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michellhilton:Isis didn't "execute" them, the U.S "slaughtered" them, but blaming Isis so as to look innocent ( as many think they are). |
Azuorjiakor:I don't think this is their FIRST EVER HYPERSONIC WEAPON, they have many gliders already. I stand to be corrected though. |
Bants:Do u know what pisses me off?? Its when someone does not know, and he does not know that he does not know, and most annoying of all, he does not want to know. Brother, open urself up to learning, no one knows it all, we are all learning on a daily basis. What u think u know might not always be the reality. |
kolaish:bros, Nigeria don't parade DEMOCRACY the way u.s does, we still have a long way to go in that aspect, so don't even compare nigeria with a state that claims to be the mother of democracy. Insurgency or terrorism is an entirely different story from state backed slaughtering and I sincerely don't know where u get ur news from but to say that the u.s police HAVE KILLED ONLY 12 PEOPLE IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS IS TOTALLY ABSURD. In case u don't know, THEY KILL THOUSANDS YEARLY, i.e, the ones reported and not including those shrouded in secrecy, without the perpetrators being brought to justice. Or do u think #TheBlackLivesMatter movement was founded to protest the killing of 12 people in 5yrs?? Sorry bro, i'm disappointed!! And yes, THE U.S SPONSORS BOKO HARAM, shocking but true!! It is part of their many proxies around the world AIMED AT DE-STABILIZING ECONOMIES. I don't think b/haram manufactures guns or do u?? And have u ever wondered why the almighty american and its western ally militaries couldn't ground a group of untrained terrorists?? The truth is they are behind almost, if not all, of the known terrorist organizations around the world. THEY RECENTLY ARMED SYRIAN REBELS WITH ANTI-AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS, BUT DID U KNOW?? DID U CNN TELL U THAT?? Bro, u truelly don't know america, they claim to be ur friend but in reality isn't. They only USE third world countries for their gain whilst pretending to be HELPING. You can always look-up what i told u, google will be ever glad to help! Go read and be wise!! Peace be unto us. |
cuteralph101:you have to bro, forget what u watch on hollywood, most of them are sci-fi. Without the russians they won't be in space and i don't think the russians will help them put a nuke (which will likely target them) in space. |
edudguy:No bro, i am not supporting civillian killings by the russians. All am against is U.S rhetoric on the matter. Shouting civilian casualties as if they are spared after all their escapades. In the case of Crimea, russia didn't annex it. I will just brief u but try to research yourself for more details. After the U.S succeeded with regime change in the ukrain, many of its regions especially ethnic russian sectors started protesting against the new govt. Half of the country wanted to align with the west, half wanted russia. After their voices weren't heard they decided to secede e.g donetsk and luhansk regions. Crimea decided to RE-INTEGRATE INTO RUSSIA (they were russians b4 the then ussr president who is ukrainian himself, ceded the region to ukrain, u can look it up). A referendum was held in the region and 98% of crimeans voted to re-join the motherland. And russia who has a culture of protecting its own (for instance, last 2weeks they held a massive drill which involved evacuating 40 MILLION CIVILLIANS incase of a nuclear disaster) moved to protect its people's interest. And that is it. Remember to read more on this. |
Aston02:As u clearly noted, they knows the other ways to assert influence but won't do it because they gain from the chaos. Have u noticed that they sell weapons to both govt and rebels in a warring country, whn they know fully well that without supplying any of them they will ultimately run out of weapons and the conflict will subside. But they won't cos they are gaining and that's their ultimate interest. The affected countries will want to resolve it themselves but the world's police man the U.S will always want to HELP and if u decline then u're in for a treat. For instance, syria didn't accept their HELP ( they are in syria without syria's permission, they are violating international law yet no one is talking of it) and they resorted to helping the opposition so as to achieve their aim. |
Aston02:i don't care if they are No1 or not, am only concerned about the lives lost and the destabilizing effect it has on the affected countries. I think there are other ways to assert influence instead of proxy wars. |
kolaish:Nice. But do u know the same is happening in israel and why is the U.S not fighting for the democracy of palestinians?? And u think america is free of blood shed, do u not see the chaos they caused in libya, iraq, sudan, afghanistan et al, and also do u know how many blacks are being slaughtered in the u.s without good reasons. Brother dig deep and u will see the atrocities they commited. U.S is the most hated country in the middle east and i don't think you're supposed to hate some one fighting for your DEMOCRACY (sorry, their national interest). |
CSTR13:so even after reading that u still have not read b/w the lines?? Well i can just conclude u have reasoning disability. He (putin) acknowledges that america is the only super power and they respect them and will LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM. Did u read that part or not?? Brother, the truth is, RUSSIA HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A U.S ALLY, but the U.S is pushing them back. And that is why the are somewhat behind Donald Trump who sees reason with them. Do u know that the U.S blocked them when they TRIED TO JOIN NATO?? Do u know that they have offered to work and share target infos with the U.S in syria but the U.S declined?? Do u know they told the U.S to seperate rebels from terrorists in syria (since the U.S claimed they were bombing rebels) but U.S couldn't. The truth is that America do not want another country to rise and that's why they do every thing to demonize russia and china. Nigga, u.s is the problem of this world. |
MONITZ:some people are still blind even when the truth is staring them in the face and the worst part of it is that they fail to look beyond what the media feed them. Israel have been clamping down on palestine for some years now and even triggered 'HANNIBAL' at a time, yet the U.S turned blind eye to all those war crimes albeit condemning other countries for the same offense. DOUBLE STANDARDS!! |
Lol, i don't think there will be a WW any time soon. Those nations knows what they stand to lose. They can pull and drag and do whatever for supremacy sake, but will most likely not enter a direct confrontation. They are no idiots. |
kolaish:those leaders were not dictators, they became dictators because they don't succumb to U.S meddling, And brother, google how isis was founded. And u will know that isis is american proxy gone wild. |
Ugosample:ok man, but u might want to read up what an UNARMED SU-24 did to USS DONALD COOK in 2014 that made the warship's crews quit their job. And u will see how feeble the U.S military is. |
Aston02:That is the problem we africans have, we're so impatient. What will it cost u to read it and know the true motive behind what's happening around us.?? |
Source : https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/17/good-deaths-in-mosul-bad-deaths-in-aleppo/ lalasticlala mukina2 humbledbygrace , don't u think this is worth the debate?? |
continuation: Arming Al Qaeda
This reality – the fact that the U.S.
government is indirectly supplying
sophisticated weaponry to Al Qaeda – is
rarely mentioned in the mainstream U.S.
news media, though one might think it
would make for a newsworthy story. But
it would undercut the desired
propaganda narrative of “good guy”
rebels fighting “bad guy” government
backed by “ultra-bad guy” Russians.
What if Americans understood that their
tax money and U.S. weaponry were
going to aid the terrorist group
that perpetrated the 9/11 attacks? What
if they understood the larger historical
context that Washington helped midwife
the modern jihadist movement – and Al
Qaeda – through the U.S./Saudi support
for the Afghan mujahedeen in the
1980s?
And what if Americans understood that
Washington’s supposed regional “allies,”
including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and
Israel, have sided with Al Qaeda in Syria
because of their intense hatred of Shiite-
ruled Iran, an ally of Syria’s secular
government?
These Al Qaeda sympathies have been
known for several years but never get
reported in the mainstream U.S. press. In
September 2013, Israel’s Ambassador to
the United States Michael Oren, then a
close adviser to Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu, told the Jerusalem
Post that Israel favored Syria’s Sunni
extremists over President Bashar al-
Assad.
“The greatest danger to Israel is by the
strategic arc that extends from Tehran,
to Damascus to Beirut. And we saw the
Assad regime as the keystone in that
arc,” Oren told the Jerusalem Post in an
interview. “We always wanted Bashar
Assad to go, we always preferred the
bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to
the bad guys who were backed by Iran.”
He said this was the case even if the
“bad guys” were affiliated with Al Qaeda.
And, in June 2014, speaking as a former
ambassador at an Aspen Institute
conference, Oren expanded on his
position, saying Israel would even prefer
a victory by the brutal Islamic State over
continuation of the Iranian-backed
Assad in Syria. “From Israel’s perspective,
if there’s got to be an evil that’s got to
prevail, let the Sunni evil prevail,” Oren
said.
But such cynical – and dangerous –
realpolitik is kept from the American
people. Instead, the Syrian conflict is
presented as all about the children.
There is also little said about how Al
Qaeda’s Nusra Front and its allied
jihadists keep the civilian population in
east Aleppo essentially as “human
shields.” When “humanitarian corridors”
have been opened to allow civilians to
escape, they had been fired on by the
jihadists determined to keep as many
people under their control as possible. |
Exclusive: As the U.S.-backed offensive in
Mosul, Iraq, begins, the mainstream U.S.
media readies the American people to
blame the terrorists for civilian casualties
but the opposite rules apply to Syria’s
Aleppo, reports Robert Parry.
By Robert Parry
Note how differently The New York
Times prepares the American public for
civilian casualties from the new U.S.-
backed Iraqi government assault on the
city of Mosul to free it from the Islamic
State, compared to the unrelenting
condemnation of the Russian-backed
Syrian government assault on
neighborhoods of east Aleppo held by Al
Qaeda.
In the case of Mosul, the million-plus
residents are not portrayed as likely
victims of American airstrikes and Iraqi
government ground assaults, though
surely many will die during the offensive.
Instead, the civilians are said to be
eagerly awaiting liberation from the
Islamic State terrorists and their head-
chopping brutality.
“Mosul’s residents are hoarding food
and furtively scrawling resistance
slogans on walls,” writes Times’ veteran
war correspondent Rod Nordland about
this week’s launch of the U.S.-backed
government offensive. “Those forces will
fight to enter a city where for weeks the
harsh authoritarian rule of the Islamic
State … has sought to crack down on a
population eager to either escape or
rebel, according to interviews with
roughly three dozen people from Mosul.
…
“Just getting out of Mosul had become
difficult and dangerous: Those who
were caught faced million-dinar fines,
unless they were former members of the
Iraqi Army or police, in which case the
punishment was beheading. … Graffiti
and other displays of dissidence against
the Islamic State were more common in
recent weeks, as were executions when
the vandals were caught.”
The Times article continues: “Mosul
residents chafed under social codes
banning smoking and calling for
splashing acid on body tattoos, summary
executions of perceived opponents,
whippings of those who missed prayers
or trimmed their beards, and destroying
‘un-Islamic’ historical monuments.”
So, the message is clear: if the inevitable
happens and the U.S.-backed offensive
kills a number of Mosul’s civilians,
including children, The New York Times’
readers have been hardened to accept
this “collateral damage” as necessary to
free the city from blood-thirsty
extremists. The fight to crush these
crazies is worth it, even if there are
significant numbers of civilians killed in
the “cross-fire.”
And we’ve seen similar mainstream
media treatment of other U.S.-organized
assaults on urban areas, such as the
devastation of the Iraqi city, Fallujah, in
2004 when U.S. Marines routed Iraqi
insurgents from the city while leveling or
severely damaging most of the city’s
buildings and killing hundreds of
civilians. But those victims were
portrayed in the Western press as
“human shields,” shifting the blame for
their deaths onto the Iraqi insurgents.
Despite the fact that U.S. forces invaded
Iraq in defiance of international law –
and thus all the thousands of civilian
deaths across Iraq from the “shock and
awe” U.S. firepower should be
considered war crimes – there was
virtually no such analysis allowed into
the pages of The New York Times or the
other mainstream U.S. media. Such talk
was forced to the political fringes, as it
continues to be today. War-crimes
tribunals are only for the other guys.
Lust to Kill Children
By contrast, the Times routinely portrays
the battle for east Aleppo as simply a
case of barbaric Russian and Syrian
leaders bombing innocent
neighborhoods with no regard for the
human cost, operating out of an
apparent lust to kill children.
Rather than focusing on Al Qaeda’s
harsh rule of east Aleppo, the Times told
its readers in late September how to
perceive the Russian-Syrian offensive to
drive out Al Qaeda and its allies. A Sept.
25 article by Anne Barnard and Somini
Sengupta, entitled “Syria and Russia
Appear Ready to Scorch Aleppo,” began:
“Make life intolerable and death likely.
Open an escape route, or offer a deal to
those who leave or surrender. Let people
trickle out. Kill whoever stays. Repeat
until a deserted cityscape is yours. It is a
strategy that both the Syrian government
and its Russian allies have long
embraced to subdue Syrian rebels,
largely by crushing the civilian
populations that support them.
“But in the past few days, as hopes for a
revived cease-fire have disintegrated at
the United Nations, the Syrians and
Russians seem to be mobilizing to apply
this kill-all-who-resist strategy to the
most ambitious target yet: the rebel-held
sections of the divided metropolis of
Aleppo.”
Again, note how the “rebels” are
portrayed as local heroes, rather than a
collection of jihadists from both inside
and outside Syria fighting under the
operational command of Al Qaeda’s
Nusra Front, which recently underwent a
name change to the Syria Conquest
Front. But the name change and the
pretense about “moderate” rebels are
just more deceptions.
As journalist/historian Gareth Porter has
written: “Information from a wide range
of sources, including some of those the
United States has been explicitly
supporting, makes it clear that every
armed anti-Assad organization unit in
those provinces [of Idlib and Aleppo] is
engaged in a military structure
controlled by Nusra militants. All of these
rebel groups fight alongside the Nusra
Front and coordinate their military
activities with it. …
“At least since 2014 the Obama
administration has armed a number of
Syrian rebel groups even though it knew
the groups were coordinating closely
with the Nusra Front, which was
simultaneously getting arms from Turkey
and Qatar. The strategy called for
supplying TOW anti-tank missiles to the
‘Syrian Revolutionaries Front’ (SRF) as the
core of a client Syrian army that would
be independent of the Nusra Front.
“However, when a combined force of
Nusra and non-jihadist brigades
including the SRF captured the Syrian
army base at Wadi al-Deif in December
2014, the truth began to emerge. The
SRF and other groups to which the
United States had supplied TOW missiles
had fought under Nusra’s command to
capture the base.” |
edudguy:Brother just listen to urself. You must already know that U.S bombed iraq, libya, afghanistan et al, tell me how many times u heard of civillian casualties from their media.. The most u can hear from them is ISIS ARE USING CIVILLIANS AS HUMAN SHIELD. And btw, saudi, a U.S ally BOMBED A FUNERAL an yemen some weeks ago. Did u hear that from the MSM, i bet u didn't. Its so pathetic u don't make use of ur senses to know that the west are murderers. Before u reply me, try and read the CHILCOT REPORT. And u will know that THE WEST INVADE COUNTRIES WITHOUT CONCRETE REASONS. just depending on what u're told by the media isn't good this days, be wise and rise from their mind control. |
cuteralph101:lol, they have nukes in space?? That show how badly you've been brain washed. |
Ugosample:Lol, so up until now u still have not realized that the U.S have an over-bloated military?? Bro forget what u watch on hollywood and face reality cos most of those movies are sci-fi. If U.S has the military capability of russia, russia wouldn't be on the map right now. Or at a minimum, russia would be a U.S colony. Show me a link or just show me a story where (in reality not movies) U.S military out-witted the russian military. And i will show u dozens where russians did the same. And FYI, russia has far more classified weapons than the U.S. Look it up. 600bn budget?? That means u don't know the MIC, they are are only bent on ripping the tax-paying Mericans ( a single f-22 is sold close to $300m ). Plus some of those goes to maintaining their soldiers in their hundreds of bases around the globe. And btw, the question isn't who spends the more money, the question is who gets the better deal. If someone decides to buy a wrist watch of N20m, and i bought mine for just N300. Who lost. |
Until now i never knew there was an unrest in Mali, and i bet majority of us didin't know as well. Why?? Because the media didn't report it. So what it means is that the MSM feeds us what they want and not actually what is happening in the globe. Big thanks to the internet!! At least, we shall know the truth. |
As Russia and the United States approach arguably the most dangerous crossroads in history — and as Western media continues to crucify Russia for its actions within Syria — a closer look at the rationale Putin used for intervening in the Syrian war paints a sane explanation of how we ended up at this juncture of a global conflict. Unsurprisingly, the explanation comes from the Russian president himself and was actually offered over 3 years ago. As expected, the Western corporate media and the Obama administration chose to ignore Vladimir Putin’s explanation for Russia’s stance on Syria and continued a number of policies that have completely exacerbated the conflict. In a live interview with RT in June 2013, Putin was asked for an explanation regarding Russia’s support for Bashar al- Assad in Syria, even though this support has made some people very angry at Russia. Putin’s response was that Russia does not support the Assad government or Assad himself, but before defining Russia’s official position, he explained what Russia does not want to do within Syria or across the Middle East: However, according to Putin, what worries Russia can be identified by having a look “at what is going on in the Middle East in general.” “Egypt is not calm. Iraq is not calm – and it is not assured in its continued existence as one state. Yemen is not calm; Tunisia is not calm. Libya is witnessing inter-ethnic, inter-tribal conflict. So the entire region has been engulfed, at a minimum, into a state of conflict and undecidedness. And now Syria, down the same path.” In Putin’s eyes, these events are no accident. As he puts it, these events happened for a reason: “Some people, from the outside, think that if they can ‘comb’ the region to how they see fit – some of them call this ‘democracy’ – then the region will come into calmness and order. That’s not how it is. Without taking into account the history, the traditions, religious particularities, you must not do anything in the Middle East, especially as an outsider.”Russia found this out the hard way when its military intervened in Afghanistan in the 1980s, a war many historians believe to be one of the main reasons for the fall of the Soviet empire. According to Robert Gates, director of the CIA under Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and Secretary of Defense under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the U.S. began arming and funding jihadists in Pakistan and Afghanistan six months prior to the Soviet invasion with the express goal of luring the Soviets into a quagmire. Similarly, and not by accident, the tactic used to draw Russia into Afghanistan is the same tactic being used today in Syria. In fact, Obama warned Putin that Russia’s adventures into Syria would result in the same quagmire the Soviets met in Afghanistan. Unsurprisingly, supporting radical militant groups to overthrow regimes in the Middle East has been a key hallmark of Obama’s foreign policy. As Putin notes:“So they interfered in the internal affairs of Libya. Whether the [Gaddafi] regime was good or bad – but Libya used to have the highest standard of living in the Middle East. And what’s happening there now? There’s a war for resources; an endless inter-tribal war. How is this all going to end – nobody knows.”What happened to Libya resonated strongly with Russia due to the fact that in that situation, the West convinced Russia and China not to use their veto power at the U.N. Security Council level — they were told regime change was not part of NATO’s agenda in Libya. As it turned out, however, this was one of the first things that happened as soon as authorization was granted for NATO to bomb Libyan territory. Putin immediately questioned why NATO was attacking Muammar Gaddafi directly despite their promises they would not do so. Putin has therefore drawn the following conclusion:“What worries us is that if the same is done in Syria, then it will be in the same state as Libya. Is it not enough that we already have a small lawless territory between Afghanistan and Pakistan? Nobody governs the area, it’s just groups of rebels. This is very close to our borders, do we want another?” The role of al-Nusra in the Syrian conflict continues to be the main issue today, as Russia has repeatedly asked for the United States to differentiate between terrorist groups and moderate groups on the ground in Syria. As Putin said: “You know what [the Americans] can’t answer us? The key armed opposition group…al-Nusra…Yes, this organization is one of the key ones in the armed opposition [against Assad]. The U.S. State Department has confirmed it is a terrorist organization linked to al-Qaeda. Al- Nusra does not hide that fact. And – what are [the Americans suggesting]? For al-Nusra to be in the future parliament?” “Or, here’s another example. They support certain organizations that are fighting against Assad in Syria, yet those same countries [who support them in Syria] fight against these organizations in Mali.”Putin’s reference to fighters in Mali is a direct attack on France’s role in the war on terror. France has been actively bombing Mali since 2013, though this is rarely covered by the mainstream media. As Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has noted, the fighters France supported in Libya to overthrow Gaddafi were the same fighters they have supposedly been fighting in Mali“Often, not only are they the same organizations – they are the same individuals,” Putin added. “They simply leave Syria and go to fight in Mali – where western states do not support them. Then the same people go back to Syria and there they are supported.” “Where is the logic? How will it all end? These are not just empty words.” s |
Amerikansky and double standards are like bread and butter. Their DEMOCRACY can now be seen as it really is cos b4 now everything goes smoothly for the DNC, and their corruption is covered up. But now everyone can now see how biased and corrupt the U.S (DNC) electoral process is, no small thanks to WIKILEAKS. |
thorpido:no bro, nukes are for defense, i.e deterance. If u have a nuke u will most likely not be invaded by another country because the invading country knows what's at stake. If libya, iraq, afghanistan et al, had nuclear weapons, they would not be invaded. Take iran and n/korea for instance, even as stubborn as they are the U.S have not done anything rash cos they very well know the consequence of such. So bro, rethink and read beyond what western media feed u about countries trying to have nuclear weapons (the countries want their safety). |
thorpido: |
The battle has been raging for some days now yet i've not heard of civilian casualties from the media, or does that mean no one lives in mosul?? |
Ahmeduana:bro, can u tell me how they're a bully?? |
thorpido:lol, bro, why do u lock ur house?? |
prettyboi1989: |
Call07034780891:Compare the amount russia makes from weapons export with that of the U.S and u will know whom likes war. I'll like to see u answer this questions. Is it russia that sold weapons to libya, iraq, afghanistan, sudan, yemen, syrain rebels and al-qaeda?? Which country has the highest military budget?? Which country/countries sponsors ISIS?? Who's weapons do ISIS use and how did they get it?? |
. Ignorant Nigerians.