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Nice.

is this the best this id.i.ot poster can come out with? Rubbish.

Arrant nonsense.

^^^

Rubbish. Which African production? You joking, right?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_6_Series#E63.2FE64_6_Series_.282003.E2.80.932010.29


An all-new 6-Series (E63) was introduced in 2003, filling the hole in the lineup left since the end of the 8-Series' production, and based on the underpinnings of the E60 5 Series.
The new 6-Series was introduced with a 4.4 L 333 PS (245 kW) V8 engine for the 645Ci. In 2004, a more affordable inline six-cylinder engine was introduced in the 630i. This was soon followed by a convertible model (the E64), the first 6-Series with a removable top.[size=14pt] In 2006, the 645Ci was replaced by the 650i[/size], with a larger displacement (4.8 L) and 367 PS (270 kW). The range-topping M6 arrived in late 2005, using the same V10 engine as the M5, with 507 PS (373 kW). In 2007 the 635d (Twin Turbo 3.0L Diesel) was introduced with 286 PS (210 kW) and 430 ft·lbf (580 N·m) which comprehensively outguns the 630i with the added bonus of 41mpg, the 635d Convertible (released shortly afterwards) was described by Autocar as "the best 6-series of the lot". The U.S. and Canadian markets received only the V8 and V10-engined 6-Series.

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I suppose you are using Visual Studio? You have to build your project to create the .exe file.

have you compiled the programme into a .exe file?

You can only run a .exe file from the command prompt - and why do you want to run a dot net application from the command prompt and not in windows?

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The i.d.iot who calls herself or himself junkie with kobo kobo is the most stupid and annoying NL ever to walk the face of the earth.

9ijaMan:
Sometimes I wonder why it appears people think through their anus. How difficult is it to count 50K dollars? What has the counting of the money got to do with the fact that it was an act of bribery? If the SNG guys have not stated the actual amount, it's people like you who would make outrageous comments doubting the authenticity of the story. Now they have given the actual figures and even clearly given how the whole scandalous event took place, yet you still doubt. Orubebe (GEJ and the rest of their team) have not denied they offered the money. The bone of contention is how will a sane Nigerian classify such a largess (Gift, Tithe or Bribe). 

Let's call a spade by its true name "SPADE". There is no gain saying and no matter how hard GEJ cronies try to come up with flimsy excuses, GEJ stumbled once again and has soiled the position he occupies by attempting to lure SNG to support his presidential bid with a BRIBE of $50,000.

and why are you so sure you are the right one here? All your argument is pointing to the fact that a bribe was given as if you were the Orubebe or even the Tony guy, or at best you are Bakare. You want us to accept your argument but you find it hard to accept the argument of others, why dont you go to court?

Kobojunkie:
You really have nothing reasonable to add, do you? ROFLMAO!!

This i.d.iot  has come again. Lets look at your contributions and try to pick anything reasonable out of them all, nothing. Who the f are you to talk to everyone the way you talk? Scumbag? I bet you are a donkey in the real world just as you are on NairaLand. If i dont have nothing reasonable to add, who chose you as the teacher to mark scripts? No wonder everyone on NL hates you to the highest heavens. Dont go find life outside that silly programming job where you are nothing but redundant. Goat.

run run run from area.

aisha2:
Motives for visiting President Goodluc[/b]k: To present their position on key National Issues

[b]Reasons for leaving with money: First of all, at no time did any of the SNG members, Tunde Bakare, Odumakin and Abagje acdcept the money. They did not collect the Money, Tony Uranata who was given the money folllowed them with ot to the hotel, all you who are screaming about theri reason for not wanting to create a scene have never been to the Villa. There are 3 major gates in the Villa, you have to get clearance to pass through all, drivers are usually stopped at the third or second gate depending on how important the personalities are. It is when you are finished that you will call your driver to drive down and pick you. So i guess They presented the money wile they were waiting for the drivers to drive down, and not wanting to create a scene i understand because there are over 500 security men, Police, SSS, Soldiers etc outside the main presidential villa where the meeting would have held. Imagine Arguing in front of all these Police men and SSS, Pastor Tunde Bakare Standing there arguing with Uranta or Orubebe, it would have indeed created a scene.
I understand the SNG point of view.
We should stop trying to shift the focus. Transport money whatever, i wonder how many civil societies and groups daily recieve transport money when they visit the Villa. When you receieve that kind of money you have lost the moral right to be objective, Thats why they rejected the money, no wonder my collegues struggle to be included in such visits, on TV appearing to fight for the Masses but only going to Villa to recieve transport Money. I commend SNG for bringing this to lime light, other pastors, Civil societies and bodies who daily trop in no more transport money, enough is enough, these are the little things that drain our economy, how many people visit Villa each day and how many $50k transport do we give out everyday? these are questions we should be asking not the motive of people who rejected this ungodly money and brought this issue to light for us to know. We must fight curroption by cleaning up our acts

So, because thery dont want to embarass anyone, they took the money, and left with it, opened the envelope, counted it, and then called Tony, called Orubebe, put him on speaker phone and told him they were returning the money? How daft.

Why did they collect it in the first instance? Ok- so if the argument is true- they were bribed, it means, they actually then took the bribe and lateron thought against it, which makes them the more guilty - isint it? whether they returned it or not being immaterial.

old news

mistermm:
HERE IS A LAWYER'S OPINION ON THE BRIBE - COPIED FROM SR.


Mr Odumakin has further thrown light on what had transpired at the meeting and after the meeting with the president. However, I have the following observations to make.

1. I still lay much of the blames on the Bakare group; this may sound surprising for doing this on someone who wanted to play the social reformer. Mr President said you should not go away for he was coming back and you sensed what was going to happen and you ran away! What was the meaning of that? Such an action looked very funny to an average observer. And how did you sense the president was about to offer you a bribe? And if that was the case and you said you did not want to embarrass the president why did you not wait for him to come back with the bribe? If that had happened you had every right and opportunity to reject such a bribe with all the politeness you could offer and, I bet you, nobody would have taken offense at that. In fact Bakare and his group would have stood tallest before the president! That is how an effective social reformer would have acted! Instead the group ran away; that was very childish.

2. And when the Bakare group got to their cars at past midnight they did not see the drivers of the cars! Are we to believe here that the drivers could have strayed far away from their cars in such a security-prone area as the Aso Rock Villa? So the story goes on to say that before the group could leave the premises Orubebe arrived with the bribe. In my view there are still some grey areas in this part of the story.

3. Mr Orubebe insisted that the group should accept the money and the group had to do this because they did not want to create a scene! I wonder what scene the story was referring to. Was it a scene not to embarrass the president which had already happened in paragraph (1) above or a scene of a scuffle between Orubebe and the group? Was Orubebe there with a gun threatening to shoot the group if it did not accept the money?

4. One thing is clear which Pastor Bakare should indeed take the rap for. The pastor is a pastor, a lawyer and social crusader. Barrister Tunde Bakare knows the implications of accepting money he believes was a bribe and whether he intends to return it later is of no consequence here since the group was not a law-enforcement agent posted to catch a criminal in the act. Pastor Tunde Bakare knows that his spiritual calling compels him never to touch bribe money even with a hundred metre pole; and this is true even if he were under threat of death from the offeror.

5. The overall story now states that the group took the money because it did not want to embarrass the president. In the view of the law, this is no defence whatsoever. The elements of the offence have been consummated and members of this group could be arraigned for that.

6. On the other hand, if the group had intended to nail the president, it had failed because the hard evidence has been lost, that is, the bribe money itself. You cannot move on a case like this with mere circumstantial evidence.

7. As it stands now, it is a case accusations, counter-accusations and denials. It is now the Bakare group's word against the presidency's word. And, naturally, the weight of veracity would tilt in favour of the presidency in view of the absence of any direct or hard evidence. In the case of doubt the benefit rests with the accused.

8. And related to (7) above would mean that the president, at his pleasure, could sue the group for defamation; and in such a case the Bakare group would not have any hard evidence to defend itself in such a suit.

9. Therefore Barrister Tunde Bakare has failed here as a lawyer and has even muddled up his spiritual calling as a pastor and a social reformer. There is a saying that if the sheep would want to grow horns then it must have to develop a strong skull to accommodate these horns. This incident should be an eye-opener to the Bakare group that, if they want to be a social critic and reformer then they must dust up everything and be at their wit's end at all times, especially with respect to the law, otherwise they could place themselves in trouble with the law. Let us pray that the presidency does not go forward to sue the group for, at least, defamation.

10. In conclusion, bribe money could have been offered and there was no doubt that the Bakare group accepted it which consummated the offence. Even though I still have my respect for the Bakare group, I should equally state that this group messed up this incident which could be enough to arraign them for the offence.

This is the best anyone can come up with, others are just talking from their backside as usual.

Can anyone dispute these points one by one? No.

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Desperate for what? and your proof is?

The Bakare I know would have come out to talk on this matter if it was indeed true. We can not rely on a Sahara whatever report to believe this story hook, line and sinker.

If SR realy had aninterview with Bakare- let them publish the full transcript or keep their mouth shut.

Nice idea.

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you pay no dime. You cant put a 47 inside the plane bro. too massive. unless the Pilot can allow you to use his cockpit.

its everywhere, who is asking for source?

1. That question is not necessary- If you have cash, bring it. If you have a Visa Card or so, leave your cash in America and draw your money here with your visa card on the ATM machines around. Cash most preferably, if it is large, make sure you declare to customs in America.

2. You either bring your HDTV with you, or buy them in Nigeria here. They are ten ten kobo here in Nigeria, so, make your choice. How can you ask if you can take your TV with you on the plane? I assume this is your second time of flying in a plane? First time you travelled out and now? We dont know the size of the TV you will buy, so, how can you put it inside the plane? Duuhhhh? You can check it in, no big deal, i have seen plasma, flat screen Tvs etc being offloaded on my numerous trips into Nigeria.

3. You can book your flight anytime you land at the Abuja airport - just go to the local and buy or ask someone to buy ahead for you if they know your itinery.

No biggie at all.

but the Textile industry is dead because of smugglers as well. How many people patronise Nigerian made textiles? Dont people still smuggle in foreign textile in preference to locally made textile?

If SaharaReporters have concrete evidence, why do they have to rely on stories from another website to buttress their point?

Babasoty

They will soon label you as one of the benefactors of government because you dont share in their ill conceived arguments.

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and SaharaReporters have refused to publish the transcripts of their so called interview with Bakare but went to another website to copy the story of the Ogunmakin person to substantiate their report.

If they did interview Bakare- lets see the full Transcript rather than taking a single quote and using it as an argument and copying stories from other websites.

OMO IBO:
I just heard on radio that the  money that was supposedly returned  can no longer be accounted for. . . LOL

This should earn this person a ban. Where are the biased moderators/

Let SaharaReporters publish the full transcript of their purpoted phone interview with Pastor Bakare. Please.

it is amazing how people respond to questions or issues without any proper position of theirs, where are the intelligent people?

Phate07:
The United States Embassy has data indicating the number of Nigerians who come to join their spouses in the US every year. In this instance, no attempt was made to collect such data.

However, several trends were deduced from several exchanges that took place with friends and friends-of-friends and acquaintances in several
enclaves in the US. Some of the patterns that emerged include the fact that no fewer than 310 folks embark on this voyage of
which eighty per cent are
women. Of this, about two-thirds are Christians with post- secondary education; and two-thirds are between the ages of 25 and 37. Of the base number, eighty-five per cent are from the southern region, with eighty-seven per cent appearing to come from financially-disadvantaged homes.

What is true of the US also seems to be true of Canada, the United Kingdom and various European Union nations. What ’s more, the percentages of Nigerians who go overseas to join their spouses, fiances and fiancees have increased twenty-five percent in the last two decades. It is instructive to note that the immigration process can be trying and costly. Frankly, it is a process that demands a lot of resourcefulness, wits and perseverance. It is a process that, more often than not, results in rejection and depression.

Even so, many and many more are willing to undertake this mentally and physically-draining exercise.

But why do Nigerians go though this tortuous immigration process? Why do Nigerian women, living in Nigeria, agree to marrying men they, in most cases, hardly know? And why do Nigerian men go home to marry instead of marrying the women they ’ve romanced here in the US.

[size=14pt]After all, most of the women
who are already in the US are well-educated, well-read and well-travelled; they are well mannered and have, in most cases, proved their trustworthiness. These are
women of two worlds: they
know Africa and also understand the Western society. But in spite of their advantages and pluses, the vast majority of these women are likely to lose their boyfriends to women back home.[/size]

www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201011300161393

The men surely wants better than that and only home grown women without all those stains will provide those details in marriage that surpasses education, exposure, trust, well manners or sophistication.

The cars end up in the country anyway, through the back door, smuggling and co. This will surely reduce/curb smuggling of those older cars to Nigeria through the back door.

9ijaMan:
The simple reason is because GEJ is not smart. It's the same reason he rushed to falsely accuse IBB for the Oct. 1 bomb blast in Abuja, the same reason he's turning a blind eye to the anarchy in Ogun and Bauchi states where they currently have 2 speakers and 2 deputy governors respectively. It's the same reason he announced 9ja would no longer participate in FIFA organized competitions (before he rescinded), the very same reason he's supporting Uduaghan to return back as Governor of Delta state, the old same reason his government can approve the purchase of plastic bins from UK for almost 1billion Naira, and the same reason he's more of a FaceBook president who's preoccupation is his desperation to win the 2011 elections. I can go on and on. GEJ is desperate and will go to any length to return back to Aso rock in 2011.

You make too many irrelevant comparisons.