa after Nelson Mandela,my great Madiba. |
PAGAN 9JA:Tnx 4 setting me straight chief, I mean ur being a pagan and not atheist. Perfectly undastood. And so u dnt get me wrong, I have my reservations abt TB joshua -only used him to assert dat their is a realm wher power comes frm and not our physical world. Sure d guy does stuff and I believe they are not fake. But jst dat I am not convinced if d source of his miracles are frm my FATHER, THE GOD OF ABRAHAM AND FATHER OF JESUS CHRIST. Cheers though! |
deeptesting: My friend I have been to a church wouldn't want to mention name,I was invited by a friend who knew me very well as an Atheist, I honored his invitation and did you know when all that stuff you mentioned didn't work on me the officiating pastor and another pastor from Ghana termed me a witch...Come and see prayers that almost brought the roof of the building down,that was my greatest fear before they will term the fall of the roof on our heads as "spiritual stuff" like you mentioned.. It is so funny how you guys fall for all these craps.Lolz bros na so o. Fake many 4 dis world. As a mata of fact, wherevr ther is original, their is fake, and besides, there are diff levels of grace to do such tins in christiandom sha, so d pst might not b a fake still. But it those happen -I mean miracles |
nwadaigbo: lets judge it this way; between an atheist who does not steal, oppress the poor, and a christian, who does all those things mentioned above, who will make heaven?Niether wil mak heaven. |
Mr Aboki: I pity you the most...Haba Aboki, no vex 4 me naw. Bros u see dat's why I tink Nigerian Atheists are pathetic cos undastndalby d white guys dont get to see lots of miracle (if any sef), but my pagan friends see it happen everyday. So wat more proof do dey want naw. A pastor says dis blind man was healed not by me o, but by d power of Jesus name, wat more proof do u want again |
endy231: Hi guys,. Yeah God'd mercies are past find out -unfathomable. That's why our 4fadas who servd images will go to heaven (if dey did rit by their conscience o), cos God knws dey did serv those images out of ignorance, but actually servd HIM true their conscience by obeyin it and doing rit. But d man of today MUST accept Jeus else his gud deeds are worth less than a filthy rag. Cos in d realm of spirits, no soul was able to come and save man but Jeus by his blood. So u see our being gud is not jst enof to mak us look rit b4 God, it taks d blood of Jesus to achiev dat |
woodcook: I am not an expert in religious matter but for those who claimed to be, please are you guys saying that someone who believe in God but does evil will go to heaven in place of an atheist that have a conscience and had no cause to wrong his fellow human?Okay Oga, dis is hw it works. If u believe in God, then it implies u believe in Jesus His son, and automatically u 'll become responsive to ur conscience (d HOLY SPIRITS still small voice in ur hrt) and unlike b4 wen u are rebelious to ur conscienses prompting, now u will begin to do rigteously. So dat answers ur question. U cant believe in God and still do evil. And even wen u do, u are prickd in d hrt and run back to God 4 mercy and grace. So u dnt pride in evil wen u do it, u see it as a weakness of ur flesh and run back to HIM, and ur whole life all dat will b in ur mind will b to please God. |
woodcook: I am not an expert in religious matter but for those who claimed to be, please are you guys saying that someone who believe in God but does evil will go to heaven in place of an atheist that have a conscience and had no cause to wrong his fellow human?Okay Oga, dis is hw it works. If u believe in God, then it implies u believe in Jesus His son, and automatically u 'll become responsive to ur conscience (d HOLY SPIRITS still small voice in ur hrt) and unlike b4 wen u are rebelious to ur conscienses prompting, now u will begin to do rigteously. So dat answers ur question. U cant believe in God and still do evil. And even wen u do, u are prickd in d hrt and run back to God 4 mercy and grace. So u dnt pride in evil wen u do it, u see it as a weakness of ur flesh and run back to HIM, and ur whole life all dat will b in ur mind will b to please God. |
Mr Aboki: [b]DO YOU KNOW WHY CHRISTIANS ARE AFRAID OF DYING? |
omotayokay: They believe in God, they believe in Jesus....so why would they go to hell?Yap broo, muslims 'll go to hell cos dey did not accept Jesus as Lord and saviour. Very simple |
Nigerian movie: did Abraham Moses Isaac Jacob Lazarus believe in Jesus? How come they're in heaven??. After Adam's sin and fall from grace, his generation starting from Cain began to digress from their rshp with GOD and b4 Abrahams generation their wer already hundreds of gods wh men served, such dat d new generation no more knew of d true God their fore father Adam served. So Abraham was d 1st man after d digression dat God revealled HIMSELf to because Abraham did not worship his fathers image gods but did riteously deeds by following his conscience. That is why God like 4ever honoured d man. But his exposition to Abraham was jst d beginning. He was yet to tell d world of His son Jesus who will b incarnated into mortal man to save man. D reason why God emphasises Jesus as d way to salvation is because He Jeus being God dishonoured Himself into being dirty flesh and in d process restore man's hope of eternal life. And here u are wanting to live 4ever, but dont want to acknowledge d Jesus Christ dat made dat possible. Mind u, till tomorow there are ppl on dis earth dat have never heard of God or Jesus His son, and if dey do gud deeds by their conscience they will make heaven. But 4 u and me we mst do gud deeds by conscience but also believe in d tale of God and Jesus else na hell straight bros |
PAGAN 9JA:Look atheist or pagan guy,mere magic, witchcraft powers and all d tins ppl frm d occult do, as well as xtian miracles and u guys still doubt that their is a spiritual world. Now if u believe dat their is a realm other than ours frm wher al thez spiritual stuff are being done, why then do u refuse to see dat God is d BOSS of dat realm. A little trial will convince u dat their is a realm other than dis physical world. Jst go to TB Joshua church and let him touch u weda u will still have mouth to talk ur sense or evn recognis urself. No offense, but Nigerian atheists ar d most pathetic, cos in their vry eyes dey see spiritual stuff and dey say na lie. Lols |
PAGAN 9JA:. listen guy, i laugh at atheists cos in their very eyes they see mere magic, witchcraft powers and all d tins ppl frm d occult do, as well as xtian miracles and u guys still doubt that their is a spiritual world. Now if u believe dat their is a realm other than ours frm wher al thez spiritual stuff are being done, why then do u refuse to see dat God is d BOSS of dat realm. A little trial will convince u dat their is a realm other than dis physical world. Jst go to TB Joshua church and let him touch u weda u will still have mouth to talk ur sense or evn recognis urself. No offense, but Nigerian atheists ar d most pathetic, cos in their vry eyes dey see spiritual stuff and dey say na lie. Lols |
italo: So you think all non-Christians are going to hell?YES! All none xtians who refuse to believe in God (of Abraham d Jew) and Jesus Christ counting from d days of d bible apostles are hell bound. But 4 d days of ignorance (of dis true God) God will judge dem by conscience. And also, even my great grand father who did not hear d gospel of Jesus will go to hell if and only if he did not follow his consciences prompting to do rit. Or dont u knw dt it is dis GOD we are talking abt dat is in ur conscience telling u to do rit all d time and warning u wen u do wrong |
No bros, not all our ancestors will burn in hell. But some will, ie, those who did not follow gud conscience to live rit. But thos who were led by conscience to live riteous will go to heaven(read Rom ch 2 vs 12 -16 for details). And gud thin u brought up d issue of 'ancestors'. D pope is wrong because his assertion is only true 4 our ancestors and all who did not ever add a knowledge of d true GOD (ie d one Abraham d Jew served). But in Acts 17 vs 30 wen d Athenians wer serving d unknown god, Apostl Paul told them 'bout GOD and revealed to dem dat God wil judge men by conscience in d days of 'ignorance of d true GOD', but now dat dey, u and I hav heard of HIM and His Son Jesus, u must believe in HIM and also follow conscience to do rit (cos He is d one in dat conscience prompting u to do rit) else u are Hell bound (no offence). |
Since when did 'igbotic' become a tribalistic term? He has the 'very strong' features of a local igbo trader and I made known my observation. You Nigerians are just full of tribalism complex...
