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onatisi:
I think this thread is worth the frontpage . The heading should be advice or warning for intending first time travellers to usa .

Well, valid point.

But as i intend to advice, i also need advice too. You get?

onatisi:
exactly ,I don't think it is any big deal since he didn't commit any crime . But ol boy 5yrs na long time ooooo.

The US is not the only country to visit now! Lol

My major concern is the penalty or penalties for a visa cancelled 'with prejudice' and not without.

onatisi:
you can even change destination or point of entry. Ie,if u wanted to visit ny and the person u are going to see has gone to nevada ,u can go to nevada but u must be able to prove to the officials why u are there ,who u are there to meet and ur intent to leave. From the op submission he changed his point of entry (no wahala), but he wasn't meeting anyone ,he came as a tourist and yet didn't have enough cash,that sounds like someone who wants to run away. It shows he isn't prepared to go back but wants to stay and work to survive. Then he was asked how long he wishes to stay he said 4 weeks or “more”. No entry officer in any country will allow such a traveller to enter their country,which means he doesn't even have the plan of returning to nigeria .

I advice anybody to 'ROBOTICALLY' follow your plans to the teeth exactly the way you filed it on your ds-160 form. Dont change any plan. When you enter, then you can do as you wish but not on local flights.

Miami11:
I suspect he did not have a return ticket on hand.
Some flights will book you with no return ticket

Not on a tourist visa! Except you are migrating or on a student visa.

Is your mum visiting for the first time? I can give you some solid advise that will keep her safe from any wahala.

That is if you need it..

Thank you for your response.

I changed plans because i had called up an old contact about me coming to the country which i did not mention at my interview which lasted not more than 3mins. That was one contradiction. Another one was that i told them i will be staying at a hotel but now i have contact that will be picking me up. Many other contracdictions but sincerely i did not think it a big deal since i had my visa.

Please can you advise me on how to resolve the issue when i am ready to visit the country again? Probably in 5years or after that?

Thank you

LagosNIV:
Why did your plans change? And how soon after the interview did they change?

These are all things you should consider - when someone goes to a visa interview and is granted a visa for a purpose, that doesn't mean you show up somewhere else with a different purpose. That was not the intent in issuing your visa...

Aside from the fact that it was the wrong time and place to make a joke about staying for as long as you can, there are a LOT of questions surrounding when anyone shows up at POE with a different intent than when they applied for a visa.

Ogbeche77:
The red flag here was you not having a return ticket.. All other excuses they gave were watery... Like travelling heavy or changed POE..
Common, who does that? You travelling with a tourist visa without a return ticket?

I had a return ticket that did not tally with when i intended to leave. No airline, i repeat NO AIRLINE will board you without a return ticket on a tourist visa! Are you 'Norma Freeman'.. Lool

I should have suspected something was wrong when i got to germany, i was called out but cleared to board.

onatisi:
they were very very correct and right to have rejected u. U changed plans , u didn't even know how long u were going to stay ,lastly u didn't have cash on you although that is excusable if there was someone in that city waiting for u and who can confirm u will be staying with him . To them ,you just came to see if you can stay . Don't worry though ,if u reapply they will give u another visa . Even the issue of changing plans or entry point is even pardonable and excusable . The main point that discredited u was that u were not sure how long u intended to stay in usa.

From the conversation thay ensued, not knowing how long i wanted to stay was not the main reason i was sent back. The head immigration officer was screaming that i had no money and i replied saying please let me show you and prove to you that i have but she said i should have held evidence like a statement of account or something to show.

Alot of things worked against me that came across as lies but i did not count them as important since i had no intentions of overstaying or running away. I just wanted to have a good time.

What got to me most was their aggression. They hardly listen to what you tell them, they only go with what they think.

I was also surprised at the amount of people that get turned back at P O E. Boy! No be small thing, blacks, whites, asians etc.

They will search you to the teeth they even read on the messages on my phone, emails and what have you. After i get the responses i am looking for, i will post a write up to advise first time travellers to the USA, those people no dey joke AT ALL!!!

Appreciate the responses received so far. But i am waiting to hear from those that have been in this similar situation.

The only penalty i have gathered so far for a visa cancelled 'ON PREJUDICE' is a five year ban from the US. I want to know what other penalties are attached to what they referred to as 'Misrepresentation'

Miami11:
Sorry for your experience
Looks like you were not forthcoming enough with your answers
Next time answer directly
no joking with those officers

Was this in Dallas or Houston

None of the above, and i wanted to go through JFK o! I too like play, i wanted to chop the life of my head! Smh. Lool

Yes o! They dont listen to you, what they think is what they think.

Do you or anyone know if it will affect my appication for Visas to other countries?

19naia:
Maybe you answered their questions with replies that contradicted your pre visa interview and questionaire.?

Maybe your accompanied baggage had a commercial load appearance of too many items to claim as just for your own personal use?

Was there contraband involved? Did they call your USA contacts before or during your arrival and find no one on the line to answer? Or maybe the person who answered could not corroborate your filed personal information?

Did you disrespect and curse at some people at home as you were leaving with the impression that you will never have to deal with them again? Because maybe they have "do you from village" something involving chicken blood and other items of fettish and entranced frenzy?

Sorry about the wasted money on airfare, i hope you did not drain life savings just to make the trip.

Maybe you answered their questions with replies that contradicted your pre visa interview and questionaire.? Yes, this happend
Maybe your accompanied baggage had a commercial load appearance of too many items to claim as just for your own personal use? Well, probably

Was there contraband involved? Did they call your USA contacts before or during your arrival and find no one on the line to answer? Or maybe the person who answered could not corroborate your filed personal information? Contrabands 'No', about my contacts i cannot answer that to be honest
Did you disrespect and curse at some people at home as you were leaving with the impression that you will never have to deal with them again? Because maybe they have "do you from village" something involving chicken blood and other items of fettish and entranced frenzy? No man can do me, it happened because God wanted it to happen but you can enlighten me
Sorry about the wasted money on airfare, i hope you did not drain life savings just to make the trip? Not at all, Lool

Miami11:
What airline did you use? What city was your arrival, what questions did they ask you

I didnt use a direct flight. Some questions and my responses are as below:

Officer: You were to enter the country from point A, why did are you entering from pont B?
Me: I changed plans
Officer: 'Quiet'

I did not carry alot of physical cash
Officer: You do not have enough money for the period of your trip?
Me: Cashwise, Yes but i have money kept for my trip. I can show you
Officer: We do not want to verify that, we prefer seeing cash it shows us that you are prepared for your trip
Me: How would you then have me prove availability of funds? As i am willing to do that
Officer: 'Quiet'

I planned staying for a month or more but since i was told the length of time i will stay will be confirmed at the point of entry
Officer: How long are you staying for?
Me: 4weeks but added a joke 'since i heard it depends on how long i am stamped for at the point of entry i might stay some more if i am given longer time' *I was smiling* just to reduce the tension
Officer: I dont think so! then goes Quiet while smiling as if to say 'see this one'

Many more questions and responses from me. Waited for them to decide. Long and short of it, the final decision came

Officer: we do not think you want to come to the US to just visit, we think you have other intentions so we are withdrawing your visa today. Do you want to willingly withdraw or figth the decison?
Me: Its fine, i will withdraw
Officer: I am giving you the opportunity to be able to apply again in your country but if you had failed to agree or comply you will be thrown in Jail
Me: 'In my mind' Jail ke? me i came to enjoy myself not sleep in jail biko... Thunder! Lool
Officer: Thank you

I opened my passport and what i see is 'Visa Cancelled with prejudice'.. I didnt think much of it till i got back home and read up on it. I was just weak.

onatisi:
they must have asked u some questions which u answered wrongly. Maybe if u give us a brief insight of what actually happened ppl may be able advice u better

It happened as you have said. I didn't think it was important to fly according to what i filed since i already had my visa and again, i had genuine intentions to come back so i didnt think it was a big deal

Lucasbalo:
Sorry to hear about that. Unfortunately, you must have made some mistakes for that to happen. Which city was that ?.

I certaintly did make some mistakes when i think back. It came across as 'i dey come not to go again'. I just want to hear from people that might have been through similar situation or can give expert advise, preferably from experience.

Lucasbalo:
There must be a reason why your B1/B2 visa is canceled. It's a very rare thing for the Embassy to cancel an issued visa but I have seen it before.

At the point of entry, the immigration officers said they were not just convinced i was going tonjust visit. You'll be surprised how many visas gey cancelled at the point of entry.

Miami11:
Was it cancelled at the point of entry or embassy

Point of Entry

I had my USA B1/B2 visa cancelled WITH PREJUDICE. Please i will appreciate comments and advice from people that have been in this situation and how they resolved it... Thanks

abujaniv:
Hello iContribute,

It sounds like you received a 7(A)(i)(I) refusal (and possibly something else - it should be written in your passport). Your expedited removal from the port-of-entry carries with it a five year ban from the US. If, however, the US Customs and Border Protection also found you to be 6(C)(i), which covers fraud and misrepresentation, you received a permanent ban.




Regards,
Abuja NIV Team

Thank you for your response. Yes i got 214 7(a) (i)(I) of the Ina code.

Right! So after 5years, i'll just need to go through the entire procedure again? I reckon i have to fully explain why i was denied entry previously, right?

Please what advise can you give me? Plus is the 5yeara ban the only penalty?

gentleiphy:
Irridemi....my sister
i called you my sister because you took the courage to do what we know most Nigerian women to be ..very industrious and so much attached to the welfare of their husbands and family. Weldone!

You have asked a very good question,and i have read and followed all the response giving by good people here...though some sound bitter,some

funny,some positive and some discouraging..they all have done well and so appreciate each and everyone's input as i believe they all have your interest at heart.

i observed two sets of people here....the "Experienced ones" and the"i heard it so ones"....in the"Experienced ones" that is where your answer lies because they comprise of the optimists and the pessimists...listen to both of them because both have spoken the truth.For the"I heard it so ones"...they have never been in the situation you find yourself now and therefore are learning from the responses of the"Experienced Ones"like you.

Your Case:Relocating to Canada on student ground..
Option1:Your husband studies while you work albeit with Pregnancy
Option2:You Study while husband works to support you while you grapple with stress of baby on the way.

Canada no doubt is a beautiful land filled with unending opportunities when you have the right legal status to reside and work.It used to be easier coming in as an international student,get work permit,graduate work for 2 years and get your PR..sadly the law has changed of recent...meaning if both of you make that move via the international student route....staying back in Nigeria sounds progressive more than being in Canada because when both of you come in and face reality on ground,you will panic,depression will set in,hopelessness will evolve,cracks will begin to appear in your marital relationship and the baby?confusion will be the result.Again if your husband chose to come alone to study while you stay back home to support him..it will take some good 4yrs for him to able to navigate his way around the immigration laws to get his PR and file for you then you are looking at 5yrs of him being in Canada without you.The more you look at the cons..the more you realise it may not worth it to sell off your property and quit your job to go into this "legend of the Seeker" adventure.

Best route to you my sister is to gather your document and start application for the permanent residence via the Express Entry...patiently work on achieving it and when you get it...i bet you the sky wont be your limit in the foreign land.No country in this world is easy to settle down fast even leaving your village to relocate to Lagos was never easy at the start.Believe me if you succeed with your PR,Canada has lots to offer you...hard work and determination is the answer.it is true that when you come your education and work experience from Nigeria doesn't count..very very true but as a PR..you will benefit immensely in a lot programs that will help integrate your easily into the system...there a lot of certification courses in your field that you can easily do within some months of arrival to get some job which comes with the coveted Canadian work experience preparing you to make that great move into you major job you so desired.For example,as an Auditor which of course is regulated and which may take some years for you to get licensed or qualify in their certification...you can certify in CAPA or CAPP..certified Accounts payable Associate or Professional which enables you to get a job as easy as ABC though lower in what you do in Nigeria but at least starts you off on the climb to your Canadian work experience.So many of such certifications exist to help you out in your settling down that is if you came in with your PR...

like others advised...money melts down so fast in Canada...your entire savings can disappear in just a while without any other source of income therefore supporting yourself to study with the money you came with for a family of 2(3 to be) without the PR status will be a tall order.You will survive in Canada if you arrive with your PR and you have your uncle to shelter you for a couple of months guiding you to settle down easily.For every newcomer in any Country it is not always easy and fast to settle..you must thread the muddy waters and the thorny valleys but after rain comes sunshine.but one thing i have to leave you with is this...

In Canada...they live life
In Nigeria....they exist

People make choice of either to live life or to merely exist in life.

My advise:Make the move to Canada via PR and you wont regret it.

God bless your decision.
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This advice is very sincere. @poster, i will like to advice you not to sell your property or properties, apply for the PR visa then go ahead and test the waters so that God-forbid if things dont go according to planned, you can have your property back in Nigeria plus your PR visa. But most importantly, seek God and everyother thing will be added on because you can do all things through Christ that strengthens you.

abujaniv:
Hello iContribute,

Without knowing the specific cause cited for your visa revocation, we cannot comment on the penalties or consequences.


Regards,
AbujaNIV

Dear VO,

Please can you mention what exactly are the things you need to know to answer my question?

The immigration officers mentioned a few things

1. That the point of entry (state) i indicated in my interview was different from the one i used
2. I was travelling too heavy like i was relocating

Basically they said to them i mispresented myself that i lied and they do not believe that i am going to the USA just to visit.
That i did not have enough funds on me and i didnt have a return ticket including several other things they pointed out including not having any physical proofs or documentation (i was willing to show them but they said i should have printed them out). Honestly i was innocently visiting and because i did not have any intentions of breaking any law i would say i was non-challant about all the things they mentioned.

I will just like to know the consequences and corrective measures to situations like this?

Thank you for your time

Dear VO,

Thank you for this platform.

I had a B1/B2 Visa and made my way to the US. At the US point of entry (not the one i stated i was entrying the US from) the immigration officers were not convinced that i was only visiting as they were some misunderstood/contracdicting statements. However, i wasn't given any opportunity to explain myself then my Visa was cancelled 'WITH PREJUDICE' and i was sent back to Nigeria. Please i have a few questions that i will appreciate answers too and i will also appreciate your advice on steps to correct this situation.

1. What are the automatic penalties for this? Does this mean not being able to ever visit the US?
2. Is there a stipulated period before re-applying without visa refusal?
3. Will this affect my visa applications to visit or migrate to other countries especially Australia and Canada?
4. Will this affect other members of my family?
5. What if my fiance or spouse is a US citizen, will this be an advantage to visit and possibly migrate to the US?
6. What are the steps i need to take to correct the situation?

Thank you in anticipation of your professional advice and response.

iContribute

Dear VO,

Thank you for this platform.

I had a B1/B2 Visa and made my way to the US. At the US point of entry (not the one i stated i was entrying the US from) the immigration officers were not convinced that i was only visiting as they were some misunderstood/contracdicting statements. However, i wasn't given any opportunity to explain myself then my Visa was cancelled 'WITH PREJUDICE' and i was sent back to Nigeria. Please i have a few questions that i will appreciate answers too and i will also appreciate your advice on steps to correct this situation.

1. What are the automatic penalties for this? Does this mean not being able to ever visit the US?
2. Is there a stipulated period before re-applying without visa refusal?
3. Will this affect my visa applications to visit or migrate to other countries especially Australia and Canada?
4. Will this affect other members of my family?
5. What if my fiance or spouse is a US citizen, will this be an advantage to visit and possibly migrate to the US?
6. What are the steps i need to take to correct the situation?

Thank you in anticipation of your professional advice and response.

iContribute