debosky:

@ Beaf, kindly answer my question. . . .or are you unable to take a stand?

Beaf:

^
Oga, how is the AK? You don polish am for 2011? You know its business time for your type na!

Funny guy, so being a GEJ supporter means I hold meetings with govt officials? I don't know Niboro or Orubebe, ok?

@topic
I wonder why you folk are so exercised, while in the meantime we have heard nothing from Tunde Bakare? Spooky!!!

Nsiman:

If u read this story over and over with understanding there are controversial statements and more. 1. We took the money to our hotel room. 2. We rejected the money at once. WHO CAN RECONCILE THAT?

Debosky!!!!
I de laugh oooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Damn! Unu go take laf kpai pesin for NL!

What can one expect from paid up GEJ haters?

[size=14pt]We Were Not Offered Bribe - - - Rev.tunde Bakare [/size]
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Rev. Tunde Bakare, senior pastor of Latter Rain Assembly, and convener of Save Nigeria Group (SNG), has denied claim by Sahara reporters that fifty thousand dollars was offered to members of the group as bribe in exchange for their support, during a recent visit with President Goodluck Jonathan. In a telephone conversation with huhuonline.com, Rev Bakare said, “we visited the president, we made our position known to him, and were offered transport money, but we rejected it,based on integrity. “It was not a bribe”, he affirmed

When asked about the alleged Fifty thousand dollars he allegedly returned to the Presidency, Mr.Tony Uranta told huhuonline.com that he did not see any money before, during or after the meeting, and that at no time was money exchanged.

Mr. Uranta lambasted the alleged bribery saga, calling it a distortion of facts.

Our checks reveal that besides Pastor Bakare, other members of SNG present at the meeting were Mr.Odumakin, Mr. Agbaje, and Mr.Adeshoye.President Jonathan`s team included Elder Peter Godsday Orubebe and Tony Uranta.


The alleged bribe giver, Elder Peter Godsday Orubebe, in press statement made available to huhuonline.com said, he had no reason to bribe Save Nigeria Group.  Elder Orubebe, who is the incumbent minister of Niger Delta Ministry, opined that “he find these allegations deeply distressing, and he is certain that the
highly respected Pastor Tunde Bakare must have been quoted out of context”


Hear him: 


“ I have read, with a deep sense of shock and disappointment, allegations made against me in an on-line medium, claiming that I attempted to bribe the leadership of the Save Nigeria Group, SNG,
after a visit with the president”.



“I find these allegations deeply distressing, and I am certain that the highly respected Pastor Tunde Bakare must have been quoted out of context. I am forced to react to these allegations only because I would consider it an insult for anyone to attempt to bribe someone of that stature, visiting with his group, and with, of all sums, 50,000
dollars”.



“True, a bribe is a bribe, no matter the sum. This is the reason why I am all the more concerned and worried about these claims. What I however find intriguing is that there is absolutely no reason to bribe the Save Nigeria Group. When the body on its own volition rose to challenge the sense of drift that had befallen the country over the illness of our late leader, Mallam Umaru Musa Yar’adua, did anyone bribe them”?



“So it is hard to believe that any right thinking person would attempt to do so now.  If a bribe is intended to induce someone to either do something, or to refrain from doing it, what in objective terms would I need to bribe the SNG for at this time”?



“This is a false story that should be dismissed by all right thinking persons”.


http://www.huhuonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2337%3Awe-were-not-offered-bribe-tunde-bakare&catid=103%3Amore-news

mistermm:

HERE IS A LAWYER'S OPINION ON THE BRIBE - COPIED FROM SR.


Mr Odumakin has further thrown light on what had transpired at the meeting and after the meeting with the president. However, I have the following observations to make.

1. I still lay much of the blames on the Bakare group; this may sound surprising for doing this on someone who wanted to play the social reformer. Mr President said you should not go away for he was coming back and you sensed what was going to happen and you ran away! What was the meaning of that? Such an action looked very funny to an average observer. And how did you sense the president was about to offer you a bribe? And if that was the case and you said you did not want to embarrass the president why did you not wait for him to come back with the bribe? If that had happened you had every right and opportunity to reject such a bribe with all the politeness you could offer and, I bet you, nobody would have taken offense at that. In fact Bakare and his group would have stood tallest before the president! That is how an effective social reformer would have acted! Instead the group ran away; that was very childish.

2. And when the Bakare group got to their cars at past midnight they did not see the drivers of the cars! Are we to believe here that the drivers could have strayed far away from their cars in such a security-prone area as the Aso Rock Villa? So the story goes on to say that before the group could leave the premises Orubebe arrived with the bribe. In my view there are still some grey areas in this part of the story.

3. Mr Orubebe insisted that the group should accept the money and the group had to do this because they did not want to create a scene! I wonder what scene the story was referring to. Was it a scene not to embarrass the president which had already happened in paragraph (1) above or a scene of a scuffle between Orubebe and the group? Was Orubebe there with a gun threatening to shoot the group if it did not accept the money?

4. One thing is clear which Pastor Bakare should indeed take the rap for. The pastor is a pastor, a lawyer and social crusader. Barrister Tunde Bakare knows the implications of accepting money he believes was a bribe and whether he intends to return it later is of no consequence here since the group was not a law-enforcement agent posted to catch a criminal in the act. Pastor Tunde Bakare knows that his spiritual calling compels him never to touch bribe money even with a hundred metre pole; and this is true even if he were under threat of death from the offeror.

5. The overall story now states that the group took the money because it did not want to embarrass the president. In the view of the law, this is no defence whatsoever. The elements of the offence have been consummated and members of this group could be arraigned for that.

6. On the other hand, if the group had intended to nail the president, it had failed because the hard evidence has been lost, that is, the bribe money itself. You cannot move on a case like this with mere circumstantial evidence.

7. As it stands now, it is a case accusations, counter-accusations and denials. It is now the Bakare group's word against the presidency's word. And, naturally, the weight of veracity would tilt in favour of the presidency in view of the absence of any direct or hard evidence. In the case of doubt the benefit rests with the accused.

8. And related to (7) above would mean that the president, at his pleasure, could sue the group for defamation; and in such a case the Bakare group would not have any hard evidence to defend itself in such a suit.

9. Therefore Barrister Tunde Bakare has failed here as a lawyer and has even muddled up his spiritual calling as a pastor and a social reformer. There is a saying that if the sheep would want to grow horns then it must have to develop a strong skull to accommodate these horns. This incident should be an eye-opener to the Bakare group that, if they want to be a social critic and reformer then they must dust up everything and be at their wit's end at all times, especially with respect to the law, otherwise they could place themselves in trouble with the law. Let us pray that the presidency does not go forward to sue the group for, at least, defamation.

10. In conclusion, bribe money could have been offered and there was no doubt that the Bakare group accepted it which consummated the offence. Even though I still have my respect for the Bakare group, I should equally state that this group messed up this incident which could be enough to arraign them for the offence.

monkeyleg:

@Beaf,

whats has pricing pepper in the market got to do with this matter.

Anyway, we are in Warri in about 2 weeks time to shake body for Great. Make you try come, I go buy you big stout and chicken, then we can discuss this your Oga wey holy pass Pope

monkeyleg:

@Beaf,

When we fight finsih for here, Warri boy na Warri boy. No boxing gloves just Odeku and fowl.

Beaf:

Abi o!
Its been very long since I spent good quality time in that town.

kawkab:

Why did the SNG have to visit GEJ. Since Tunde Bakare is anti-government what was he looking for by visiting Jonathan. Even if they were offered bribe of $50k and they rejected it, why make it such a big fuss. Bakare sound like a man working to achieve certain aims for the opposition. Mind you I am not a Jonathan supporters, just that I am disgusted with the way the issue is being promoted.

Sahara reporter is saying SNG was offered bribe, at the same time huhuonline is saying Tunde Bakare denied that they were offered any bribe.

Nsiman:

SNG denies $50000 bribery allegation. Huhuonline.com has it too. Check out: www.nigerdeltastandard.com/sng-denies-$50000-bribery-allegation

Rev. Tunde Bakare, senior pastor of Latter Rain Assembly, and convener of Save Nigeria Group (SNG), has denied claim by Sahara reporters that fifty thousand dollars was offered to members of the group as bribe in exchange for their support, during a recent visit with President Goodluck Jonathan. In a telephone conversation with huhuonline.com, Rev Bakare said, “we visited the president, we made our position known to him, and were offered transport money, but we rejected it,based on integrity. “It was not a bribe”, he affirmed

Rev. Tunde Bakare, senior pastor of Latter Rain Assembly, and convener of Save Nigeria Group (SNG), has denied claim by Sahara reporters that fifty thousand dollars was offered to members of the group as bribe in exchange for their support, during a recent visit with President Goodluck Jonathan. In a telephone conversation with huhuonline.com, Rev Bakare said, “we visited the president, we made our position known to him, and were offered transport money, but we rejected it,based on integrity. “It was not a bribe”, he affirmed

aisha2:

Motives for visiting President Goodluc[/b]k: To present their position on key National Issues

[b]Reasons for leaving with money: First of all, at no time did any of the SNG members, Tunde Bakare, Odumakin and Abagje acdcept the money. They did not collect the Money, Tony Uranata who was given the money folllowed them with ot to the hotel, all you who are screaming about theri reason for not wanting to create a scene have never been to the Villa. There are 3 major gates in the Villa, you have to get clearance to pass through all, drivers are usually stopped at the third or second gate depending on how important the personalities are. It is when you are finished that you will call your driver to drive down and pick you. So i guess They presented the money wile they were waiting for the drivers to drive down, and not wanting to create a scene i understand because there are over 500 security men, Police, SSS, Soldiers etc outside the main presidential villa where the meeting would have held. Imagine Arguing in front of all these Police men and SSS, Pastor Tunde Bakare Standing there arguing with Uranta or Orubebe, it would have indeed created a scene.
I understand the SNG point of view.
We should stop trying to shift the focus. Transport money whatever, i wonder how many civil societies and groups daily recieve transport money when they visit the Villa. When you receieve that kind of money you have lost the moral right to be objective, Thats why they rejected the money, no wonder my collegues struggle to be included in such visits, on TV appearing to fight for the Masses but only going to Villa to recieve transport Money. I commend SNG for bringing this to lime light, other pastors, Civil societies and bodies who daily trop in no more transport money, enough is enough, these are the little things that drain our economy, how many people visit Villa each day and how many $50k transport do we give out everyday? these are questions we should be asking not the motive of people who rejected this ungodly money and brought this issue to light for us to know. We must fight curroption by cleaning up our acts

aisha2:

Motives for visiting President Goodluc[/b]k: To present their position on key National Issues

[b]Reasons for leaving with money: First of all, at no time did any of the SNG members, Tunde Bakare, Odumakin and Abagje acdcept the money. They did not collect the Money, Tony Uranata who was given the money folllowed them with ot to the hotel, all you who are screaming about theri reason for not wanting to create a scene have never been to the Villa. There are 3 major gates in the Villa, you have to get clearance to pass through all, drivers are usually stopped at the third or second gate depending on how important the personalities are. It is when you are finished that you will call your driver to drive down and pick you. So i guess They presented the money wile they were waiting for the drivers to drive down, and not wanting to create a scene i understand because there are over 500 security men, Police, SSS, Soldiers etc outside the main presidential villa where the meeting would have held. Imagine Arguing in front of all these Police men and SSS, Pastor Tunde Bakare Standing there arguing with Uranta or Orubebe, it would have indeed created a scene.
I understand the SNG point of view.
We should stop trying to shift the focus. Transport money whatever, i wonder how many civil societies and groups daily recieve transport money when they visit the Villa. When you receieve that kind of money you have lost the moral right to be objective, Thats why they rejected the money, no wonder my collegues struggle to be included in such visits, on TV appearing to fight for the Masses but only going to Villa to recieve transport Money. I commend SNG for bringing this to lime light, other pastors, Civil societies and bodies who daily trop in no more transport money, enough is enough, these are the little things that drain our economy, how many people visit Villa each day and how many $50k transport do we give out everyday? these are questions we should be asking not the motive of people who rejected this ungodly money and brought this issue to light for us to know. We must fight curroption by cleaning up our acts

igochopur$:

So, because thery dont want to embarass anyone, they took the money, and left with it, opened the envelope, counted it, and then called Tony, called Orubebe, put him on speaker phone and told him they were returning the money? How daft.

Why did they collect it in the first instance? [/b]Ok- [b]so if the argument is true- they were bribed, it means, they actually then took the bribe and lateron thought against it, which makes them the more guilty - isint it? whether they returned it or not being immaterial.

OMO IBO:

ROTFLMAO
Oh, the SNG is now denying the $50000 bribe/gift??
I thought I heard and also wrote earlier that the money cannot be accounted for.

No be naija be this??