₦airaland Forum

onuman:
Tinubu knew it's was the turn of the SE to produce a president for Nigeria. Tinubu never considered presidential material, Nwajiuba and other presidential material easterners who formed APC with Tinubu as capable to preside over Nigeria. Tinubu said it's his turn to become president. Let's see how Tinubu shall become president. Nigeria can't be described as country led by one time drug lord.

naptu2:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

I see that you just want to have the last word, so I'll let you have it. You can post whatever you like, I won't read it or reply.

naptu2:
This is comical. You have accepted that the United States Government does not own the Episcopal Church, or are you now going back on what you said? Are you now saying that the Episcopal Church is owned by the United States Government.

naptu2:
Thank God you have admitted your error in 2 of the 3. Now to cure your error in the 3.

1) The doctrine of separation of church and state is an essential law in the United States. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution states that, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." This means that the government owns no religion or religious organisation. This has been further reinforced by many decisions of the United States Supreme Court. The Episcopal Church does not belong to the United States Government and this is as clear as day.


Now to re-emphasis the other issues.

2) There are churches in the United States that have pledged allegiance to churches in the global south like the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion). This is a fact.

3) No church is forced to ordain gay clergy or to conduct same sex marriages (in fact, the Respect For Marriage Act that was recently signed by President Biden emphasizes this fact).

C'est fini.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state#United_States

naptu2:
I have no bias in this. Rather, I am simply pointing out the errors in your posts and you keep shifting the goal posts in order to run away from those errors. Therefore, I am going to ask you direct questions. Let's see if you can answer them.

1) You claimed that the Episcopal Church is owned by the US State. Is this true? (yes or no will suffice).

2) Are there churches in the US and Canada that have pledged allegiance to churches in the global south, for example the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion) and the Church of Rwanda? (A simple yes or no will suffice)

3) Are these churches forced to ordain gay clergy and conduct same sex marriages? (A simple yes or no will suffice).

I am not interested in any other arguments, I am simply pointing out the errors in your post and you will see these errors when you try to answer my questions (please don't run away from the questions).

naptu2:
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

The Episcopal Church of the United States is not owned by the US State or Government. It is a religious organisation, just like any other. They are also entitled to freedom of worship, just like any other religious organisation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Church_(United_States)

The US Government does not own any religious organisation (see separation of church and state).

For example, are you aware that these churches have the right to refuse to perform same sex marriage?

Anyway, I know that you are trying to flee from your earlier point. The point is that these churches have pledged their allegiance to the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion) and other similar churches from the global south and they are no longer in communion with the Episcopal Church due to differences over gay marriage and ordination of gay clergy. These churches do not conduct same sex marriage, neither do they ordain gay clergy. Therefore, the guy you insulted is right and you are wrong.

Have a good day.

Neddstark:
To avoid heart and depression issues, stop putting it in your mind that Obi will win. The social media world and the real world are 2 different places. There are even local governments where people dont even know he exists. Worse still guy is not ready to withdraw his millions of dollars from the cayman islands to promote himself for the elections.

Antyislam:
Even some local Yoruba Muslims too are selling their PVC due to hunger

naptu2:
He is absolutely and totally correct and you are completely wrong (in fact, you don't know what you are talking about).

There was a crisis in the Anglican Communion in the early 2000s when the Episcopal Church (that is, the Anglican Church in the US) wanted to ordain gay clergy. Several clerics in the developing world, most notably, Archbishop Peter Akinola, the Primate of the Church of Nigeria, Anglican Communion, were opposed to the ordination of gay clergy and they demanded that the Epsicopal Church should be expelled from the Anglican Communion. This almost broke the Anglican Communion apart.


Some Anglicans in the United States and Canada, who do not agree with the ordination of gay clergy, decided to transfer their loyalty and allegiance from the Episcopal Church in the US and the Anglican Church in Canada to dioceses in the developing world. Some declared their allegiance to the Church of Nigeria, some declared their allegiance to the Church of Rwanda, etc.

That's one of the issues behind the conflict in this church. One of the groups in this church (led by Bishop Unigbe) have declared their allegiance to the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion), while the other group (led by the visiting Bishop Ken Ross) has declared its allegiance to ACNA.

Next time, instead of insulting people, seek knowledge when you don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_Church_in_North_America

Tradman:
that ur rotten teeth like ur mentor that was excommunicated from his iragbeji where he stole goat. Is nut ur fault that ewedu has block ur brain and the only thing that is shameful is for to be shouting owomida. If I give u hot slap for that ur ogogoro mouth. This idiot that has no parent on this earth. How even given that phone

chinavs9ja:
Good...what I really like about him is that he is hardworking. Yes, him and his team failed but never give up on himself despite what people and media are saying regarding him. That is what we all need to learn from him not critics.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Their love for hate is inexplicable

Damn! I still have reasonable doubts that they were not created by God

Proudlyomonna:
He and that eternally grateful bastard product of doom and destruction called Igboslayer should come and wail and shout Igbo ahhh, Igbo yooo, Igbo eeehh na their destiny be dat oo,na their passion for life be dat .
Only a very mentally unstable animal will wish this APC disaster on this Country again after the level of suffering and hardship they brought into this Country.
APC MUST GO FOR THEY ARE THE GREATEST DISASTER TO HIT THIS COUNTRY.

Proudlyomonna:
see eternally cursed product of doom and destruction, don't you know that the tag Urchins is exclusively reserved for Agbado infested animals
Weak Vessel like you wey no voltage sef dey form Vawulence
Omo ale jatijati,Ozu nwuru anwu aburu onu

OgatheTop:
Worthless fool

Ezmans:
it is only a lazy person that is easy to please

Tradman:
Baba from ojota Park try not be a disgrace to humanity. It's well know to us all that ur level of reason is is minus1000

Corrinthians:
Obi looks like akpan. They should make sure they send him on stupid errands until his legs can carry him no more.

muykem:
Kogi really teaches team Obidient bitter lessons.

Ruggedniggaone:
Lol them no wan disgrace obi and his ancestors because no money for mobilisation

ItsTutsi:
He wants to be provided a playing ground now after the government of Ekiti and Ondo state approved stadium for him

Dshocker:
There is a reason they call it "National bureau of statistics"

You went to an unknown source for answers

Even the same Lagos that has the lowest, it was 98% contributed by other tribes, because the main indigenes are minus 1.

Guy, do yourself a favour and visit other parts of Nigeria and it appears that the Yorubas are the least travellers within the geography of Nigeria.

Dshocker:
Try dey read, e get why.

Go and check the national bureau of statistics.

Sorry, i ain't in Lagos, because Lagos dey reduce lifespan.

And lastly try dey travel, ogbomosho will do you no good.

Charming1:
The Budget contains 5 bucket pillars Soludo has promised Anambra State for which they should hold him accountable. Watch and see 5 key priorities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVNzeGG3h0

Gossipninja:
Wailing wailer